Time Nick Message 23:50 munin brendan_l: The current temperature in Northwest Goleta, Goleta, California is 28.9�C (4:52 PM PDT on September 28, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 44%. Dew Point: 15.0�C. Pressure: 29.77 in 1008.0 hPa (Steady). 23:50 brendan_l @wunder 93117 22:55 jcamins (so it says there are no variables) 22:55 jcamins When you click on the link to go to System Preferences from the main Admin screen, it brings you to the Local Use tab but with preferences.pl? 22:54 jcamins Does anyone else experience the following: 22:54 jcamins Hm. 22:51 wasabi robin++ 22:48 jcamins I was trying to determine I was in the right file by searching for "Acquisitions" (it's first alphabetically). 22:48 jcamins Yes, and I knew that. 22:48 * chris thought he said that :) 22:47 jcamins Oh, stupid! Of course I'm not seeing it. We don't use systempreferences.pl for anything other than Local Use. 22:45 CGI581 iam new to koha....need help on installation and configuartion 22:45 jcamins I'm still not seeing where these variables are set. 22:44 jcamins Well, not entirely. 22:44 jcamins That would explain why this seems to work other than the misspelling. 22:43 jcamins Ah. 22:43 chris not in html::template anyway 22:43 chris no 22:43 jcamins_a Are template variable names not case-sensitive? 22:26 chris yay! 22:25 robin and incorporate the new fixes from master 22:24 robin lgw_wrt and anyone else interested: I've just published new versions of the packages which should fix that issue. 21:51 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5184 enhancement, P5, ---, robin, ASSIGNED, Upgrade to support jQuery 1.4.2 21:51 robin The patch is in bug 5184 - bit it's a bit of a bandaid. 21:48 robin I haven't figured out the exact cause, but I'll see about building a new package without the issue, I fixed it in our internal deployment, but the debian.k-c.org ones track master, and this patch hasn't been pulled into there yet. 21:47 robin lgw_wrt: ah, yeah, package error: it uses the system jquery rather than the built in one and things get hinky due to version mis-matches. 21:01 chris no worries 21:01 lgw_wrt thanks 21:01 lgw_wrt ok...thanks. i'l have to sign up on that, but i have to run to catch a train 21:01 chris hmm i dont know of any, maybe ask on the main mailing list 21:00 chris (it doesnt seem to happen when running from git or the tarball .. but we try to use the debian jquery library, instead of the one bundled with koha in the packages) 21:00 lgw_wrt also, any good tutorials on creating a custom MARC? the ones i've seen linked to seem complex for a newbie to the MARC idea 21:00 lgw_wrt ok...thanks. 20:56 Joe I got it. Looks like this isn't going to be easy. hehe. :-( Ah well, what's worth doing isn't necessarily easy. hehe. :-) 20:41 Joe Gotcha, dredging up my Database Class in college. hehe. :-) 20:41 chris brb 20:41 chris etc 20:41 chris describe serial; 20:41 chris then 20:41 chris (it will prompt for your password) 20:41 chris mysql -uusername -p koha 20:40 chris if you jump into mysql 20:40 Joe I have it installed on Ubuntu. 20:40 Joe I have Koha Setup on my machine as a trial run. 20:40 chris do you have access to your database? 20:40 Joe Those would be files in folders or can I get to those via the website interface? 20:39 chris would be the ones 20:39 chris serial, subscription, subscriptionhistory, and subscriptionroutinglist 20:38 Joe Gotcha. 20:38 chris basically you need to take a look at the serials table, in the koha db 20:37 chris if anything exists and I dont think it does, it would be on wiki.koha-community.org 20:37 Joe Is there a good place to go for a bit of guidance on importing data into Koha Serials? 20:35 chris so most of the work would be matching fields up 20:35 chris nope, you'd be the first doing it for EOS GLAS afaik 20:35 Joe Is there a good tutorial on importing the data to Koha Serials? 20:34 chris oh if you can get it out to CSV, you are most of the way along 20:34 Joe Ah, thanks for the note. :-) 20:34 Joe I don't think so, but I found what looks like a CSV file. 20:34 chris (ps its Koha, not KOHA its a maori word not an acronym ... pet peeve of mine :)) 20:33 chris does it have an export feature? 20:33 Joe I am wanting to switch from that to KOHA Serials, but I would ideally be able to transfer our current holdings from our current Serials program. 