IRC log for #koha, 2010-10-22

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00:02 darling more tourist info -- http://www.stuff.co.nz/nationa[…]-by-getting-dirty
00:05 hudsonbot Starting build 77 for job Koha (previous build: SUCCESS)
00:05 munin New commit(s) kohagit: remove a couple duplicate lines <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]56327e10d9cd8e1bd> / (bug 3536) fix homeorholdingbranch on return <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]a2184bd290f72997a>
00:10 robin $ ls -lrth /var/cache/pbuilder/result/*3.2.0*deb
00:10 robin -rw-r--r-- 1 robin robin 28M Oct 22 13:13 /var/cache/pbuilder/result/​koha-common_3.2.0-1_all.deb
00:10 robin -rw-r--r-- 1 robin robin 21K Oct 22 13:13 /var/cache/pbuilder/result/koha_3.2.0-1_all.deb
00:10 robin yay, it works :)
00:15 hudsonbot Project Koha build (77): SUCCESS in 10 min: http://bugs.koha-community.org:8080/job/Koha/77/
00:15 hudsonbot * Henri-Damien LAURENT: (bug 3536) fix homeorholdingbranch on return
00:15 hudsonbot * Galen Charlton: remove a couple duplicate lines
00:15 masonj robin++ !!
00:25 munin New commit(s) kohagit: remove two disused functions <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]95ca31da99a2d3864>
00:34 hudsonbot Starting build 78 for job Koha (previous build: SUCCESS)
00:42 hudsonbot Project Koha build (78): SUCCESS in 7 min 43 sec: http://bugs.koha-community.org:8080/job/Koha/78/
00:42 hudsonbot Galen Charlton: remove two disused functions
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01:08 jcamins gmcharlt++ # for removing some of the functions that were confusing me
01:17 munin New commit(s) kohagit: bug 3756: remove more references to disused sysprefs <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]d8e23576b11a09fef> / remove last vestiges of NOTMARC mode <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]41bb1ebf3da0c641c> / bug 3756: start removing references to disused sysprefs <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]it;a=commitdiff;h
01:19 hudsonbot Starting build 79 for job Koha (previous build: SUCCESS)
01:20 brendan_2 @later tell Nate chat me up when you get back I'm around
01:20 munin brendan_2: The operation succeeded.
01:27 hudsonbot Project Koha build (79): SUCCESS in 7 min 49 sec: http://bugs.koha-community.org:8080/job/Koha/79/
01:27 hudsonbot * Galen Charlton: bug 3756: start removing references to disused sysprefs
01:27 hudsonbot * Galen Charlton: remove last vestiges of NOTMARC mode
01:27 hudsonbot * Galen Charlton: bug 3756: remove more references to disused sysprefs
01:27 munin Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3756 blocker, PATCH-Sent, ---, cnighswonger, ASSIGNED, new sys prefs - no way to add a new local use preference
01:34 hudsonbot Starting build 80 for job Koha (previous build: SUCCESS)
01:39 munin New commit(s) kohagit: Update changelog and build script in preperation for 3.2.0 release <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]8a8f01aab98febd9e> / bug 4176: remove references to unimplemented system preference MIME <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]d23d3db1e4e21ea0f>
01:42 hudsonbot Project Koha build (80): SUCCESS in 7 min 48 sec: http://bugs.koha-community.org:8080/job/Koha/80/
01:42 hudsonbot * Galen Charlton: bug 4176: remove references to unimplemented system preference MIME
01:42 hudsonbot * Robin Sheat: Update changelog and build script in preperation for 3.2.0 release
01:42 munin Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4176 normal, P5, ---, gmcharlt, ASSIGNED, MIME missing from sys prefs interface
01:49 hudsonbot Starting build 81 for job Koha (previous build: SUCCESS)
01:49 munin New commit(s) kohagit: bug 3756: remove disused system preference from database <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]218a9e6a5546dd7c8>
01:57 hudsonbot Project Koha build (81): SUCCESS in 7 min 48 sec: http://bugs.koha-community.org:8080/job/Koha/81/
01:57 hudsonbot Galen Charlton: bug 3756: remove disused system preference from database
01:57 munin Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3756 blocker, PATCH-Sent, ---, cnighswonger, ASSIGNED, new sys prefs - no way to add a new local use preference
02:01 munin New commit(s) kohagit: fixing various links to point to *.koha-community.org <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]8c7bc7a417bd4d42d>
02:04 hudsonbot Starting build 82 for job Koha (previous build: SUCCESS)
02:11 munin New commit(s) kohagit: bug 3881: remove unused OpacPrivacy syspref <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]c35a88d5ae3946a08>
02:13 hudsonbot Project Koha build (82): SUCCESS in 8 min 4 sec: http://bugs.koha-community.org:8080/job/Koha/82/
02:13 hudsonbot Galen Charlton: fixing various links to point to *.koha-community.org
02:19 hudsonbot Starting build 83 for job Koha (previous build: SUCCESS)
02:21 munin New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 4972 Fix table creations failing due to foreign key checks <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]5eae7ef5d7581671a>
02:27 hudsonbot Project Koha build (83): SUCCESS in 7 min 53 sec: http://bugs.koha-community.org:8080/job/Koha/83/
02:27 hudsonbot * Galen Charlton: bug 3881: remove unused OpacPrivacy syspref
02:27 hudsonbot * Colin Campbell: Bug 4972 Fix table creations failing due to foreign key checks
02:27 munin Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3881 blocker, P5, ---, paul.poulain, RESOLVED FIXED, No Page for Opac Privacy
