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heya chris |
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heya Amit |
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heya amit |
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heya brendan_l |
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god morning all |
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s/god/good |
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hi kmkale |
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hi chris |
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kmkale |
how are you? |
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Amit |
heya kmkale |
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Hi Amit |
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hb |
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Could any one point me to a good set of download and install instructions? |
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kmkale |
Hi cait |
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hi kmkale :) |
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hi kf and magnus |
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magnus |
g'day chris |
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magnus |
or is that more of an australian salutation? |
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hi chris |
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chris |
you can use it here, but yeah its much more australian |
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magnus |
ta |
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kf |
magnus: training for nz? :) |
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magnus |
yeah, it's just 1 month until we touch down in auckland! |
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darling |
listening to http://www.radionz.co.nz/ will help |
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darling |
they talk pretty funny here |
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chris |
heh |
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hmm |
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chris |
magnus: have you listened to trinity roots? |
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chris |
http://www.wotzon.com/eventlis[…]?event_id=5026963 |
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magnus |
i think i just found one track on spotify... reagge isn't really my cup of tea, though... |
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just as well its not reggae then hehe ;) |
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chris |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SblTKIZoInI is one of my faves |
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magnus |
re-listening to that track now, guess not... |
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they are one of the best bands i have ever seen live, because they love what they do |
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magnus |
good starting point! ;-) |
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chris |
thats the town hall, in that video, thats where the conference is .. but we are upstairs |
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magnus |
cool |
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hello |
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hi |
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magnus |
hi KohaHelp |
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Hi Koha Help, magnus |
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hi Amit |
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Nate |
Hello #koha! |
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jwagner |
Hi Nate |
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Nate |
morning jwagner! |
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magnus |
good morning usa'ians! |
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owen |
Hi folks |
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kf |
hi owen and jwagner |
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Hi kf |
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* owen |
wonders if rotating collections are really going to get yanked from 3.2 as previously promised |
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kf |
owen: why should they get yanked? bad bug? |
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owen |
gmcharlt said quite a while ago they would be removed because the feature was too buggy |
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owen |
I had started to work on fixing up the templates for it but stopped based on that information. |
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kf |
oh |
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kf |
good to know - preparing a presentation for next week about 3.2 now |
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kf |
better not include this one in the feature list :) |
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owen |
At this point I'm starting to worry. |
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kf |
worry? |
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owen |
I just don't want to see a buggy feature in 3.2. |
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kf |
ok, this sounds not nice, but I don't think rotating collections is our main problem |
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kf |
there are worse |
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kf |
regressions |
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kf |
like singlebranchmode not working :( |
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kf |
or some acq bugs |
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kf |
but I think we must get 3.2 out, and fix some things later |
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schuster |
owen worry about what? |
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owen |
I worry that rotating collections won't get pulled from 3.2 and we'll be releasing a buggy new feature |
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schuster |
ah. |
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schuster |
Has there been any more discussion about a timeline for 3.2? Seems every time I ask we are 2 weeks out or when this or that gets fixed. What's holding it up? |
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* owen |
doesn't know |
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schuster |
not to be snooty, just curious. |
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* Braedon |
's two cents - fix later is bad. When i was deploying 3.0.6 over the summer there were a few really blatantly broken things that IMO should just not have been there. It can give a really bad impression. You can add a feature later. It is much harder to remove a bad impression from a broken feature |
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* owen |
agrees |
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schuster |
++ |
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kf |
I agree too |
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kf |
but those problems are in bugzilla - most of them over my head and we don't know what will make it into 3.2 |