20:33 chris not me 20:32 Joe Does anyone here, use EOS GLAS Serials Module? 20:13 chris cya jcamins 20:12 jcamins On which note, so long, #koha. 20:12 jcamins Someone else can respond to Janusz. I'm too tired. 20:09 reva thanks jcamins. I did not use colon, see:) 20:07 jcamins *shelved 20:07 jcamins For example for microfilms that are just shelves from 1 to whatever. 20:06 reva hi anyone, what do you use the shelving control number for? It is unfamiliar to me from my previous incarnations:) 20:04 chris np 20:04 CGI684 thanks guys 20:04 CGI684 i'll go read through this faq and see if that can't resolve my problem 20:04 CGI684 woohoo 20:04 chris and is kept up to date ... tell your friends :-) 20:03 chris (it explains why we had to move too) 20:03 chris http://koha-community.org/ <-- the real koha site 20:03 CGI684 i've been living under a rock then lol 20:03 chris (we dont have access to it) 20:03 CGI684 oh.. 20:03 chris and is unmaintainable by the koha community 20:03 CGI684 i'm on the latest git 20:03 chris thats because the koha.org site isnt the official koha website anymore 20:02 CGI684 i don't think there's a link to it on the koha.org site 20:02 CGI684 oh wow, i have never seen this faq 20:01 jcamins What version of Koha are you using? 20:01 jcamins I can't remember which of those is the usual culprit, but I do remember that one of the procedures there often fixes that problem. 20:00 jcamins CGI684: did you take a look a the FAQ? http://koha-community.org/documentation/faq/searching/ 19:56 rhcl Uhhh ooohhh, I'm in big trouble now. 19:56 munin rhcl: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information. 19:56 rhcl @wunder nca 19:55 jcamins rhcl: that came through completely warped. Perhaps munin can't understand UTF-8? 19:54 rhcl I wanna do it my way. Ain't this Burger King? 19:54 collum airport code 19:54 rhcl :( 19:54 munin rhcl: Error: No such location could be found. 19:54 rhcl @wunder 21°30′18″N 71°45′14″W 19:54 munin collum: The current temperature in Providenciales, Turks Islands is 31.0�C (4:00 PM EDT on September 28, 2010). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 75%. Dew Point: 26.0�C. Pressure: 29.72 in 1006 hPa (Falling). 19:54 collum @wunder pls 19:53 jcamins rhcl: ^^ 19:53 munin jcamins: The current temperature in Providenciales, Turks Islands is 31.0�C (3:00 PM EDT on September 28, 2010). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 75%. Dew Point: 26.0�C. Pressure: 29.74 in 1007 hPa (Falling). 19:53 jcamins @wunder Providenciales, Turks Islands 19:52 reva I meant munin of course. 19:52 munin jcamins: Error: No such location could be found. 19:52 jcamins @wunder Turks Islands 19:52 reva chris, they are an overseas possession of Britain int he caribbean; actually northeast of Puerta Rico. 19:51 munin rhcl: Error: No such location could be found. 19:51 rhcl @wunder 'Turks and Caicos' 19:51 munin rhcl: Error: No such location could be found. 19:51 rhcl @wunder Turks and Caicos 19:51 reva ok jcamins thanks.I always saw them as part of the name, hee hee. I am ignorant in a lot of urban/techie things, sigh. 19:49 jcamins reva: incidentally, IRC nicknames do not include ':' 19:48 munin collum: The current temperature in Taylor Mill, Taylor Mill, Kentucky is 16.8�C (3:51 PM EDT on September 28, 2010). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 66%. Dew Point: 10.0�C. Pressure: 29.78 in 1008.4 hPa (Rising). 19:48 collum @wunder 41017 19:48 reva thanks jcamins: 19:47 jcamins It looks up the weather with wunderground.com. 19:46 reva what does @wunder mean? Just curious. 19:44 munin chris_n: The current temperature in Erwin, North Carolina is 27.0�C (3:39 PM EDT on September 28, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 42%. Dew Point: 13.0�C. Pressure: 29.73 in 1007 hPa (Falling). 19:44 chris_n @wunder 28334 19:39 wizzyrea just about perfect. 19:39 munin wizzyrea: The current temperature in Channel 6 Downtown, Lawrence, Kansas is 24.4�C (2:46 PM CDT on September 28, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 49%. Dew Point: 13.0�C. Pressure: 29.82 in 1009.7 hPa (Falling). 19:39 wizzyrea @wunder lawrence ks 19:33 jcamins _Another_ tornado watch? 