02:27 munin Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4972 blocker, PATCH-Sent, ---, henridamien, RESOLVED FIXED, updatedatebase fails to create aqbasketgroups and aqcontract
02:34 hudsonbot Starting build 84 for job Koha (previous build: SUCCESS)
02:42 hudsonbot Project Koha build (84): SUCCESS in 7 min 43 sec: http://bugs.koha-community.org:8080/job/Koha/84/
02:42 hudsonbot * Zeno Tajoli: Bug 5128 [3.2] Unimarc default for holdings. Written with French default
02:42 hudsonbot * Galen Charlton: bug 5128: leave record.abs to French defaults
02:42 munin New commit(s) kohagit: bug 5128: leave record.abs to French defaults <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]981c451cd22d2c437> / Bug 5128 [3.2] Unimarc default for holdings. Written with French default <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]587dd15b6695e2fa5>
02:42 munin Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5128 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, Define default 9xx fields for Unimarc setup in all languages
02:48 slef chatty bots
02:53 munin New commit(s) kohagit: bug 3597: DelItemCheck now refuses to delete items in transit for holds <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]e85dfeca072920c1a> / bug 3597: "delete all items" no longer deletes checked out or waiting items <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]2d5acfafabe9ba4c4>
03:04 hudsonbot Starting build 85 for job Koha (previous build: SUCCESS)
03:12 hudsonbot Project Koha build (85): SUCCESS in 7 min 46 sec: http://bugs.koha-community.org:8080/job/Koha/85/
03:12 hudsonbot * Galen Charlton: bug 3597: "delete all items" no longer deletes  checked out or waiting items
03:12 hudsonbot * Galen Charlton: bug 3597: DelItemCheck now refuses to delete items in transit for holds
03:12 munin Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3597 normal, P1, ---, gmcharlt, ASSIGNED, "Delete all items" doesn't check issues
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03:19 masonj very chatty bots!!
03:19 Amit heya masonj
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04:13 munin New commit(s) kohagit: standardize name of ILS-DI:AuthorizedIPs syspref <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]fcce342feb7e76404> / updated to installation instructions <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]5c0d741be1c909bb6>
04:19 hudsonbot Starting build 86 for job Koha (previous build: SUCCESS)
04:27 hudsonbot Project Koha build (86): SUCCESS in 7 min 53 sec: http://bugs.koha-community.org:8080/job/Koha/86/
04:27 hudsonbot * Galen Charlton: updated to installation instructions
04:27 hudsonbot * Galen Charlton: standardize name of ILS-DI:AuthorizedIPs syspref
04:33 chris So that's almost everyone landed in nz now
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05:54 munin New commit(s) kohagit: DB revision 3.02.00.004 - general release of Koha 3.2.0 <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]d9bf70948fbd56bc2> / Release notes for Koha 3.2.0 <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]a62ac5ccd80e1e788>
06:04 munin New commit(s) kohagit: update AUTHOR in Makefile.PL <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]29b0a40b171f7596c>
06:04 hudsonbot Starting build 87 for job Koha (previous build: SUCCESS)
06:13 hudsonbot Project Koha build (87): SUCCESS in 8 min 57 sec: http://bugs.koha-community.org:8080/job/Koha/87/
06:13 hudsonbot * Galen Charlton: Release notes for Koha 3.2.0
06:13 hudsonbot * Galen Charlton: DB revision 3.02.00.004 - general release of Koha 3.2.0
06:13 hudsonbot * Galen Charlton: update AUTHOR in Makefile.PL
06:48 gmcharlt http://koha-community.org/koha-3-2-0/
06:48 Topic for #koha is now Koha 3.2.0 released
06:49 chris woo hoo
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06:57 gmcharlt it is weird having everybody in New Zealand
06:57 gmcharlt my sense of time is all off
06:58 chris hehe
06:59 chris they are all off having dinner in various places
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07:03 gmcharlt methinks it's time to split up updatedatabase.pl
07:03 chris yeah, reckon so
07:06 gmcharlt now I'm just waiting for the translations to finish building so that I can put out the all-translastions tarball
07:07 chris yeah they take a while
07:07 gmcharlt you're too good at finding translators ;)
07:09 chris heh
07:11 chris ill have to set up the stats to run on the 3.2.x branch too now
07:12 gmcharlt to say nothing of hudson
07:12 chris *nod*
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07:15 chris heya rach
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07:20 CGI141 How do I add MARC databases?  I am working in Armenia and need to use data from the Union Catalog (in Armenian)
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07:21 chris CGI141: do you mean adding another Z3950 server to search?
07:21 CGI141 Yes.
07:21 chris 2 secs ill just find you a good page
07:22 chris wizzyrea_: see the topic !
07:22 wizzyrea_ OMG WOOT!
07:22 wizzyrea_ !!!!
07:22 chris CGI141: http://koha-community.org/docu[…]?ch=x4334#AEN4359
07:23 wizzyrea_ gmcharlt, when you wake up, BEEEG HUGS
07:23 gmcharlt wizzyrea_: you assume I've gone to bed ;)
07:23 wizzyrea_ AHA
07:23 * wizzyrea_ hugs gmcharlt
07:23 wizzyrea_ Congratulations!!!
07:23 gmcharlt thanks!
07:25 wizzyrea_ what's the translation?
07:25 wizzyrea_ of the text at the bottom of the notes
07:25 chris with my basket, and your basket, the people will prosper
07:25 chris its a proverb
07:25 wizzyrea_ i likes
07:26 wizzyrea_ that's really great :) Good job folks
07:27 chris how was dinner wizzyrea_ ?
07:27 chris did you scoop up nate and sekjal too?