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* magnus |
agrees |
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kf |
and for some of them there are no patches at all yet |
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kf |
I asked gmcharlt about the timeline some days ago, he told me he would look at Colin's patch for the acq blocker |
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kf |
not sure what the result was |
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jwagner |
The code freeze for 3.2 was the first week of September, a year ago.... |
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kf |
yep |
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kf |
and work already started for 3.4 |
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gmcharlt |
patch tests out OK, so it'll go ing, rotathign collections will go out, and 3.2 will go out as well |
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* kf |
jumps |
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magnus |
last time i asked chris, he thought the main blocker was bug 4310 |
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munin |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4310 blocker, PATCH-Sent, ---, henridamien, NEW, No Migration for budgets from 3.0 to 3.2 |
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gmcharlt |
but as thus far I've been up for 28 hours straight with no end in sight, not today |
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magnus |
ouch |
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* kf |
hands gmcharlt some hot chocolate |
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Braedon |
gmcharlt was standing right behind kf all along... |
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* jwagner |
hands gmcharlt some concentrated caffeine... |
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owen |
:D |
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* Braedon |
hands gmcharlt a defibrillator |
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kf |
Braedon: feels like that :) |
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schuster |
Sorry about that and hope you have a chance for sleep in the VERY near future. |
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* Braedon |
is off to bed (sorry to rub it in gmcharlt) |
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Braedon |
adiós #koha |
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schuster |
Didn't mean to ruffle feathers, just asking a question. |
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kf |
me too |
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schuster |
Wonders if there would be a way for the community to see/track things that the RM is seeing as a problem so the community could step up and help. More of a list of things that need addressing. |
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kf |
not wanting to ruffle feathers |
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Braedon |
schuster: wouldn't that be the blocker's list? |
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schuster |
I know we have bugzilla, but there are LOTS of bugs there, but from my understanding only blockers hold up a release. |
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kf |
schuster: we have bugzilla... |
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kf |
schuster: I think a lot of annoying things ar not blockers, blockers are for loss of data |
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* Braedon |
marvels at schuster's preemption skills |
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* Braedon |
is on his way to bed, honest |
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kf |
Braedon: sleep well |
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Braedon |
kf: thanks |
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schuster |
Sleep... oh wishes he could go back to bed after being up only 2 hours. |
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owen |
kf: There are certainly non-blocker bugs that are blockers to *me* |
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Braedon |
good luck gmcharlt, try to sleep soon |
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gmcharlt |
thanks |
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kf |
owen: yep, but some bugs can not be addressed by the reporters and perhaps get kind of lost in bugzilla |
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kf |
so schuster is not wrong here, there are a lot of blockers - I really appreciate your looking at old bugs owen |
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schuster |
ok I'm going to stop so gmcharlt won't fret over my questions. |
| 13:14 |
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gmcharlt |
schuster: it's a free channel |
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schuster |
I just know that people are probably anticipating 3.2 release some are actually using it live - so what's holding up a full release? |
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schuster |
If the community could understand that maybe we could help. |
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schuster |
Just food for thought for the next release managers... A wiki page or something that could list things the RM is concerned about or working on... |
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owen |
schuster: It's fine to say "we could help," but really there are only a select few of us smart enough to tackle the really tough problems. |
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* owen |
is not included |
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* kf |
thinks owen is very smart |
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schuster |
I know I can't "help" but I could possibly throw some money at a programmer for things that are important to me... |
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owen |
kf: I pick and choose my battles :) |
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kf |
oh, a coworker asked me today if we use a plugin to make text boxes grow automatically |
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schuster |
Unfortunately - I have to work through my vendor and can't just ask and pay someone. |
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kf |
do we? I can't think of an example |
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owen |
kf: No |
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kf |
owen: thought so, thank you |
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schuster |
OK off to do other things and will wait calmly for the 3.2 release. I hope everyone has a great day. Happy Tuesday in America! |
| 13:20 |
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magnus |
schuster: are you sure throwing money at programmers is considered polite? ;-) |
| 13:21 |
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schuster |
Only if they accept(!:) |
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* owen |
considers it very polite! Bills preferred, naturally |
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schuster |
Large monetary bills or some I think work for chocolate or cookies actually. |
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magnus |
owen: of course, i was thinking coins... |
