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chris_n |
darling: looks like he's brendan_l atm |
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darling |
ah |
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thanjks |
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darling |
brendan_l, does bywater have a voip phone system by any chance? |
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brendan_l |
at the moment we don't |
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@wunder 93117 |
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brendan_l: The current temperature in Northwest Goleta, Goleta, California is 33.9�C (5:23 PM PDT on September 27, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 26%. Dew Point: 12.0�C. Pressure: 29.70 in 1005.6 hPa (Falling). |
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wasabi |
darling: does skype count? :) |
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brendan_l |
darling we don't have voip - we do use skype ;) |
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brendan_l |
bywater just has a 1800 number that we forward to cell phones |
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darling |
brendan_l, i guess there's worse things than skype |
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darling |
we're wanting to probably get a phone call together tomorrow if possible |
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darling |
I'll send you mail to explain |
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brendan_l |
cool |
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brendan_l |
brendan bywatersolutions.com |
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darling |
so -- you're in western US? |
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brendan_l |
I am about 5hours ahead of NZ on the clock but 19 hours behind by date |
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darling |
right |
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darling |
and we just had a time change here |
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darling |
hate that |
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darling |
my wife blames Reagan |
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brendan_l |
ah how recent was that? |
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darling |
night before last |
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brendan_l |
maybe we are only fours hours now |
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brendan_l |
it's 5:30 pm |
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darling |
she's never liked Reagan but I'm with her on that |
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agreed |
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darling |
ok, cool - is 1:30pm here right now |
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darling |
do you think Nicole would be available also? |
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darling |
I'll drop you a note and you can decide what makes sense. |
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we just recently went to his presidential library nearby - cooliest thing was the had an old air-force one airplane there |
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darling |
nice |
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but besides that we didn't like all the other stuff |
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darling |
i guess they do have to swap those out from time to time -- always think of it as one plane |
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darling |
hehe |
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time to enjoy the sun for a bit |
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g'nite |
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will look for the email - when I'm back |
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feel like a yoyo yet logbot? |
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a bouncy net day for TCL-NZ users... |
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darling |
like every other day for TCL-NZ peeps? |
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brendan_l |
so is "The Hobbit" ever going to start filming? |
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darling |
heh |
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darling |
maybe |
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good morning #koha |
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heya cait |
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hi brendan |
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brendan_l: my friend started working on hobbit furniture stuff this week... |
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cait |
@karma xslt |
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cait: Karma for "xslt" has been increased 2 times and decreased 4 times for a total karma of -2. |
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xslt++ |
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chris |
awesome, i was trying to keep up with reading emails and i still have 164 new ones to read |
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hi chris |
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cait |
I got up at 6 am today to finish my record control number links ;) |
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cait |
almost finished now |
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:) |
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ok, work time -bbl! |
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good morning #koha |
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hi #koha |
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hi kf |
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hi ivanc |
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morning magnus |
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guten morgen kf & #koha |
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hi magnus |
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hiya ivanc |
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chris |
*sigh* |
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ouch? |
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chris |
another harley question on the list |
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magnus |
yeah, saw that... |
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slef |
one day I will catch up with the list, but I got tired of posting variations on "what does it say on your about page?" |
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slef |
At least software.coop has the decency to support our own fork until it is merged back into mainline... which I really need to progress on, once this bloody hardware stops messing me about. |
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chris |
i hate hardware |
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magnus |
ditto |
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mib_sq7uz |
I am trying to figure out how Koha all hangs together.....it's difficult......does anyone know if I can get to the raw data before the stylesheet is applied? |