07:28 wizzyrea_ we couldn't find them :( the number of the room the desk gave us wasn't right
07:28 wizzyrea_ and nicole ddn't know how to get them
07:28 wizzyrea_ but dinner itself was lovely
07:28 * wizzyrea_ went to a place called plum
07:28 wizzyrea_ had gnocchi
07:28 chris ah plum is good
07:30 chris what did spud have?
07:30 wizzyrea_ he ate some of my gnocchi, and some of thatcher's fish
07:30 wizzyrea_ and garlic bread
07:30 chris nice
07:30 wizzyrea_ yea, it wasn't the most kid centered meal ever
07:30 wizzyrea_ >.>
07:31 wizzyrea_ but he did alright
07:31 gmcharlt :)
07:31 chris :)
07:31 gmcharlt so is spud ready to join the hackfest?
07:31 wizzyrea_ he's pretty wicked good at iphone apps >.>
07:31 chris cuba street would have been starting to ramp up by the time you were heading back
07:31 wizzyrea_ yea, it was
07:31 chris it gets busy on friday nights
07:32 chris kahu has the flu :(
07:32 * wizzyrea_ looked pretty great
07:32 wizzyrea_ er
07:32 wizzyrea_ no
07:32 wizzyrea_ :( oh no
07:32 wizzyrea_ poor fella
07:33 chris yeah, its just a mild one, curse of kindergartens
07:33 chris we'll see how he is tomorrow
07:33 wizzyrea_ :( tummy bug or stuffies
07:33 wizzyrea_ ?
07:33 chris stuffies and low fever
07:34 wizzyrea_ ug, those are the worst.
07:34 wizzyrea_ kk ttyl Congrats again :D
07:34 chris yeap
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08:01 chris heh, its quiet in here since most of the europeans i chat too are now here
08:13 francharb HEY GUYS, AT BIBLIBRE, WE ARE FOLLOWING THE INTERNATIONAL CAPS LOCK DAY TODAY, HOPE YOU WILL JOIN US ;)
08:13 wizzyrea_ lol
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08:13 chris heh
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08:14 FRANCHARB IT'S GONNA BE FUN FOR THE CODING! ;)
08:15 FRANCHARB @WIZZYREA++
08:15 munin FRANCHARB: Error: "WIZZYREA++" is not a valid command.
08:15 FRANCHARB ;)
08:15 FRANCHARB WHAT?
08:15 FRANCHARB WIZZYREA++
08:15 FRANCHARB munin, WIZZYREA++
08:15 munin FRANCHARB: Error: "WIZZYREA++" is not a valid command.
08:15 FRANCHARB AHAH
08:17 FRANCHARB WELL
08:17 FRANCHARB LETS GO BACK TO WORK
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08:19 chris WIZZYREA: tv3
08:20 chris 7days is a good comedy show
08:20 WIZZYREA lol what's on?
08:20 WIZZYREA aha
08:25 chris this is my fave bit
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08:27 chris hi hdl
08:29 hdl hi chris
08:29 * hdl in auckland
08:30 chris hows it going?
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08:30 ALEX_A HEHE
08:30 chris you head to rotorua tomorrow ?
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09:01 magnus gmcharlt++ # for getting 3.2 out the door! yay!
09:06 chris magnus: what time do you guys hit the road?
09:06 chris and did cait arrive ok?
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09:08 magnus chris: yep, everyone arrived in the end, including cait! and we all had a lovely spanish dinner down by the harbour tonight. we leave the hotel at 08.45...
09:08 chris cool :)
09:09 magnus yeah, really looking forward to the trip and wellington and the conference and everything!
09:10 chris yep, it should be good fun, nengard, sekjal, nate and nengards husband all arrived in wellington today
09:11 Amit heya magnus,. chris
09:11 chris hiya Amit
09:11 magnus hi Amit
09:12 chris right, gonna be a busy few days, and im wiped out already, time to get some sleep
09:12 chris enjoy the road trip
09:12 * chris goes to bed
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09:15 magnus thanks, chris - sleep tight!
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09:40 slef 0845?
09:41 slef thought it was 0745 :-/
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10:17 slef @later tell magnus 0745 or 0845?
10:17 munin slef: The operation succeeded.
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10:51 zipporah how do I indicate the number of copies on the koha biblio records say for each book to be able to put an hold in the circulation?
10:55 zipporah When I try to place an hold on a book, I get the message "no copies available". How do i introduce number of copies for each book?
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11:31 Amit heya jwagner
11:32 jwagner Hi Amit
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11:35 zipporah how do I indicate the number of copies on the koha biblio records say for each book to be able to put an hold in the circulation? When I try to place an hold on a book, I get the message "no copies available". How do i introduce number of copies for each book?
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12:09 zipporah how do I indicate the number of copies on the koha biblio records say for each book to be able to put an hold in the circulation?  When I try to place an hold on a book, I get the message "no copies available". How do i introduce number of copies for each book?
12:11 munin New commit(s) kohagit: bug 5128: fix syntax errors in previous patch <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]7c08b0a08b054f308>
12:15 zipporah I am asking for help as to how to indicate number of copies of a book in the Koha 3.0.6.
12:19 hudsonbot Starting build 88 for job Koha (previous build: SUCCESS)
12:22 tcohen gmcharlt: congrats
12:22 jwagner zipporah, there probably aren't a lot of people online at the moment.
12:23 gmcharlt tcohen: thanks
12:23 gmcharlt jwagner: how was the flight over?
12:24 jwagner Haven't left yet!  This afternoon....
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12:26 zipporah jwagner, would you have an answer to my question?
12:27 jwagner I'd say to check if your system preferences allow holds, and do you have a number set in the maxreserves syspref? (I think that's the name of it)
12:27 jwagner Otherwise, not offhand
12:28 zipporah Let me lookup that, thanks for now.