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* owen |
wouldn't want to accept payment in rolls of quarters that way |
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schuster |
Throwing rolls of coins would be rude... Had a library system friend once that wanted the auto hand installed on the monitors so when the library staff did something stupid it would reach out and slap thme. |
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schuster |
That's why I sit way back from my monitor. |
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* owen |
wonders if tag clouds aren't old-fashioned now |
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schuster |
hmmm... kinda like RSS. |
| 13:38 |
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owen |
:P |
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* magnus |
gives the whole interwebs malarkey another year before people start loosing interest |
| 13:42 |
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owen |
yeah, we should go back to developing Koha as a telnet-based system. |
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magnus |
hehe |
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jwagner |
punch cards! That's the wave of the future!!! |
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* jwagner |
remembers working with a punch card system. Is I old??? |
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magnus |
the librarian interface for bibsys, the main system for norwegian academic libraries, is actually telnet-like... |
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imp |
magnus: cli interfaces are nice :) |
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imp |
(at least sometimes ;) |
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magnus |
imp: yeah, the lurning curve is steep, but once you know your way around you can work really fast |
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schuster |
Ah yes the old Dynix Classic... What a dream system... except people hated the dot commands... except me! |
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jwagner |
My first ILS system was one written by Georgetown University for medical libraries. Written in MUMPS, running on a PDP 11/84. Now that had some interesting command line experiences.... |
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* magnus |
thought mumps was some kind of disease or something... |
| 14:21 |
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schuster |
I hear ruby on rails and wonders how much that costs! |
| 14:21 |
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tcohen |
hi, does anyone remember *where* does zebra control word truncation? |
| 14:22 |
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tcohen |
I'm having some issues with words ending with Ãa in some installs |
| 14:22 |
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tcohen |
which are found searching for 'metodolog' but not with 'metodologÃa' |
| 14:26 |
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schuster |
I just want to make sure there isn't a way to move a copy of a book from one biblio to another without deleting and readding. |
| 14:26 |
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owen |
You can do that in 3.2 schuster |
| 14:28 |
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schuster |
Thanks smarty pants... owen... |
| 14:28 |
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schuster |
Didn't we just have that discussion? |
| 14:28 |
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schuster |
owen are you in production on 3.2? |
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owen |
No |
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rhcl_away |
jwagner: Ah VistA! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VistA |
| 14:30 |
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owen |
schuster: There are still a couple of bugs that are blockers for us |
| 14:30 |
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rhcl_away |
VistA <- runs on top of MUMPS http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MUMPS |
| 14:30 |
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jwagner |
rhcl_away, no, not VistA -- it was called LIS. Specially tailored for medical libraries |
| 14:31 |
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rhcl_away |
No, I understand, just that your MUMPS reference made me think of VistA |
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rhcl_away |
One of the UG's I dabble in is installing VistA for a free medical clininc in KC |
| 14:31 |
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jwagner |
I think Georgetown stopped developing/supporting LIS about the time we migrated to Unicorn. |
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rhcl_away is now known as rhcl |
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chris_n |
nice catch chris |
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jwagner |
It was a quantum leap in technology when we migrated from LIS on the PDP 11/84 to LIS on a VAX 64 :-) From room-sized minicomputer to a desktop machine. Imagine that!!! |
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chris_n |
VAX... now we're getting back in time |
| 14:34 |
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jwagner |
Sure feels like a long time ago. Oh, wait, it was.... |
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chris_n |
they say time flies when you're having fun :-) |
| 14:40 |
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jwagner |
I've had fun before. That wasn't it.... |
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hdl |
owen: wich ones ? |
| 14:40 |
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owen |
hdl: Which are blockers for us? |
| 14:41 |
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hdl |
yes |
| 14:42 |
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owen |
Bug 4945 is one |
| 14:42 |
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munin |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4945 major, P5, ---, kyle.m.hall, NEW, Patron search is limited by default to the currently logged-in library |
| 14:42 |
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* owen |
is looking for his notes on the others |
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wizzyrea |
oh yea |
| 14:43 |
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wizzyrea |
that's a biggie |
| 14:43 |
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wizzyrea |
for us too |
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wizzyrea |
at the very very least |
| 14:43 |
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wizzyrea |
the selection for branch should not be hidden |
| 14:44 |
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* wizzyrea |
has to go away for a bit |
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* owen |
fails to find any of the emails he's looking for |
| 14:48 |
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chris_n |
which syspref determines the max fine a patron can have before being debarred? |
| 14:49 |
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owen |
Ah, hdl the other bugs I'm watching are Bug 4045 and Bug 4430 |
| 14:49 |