19:33 munin jcamins: The current temperature in Astoria, Astoria, New York is 23.2�C (3:35 PM EDT on September 28, 2010). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 91%. Dew Point: 22.0�C. Pressure: 29.67 in 1004.6 hPa (Steady). Tornado Watch 686 in effect until 6 PM EDT this evening... 19:32 jcamins @wunder 11105 19:32 * cait is envious 19:32 brendan wow another record breaking "indian-summer" day here - no sleep for me tonight 19:32 munin brendan: The current temperature in Northwest Goleta, Goleta, California is 29.9�C (12:36 PM PDT on September 28, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 42%. Dew Point: 16.0�C. Pressure: 29.80 in 1009.0 hPa (Steady). 19:32 brendan @wunder 93117 19:29 munin cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 9.8�C (9:36 PM CEST on September 28, 2010). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 83%. Dew Point: 7.0�C. Windchill: 10.0�C. Pressure: 30.12 in 1019.9 hPa (Steady). 19:29 cait @wunder Konstanz 19:02 chris Bbiab 19:02 chris Ok my stop 18:56 chris The others are all covered by the new sysprefs code and are translatable 18:55 chris If it just does the local use ones it would make more sense 18:54 jcamins Perhaps I will try to eliminate the redundant include. 18:53 chris Heh 18:52 jcamins I just looked at the offending code. 18:52 jcamins Huh. 18:45 chris Sweet 18:44 jcamins I will send it to you as soon as I write the patch. :) 18:44 jcamins Okay. Thanks. 18:43 chris If you email it to me, I will 18:42 jcamins By the way, who wants to sign off on the patch I'm going to write to fix the link between the Local Use and Cataloging tabs in sysprefs? 18:42 jcamins Hello. 18:41 rhcl afternoon 18:38 chris_n g'morning chris 18:38 chris Morning 18:26 rhcl hi cait 18:26 cait hi #koha 18:12 wizzyrea it's easy to read. 18:12 wizzyrea can I say I really appreciate whoever wrote the batchMod.pl 17:44 reva believe it or not, even before I got into the bowels of this, mark twain was the choice for me; I did not know then that he was a staid search authority search for developers. And without any exposure, another author I always input tested was Thomas Mann. 17:42 jcamins That's the only example that comes to mind. 17:42 reva ok, I will look under the fail-proof Clemens, Samuel Longhorn.:) 17:42 jcamins And Samuel Clemens? 17:42 jcamins Maybe search for Mark Twain? 17:41 jcamins Not really, no. 17:38 reva well what kf just wrote about clicking the links in OPAC and bringing up other works by the same author already worked for me. But I am not sure what turning on the AuthDisplayHierarchy did. Could you point me to a couple of good records in LC for testing the "see also" and "see from"? 17:33 reva jcamins: ok, :) here it goes. 17:32 jcamins The worst thing that will happen is that things will stop working, and then you can just disable it again. 17:32 jcamins Maybe. Why don't you try it? 17:30 reva ok, I will search authorities in sys pref. But as far as I can see, the only option among the four in that module that might do this is: AuthDisplayHierarchy. Could it be the one? (It is currently off in my settings.) 17:29 kf bye all! 17:29 kf I have to go now, quite late here 17:29 kf and a click on an author in the opac will find all titles - if there is an authority behind it 17:28 kf search for authorities 17:28 kf I dont know the right sys pref name 17:28 kf there it shows the see also forms, I don't think showing them in the catalog directly is very user friendly 17:28 reva how do I activitate Authorites in OPAC? from where in the admin module? 17:27 kf reva: you can activate authority search for opac too 17:26 reva yes, for me to; but the other functionality of an authority is to lead the CATALOG user to other forms of the name, etc. Anyhow, about the other issue I just mentioned: 100, 710 entries squishing is for the very LCCN record: 95169646. You can import into your database and see for yourself 17:25 jcamins (to link) 17:24 jcamins Oh, they show up when I'm searching for an authority. 17:24 jcamins I don't think I have any authority records with See references. 17:24 reva jcamins: do the "see also "see from" references show for you in staff side? 17:23 jcamins It'd be a very nice feature. 