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e.g. <xsl:for-each select="$available_items[generate-id() = generate-id(key('item-by-status-and-branch', concat(items:status, ' ', items:homebranch))[1])]"> |
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how can I get to the place that defines the $available_items etc? |
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slef |
chris: the co-op is very much the hardware supplier of last resort. Other suppliers were only willing to provide Windows black box systems. |
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slef |
mib_sq7uz: read the code? |
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slef: :-) |
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slef |
mib_sq7uz: seriously: grep -rn available_items catalogue # or whatever bit of koha is using that. |
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mib_sq7uz: you are looking at an xslt variable, it is defined somewhere in the xslt stylesheet |
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kf |
not sure what you are searching for |
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magnus |
mib_sq7uz: http://perldoc.koha-community.org/ might help |
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slef |
I think mib_sq7uz is hoping for an schema or something which would allow its definition. |
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slef |
for the input to the xslt |
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Sorry....got caught up on something there.......slef: That is what I was hoping for, a document base which might reference that sort of thing. |
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I realise you guys are doing enough work building the app so I don';t mean to sound ungreatful |
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Error -1? |
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just noticed that when adding multiple tags with the same subtag, e.g 650 $a, that Koha doesn't repeat the 650 tag, instead adds it to the existing one. This is a bug.....has anyone else noticed it, not in the bugs database# |
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kf |
chris_n: around? |
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owen |
It says a lot about PTFS's actual willingness to play nice with the community that Koha.org still promotes Harley as Koha. |
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heya kf |
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kf |
chris_n: ah sorry |
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chris_n |
np, still here |
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kf |
chris_n: I was trying to create patron cards from the module, using the sample template and layout |
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kf |
but I always get an error or a pdf file I can't open :( |
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chris_n |
kf: open the pdf with a text editor and tell me the error indicated there |
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kf |
I am testing on my dev install now, I have a batch of patrons, HB-PC0001 and Test Layout, starting with 1 |
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chris_n |
most likely you need the following two patches |
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chris_n |
http://git.koha-community.org/[…]/heads/k_bug_5182 |
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kf |
An Error has Occurred! Error 500 |
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chris_n |
http://git.koha-community.org/[…]/heads/k_bug_5183 |
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kf |
the koha error message |
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chris_n |
hmm |
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chris_n |
I've not seen that one |
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chris_n |
and that is what is inside of the corrupted pdf? |
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kf |
no, that's what happens in my dev install |
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kf |
my other install had the samples fiels not installed, so I added them manually |
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kf |
there the pdf can't be opened |
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kf |
I have not saved the file, let me redo it |
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chris_n |
yes, but open the pdf with a text editor such as vim |
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kf |
ok |
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kf |
hm |
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kf |
can't create it now, after I click on the pdf icon... nothing happens |
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kf |
the browser tab shows busy, but I get no result until our proxy timeout |
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chris_n |
I'm not sure what's wrong there; when I export a patron card batch using that template on HEAD, perl throws a hash ref related error |
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chris_n |
this is fixed by the patches I refer to above |
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kf |
ok |
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chris_n |
the error is inside the corrupted pdf |
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chris_n |
specifically it is: Not a HASH reference at /home/cnighswonger/Repositories/koha.3.2.labels\/patroncards/create-pdf.pl line 144. |
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chris_n |
opps |
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chris_n |
an extra slash in there after 'labels', but you get the idea |
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kf |
chris_n: no pdf creation here - so perhaps a different problem :( |
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chris_n |
I cannot account for the 500 error |
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kf |
I am checking the logs now |
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chris_n |
maybe a file permission problem |
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kf |
hm perhaps graphics magick |
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anyone know how to stop the Collection description being truncated in the Item Details page? E.g collection "Printable Collection A". Displays as "Printable C" |
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has words for the guy who put a "sleep" button so close to the ESC key on his keyboard |
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owen |
Okay that one was just crappy internet |
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New commit(s) kohagit: Merge remote branch 'koha-fbc/k_bug_5183' into to-push <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]c12bfa881e94b208f> / Merge remote branch 'koha-fbc/k_bug_5182' into to-push <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]c6981cd3f602c138e> / Bug 5183 Incorrect hash dereferencing syntax causes an error to be thrown when attemp... <http://git |
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owen |
I seem to have. Similarly, I record everything everyone says for later reference. |