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munin |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4045 critical, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, No check for maximum number of allowed holds. |
| 14:49 |
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munin |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4430 normal, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, Staff Results Display Showing Wrong Numbers |
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* chris_n |
wonders if that sort of limit is even an option currently |
| 14:53 |
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sekjal |
owen: 4045 looks like one you mentioned earlier... special prize for fixing it before 3.2 and all... |
| 14:53 |
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sekjal |
thought it was a much earlier number, though |
| 14:54 |
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* chris_n |
reminds everyone to tag regression bugs with the regression keyword |
| 14:54 |
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hdl |
owen: patch is already in 3.0 for maximum number of allowed hold |
| 14:54 |
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sekjal |
ah, it was bug 2142 |
| 14:54 |
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munin |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=2142 critical, P2, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, maxItemsInSearchResults No longer used |
| 14:54 |
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hdl |
iirc. |
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owen |
2142 I think is the same as 4430 |
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sekjal |
it is |
| 14:55 |
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sekjal |
sorry, got my numbers reversed earlier |
| 14:55 |
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owen |
hdl: But not in 3.2? |
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kf |
chris_n: there are many limits |
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kf |
chris_n: different for renewals, checkout etc. |
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kf |
chris_n: maxoutstanding, noissuecharge, OPACFineNoRenewals |
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kf |
chris_n: it's not setting the debarred flag, but a dynamic thing |
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hdl |
should be #4055 sent from nahuel |
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chris_n |
kf: so the proper combination for denying privileges for patrons with over $5.00 in fines is? |
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kf |
hm |
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kf |
perhaps all of them |
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* chris_n |
grips very briefly about the confusing array of choices |
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kf |
noissuecharge will prevent checkout, maxoutstanding opac login |
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kf |
and you can set opacfinenorenewals just to make sure ;) |
| 15:01 |
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kf |
have not tested the last one, it's new in 3.2 |
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chris_n |
where is noissuecharge located? |
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chris_n |
opacfinerenewals only disallows renewals and not new loans.... |
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chris_n |
seems inconsistent |
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chris_n |
ahh... noissuescharge... found it |
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kf |
chris_n: I searched for fine in the sys pref editor |
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chris_n |
thanks, kf |
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blaker |
hello guys, i've got a couple of patron categories defined respectively as student and teacher. i want to restrict some items to be "teacher check out only". what's the simplest most sensible way to do this? i feel like i'm just missing something somewhere in the patron categories because that sounds like what it was built for |
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wonders what sort of situation would dictate denying renewals, but allowing new loans |
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owen |
too many renewals, a hold on the item |
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kf |
chris_n: not allow renewals, but login into account and no new checkouts |
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chris_n |
owen: these deal with $ |
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owen |
Sorry, watching with just one eye |
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kf |
blaker: its in circulation rules, not on ptron categories |
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kf |
blaker: in the circulation rules you combine borrower categories and item types and set the rules for those combinations, loan period, how many renewals (in 3.2), fine etc. |
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blaker |
kf: thank you very much this is exactly what i was looking for |
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chris_n |
it seems the opacfinenorenewals and noissuescharge could be safely combined |
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jcamins_a |
chris_n: reserve books... even if you have fines that should prevent renewals, you still need to be able to check out in-library reserve books. |
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jcamins |
Good morning. |
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kf |
chris_n: I think a more granular approach is better |
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kf |
chris_n: I would evenl ike to make it more granular, have the ability to make holds separate too |
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kf |
chris_n: and perhaps make it configurable for separate borrower categories and libraries too |
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kf |
chris_n: but I am a bit crazy ;) |
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kf |
bye all |
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chris_n |
kf: holds are handled separately: maxoutstanding |
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chris_n |
opps |
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chris_n |
@later tell ciat holds are handled separately: maxoutstanding |
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munin |
chris_n: The operation succeeded. |
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jwagner |
chris_n, you misspelled cait |
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chris_n |
@later tell cait holds are handled separately: maxoutstanding |
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munin |
chris_n: The operation succeeded. |
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chris_n |
tnx, jwagner |
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owen |
Whenever ciat logs on he/she is going to be confused. |
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visualizes chris_n's message sitting out there in lonely oblivion, waiting for a ciat user.... |
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owen |