17:23 reva jcamins: another thing I noticed: I have a 100 (Main entry-personal name) and a 710 (Added entry-corporate name), I have the proper MARC/ISBD paragraph punctuation: Taylor, B.N. But in the OPAC display it squished the semantic elements together from the 100 and 710 fields. 17:22 jcamins I don't think you can. 17:22 jcamins reva: I have no idea how to get See Also references to show in the OPAC. 17:16 reva jcamins: would you ask (if you do not know it) about this?: In a set of search results, how do I set it so it shows "see also" references? 17:11 reva Yes, I will file it as suggestion then in the bug site, if there is no mention of it yet. 17:11 jcamins I would suggest filing a bug report, if one hasn't already been filed. 17:10 jcamins reva: perhaps so, yes. 17:10 reva Hi jcamins: maybe it is buggy? Because it is normal to show it at the head of the record even in Normal View. 17:08 jcamins reva: it does not seem to show, no. 17:07 reva Good afternoon y'all. I have a question regarding 245c in Koha 3.2. On the OPAC, does it show Title / Statement of Responsibility ? Because in my 3.0.6, 245c is set to show; but is showing only when I do the Card view (OPAC) and ISBD view (Staff side). The customary practice seems to be to have it show in the normal view also(Look at LCCN : 95169646 ) 16:55 wizzyrea hmm 16:51 jcamins :( 16:51 wizzyrea that doesn't work 16:51 wizzyrea alas 16:50 wizzyrea no, I just need to change not for loan to loanable 16:49 jcamins Let's hope it's not the field you need to change. 16:49 wizzyrea mmm 16:49 jcamins I think the batch edit doesn't work for one of the item fields, unfortunately. 16:48 wizzyrea karma for you if that works 16:48 wizzyrea OOOO 16:48 jcamins :) 16:48 jcamins wizzyrea: yes, created an authorized value, and make one of the options 0. 16:47 wizzyrea or change it to <null> 16:47 wizzyrea ? 16:47 wizzyrea no facility in batch item edit to unset a status like "not for loan" 16:31 jcamins Oh, I guess I could export them all, change them, and reimport. 16:30 jcamins Is there any way to change the 003 field in all the records in my catalog at once? 16:29 jcamins And it'd be really nice if we supported subfield authorities. 16:27 jcamins (subfield 'e' for personal names, for example) 16:26 jcamins The problem I have is that the authority record contains fields that authority records shouldn't contain. 16:26 jcamins Right. 16:26 kf jcamins: or better a lot of authorities linked by $9 to the records 16:25 kf jcamins: we have a lot of linked authorites 16:16 chris_n note the operative term here is "independent" 16:15 chris_n "It was created in the belief that the culture born of an independent Foundation brings out the best in contributors and will deliver the best software for users." 16:14 * chris_n lowers his opinion of a foundation one more notch 16:13 * wizzyrea wondered it too 16:13 * chris_n wonders if he is hearing an echo or a prophecy here 16:11 jcamins chris_n: http://www.libreoffice.org/ 16:11 wizzyrea http://www.zdnet.com/blog/open-source/openofficeorg-forsakes-oracle-forms-new-foundation-and-fork/7445 16:11 chris_n pretty and fast is nearly as nice as pretty and good :) 16:10 wizzyrea and faster 16:10 chris_n libreoffice...?? 16:10 wizzyrea it's purtier 16:10 wizzyrea ooh, they've already made some nice changes to the libreoffice interface 16:05 OpenUser Thanks Owen.... 16:03 jcamins Hey, when y'all are reminding me to write a patch for the sysprefs, remind me to investigate the authorities linking. 16:03 owen And the results screen shows mostly biblio-level information 16:02 owen Collection code is generally considered to be an item-level piece of information 16:01 owen OpenUser: No 15:54 OpenUser Anyway.....last one for the day! Any easy way to get the collection code on the OPAC results screen? 15:51 OpenUser Still struggling.......if I check the item out then back in again it updates something* and the two screens (results and details) now match. Weird! 15:49 rhcl Played with it once, seemed a little slow. I though it was GPL'd, but the current license isn't immediately apparent to me from IBMs web site. 15:49 rhcl Of course, there is also IBM's Lotus Symphony. http://symphony.lotus.com/software/lotus/symphony/home.nsf/home 15:47 rhcl_away Wild 15:47 rhcl_away Dangerous 15:47 rhcl_away Tough 15:47 rhcl_away Mean 15:47 rhcl_away Strong imagery. 15:46 owen Tiger? 