12:28 Mizstik Hello. :-)
12:29 Mizstik Is there an ETA for all-translations release of 3.2 yet?
12:29 hudsonbot Project Koha build (88): SUCCESS in 9 min 39 sec: http://bugs.koha-community.org:8080/job/Koha/88/
12:29 hudsonbot Galen Charlton: bug 5128: fix syntax errors in previous patch
12:29 munin Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5128 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, Define default 9xx fields for Unimarc setup in all languages
12:32 gmcharlt Mizstik: about 20 minutes or so
12:32 Mizstik oh :-o
12:32 gmcharlt building them now
12:32 Mizstik Thanks for answering. :-)
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12:38 kmkale hi all
12:40 gmcharlt howdy
12:43 schuster Congrats gmcharlt great work in difficult times.
12:49 brendan morning
12:49 owen Hi brendan, you're up early
12:49 brendan :)
12:50 brendan been going to sleep early
12:50 owen good practice for fatherhood
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12:53 schuster He's trying to virtually get on the right timezone as NZ so brendan can FEEL like he's at the conference with everyone else.
12:53 brendan I should sleep an extra 4 hours then
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13:09 schuster I'm lucky I got my dad's gene of not haveing to sleep much.  I usually do pretty well on 6 hours if I get a full 8 my body starts to revolt!
13:19 brendan I go in phases - but usually 8 hours is what I shoot for
13:19 brendan got 9 last night
13:23 cyrixbmx Why in Koha when I have a double quote in my sentence I can not translate de sentence in my file .po?  Exemple : in the file fr-CA-pref.po I have the following string : msgid "enhanced-content.pref#AmazonEnabled# data from Amazon on the staff interface (including reviews and \"Search Inside\" links on item detail pages). This requires that you have signed up for and entered an access key."
13:23 cyrixbmx But since there is double quote in the string, koha can not translate the sentend with : msgstr "les donn�es d'Amazon sur l'interface professionnelle (y compris les critiques et les liens \"Recherche interne\" sur les pages de d�tails de l'ouvrage). Ceci n�cessite une demande de cl� d'acc�s et la saisie de cette m�me cl�."
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13:24 kmkale bye all
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13:41 jcamins gmcharlt++ # woohoo! Bring out the champagne!
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13:51 schuster at least the good beer!
13:58 jcamins schuster: the problem is that we're in the States, and the good beer -- as I understand it -- is in NZ.
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13:59 brendan time to make your own ;)
13:59 jcamins brendan: nah, I'll leave that to my friend who has his own backyard microbrewery.
14:00 brendan got one here too ;)
14:01 jcamins brendan: does ByWater administer the Koha RSS planet thing?
14:02 brendan I think nengard is not totally sure
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14:02 jcamins Seven hours ago it reposted a ton of posts.
14:03 jcamins Not exactly crisis-level, but I wasn't sure if that was something you were managing.
14:03 owen What are you referring to jcamins ?
14:03 drulm Hello
14:04 jcamins The Koha Related Posts feed...
14:04 jcamins http://owu.towers.org.uk/planets/koha/index.rss
14:05 jcamins Looks like slef's website.
14:05 owen Yes
14:05 jcamins And, good morning, owen
14:06 jcamins Happy 3.2 Release Day!
14:06 drulm Yeah, alright on 3.2, I just saw it.
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14:12 reva hi good morning. The 020 (ISN) $z does not show; neither in staff client Normal view nor in OPAC Normal view. Is this a bug or do I have to turn something on? Thanks for any help.
14:20 owen By default Koha does not display thta data reva. In order to make Koha do so you would probably have to modify the XSL display
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14:21 reva Thanks owen; so, what would I do? add code to some file? (I can do that provided I have precise instruction.)
14:22 owen reva: You would have to modify, for instance, /intranet-tmpl/prog/en/xslt/M​ARC21slim2intranetDetail.xsl
14:23 owen But you'd have to learn about XSL first.
14:23 owen It's not a simple process.
14:23 jcamins reva: you'll have to modify the stylesheet. In order to do that you'll need to learn XSLT. I recommend Michael Fitzgerald's _Learning XSLT_ (O'Reilly, 2003), Doug Tidwell's _XSLT: Mastering XML Transformations_ (O'Reilly, 2008), and Mangano's _XSLT Cookbook_ (O'Reilly, 2005).
14:24 jcamins See also http://www.w3schools.com/xsl/xsl_intro.asp although that won't be enough information.
14:26 reva owen, is this fix integrated in the 3.2? I am trying a virtualbox install of 3.2. If that works, and this code is already incorporated into 3.2, then I will not worry with it. Thanks for the book reference jcamins.
14:26 owen No, 3.2 doesn't display 020z
14:27 owen According to the framework 020z is "Cancelled/invalid ISBN." I don't suppose most people think this is very important to display.
14:28 reva owen, I realize that as I come from the library cataloging end (not the library technology end, as you can tell). So I have the habit of being persnickety.
14:29 owen In that case you will be well served to study XSLT and craft your display to your liking
14:31 reva owen, also could I ask about something you might know the answer to? Does Evergreen (which is big in a lot of state public library consortia in the US) have easy solutions for turning displays on or off?
14:32 owen Sorry, I don't know about Evergreen
14:32 gmcharlt reva: displays of MARC tags?
14:33 gmcharlt if that's what you mean, Evergreen has roughly the same level of complexity or ease of configuration in that respect, depending on how you look at it
14:33 gmcharlt i.e., one would edit a template file on the server
14:33 jcamins gmcharlt: good morning!