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chris_n |
HA! |
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wb pastebot |
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OpenUser |
Afternoon....My Koha 3.06 has a problem with the Availability showing differently on the opac-search.pl compared to the opac-detail screen. The former showing an item checked out, the latter as checked in. It should be Checked In. |
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OpenUser |
Any ideas where to start? |
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sekjal |
OpenUser: is you Zebra cronjob running, and if so, how often? |
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OpenUser |
yep, every 2 mins |
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sekjal |
and the zebrasrv process is running? |
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OpenUser |
yep: ps -ef > /usr/bin/zebrasrv -v none,fatal,warn -f /etc/koha/koha-conf.xml |
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sekjal |
do other changes reflect themselves? If you added a title, say, and waited two minutes, would you be able to retrieve it with search? |
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OpenUser |
yeah, in fact, it would update itself sooner that the 2 minutes |
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sekjal |
in opac-search.pl? |
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OpenUser |
Yes. |
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sekjal |
huh |
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sekjal |
well, then it doesn't seem to be a zebra issue, which is the most common explanation for such behavior |
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OpenUser |
It's a little strange, isn't it? |
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OpenUser |
even a complete rebuild of the indexes didn't solve the problem..... |
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kf1 |
OpenUser: did you change something in your items table, using sql? |
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OpenUser |
now that you mention it, yeah. Couple weeks ago I updated the homebranch as it's a Single Branch site and there was NULL values there. I ran the mainteaince script after though.... |
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kf |
ok, so this does not really explain your problem than |
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kf |
we have used the sync script too a couple of times and it worked without problems |
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OpenUser |
would you expect to see this problem if I did update the items table and didn't run the script? |
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kf |
I think if the items tabel adn the marc_xml part differ, you can see such things |
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kf |
koha someties uses the xml for display and sometimes the items table information |
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sekjal |
what does your items.onloan value say for the item in question, and is it the same as the biblioitem.marcxml's 952 field for that item? |
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OpenUser |
one minute.....I'll check |
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jcamins |
Morning, #koha |
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kf |
hi jcamins |
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kf |
all cards printed? |
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jcamins |
No, but we planned them. |
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jcamins |
I'm printing them letterpress, so it'll take a while. |
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OpenUser |
items.onloan says it was onload back in June....... |
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OpenUser |
" biblioitem.marcxml's 952 field for that item".....can you help me out here? If I edit the same item the checked out date is the same as items.onloan and the type is LOANABLE |
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sekjal |
so the date in the 952$q is the same as the date in items.onloan? |
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OpenUser |
Sorry, I am a little confused. The bib for this record doesn't have a 952 tag. The item information (Bib>Edit>Item) shows the checked out date the same as the onloan date. Which is the last time it was checked out, but it has been checked back in since! |
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OpenUser |
or do you mean the biblioitem table? |
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jcamins |
Hm. The "Cataloging" tab is giving me an error. |
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kf |
biblioitems.marc_xml |
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sekjal |
I mean the biblioitem table, viewing the raw MARCXML |
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OpenUser |
yeah, just twigged that's what you meant now, once sec |
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OpenUser |
one sec |
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jcamins |
Okay, weird. |
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jcamins |
The error is only when I go from Local Use to Cataloging. |
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jcamins |
Ah. |
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jcamins |
Typo. |
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jcamins |
Should be "Cataloguing." |
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OpenUser |
OK.....biblioitems.marcxml 952 $q = items.onloan |
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jcamins |
Someone remind me to write a patch tonight. |
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sekjal |
yes |
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kf |
jcamins: you want to have some fun? :) |
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jcamins |
:) |
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OpenUser |
So it that good or bad? |
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sekjal |
OpenUser: that's the correct mapping. |
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sekjal |
OpenUser: what is the actual value for that specific item? |
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kf |
sekjal, jcamins: I have a branch with a lot of xslt work on $w links in records - I will try to get it in the public on the weekend |
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jcamins |
kf++ |
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OpenUser |
<subfield code="q">2010-07-06</subfield> |
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sekjal |
OpenUser: and that's the same as your items.onloan value, I take it? |
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kf |
not sure it will work for others like for us, so I would really like it if you could look and make suggestions |
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OpenUser |
yes, exactly. |
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sekjal |
okay, so it's not a sync issue |
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sekjal |
and everything else updates normally... so it's not a Zebra issue |