15:46 rhcl_away KohaLibre and LibreKoha are both hard to pronounce. I like Tiger Koha much better. 15:45 wizzyrea icon's the same >.> 15:45 wizzyrea i'm about to install LO 15:44 rhcl_away I'd be interested in a diff of the two codebases (OOo vs LO) 15:40 owen A: The OpenOffice.org trademark is owned by Oracle Corporation. Our hope is that Oracle will donate this to to the Foundation, along with the other assets it holds in trust for the Community 15:40 owen Q: And why are you calling the software "LibreOffice" instead of "OpenOffice.org"? 15:35 rhcl_away http://www.documentfoundation.org/faq/ <-- very interesting. I wasn't aware of these recent organizational developments. I've just finished installing OxygenOffice everywhere. 15:32 kf looking for a picture to show how many people are involved 15:32 kf has someone a link to the git stats for 3.2? I think chris did something like that 15:17 wizzyrea though KohaLibre reminds me uncomfortably of a chubby man in a leotard. 15:17 wizzyrea and LibreKoha has kind of a nice ring to it ;) 15:16 wizzyrea owen: I thought it was instructive 15:16 wizzyrea a lot of the rest are "not for loan" 15:02 owen Thanks for that OpenOffice link wizzyrea. It's a hard lesson, realizing you can't be beholden to any company even if their intentions seem to be good 15:01 OpenUser So, I updated the Purchased Date, ran the sync script, rebuild the zebra index and the problem remains...... 15:00 jcamins Welcome back, logbot. 14:56 wizzyrea A: LibreOffice is The Document Foundation's reason for existence. We do not have and will not have a commercial product which receives preferential treatment. We only have one focus - delivering the best free office suite for our users - LibreOffice. 14:56 wizzyrea I love this 14:55 jcamins But they own both. 14:55 jcamins I was referring to the fact that their official website is .com. 14:55 wizzyrea sup? 14:55 wizzyrea kf: now I am 14:55 wizzyrea http://www.documentfoundation.org/faq/ 14:55 wizzyrea the document foundation 14:55 jcamins Who owns libreoffice.org? 14:52 owen What eerily familiar story: http://www.zdnet.com/blog/open-source/openofficeorg-forsakes-oracle-forms-new-foundation-and-fork/7445 14:46 OpenUser Actually, forget that last line! 14:46 OpenUser But thought Marc editor in the Staff? 14:46 sekjal your cron will take care of it 14:46 sekjal if you do it through the staff client, no 14:46 sekjal if you make the change with SQL, you'll need to sync 14:45 OpenUser OK..... I shall try it with this one bib....do I need to run anything other that Zebra when I make the change? 14:45 sekjal it's the only thing I can think of right now 14:44 sekjal OpenUser: perhaps 14:44 OpenUser What I mean is, if I update this BIB to a purchased date in the past, do you think this will solve the problem!? 14:44 OpenUser OK....this DB was migrated from another system, so I can't guarentee the source. However, and this might sound silly, but does Koha look in that much detail when, i.e the MARC data tag of Purchased Date, before allowing circ rules etc...... 14:43 sekjal that doesn't make any sense, at least when thinking like a machine 14:43 sekjal so, your MARC record is showing the item was acquired in September, but was loaned in June and due in July 14:42 sekjal the Date Acquired value (952$d) is 2010-09-07 14:42 OpenUser How's that? 14:41 sekjal your system may think you lent the item before you every actually had it 14:41 kf sorry :( 14:41 OpenUser LOL 14:41 * kf hides 14:41 kf oh, that was number 8 14:41 sekjal okay, well, there is a logical inconsistency in your item data: your date acquired is after the onloan date. 14:41 kf is available for me 14:41 kf an outline of european architecture? 14:39 OpenUser Search for "Architecture" then look at item 9 14:39 OpenUser http://80.93.23.59 14:38 sekjal link to OPAC? 14:38 OpenUser OK, it's set to ON for XSLTResultsDisplay 14:38 OpenUser Doesn't exist, 3.06? 14:38 sekjal if not, then yes, I mean XSLTResultsDisplay 14:37 sekjal though, that patch may not be in 3.0.6... 14:37 sekjal OpenUser, ah, I mean OPACXSLTResultsDisplay 14:37 kf wizzyrea: around? 14:37 OpenUser in OPAC 14:37 OpenUser Do you mean: XSLTResultsDisplay 14:37 OpenUser It's set to ON 14:36 sekjal what's your OPACResultsXSLT system preference set to? 14:35 OpenUser Imean the OPAC 14:35 OpenUser You can view it, if that helps!? 