14:33 drulm OK, got 3.2, will start testing it w/ our data - fun stuff!
14:33 reva gmcharlt, yes; displays of marc tags.
14:33 gmcharlt jcamins: good morning
14:33 drulm Thanks Galen and everyone else!
14:34 moodaepo gmcharlt++ # Yay on 3.2.0
14:35 reva Thanks gemcharlt. So basically if you require rigour in description display, all of them require some lib tech help I see. Thanks.
14:36 drulm Yeah, it feels like a new day! "It's morning in the library!"  - (modified quote)
14:37 jcamins reva: how much longer do you have at the Standards Bureau?
14:40 drulm That quote indicates no political affilation :)
14:41 jcamins drulm: fear not, I completely failed to recognize it.
14:41 reva jcamins, I am here through the 12th November. (I might add I am off to Varna, Bulgaria on another assignment, doing much less work having to do with library technology:).) Probably not enough time to master anything useful. But I have install the Live CD in the hard drive and we have production quality records in them.
14:42 reva Considering they did not have a catalog of any kind, this is good start.
14:43 jcamins Well, assuming the Bureau is able to maintain it, at least.
14:43 reva I found a lot z39.50 targets, so we do a lot of copy cataloging of our material.
14:44 reva jcamins, that is always a drawback to Peace Corps work. No accountability is expected from host agencies as we do not hand out money.
14:44 gmcharlt reva: how much do they have in the way of technical reports or the like that would require original cataloging?
14:44 drulm jcamins: no doubt. it is a bit obscure.
14:45 gmcharlt is now known as the_gippe
14:45 the_gippe morning!
14:45 the_gippe is now known as gmcharlt
14:45 gmcharlt ah, imagine that with an extra 'r'
14:45 reva gmcharlt, I think you are meaning documentary standard. They have quite a few of those mostly regional standards such as those from Jamaica Bureau of Standards, Trinidad and Tobago Bureau of Standards.
14:46 jcamins gmcharlt: oh no! I recommend hot chicken soup.
14:47 owen :D No, not an R there!
14:47 jcamins Oh!
14:47 jcamins Got it.
14:49 gmcharlt heh - I was afraid I was going to have to explain my joke
14:49 * jcamins is a bit slow today, apparently
14:50 owen gmcharlt: If you had been historically accurate your interruption would have lasted 30 minutes and preempted whatever show I was hoping to see at the time
14:51 drulm Heh
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16:09 brendan @wunder 93117
16:09 munin brendan: The current temperature in Northwest Goleta, Goleta, California is 14.4�C (9:20 AM PDT on October 22, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 85%. Dew Point: 12.0�C. Pressure: 30.04 in 1017.2 hPa (Rising).
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16:12 jwagner @wunder wellington nz
16:12 munin jwagner: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 10.0�C (5:00 AM NZDT on October 23, 2010). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: 8.0�C. Pressure: 30.15 in 1021 hPa (Steady).
16:12 jwagner @wunder 20817
16:12 munin jwagner: The current temperature in Langley Fork Park, McLean, Virginia is 12.9�C (12:24 PM EDT on October 22, 2010). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 47%. Dew Point: 2.0�C. Pressure: 30.16 in 1021.2 hPa (Rising).
16:12 jwagner not too different :-)
16:19 rhcl_away I can't believe all these people vacationing in NZ are chatting on IRC just like they were in their offices. If I was so lucky to be in NZ, I'd be out fishin'.
16:19 jwagner I _am_ in my office :-) leaving this afternoon....
16:19 rhcl_away Oh, well, Ok, you're excused.
16:19 jwagner Thanks :-)
16:20 jcamins rhcl_away: I'm not in NZ. :(
16:20 rhcl_away so why are brendan and munin chatting away?
16:20 brendan I'm in Cali - not going to Kohacon
16:20 rhcl_away is now known as rhcl
16:20 brendan ;)
16:20 rhcl ? for real
16:21 brendan yes my wife and I are expecting a baby girl in December so I'm going to use sometime then :)
16:21 jcamins rhcl: brendan just keeps weird hours. ;)
16:21 brendan heh :)
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17:04 cyrixbmx Why in Koha when I have a double quote in my sentence I can not translate de sentence in my file .po?  Exemple : in the file fr-CA-pref.po I have the following string : msgid "enhanced-content.pref#AmazonEnabled# data from Amazon on the staff interface (including reviews and \"Search Inside\" links on item detail pages). This requires that you have signed up for and entered an access key."
17:04 cyrixbmx But since there is double quote in the string, koha can not translate the sentend with : msgstr "les donn�es d'Amazon sur l'interface professionnelle (y compris les critiques et les liens \"Recherche interne\" sur les pages de d�tails de l'ouvrage). Ceci n�cessite une demande de cl� d'acc�s et la saisie de cette m�me cl�."
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17:14 mib_jd1z2 Hi all -- I need some help with a cataloging issue and hope someone can help
17:14 mib_jd1z2 I recently imported the marc records from our previous catalog
17:14 mib_jd1z2 however, the items were not attached to the records
17:15 mib_jd1z2 i'd like to batch delete all biblios without items
17:15 mib_jd1z2 is there any method to do this?
17:20 jcamins mib_jd1z2: I do not think there is an automatic way, but you could run a report to get a list of MARC records without items.
17:20 jcamins One moment while I find the link to the report I'm thinking of.
17:21 jcamins mib_jd1z2: http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]rds_without_items
17:21 drulm The linking...
17:23 jcamins drulm: does it not work?
17:23 jcamins I've never actually tried the report.
17:30 jcamins You're right. The link to the OPAC is wrong.