I wonder how many other messages munin is waiting in vain to deliver |
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chris_n |
@later list |
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munin |
chris_n: Error: The "Later" plugin is loaded, but there is no command named "list" in it. Try "list Later" to see the commands in the "Later" plugin. |
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wizzyrea |
any SIP users about? |
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rhcl |
I SIP |
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wizzyrea |
do you also 3.2 beta? |
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rhcl |
3.01.00.145 |
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wizzyrea |
aha |
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wizzyrea |
can you test this for me |
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wizzyrea |
put a % on the end of a patron barcode and see if it authenticates (or does yours use opac login?) |
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rhcl |
We have two systems that use it...Userful and our Bluesocket wireless controller. I can test on userful pretty easily...gimme a sec |
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tcohen |
has anyone experienced this behaviour? |
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tcohen |
http://odo.biblio.unc.edu.ar/c[…]ch.pl?q=odontologà |
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tcohen |
http://odo.biblio.unc.edu.ar/c[…]ch.pl?q=odontologÃa |
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tcohen |
? |
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tcohen |
(zero results in the first search vs. lots in the second) |
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tcohen |
(where the matching words ARE th esame as in the second search) |
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rhcl |
wizzyrea: no, with a '%' it will not authenticate (not using opac login--simple SIP query directly to the server) |
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wizzyrea |
k cool I will file a bug |
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wizzyrea |
thank you very much for testing that |
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rhcl |
np |
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owen |
wizzyrea: What's up with these % patron barcodes anyway? |
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wizzyrea |
you know, I asked the same questions |
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wizzyrea |
can you guess the answer? |
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owen |
Librarians are loony? |
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wizzyrea |
"because it's the way we've always done it" |
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wizzyrea |
"and we have boxes and boxes of them" |
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jwagner |
wizzyrea, there's a program item at a project management conference I'm going to entitled "Leading Your Horse to Water AND Getting It to Drink! Handling Stubborn Resistance to Change" |
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jwagner |
I personally just recommend holding their heads under water until they drink :-) |
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wizzyrea |
:) |
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wizzyrea |
!! |
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jwagner |
Tell them if they insist on using special characters that the computer interprets in a specific fashion, they should expect their data to break. |
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wizzyrea |
well |
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wizzyrea |
normally I would agree with that |
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jwagner |
Yeah, I know.... |
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makes note of that, for the next time it might be relevant to her dealings with jwagner: do it her way, or drown. |
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* jwagner |
adds, or drown while being whacked with the baseball bat.... |
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* jwagner |
can be very, er, assertive at times |
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wizzyrea |
I saw those barcodes and I thought "oh yay! new and exciting ways to break things!" |
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wizzyrea |
:) |
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wizzyrea |
I imagine though they'd rather not re-card 20k patrons |
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wizzyrea |
and 100k books |
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jcamins |
_All_ the barcodes have a % sign? |
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owen |
How about programming the scanners to strip the %? :) |
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wizzyrea |
no, not all, but half of them have + signs at the end, another percentage have % |
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rhcl |
all your libraries or just 1? |
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wizzyrea |
well |
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wizzyrea |
this is SIP |
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wizzyrea |
just 1 |
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jcamins |
Why on earth did they do that in the first place? |
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wizzyrea |
in this case, anyway |
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wizzyrea |
lol |
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jcamins |
Oh, field end markers? |
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wizzyrea |
"because it's the way we've always done it" |
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rhcl |
token separator :) |
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jcamins |
Yeah, but at some point they must've started, right? |
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wizzyrea |
right, but those people are looooooong gone |
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wizzyrea |
so now it's just myth |
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wizzyrea |
*nobody knows why... it's mystical* |
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wizzyrea |
oooOOOOoooo |
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sekjal |
if you take the + or % off, is there the possibility of duplicate values? |
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rhcl |
u have a way with words |
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wizzyrea |
I don't htink so |
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sekjal |
::whew:: |
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hdl |
tcohen: it looks like you should try yaz-icu or use a map `ii` i in your .chr file. |
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tcohen |
could you explain me that latter? |
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jcamins |
wizzyrea: the extent to which I can sympathize with your tale is rather disturbing. |
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hdl |
tcohen: I guess you have this because you are i` can be spelled in three different manners in utf8 |
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hdl |