14:35 sekjal I'm really not sure what could be up with this. 14:34 sekjal and everything else updates normally... so it's not a Zebra issue 14:34 sekjal okay, so it's not a sync issue 14:34 OpenUser yes, exactly. 14:34 kf not sure it will work for others like for us, so I would really like it if you could look and make suggestions 14:34 sekjal OpenUser: and that's the same as your items.onloan value, I take it? 14:33 OpenUser <subfield code="q">2010-07-06</subfield> 14:33 jcamins kf++ 14:33 kf sekjal, jcamins: I have a branch with a lot of xslt work on $w links in records - I will try to get it in the public on the weekend 14:33 sekjal OpenUser: what is the actual value for that specific item? 14:33 sekjal OpenUser: that's the correct mapping. 14:32 OpenUser So it that good or bad? 14:32 jcamins :) 14:32 kf jcamins: you want to have some fun? :) 14:32 sekjal yes 14:32 jcamins Someone remind me to write a patch tonight. 14:32 OpenUser OK.....biblioitems.marcxml 952 $q = items.onloan 14:32 jcamins Should be "Cataloguing." 14:31 jcamins Typo. 14:31 jcamins Ah. 14:31 jcamins The error is only when I go from Local Use to Cataloging. 14:31 jcamins Okay, weird. 14:29 OpenUser one sec 14:29 OpenUser yeah, just twigged that's what you meant now, once sec 14:29 sekjal I mean the biblioitem table, viewing the raw MARCXML 14:28 kf biblioitems.marc_xml 14:28 jcamins Hm. The "Cataloging" tab is giving me an error. 14:28 OpenUser or do you mean the biblioitem table? 14:28 OpenUser Sorry, I am a little confused. The bib for this record doesn't have a 952 tag. The item information (Bib>Edit>Item) shows the checked out date the same as the onloan date. Which is the last time it was checked out, but it has been checked back in since! 14:26 sekjal so the date in the 952$q is the same as the date in items.onloan? 14:24 OpenUser " biblioitem.marcxml's 952 field for that item".....can you help me out here? If I edit the same item the checked out date is the same as items.onloan and the type is LOANABLE 14:22 OpenUser items.onloan says it was onload back in June....... 14:21 jcamins I'm printing them letterpress, so it'll take a while. 14:21 jcamins No, but we planned them. 14:20 kf all cards printed? 14:20 kf hi jcamins 14:20 jcamins Morning, #koha 14:18 OpenUser one minute.....I'll check 14:18 sekjal what does your items.onloan value say for the item in question, and is it the same as the biblioitem.marcxml's 952 field for that item? 14:18 kf koha someties uses the xml for display and sometimes the items table information 14:17 kf I think if the items tabel adn the marc_xml part differ, you can see such things 14:17 OpenUser would you expect to see this problem if I did update the items table and didn't run the script? 14:16 kf we have used the sync script too a couple of times and it worked without problems 14:16 kf ok, so this does not really explain your problem than 14:15 OpenUser now that you mention it, yeah. Couple weeks ago I updated the homebranch as it's a Single Branch site and there was NULL values there. I ran the mainteaince script after though.... 14:13 kf1 OpenUser: did you change something in your items table, using sql? 14:12 OpenUser even a complete rebuild of the indexes didn't solve the problem..... 13:54 OpenUser It's a little strange, isn't it? 13:54 sekjal well, then it doesn't seem to be a zebra issue, which is the most common explanation for such behavior 13:54 sekjal huh 13:53 OpenUser Yes. 13:53 sekjal in opac-search.pl? 13:52 OpenUser yeah, in fact, it would update itself sooner that the 2 minutes 13:51 sekjal do other changes reflect themselves? If you added a title, say, and waited two minutes, would you be able to retrieve it with search? 13:49 OpenUser yep: ps -ef > /usr/bin/zebrasrv -v none,fatal,warn -f /etc/koha/koha-conf.xml 13:48 sekjal and the zebrasrv process is running? 13:47 OpenUser yep, every 2 mins 13:47 sekjal OpenUser: is you Zebra cronjob running, and if so, how often? 13:46 OpenUser Any ideas where to start? 13:46 OpenUser Afternoon....My Koha 3.06 has a problem with the Availability showing differently on the opac-search.pl compared to the opac-detail screen. The former showing an item checked out, the latter as checked in. It should be Checked In. 13:19 chris_n wb pastebot 13:15 chris_n HA! 13:15 owen I seem to have. Similarly, I record everything everyone says for later reference. 