17:31 chris morning
17:33 jcamins Does MySQL have a ternary operator?
17:33 jcamins Good morning.
17:34 jcamins Ah, yes, IF.
17:35 mib_jd1z2 ... so can I then setup a procedure to delete records without items, or do I have to manually remove 15000 records?
17:35 mib_jd1z2 is it something i could do in mysql without screwing up the index?
17:35 gmcharlt mib_jd1z2: are you using Zebra?
17:35 mib_jd1z2 yes
17:36 gmcharlt you can delete the relevant rows from bibio and biblioitems, then run rebuild_zebra.pl -b -r
17:36 mib_jd1z2 what is the name of the field that would be null for a record without item(s)?
17:37 gmcharlt select biblionumber from biblio where biblionumber not in (select biblionumber from items);
17:38 mib_jd1z2 is that verbatim?
17:38 gmcharlt yes, mod any typos
17:39 mib_jd1z2 sorry, i'm still a noob with the mysql
17:39 gmcharlt try this first to verify the count
17:39 gmcharlt select count(*)  from biblio where biblionumber not in (select biblionumber from items);
17:41 chris mib_jd1z2: do you use acquisitions?
17:41 mib_jd1z2 count = 14268
17:42 mib_jd1z2 i don't believe i'm using acquisitions
17:42 chris cool then that should be ok
17:43 chris if you were using acquistions there is a possibility that some of those biblio might have orders attached
17:43 chris but if you arent, then no need to worry about that
17:43 mib_jd1z2 definitely not thyen
17:43 mib_jd1z2 still working on setup
17:43 jcamins drulm: is this better? http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]rds_without_items
17:44 jwagner chris, you posted something a while back about the best way to get from the airport to hotels, and of course I didn't keep that post.  Do you have it at hand?
17:45 chris ah that was for dorkland
17:45 chris for wellington, you have 3 choices
17:45 chris taxi, shuttle or the flyer bus
17:46 chris i think for you, a shuttle is what you want
17:46 chris cheap, but no walking involved
17:46 jwagner Just ask at the airport?
17:46 mib_jd1z2 so to delete the records without items, would this be a correct mysql statement? --
17:46 chris yeah there will be some vans, right outside the door
17:46 chris and a ton of taxis too
17:47 mib_jd1z2 delete from biblio where biblionumber not in (select biblionumber from items);
17:47 jcamins drulm: actually, let me change that again.
17:47 jwagner Great, thanks.
17:47 chris jwagner: http://www.taxis.co.nz/Vehicles/Shuttles.html
17:47 chris you could email them, and book one
17:47 jcamins drulm: okay, now it should work for you.
17:47 chris will cost around $15-20 nz
17:48 gmcharlt mib_jd1z2: yes
17:48 mib_jd1z2 great
17:48 mib_jd1z2 and then just run rebuild_zebra.pl -b -r
17:48 gmcharlt yes
17:49 chris a taxi will be $25-40
17:49 jwagner chris, since I'm not likely to have any functioning brain cells by the time I get there, booking in advance seems like a good idea.  Thanks.
17:49 mib_jd1z2 does it matter that zebrasrv is currently trying to index all these records?
17:49 chris jwagner: yup :)
17:50 gmcharlt mib_jd1z2: if a rebuild_zebra is already running, you can kill it
17:50 mib_jd1z2 no, it's still working on my import from yesterday
17:50 mib_jd1z2 unless that's what you mean
17:50 gmcharlt what is working, exactly?
17:50 gmcharlt rebuild_zebra?
17:51 mib_jd1z2 zebrasrv
17:51 mib_jd1z2 the daemon
17:51 jcamins mib_jd1z2: that's the server. It should always be running.
17:51 mib_jd1z2 not like this
17:51 mib_jd1z2 way more system load than normal... hd light been on for almost 16 hours now
17:51 mib_jd1z2 it's the "top" process
17:52 jcamins That doesn't sound good.
17:52 mib_jd1z2 how do i kill it?
17:52 jcamins How many records do you have?
17:52 mib_jd1z2 currently 19000
17:52 mib_jd1z2 from what i've read, it can take that long right?
17:53 jcamins With nineteen thousand? That seems odd.
17:53 jcamins But, perhaps so.
17:53 jwagner 19K should only take maybe 10 minutes to index.
17:53 mib_jd1z2 actually, looking over the log, the import didn't finish until 22:00 hours last night
17:54 jcamins mib_jd1z2: did you import authorities, too?
17:54 mib_jd1z2 no, just a batch of marc21 records
17:54 mib_jd1z2 from libraryworld.com
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17:56 mib_jd1z2 "/etc/init.d/koha-zebra-daemon stop" ?
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18:07 gmcharlt zebrarsrv itself doesn't do the indexing
18:07 gmcharlt it just handles queries
18:08 gmcharlt is there a running zebraidx process?
18:09 mib_jd1z2 no but there are two instances of zebrasrv when I run ps -u koha
18:09 mib_jd1z2 i rebooted the server
18:10 jcamins mib_jd1z2: yes, there should be one for bibs and one for authorities.
18:10 mib_jd1z2 and zebrasrv is still the top process
18:10 mib_jd1z2 i also deleted the records using the mysql statement above
18:10 mib_jd1z2 and tried to run rebuild_zebra, but get the following error:
18:11 mib_jd1z2 Can't locate C4/Context.pm in @INC (@INC contains: /etc/perl /usr/local/lib/perl/5.10.0 /usr/local/share/perl/5.10.0 /usr/lib/perl5 /usr/share/perl5 /usr/lib/perl/5.10 /usr/share/perl/5.10 /usr/local/lib/site_perl .) at /usr/share/koha/bin/migrat​ion_tools/rebuild_zebra.pl line 6. BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /usr/share/koha/bin/migration_tools/rebuild
18:11 jcamins mib_jd1z2: what percentage of your CPU is it using?