NFC or NFD precomposed or NFD post-composed. |
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hdl |
Therefore, you would have to normalize data. |
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tcohen |
the map should be set in sort-string-utf.chr ? |
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hdl |
word-phrase-utf.chr should be a better guess |
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tcohen |
hdl: do you have a file with that mapping? |
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hdl |
unfortunately no. You could ask koha list for that. |
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hdl |
We are using icu for most of our customers now. |
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tcohen |
is there a place to find info about using yaz-icu? |
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reva |
Good morning all, I am looking at a record for which I deleted the corporate author entry; It is ok in staff Normal and Marc view. But the OPAC MARC view shows the 110 $9 RLIN field. And I cannot delete the 55 showing in the $9 subfield. Any solutions? |
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jcamins |
reva: I think you can click the three dots next to the subfield 'a' do any search and choose "Clear." |
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reva |
jcamins: I will be clearing it from Authorities module, you mean? |
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jcamins |
No. |
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jcamins |
You said you wanted to clear it from the record. |
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jcamins |
Right? You have a record which had a 110, then you went and erased all the subfields, leaving the authority link intact. What you now need to do is go in and unlink that record from the authority. |
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reva |
jcamins: ok, that did it. I understand the logic now. |
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reva |
jcamins: thanks. |
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reva |
jcamins: the link you gave for yesterday for Debian 5.0.6 has a series of links; I run a Intel x86 processor. I picked i386 (or something like that, but I do not know if this is the correct link for my processor). I then went to UTexas mirror, and it had CD1, CD2... in the ftp directory. So which CD#? |
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jcamins |
reva: I don't know anything about installing Debian. |
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jcamins |
I would recommend looking online for a tutorial. |
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jcamins |
reva: http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ |
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jcamins |
See also http://www.debian.org/CD/ |
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jcamins |
And now you know as much about installing Debian as I do. :) |
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reva |
But I have not even downloaded because the choices had a series of CDs and I did not which one to download. And that is a lot of reading to do. :) Are you sure you are not just being modest? Ok, so recommend anyone there with expertise I can ask later so that I can download the correct |
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hdl |
tcohen: There are a few threads about that on koha-devel |
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jcamins |
reva: no, I'm really not being modest. My host takes care of all OS installation. |
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tcohen |
hdl: thanks, i'll try to do some research in the topic |
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jcamins |
Why don't you choose one (I'd guess CD #1), and see what happens? |
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hdl |
tcohen: I think I sent a patch some timeago on that on the koha-devel list |
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tcohen |
hdl: ack |
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reva |
jcamins: Enviable; I am the IT/Library technology/Cataloger here; but did I get it right that I should go for the i386? Because I counted down the number of lines in this page (http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/ Intel x86 is 6th) and went with the 6th counting across the first row (http://www.debian.org/CD/jigdo-cd/). |
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reva |
jcamins: I will download CD1 and see it is big enough to be an OS:) |
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jcamins |
Sure, if you have a PC, i386 should work. |
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reva |
ok, then I will go with that CD1. And I would go with Apache http server. Any version I should target there? |
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jcamins |
Whatever version comes with Debian. |
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reva |
So I am not to download the http server separately as the instructions in the Koha community page (http://koha-community.org/download-koha/) has it? |
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jcamins |
You should install it through Debian. |
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jcamins |
reva: http://bit.ly/appoS3 |
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jcamins |
There are the instructions for installing Koha on Debian. |
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jcamins |
I guess they probably work. :) |
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reva |
jcamins: ok so I would install Debian and then the downloaded Apache, MySQL and Perl gets installed inside that. I will read the instructions and follow. Hope it will work also:). |
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jcamins |
Go for it. |
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jcamins |
Read those instructions first, though. |
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jcamins |
I think if you follow them they might also take care of installing Apache, etc. |
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reva |
jcamins: I will and write back here how it went. Thanks for your encouraging words and help. What is the command here for signing off the chat. Or do you abruptly quit by closing the window? |
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jcamins |
I think maybe it is /QUIT |
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jcamins |
But closing the window should work as well. |
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reva |
Ok, bye for now. |
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reva |
jcamins: hi again, when I set the delete code in the leader for a record, is it still supposed to show up in OPAC? |
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jcamins |
No idea. |
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jcamins |
I'd suggest just deleting the record. |
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reva |
ok, because I had understood that setting it delete in Ldr makes it disappear to the public, but lets the library manage and create report on their collection. Or you can even reinstate a record without having to recreate it. |