13:14 * chris_n wonders if owen has taken up logbot's habits 13:12 munin New commit(s) kohagit: Merge remote branch 'koha-fbc/k_bug_5183' into to-push <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=1c9a4a3e488131fd12c6dbcc12bfa881e94b208f> / Merge remote branch 'koha-fbc/k_bug_5182' into to-push <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=1c2de68c35bc7291a0cad63c6981cd3f602c138e> / Bug 5183 Incorrect hash dereferencing syntax causes an error to be thrown when attemp... <http://git 13:10 owen Okay that one was just crappy internet 13:05 * owen_ has words for the guy who put a "sleep" button so close to the ESC key on his keyboard 13:03 mib_sq7uz anyone know how to stop the Collection description being truncated in the Item Details page? E.g collection "Printable Collection A". Displays as "Printable C" 12:56 kf hm perhaps graphics magick 12:55 chris_n maybe a file permission problem 12:55 kf I am checking the logs now 12:55 chris_n I cannot account for the 500 error 12:55 kf chris_n: no pdf creation here - so perhaps a different problem :( 12:54 chris_n an extra slash in there after 'labels', but you get the idea 12:54 chris_n opps 12:54 chris_n specifically it is: Not a HASH reference at /home/cnighswonger/Repositories/koha.3.2.labels\/patroncards/create-pdf.pl line 144. 12:53 chris_n the error is inside the corrupted pdf 12:53 kf ok 12:53 chris_n this is fixed by the patches I refer to above 12:52 chris_n I'm not sure what's wrong there; when I export a patron card batch using that template on HEAD, perl throws a hash ref related error 12:51 kf the browser tab shows busy, but I get no result until our proxy timeout 12:51 kf can't create it now, after I click on the pdf icon... nothing happens 12:50 kf hm 12:50 kf ok 12:49 chris_n yes, but open the pdf with a text editor such as vim 12:49 kf I have not saved the file, let me redo it 12:48 kf there the pdf can't be opened 12:48 kf my other install had the samples fiels not installed, so I added them manually 12:48 kf no, that's what happens in my dev install 12:48 chris_n and that is what is inside of the corrupted pdf? 12:48 chris_n I've not seen that one 12:47 chris_n hmm 12:47 kf the koha error message 12:47 chris_n http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=wip/koha-fbc.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/k_bug_5183 12:47 kf An Error has Occurred! Error 500 12:47 chris_n http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=wip/koha-fbc.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/k_bug_5182 12:47 chris_n most likely you need the following two patches 12:47 kf I am testing on my dev install now, I have a batch of patrons, HB-PC0001 and Test Layout, starting with 1 12:47 chris_n kf: open the pdf with a text editor and tell me the error indicated there 12:46 kf but I always get an error or a pdf file I can't open :( 12:45 kf chris_n: I was trying to create patron cards from the module, using the sample template and layout 12:45 chris_n np, still here 12:44 kf chris_n: ah sorry 12:30 chris_n heya kf 12:29 owen It says a lot about PTFS's actual willingness to play nice with the community that Koha.org still promotes Harley as Koha. 12:22 kf chris_n: around? 11:56 mib_sq7uz just noticed that when adding multiple tags with the same subtag, e.g 650 $a, that Koha doesn't repeat the 650 tag, instead adds it to the existing one. This is a bug.....has anyone else noticed it, not in the bugs database# 11:32 kf Error -1? 10:26 mib_sq7uz I realise you guys are doing enough work building the app so I don';t mean to sound ungreatful 10:26 mib_sq7uz Sorry....got caught up on something there.......slef: That is what I was hoping for, a document base which might reference that sort of thing. 10:07 slef for the input to the xslt 10:07 slef I think mib_sq7uz is hoping for an schema or something which would allow its definition. 10:06 magnus mib_sq7uz: http://perldoc.koha-community.org/ might help 10:00 kf not sure what you are searching for 10:00 kf mib_sq7uz: you are looking at an xslt variable, it is defined somewhere in the xslt stylesheet 09:56 slef mib_sq7uz: seriously: grep -rn available_items catalogue # or whatever bit of koha is using that. 09:55 mib_sq7uz slef: :-) 09:54 slef mib_sq7uz: read the code? 09:54 slef chris: the co-op is very much the hardware supplier of last resort. Other suppliers were only willing to provide Windows black box systems. 