18:12 mib_jd1z2 avg. 2, fluctuates as high as 12
18:12 mib_jd1z2 coupled with perl
18:12 jcamins mib_jd1z2: http://koha-community.org/docu[…]tallingupgrading/
18:13 jcamins (that's for the error message)
18:16 mib_jd1z2 thanks, the exports worked, it's rebuilding
18:16 jcamins I wouldn't worry too much about zebrasrv.
18:17 mib_jd1z2 ok
18:17 mib_jd1z2 i mean it's an old dell server, powersc1300
18:18 jcamins Well, that would explain why it's running much slower than I would've expected.
18:18 jcamins Yeah, definitely don't worry about it. 400Mhz is not a lot of CPU.
18:19 mib_jd1z2 rebuild is complete... zebrasrv is no longer the top process
18:19 mib_jd1z2 not even in the list anymore
18:19 mib_jd1z2 thanks for all the help
18:19 jcamins You're welcome.
18:19 jcamins Out of curiosity, what flavor of Linux are you running?
18:19 mib_jd1z2 ubuntu server 9.10
18:20 jcamins Nifty.
18:20 jcamins I guess Ubuntu is less of a resource-hog than I've always believed.
18:20 mib_jd1z2 i'm amazed at the performance improvement after switching over from ms server 2003
18:21 mib_jd1z2 there's some quirks with quickbooks, but other than that it's been great
18:21 jcamins ... I think I must have the wrong type of computer in mind.
18:21 mib_jd1z2 it has two xeon processors
18:21 mib_jd1z2 but only a gig of ram
18:21 jcamins Yeah, definitely the wrong computer.
18:22 mib_jd1z2 while i'm here... i noticed that 3.2 was released
18:22 mib_jd1z2 i'm currently running the beta
18:22 mib_jd1z2 is it worth the headache to upgrade... is it a headache?
18:22 jcamins Dell had a Server 1300 about... what, 8 years ago?
18:22 jcamins mib_jd1z2: probably worth upgrading, but, no, not much of a headache.
18:22 mib_jd1z2 poweredge 1300sc is the full name
18:23 mib_jd1z2 and 8 years ago sounds right for this one
18:23 * jwagner is heading out now -- see you in NZ!
18:23 mib_jd1z2 thanks again everyone
18:23 jcamins Good luck.
18:23 jcamins Just follow the upgrade instructions, and it should be pretty painless.
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18:30 chris Morning wizzyrea_
18:30 wizzyrea_ good morning, how's the kiddo?
18:31 chris Better than yesterday, still not 100% but def on the mend
18:34 chris hows your lil man?
18:35 wizzyrea_ he's still sleeping, we ran ihm right down to the nub yesterday
18:36 chris heh
18:37 jcamins How's NZ, wizzyrea?
18:37 wizzyrea_ I don't want to leave >.>
18:38 wizzyrea_ and usually it's about this time I start missing hom
18:38 wizzyrea_ home
18:40 jcamins Glad to hear it. :)
18:40 slef road trip is go...
18:41 chris slef: cool, safe travels ... oh an the hot pools tarnish silver
18:41 chris just a tip
18:42 wizzyrea_ ooh, have fun on the road trip!
18:45 brendan mornig wizzyrea_ chris slef et al
18:45 brendan enjoy that road trip
18:45 brendan alright wizzyrea_ how was the lotr trip?
18:45 brendan spill them beans
18:45 wizzyrea_ beautiful
18:46 wizzyrea_ www.flickr.com/photos/wizzyrea
18:46 drulm Graphics::Magick   and   PDF::API2::Simple   should these just install OKAY   (lotr = Lord of the Rings?)
18:46 wizzyrea_ those are only the ones I took on my phone, i have zillions more on my proper camera
18:46 jcamins drulm: if you're having problems, you need to install libmodule-install-perl
18:46 jcamins wizzyrea_: you took those with your *phone*?
18:46 wizzyrea_ yup
18:47 jcamins My (now broken) camera didn't take pictures that nice.
18:47 chris whats the egg?
18:47 drulm jcamins: OK, what does it do?
18:47 wizzyrea_ to show to my compatriots how yellow the yolks are
18:47 wizzyrea_ because we have sickly, wan looking eggs
18:48 wizzyrea_ and you have gorgeous, orange delicious eggs.
18:48 chris oh right
18:48 chris i think its cos ours come from chickens
18:48 chris :P
18:48 wizzyrea_ ba dum bum
18:49 jcamins drulm: it's required for compiling those two modules. It was left out of pre-3.2 installation scripts.
18:49 * chris is watching on the top shelf with kahu (tv6 is kids programmes wizzyrea_ )
18:49 wizzyrea_ oooo
18:49 drulm ahhh, thanks will save the info
18:49 wizzyrea_ jcamins: I have a samsung captivate (galaxy s)
18:49 wizzyrea_ it's a great phone
18:50 drulm wizzyrea_: so lotr trip - Lord Of The Rings? :)
18:50 wizzyrea_ brendan: doh I didn't add descriptions
18:50 wizzyrea_ yep
18:51 wizzyrea_ just a sec, I'll do that
18:51 chris wizzyrea_: did you go to weta too?
18:51 wizzyrea_ no, that's on my list
18:51 wizzyrea_ may do that in place of them arket today
18:51 brendan wizzyrea_ cool I was like neat that's a river that means nothing to me
18:52 chris thats not just a river, there are nazgul drowned in there
18:52 jcamins Perhaps I can put off buying a new camera until I have to cave and get one of those infernal devices, and then get just the one device.