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sekjal |
I'm really not sure what could be up with this. |
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OpenUser |
You can view it, if that helps!? |
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OpenUser |
Imean the OPAC |
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sekjal |
what's your OPACResultsXSLT system preference set to? |
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OpenUser |
It's set to ON |
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OpenUser |
Do you mean: XSLTResultsDisplay |
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OpenUser |
in OPAC |
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kf |
wizzyrea: around? |
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sekjal |
OpenUser, ah, I mean OPACXSLTResultsDisplay |
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sekjal |
though, that patch may not be in 3.0.6... |
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sekjal |
if not, then yes, I mean XSLTResultsDisplay |
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OpenUser |
Doesn't exist, 3.06? |
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OpenUser |
OK, it's set to ON for XSLTResultsDisplay |
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sekjal |
link to OPAC? |
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OpenUser |
http://80.93.23.59 |
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OpenUser |
Search for "Architecture" then look at item 9 |
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kf |
an outline of european architecture? |
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kf |
is available for me |
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sekjal |
okay, well, there is a logical inconsistency in your item data: your date acquired is after the onloan date. |
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kf |
oh, that was number 8 |
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* kf |
hides |
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OpenUser |
LOL |
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kf |
sorry :( |
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sekjal |
your system may think you lent the item before you every actually had it |
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OpenUser |
How's that? |
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sekjal |
the Date Acquired value (952$d) is 2010-09-07 |
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sekjal |
so, your MARC record is showing the item was acquired in September, but was loaned in June and due in July |
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sekjal |
that doesn't make any sense, at least when thinking like a machine |
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OpenUser |
OK....this DB was migrated from another system, so I can't guarentee the source. However, and this might sound silly, but does Koha look in that much detail when, i.e the MARC data tag of Purchased Date, before allowing circ rules etc...... |
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OpenUser |
What I mean is, if I update this BIB to a purchased date in the past, do you think this will solve the problem!? |
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sekjal |
OpenUser: perhaps |
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sekjal |
it's the only thing I can think of right now |
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OpenUser |
OK..... I shall try it with this one bib....do I need to run anything other that Zebra when I make the change? |
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sekjal |
if you make the change with SQL, you'll need to sync |
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sekjal |
if you do it through the staff client, no |
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sekjal |
your cron will take care of it |
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OpenUser |
But thought Marc editor in the Staff? |
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OpenUser |
Actually, forget that last line! |
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owen |
What eerily familiar story: http://www.zdnet.com/blog/open[…]ion-and-fork/7445 |
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jcamins |
Who owns libreoffice.org? |
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wizzyrea |
the document foundation |
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wizzyrea |
http://www.documentfoundation.org/faq/ |
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wizzyrea |
kf: now I am |
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wizzyrea |
sup? |
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jcamins |
I was referring to the fact that their official website is .com. |
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jcamins |
But they own both. |
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wizzyrea |
I love this |
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wizzyrea |
A: LibreOffice is The Document Foundation's reason for existence. We do not have and will not have a commercial product which receives preferential treatment. We only have one focus - delivering the best free office suite for our users - LibreOffice. |
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jcamins |
Welcome back, logbot. |
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OpenUser |
So, I updated the Purchased Date, ran the sync script, rebuild the zebra index and the problem remains...... |
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owen |
Thanks for that OpenOffice link wizzyrea. It's a hard lesson, realizing you can't be beholden to any company even if their intentions seem to be good |
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wizzyrea |
a lot of the rest are "not for loan" |
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owen: I thought it was instructive |
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wizzyrea |
and LibreKoha has kind of a nice ring to it ;) |
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wizzyrea |
though KohaLibre reminds me uncomfortably of a chubby man in a leotard. |
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kf |
has someone a link to the git stats for 3.2? I think chris did something like that |
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kf |
looking for a picture to show how many people are involved |
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rhcl_away |
http://www.documentfoundation.org/faq/ <-- very interesting. I wasn't aware of these recent organizational developments. I've just finished installing OxygenOffice everywhere. |
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owen |
Q: And why are you calling the software "LibreOffice" instead of "OpenOffice.org"? |
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owen |
A: The OpenOffice.org trademark is owned by Oracle Corporation. Our hope is that Oracle will donate this to to the Foundation, along with the other assets it holds in trust for the Community |
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rhcl_away |
I'd be interested in a diff of the two codebases (OOo vs LO) |