09:53 mib_sq7uz how can I get to the place that defines the $available_items etc? 09:52 mib_sq7uz e.g. <xsl:for-each select="$available_items[generate-id() = generate-id(key('item-by-status-and-branch', concat(items:status, ' ', items:homebranch))[1])]"> 09:51 mib_sq7uz I am trying to figure out how Koha all hangs together.....it's difficult......does anyone know if I can get to the raw data before the stylesheet is applied? 09:47 magnus ditto 09:45 chris i hate hardware 09:39 slef At least software.coop has the decency to support our own fork until it is merged back into mainline... which I really need to progress on, once this bloody hardware stops messing me about. 09:39 slef one day I will catch up with the list, but I got tired of posting variations on "what does it say on your about page?" 09:38 magnus yeah, saw that... 09:38 chris another harley question on the list 09:36 magnus ouch? 09:31 chris *sigh* 07:51 magnus hiya ivanc 07:51 ivanc hi magnus 07:48 magnus guten morgen kf & #koha 07:47 kf morning magnus 07:41 kf hi ivanc 07:41 ivanc hi kf 07:40 kf hi #koha 07:17 ivanc good morning #koha 06:42 cait ok, work time -bbl! 06:42 cait :) 06:41 cait almost finished now 06:40 cait I got up at 6 am today to finish my record control number links ;) 06:40 cait hi chris 06:34 chris awesome, i was trying to keep up with reading emails and i still have 164 new ones to read 06:16 cait xslt++ 06:15 munin cait: Karma for "xslt" has been increased 2 times and decreased 4 times for a total karma of -2. 06:15 cait @karma xslt 04:15 wasabi brendan_l: my friend started working on hobbit furniture stuff this week... 04:08 cait hi brendan 04:07 brendan_l heya cait 04:07 cait good morning #koha 03:19 brendan_l hey amit 02:51 darling maybe 02:51 darling heh 02:51 brendan_l so is "The Hobbit" ever going to start filming? 02:51 darling like every other day for TCL-NZ peeps? 02:47 wasabi a bouncy net day for TCL-NZ users... 01:00 chris_n feel like a yoyo yet logbot? 00:27 * brendan_l will look for the email - when I'm back 00:27 darling g'nite 00:26 brendan_l time to enjoy the sun for a bit 00:26 darling hehe 00:26 darling i guess they do have to swap those out from time to time -- always think of it as one plane 00:26 brendan_l but besides that we didn't like all the other stuff 00:26 darling nice 00:25 brendan_l we just recently went to his presidential library nearby - cooliest thing was the had an old air-force one airplane there 00:25 darling I'll drop you a note and you can decide what makes sense. 00:24 darling do you think Nicole would be available also? 00:24 darling ok, cool - is 1:30pm here right now 00:24 brendan_l agreed 00:24 darling she's never liked Reagan but I'm with her on that 00:24 brendan_l it's 5:30 pm 00:23 brendan_l maybe we are only fours hours now 00:23 darling night before last 00:23 brendan_l ah how recent was that? 00:23 darling my wife blames Reagan 00:23 darling hate that 00:23 darling and we just had a time change here 00:22 darling right 00:22 brendan_l I am about 5hours ahead of NZ on the clock but 19 hours behind by date 00:22 darling so -- you're in western US? 00:22 brendan_l brendan@bywatersolutions.com 00:22 brendan_l cool 00:21 darling I'll send you mail to explain 00:21 darling we're wanting to probably get a phone call together tomorrow if possible 00:21 darling brendan_l, i guess there's worse things than skype 00:20 brendan_l bywater just has a 1800 number that we forward to cell phones 00:19 brendan_l darling we don't have voip - we do use skype ;) 00:19 wasabi darling: does skype count? :) 00:19 munin brendan_l: The current temperature in Northwest Goleta, Goleta, California is 33.9�C (5:23 PM PDT on September 27, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 26%. Dew Point: 12.0�C. Pressure: 29.70 in 1005.6 hPa (Falling). 00:19 brendan_l @wunder 93117 00:18 brendan_l at the moment we don't 00:01 darling brendan_l, does bywater have a voip phone system by any chance? 00:00 darling thanjks 00:00 darling ah 00:00 chris_n darling: looks like he's brendan_l atm