18:52 wizzyrea_ ^^
18:52 brendan ah I see it now
18:52 brendan any more hints
18:52 wizzyrea_ rivendell
18:52 brendan everything always looks different
18:53 brendan I wanna see pictures of the elf ears too :)
18:53 wizzyrea_ :( our van didn't have elf ears, I was sad
18:53 brendan awh bummer
18:53 chris @wunder wellington,nz
18:53 munin chris: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 11.0�C (7:00 AM NZDT on October 23, 2010). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 82%. Dew Point: 8.0�C. Pressure: 30.18 in 1022 hPa (Rising).
18:55 chris its really still out there, we need a bit of wind to blow the clouds away
18:55 brendan @wunder 93117
18:55 munin brendan: The current temperature in Northwest Goleta, Goleta, California is 18.1�C (12:06 PM PDT on October 22, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 71%. Dew Point: 13.0�C. Pressure: 30.05 in 1017.5 hPa (Steady).
18:55 brendan @chris seen sekjal or Nate
18:55 munin brendan: Error: "chris" is not a valid command.
18:55 brendan heh
18:55 chris yep
18:55 brendan awesome++
18:55 drulm still no go on Graphics::Magick  <-- I need a wizard for this! :)
18:55 chris dropped sekjal off at his backpackers
18:56 chris and nate was in the lobby reading
18:56 brendan sweet
18:57 chris but we arent sure what room they are in, since nengard went to get them for dinner and the room the lobby told her was full women instead
18:57 chris but they are both in wellington, i can verify that ;)
18:58 drulm Oh KohaCon, yeah lucky so and sos
19:00 wizzyrea_ not one person that I have spoken to about why we're in wellington has given me the blank stare of "oh I don't know what koha (the library software) is" stare
19:01 jcamins _That_ is awesome.
19:01 wizzyrea_ they are all like, oh yea, I've heard of that
19:01 larsw kiwiland is filled with wonderful people
19:01 wizzyrea_ ^^ agreed completely
19:02 larsw and reasonable banks, too
19:02 larsw the uk has its fair share of wondeful people, but no reasonable banks
19:02 jcamins larsw: now I know you're pulling my leg.
19:02 drulm NZ is also shown in many movies as an optimal place to survive a total nuclear exchange, bonus!
19:02 wizzyrea_ hmmm
19:04 larsw jcamins, nope, ten minutes to open a bank account in nz, more than a month so far in the uk :P
19:04 jcamins Sounds about right.
19:04 wizzyrea_ airport security gave my spud a lolly
19:04 larsw anyway... I hope kohacon goes well, and everyone enjoys themselves silly
19:04 wizzyrea_ AIRPORT SECURITY.
19:05 wizzyrea_ we didn't even make fools of ourselves
19:05 wizzyrea_ or take a ghastly long time
19:05 wizzyrea_ we did go through during a slow moment though
19:09 chris heh
19:10 brendan and it seems like most of NZ is waking up
19:12 chris http://identi.ca/notice/57192545
19:12 chris roadtrip is under way
19:12 wizzyrea_ lol ya saw that one
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19:39 chris ata marie Nate
19:39 brendan heya nate
19:39 Nate Hi chris!
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19:40 chris Nate: http://www.wotzon.com/eventlis[…]?event_id=5014989
19:41 chris http://www.wotzon.com/eventlis[…]?event_id=5027229
19:44 chris Pacific Island cultural performances to commemorate those whose lives have been lost during natural disasters. <--- that might be interesting
19:44 chris and i may well end up there with Kahu
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19:45 Nate Cool thnxwe will check that out
19:45 chris cool
19:48 chris http://www.eventfinder.co.nz/w[…]s/wellington/date    is a good place to find things to do too
19:48 Nate When r you planning to head over there?
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19:51 chris @later tell nate not sure if we will kahu is a bit sick with the end of the flu, but if we do it would be round 12
19:51 munin chris: The operation succeeded.
19:52 brendan yay got a chance to chat with nate
19:52 brendan suxs about sekjal's luggage :(
19:54 chris Yeah crappy
19:54 chris Hope it turns up soon
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20:04 chris @later tell nate nope no te papa today but earth rocks is on tomorrow too maybe then
20:04 munin chris: The operation succeeded.
20:36 jcamins Time to close up.
20:36 jcamins Have a good weekend, #koha
20:36 jcamins is now known as jcamins_a
20:57 schuster chris - what date and time is it there right now?
20:58 schuster Don't want to miss too much KohaCon10 next week!
20:58 schuster Guess I'll check the timezone over the weekend...
20:58 schuster Have a good one everyone!  I'm off...
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21:35 CGI059 Hello...
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21:37 burriscj Hi all.
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22:36 sekjal good (localtime), #koha!
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22:52 chris sekjal: if you need I can lend you some tshirts?
22:53 sekjal thanks, chris!  I bought a new outfit today, and the airline called just after to tell me they found my bag, and are sending it to Wellington
22:54 chris Wooot!
22:54 brendan_l woot is right
22:56 sekjal I was nervous about preparing for this trip, but my wife reminded me that all I really needed was my passport, wallet and a cell phone
22:56 sekjal she was totally right
22:56 sekjal and now I have a story
22:57 chris Yup
22:59 chris Find somewhere for breakfast?
22:59 chris :)
23:03 sekjal Nate and I ate at Finc., right next door
23:04 sekjal brb
23:27 sekjal okay, off to meet Nicole for some lunch
23:28 brendan_l sweet
23:28 sekjal cheers, all!
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