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wizzyrea |
i'm about to install LO |
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wizzyrea |
icon's the same >.> |
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rhcl_away |
KohaLibre and LibreKoha are both hard to pronounce. I like Tiger Koha much better. |
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owen |
Tiger? |
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rhcl_away |
Strong imagery. |
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rhcl_away |
Mean |
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rhcl_away |
Tough |
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rhcl_away |
Dangerous |
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rhcl_away |
Wild |
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rhcl_away is now known as rhcl |
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rhcl |
Of course, there is also IBM's Lotus Symphony. http://symphony.lotus.com/soft[…]ony/home.nsf/home |
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rhcl |
Played with it once, seemed a little slow. I though it was GPL'd, but the current license isn't immediately apparent to me from IBMs web site. |
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OpenUser |
Still struggling.......if I check the item out then back in again it updates something* and the two screens (results and details) now match. Weird! |
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OpenUser |
Anyway.....last one for the day! Any easy way to get the collection code on the OPAC results screen? |
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owen |
OpenUser: No |
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owen |
Collection code is generally considered to be an item-level piece of information |
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owen |
And the results screen shows mostly biblio-level information |
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jcamins |
Hey, when y'all are reminding me to write a patch for the sysprefs, remind me to investigate the authorities linking. |
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OpenUser |
Thanks Owen.... |
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wizzyrea |
ooh, they've already made some nice changes to the libreoffice interface |
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wizzyrea |
it's purtier |
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chris_n |
libreoffice...?? |
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wizzyrea |
and faster |
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chris_n |
pretty and fast is nearly as nice as pretty and good :) |
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wizzyrea |
http://www.zdnet.com/blog/open[…]ion-and-fork/7445 |
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jcamins |
chris_n: http://www.libreoffice.org/ |
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wonders if he is hearing an echo or a prophecy here |
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* wizzyrea |
wondered it too |
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* chris_n |
lowers his opinion of a foundation one more notch |
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chris_n |
"It was created in the belief that the culture born of an independent Foundation brings out the best in contributors and will deliver the best software for users." |
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chris_n |
note the operative term here is "independent" |
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kf |
jcamins: we have a lot of linked authorites |
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kf |
jcamins: or better a lot of authorities linked by $9 to the records |
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jcamins |
Right. |
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jcamins |
The problem I have is that the authority record contains fields that authority records shouldn't contain. |
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jcamins |
(subfield 'e' for personal names, for example) |
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jcamins |
And it'd be really nice if we supported subfield authorities. |
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jcamins |
Is there any way to change the 003 field in all the records in my catalog at once? |
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jcamins |
Oh, I guess I could export them all, change them, and reimport. |
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wizzyrea |
no facility in batch item edit to unset a status like "not for loan" |
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wizzyrea |
? |
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wizzyrea |
or change it to <null> |
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jcamins |
wizzyrea: yes, created an authorized value, and make one of the options 0. |
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jcamins |
:) |
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wizzyrea |
OOOO |
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wizzyrea |
karma for you if that works |
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jcamins |
I think the batch edit doesn't work for one of the item fields, unfortunately. |
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wizzyrea |
mmm |
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jcamins |
Let's hope it's not the field you need to change. |
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wizzyrea |
no, I just need to change not for loan to loanable |
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wizzyrea |
alas |
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wizzyrea |
that doesn't work |
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jcamins |
:( |
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wizzyrea |
hmm |
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reva |
Good afternoon y'all. I have a question regarding 245c in Koha 3.2. On the OPAC, does it show Title / Statement of Responsibility ? Because in my 3.0.6, 245c is set to show; but is showing only when I do the Card view (OPAC) and ISBD view (Staff side). The customary practice seems to be to have it show in the normal view also(Look at LCCN : 95169646 ) |
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jcamins |
reva: it does not seem to show, no. |
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reva |
Hi jcamins: maybe it is buggy? Because it is normal to show it at the head of the record even in Normal View. |
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jcamins |
reva: perhaps so, yes. |
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jcamins |
I would suggest filing a bug report, if one hasn't already been filed. |
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reva |
Yes, I will file it as suggestion then in the bug site, if there is no mention of it yet. |
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reva |
jcamins: would you ask (if you do not know it) about this?: In a set of search results, how do I set it so it shows "see also" references? |
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jcamins |
reva: I have no idea how to get See Also references to show in the OPAC. |
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jcamins |
I don't think you can. |
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reva |
jcamins: another thing I noticed: I have a 100 (Main entry-personal name) and a 710 (Added entry-corporate name), I have the proper MARC/ISBD paragraph punctuation: Taylor, B.N. But in the OPAC display it squished the semantic elements together from the 100 and 710 fields. |
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jcamins |
It'd be a very nice feature. |
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reva |
jcamins: do the "see also "see from" references show for you in staff side? |
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jcamins |
I don't think I have any authority records with See references. |
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jcamins |
Oh, they show up when I'm searching for an authority. |
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jcamins |
(to link) |
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reva |
yes, for me to; but the other functionality of an authority is to lead the CATALOG user to other forms of the name, etc. Anyhow, about the other issue I just mentioned: 100, 710 entries squishing is for the very LCCN record: 95169646. You can import into your database and see for yourself |
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kf |
reva: you can activate authority search for opac too |
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reva |
how do I activitate Authorites in OPAC? from where in the admin module? |
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kf |
there it shows the see also forms, I don't think showing them in the catalog directly is very user friendly |
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kf |
I dont know the right sys pref name |
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kf |
search for authorities |
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sekjal is now known as sekjal_a |
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kf |
and a click on an author in the opac will find all titles - if there is an authority behind it |
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kf |
I have to go now, quite late here |
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kf |
bye all! |
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reva |
ok, I will search authorities in sys pref. But as far as I can see, the only option among the four in that module that might do this is: AuthDisplayHierarchy. Could it be the one? (It is currently off in my settings.) |
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jcamins |
Maybe. Why don't you try it? |
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jcamins |
The worst thing that will happen is that things will stop working, and then you can just disable it again. |
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reva |
jcamins: ok, :) here it goes. |
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reva |
well what kf just wrote about clicking the links in OPAC and bringing up other works by the same author already worked for me. But I am not sure what turning on the AuthDisplayHierarchy did. Could you point me to a couple of good records in LC for testing the "see also" and "see from"? |
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jcamins |
Not really, no. |
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jcamins |
Maybe search for Mark Twain? |
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jcamins |
And Samuel Clemens? |
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reva |
ok, I will look under the fail-proof Clemens, Samuel Longhorn.:) |
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jcamins |
That's the only example that comes to mind. |
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reva |
believe it or not, even before I got into the bowels of this, mark twain was the choice for me; I did not know then that he was a staid search authority search for developers. And without any exposure, another author I always input tested was Thomas Mann. |
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wizzyrea |
can I say I really appreciate whoever wrote the batchMod.pl |
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wizzyrea |
it's easy to read. |
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cait |
hi #koha |
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rhcl |
hi cait |
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chris |
Morning |
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chris_n |
g'morning chris |
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rhcl |
afternoon |
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jcamins |
Hello. |
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jcamins |
By the way, who wants to sign off on the patch I'm going to write to fix the link between the Local Use and Cataloging tabs in sysprefs? |
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chris |
If you email it to me, I will |
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jcamins |
Okay. Thanks. |
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jcamins |
I will send it to you as soon as I write the patch. :) |
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chris |
Sweet |
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jcamins |
Huh. |
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jcamins |
I just looked at the offending code. |
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chris |
Heh |
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jcamins |
Perhaps I will try to eliminate the redundant include. |
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chris |
If it just does the local use ones it would make more sense |
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chris |
The others are all covered by the new sysprefs code and are translatable |
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chris |
Ok my stop |
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chris |
Bbiab |
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@wunder Konstanz |
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cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 9.8�C (9:36 PM CEST on September 28, 2010). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 83%. Dew Point: 7.0�C. Windchill: 10.0�C. Pressure: 30.12 in 1019.9 hPa (Steady). |
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brendan |
@wunder 93117 |
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munin |
brendan: The current temperature in Northwest Goleta, Goleta, California is 29.9�C (12:36 PM PDT on September 28, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 42%. Dew Point: 16.0�C. Pressure: 29.80 in 1009.0 hPa (Steady). |
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brendan |
wow another record breaking "indian-summer" day here - no sleep for me tonight |
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is envious |
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jcamins |
@wunder 11105 |
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jcamins: The current temperature in Astoria, Astoria, New York is 23.2�C (3:35 PM EDT on September 28, 2010). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 91%. Dew Point: 22.0�C. Pressure: 29.67 in 1004.6 hPa (Steady). Tornado Watch 686 in effect until 6 PM EDT this evening... |
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jcamins |
_Another_ tornado watch? |
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wizzyrea |
@wunder lawrence ks |
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wizzyrea: The current temperature in Channel 6 Downtown, Lawrence, Kansas is 24.4�C (2:46 PM CDT on September 28, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 49%. Dew Point: 13.0�C. Pressure: 29.82 in 1009.7 hPa (Falling). |
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wizzyrea |
just about perfect. |
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chris_n |
@wunder 28334 |
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chris_n: The current temperature in Erwin, North Carolina is 27.0�C (3:39 PM EDT on September 28, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 42%. Dew Point: 13.0�C. Pressure: 29.73 in 1007 hPa (Falling). |
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reva |
what does @wunder mean? Just curious. |
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jcamins |
It looks up the weather with wunderground.com. |
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reva |
thanks jcamins: |
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collum |
@wunder 41017 |
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collum: The current temperature in Taylor Mill, Taylor Mill, Kentucky is 16.8�C (3:51 PM EDT on September 28, 2010). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 66%. Dew Point: 10.0�C. Pressure: 29.78 in 1008.4 hPa (Rising). |
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jcamins |
reva: incidentally, IRC nicknames do not include ':' |
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reva |
ok jcamins thanks.I always saw them as part of the name, hee hee. I am ignorant in a lot of urban/techie things, sigh. |
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rhcl |
@wunder Turks and Caicos |
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rhcl: Error: No such location could be found. |
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rhcl |
@wunder 'Turks and Caicos' |
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rhcl: Error: No such location could be found. |
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reva |
chris, they are an overseas possession of Britain int he caribbean; actually northeast of Puerta Rico. |
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jcamins |
@wunder Turks Islands |
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jcamins: Error: No such location could be found. |
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reva |
I meant munin of course. |
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jcamins |
@wunder Providenciales, Turks Islands |
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jcamins: The current temperature in Providenciales, Turks Islands is 31.0�C (3:00 PM EDT on September 28, 2010). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 75%. Dew Point: 26.0�C. Pressure: 29.74 in 1007 hPa (Falling). |
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rhcl: ^^ |
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collum |
@wunder pls |
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collum: The current temperature in Providenciales, Turks Islands is 31.0�C (4:00 PM EDT on September 28, 2010). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 75%. Dew Point: 26.0�C. Pressure: 29.72 in 1006 hPa (Falling). |
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@wunder 21°30′18″N 71°45′14″W |
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munin |
rhcl: Error: No such location could be found. |
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rhcl |
:( |
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collum |
airport code |
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rhcl |
I wanna do it my way. Ain't this Burger King? |
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rhcl: that came through completely warped. Perhaps munin can't understand UTF-8? |
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@wunder nca |
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rhcl: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information. |
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Uhhh ooohhh, I'm in big trouble now. |
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CGI684: did you take a look a the FAQ? http://koha-community.org/docu[…]on/faq/searching/ |
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jcamins |
I can't remember which of those is the usual culprit, but I do remember that one of the procedures there often fixes that problem. |
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jcamins |
What version of Koha are you using? |
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CGI684 |
oh wow, i have never seen this faq |
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CGI684 |
i don't think there's a link to it on the koha.org site |
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chris |
thats because the koha.org site isnt the official koha website anymore |
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CGI684 |
i'm on the latest git |
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chris |
and is unmaintainable by the koha community |
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CGI684 |
oh.. |
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chris |
(we dont have access to it) |
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CGI684 |
i've been living under a rock then lol |
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chris |
http://koha-community.org/ <-- the real koha site |
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chris |
(it explains why we had to move too) |
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chris |
and is kept up to date ... tell your friends :-) |
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CGI684 |
woohoo |
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CGI684 |
i'll go read through this faq and see if that can't resolve my problem |
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CGI684 |
thanks guys |
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chris |
np |
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reva |
hi anyone, what do you use the shelving control number for? It is unfamiliar to me from my previous incarnations:) |
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jcamins |
For example for microfilms that are just shelves from 1 to whatever. |
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jcamins |
*shelved |
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reva |
thanks jcamins. I did not use colon, see:) |
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jcamins |
Someone else can respond to Janusz. I'm too tired. |
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jcamins |
On which note, so long, #koha. |
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cya jcamins |
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Joe |
Does anyone here, use EOS GLAS Serials Module? |
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chris |
not me |
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Joe |
I am wanting to switch from that to KOHA Serials, but I would ideally be able to transfer our current holdings from our current Serials program. |
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chris |
does it have an export feature? |
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(ps its Koha, not KOHA its a maori word not an acronym ... pet peeve of mine :)) |
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Joe |
I don't think so, but I found what looks like a CSV file. |
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Joe |
Ah, thanks for the note. :-) |
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oh if you can get it out to CSV, you are most of the way along |
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Is there a good tutorial on importing the data to Koha Serials? |
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chris |
nope, you'd be the first doing it for EOS GLAS afaik |
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so most of the work would be matching fields up |
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Joe |
Is there a good place to go for a bit of guidance on importing data into Koha Serials? |
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chris |
if anything exists and I dont think it does, it would be on wiki.koha-community.org |
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chris |
basically you need to take a look at the serials table, in the koha db |
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Joe |
Gotcha. |
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chris |
serial, subscription, subscriptionhistory, and subscriptionroutinglist |
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chris |
would be the ones |
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Joe |
Those would be files in folders or can I get to those via the website interface? |
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chris |
do you have access to your database? |
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I have Koha Setup on my machine as a trial run. |
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I have it installed on Ubuntu. |
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chris |
if you jump into mysql |
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mysql -uusername -p koha |
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(it will prompt for your password) |
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then |
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describe serial; |
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etc |
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brb |
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Joe |
Gotcha, dredging up my Database Class in college. hehe. :-) |
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I got it. Looks like this isn't going to be easy. hehe. :-( Ah well, what's worth doing isn't necessarily easy. hehe. :-) |
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ok...thanks. |
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also, any good tutorials on creating a custom MARC? the ones i've seen linked to seem complex for a newbie to the MARC idea |
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chris |
(it doesnt seem to happen when running from git or the tarball .. but we try to use the debian jquery library, instead of the one bundled with koha in the packages) |
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chris |
hmm i dont know of any, maybe ask on the main mailing list |
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lgw_wrt |
ok...thanks. i'l have to sign up on that, but i have to run to catch a train |
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thanks |
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no worries |
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lgw_wrt: ah, yeah, package error: it uses the system jquery rather than the built in one and things get hinky due to version mis-matches. |
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I haven't figured out the exact cause, but I'll see about building a new package without the issue, I fixed it in our internal deployment, but the debian.k-c.org ones track master, and this patch hasn't been pulled into there yet. |
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robin |
The patch is in bug 5184 - bit it's a bit of a bandaid. |
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Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5184 enhancement, P5, ---, robin, ASSIGNED, Upgrade to support jQuery 1.4.2 |
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robin |
lgw_wrt and anyone else interested: I've just published new versions of the packages which should fix that issue. |
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robin |
and incorporate the new fixes from master |
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chris |
yay! |
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Are template variable names not case-sensitive? |
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chris |
no |
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chris |
not in html::template anyway |
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jcamins |
Ah. |
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jcamins |
That would explain why this seems to work other than the misspelling. |
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jcamins |
Well, not entirely. |
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jcamins |
I'm still not seeing where these variables are set. |
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CGI581 |
iam new to koha....need help on installation and configuartion |
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jcamins |
Oh, stupid! Of course I'm not seeing it. We don't use systempreferences.pl for anything other than Local Use. |
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thought he said that :) |
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jcamins |
Yes, and I knew that. |
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jcamins |
I was trying to determine I was in the right file by searching for "Acquisitions" (it's first alphabetically). |
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wasabi |
robin++ |
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jcamins |
Hm. |
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jcamins |
Does anyone else experience the following: |
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jcamins |
When you click on the link to go to System Preferences from the main Admin screen, it brings you to the Local Use tab but with preferences.pl? |
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jcamins |
(so it says there are no variables) |
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@wunder 93117 |
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brendan_l: The current temperature in Northwest Goleta, Goleta, California is 28.9�C (4:52 PM PDT on September 28, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 44%. Dew Point: 15.0�C. Pressure: 29.77 in 1008.0 hPa (Steady). |