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jcamins |
No, that's the OpacSuppress feature. |
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jcamins |
You can look in the manual to learn about that. |
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jcamins |
I don't use it. |
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* owen |
never heard of a delete code before |
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jcamins |
owen: OCLC tape load, I think. |
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reva |
Ok, I will look at the manual now jcamins: Owen: it is one of the Record Status selections. |
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reva |
owen: just like New, Corrected, you can set it to "deleted". |
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ebegin |
Hey! A quick question for you |
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ebegin |
Which is the best field to search based on the language? |
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reva |
jcamins: in my Koha it is set to "Off"; so if I turn it on, what happens exactly? |
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cait |
hi #koha |
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jcamins |
reva: I don't use the feature, so I don't know exactly. |
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jcamins |
I do know that you *must* have a suppressed item, or searches won't work at all. |
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jcamins |
And that you have to reindex. |
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jcamins |
Other than that, I believe when you suppress an item, it won't show up in the OPAC (with that syspref set to on). |
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jcamins |
Hi cait. |
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reva |
ok, I will experiment with it and ask if I have questions. Thanks jcamins: |
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wizzyrea |
chris_n: |
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wizzyrea |
I just found another oops in the label creator |
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chris_n |
wizzyrea |
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chris_n |
ahh |
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wizzyrea |
sorry, I had an autocomplete fail |
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wizzyrea |
:) |
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wizzyrea |
bug 5230 |
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chris_n |
sup? |
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munin |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5230 normal, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, MARC export by call number range results in a zero byte file |
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wizzyrea |
5238 |
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chris_n |
bug 5238 |
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munin |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5238 minor, P5, ---, cnighswonger, NEW, Fatal error when saving printer profile if paper bin field is blank |
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wizzyrea |
bug 5238 |
| 18:26 |
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wizzyrea |
there we go |
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chris_n |
ok, that should be a simple fix |
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chris_n |
I'll add it to Thursday's list |
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wizzyrea |
BUT: I really like the new label creator. |
| 18:27 |
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wizzyrea |
a lot. |
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wizzyrea |
:) |
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chris_n |
wizzyrea: when its done, you can pick it up here: |
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chris_n |
http://git.koha-community.org/[…]a-fbc.git;a=heads |
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wizzyrea |
ooooo! |
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wizzyrea |
thanks! |
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chris_n |
I'll update bugzilla also as well of course |
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wizzyrea |
right |
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chris_n |
I'm now using the one-branch-per-bug method |
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wizzyrea |
me too. owen is a good example >.> |
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cait |
chris_n: got your message - thx :) |
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chris_n |
cait: I'm thinking some sort of configuration matrix, either in Koha itself or at least in the docs would make setting things up much easier |
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chris_n |
ie. if you want effect X, you need to set sysprefs Y and Z |
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cait |
chris_n: yes |
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cait |
I m trying to write something up for my coworkers and a questionnaire for the library - but it's difficult |
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wizzyrea |
chris_n: that's an interesting idea |
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wizzyrea |
also interesting would be if we had "simple" and "advanced" controls |
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wizzyrea |
so, activating simple pref A would activate everything necessary to do X |
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chris_n |
perhaps some "eye candy" for those who don't want to wade through the deeper parts of the pref stuff |
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wizzyrea |
but if you want to do it differently, you still have the nerd knobs |
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chris_n |
exactly |
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wizzyrea |
(and the simple pref gets turned off) |
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* owen |
snickers... nerd knobs. |
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wizzyrea |
^.^ |
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CGI625 |
for some reason, every time i stage a marc record for import and then import that staged record, it says that nearly all of my items were not added because they have a "duplicate barcode" |
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owen |
CGI625: Do your items have barcodes? |
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CGI625 |
of course the barcode 952p marc field has the barcode in it for each record |
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CGI625 |
is there anything else that might cause this, assuming my marc file is ok? |
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jcamins |
CGI625: is it possible that you already imported the file successfully? |
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owen |
CGI625: I asked because Koha might reject an item with no barcode because it "matches" an existing item with no barcode. |
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CGI625 |
yes, i did but i tried truncating the tables biblio, biblioitems, items, etc. and cleaning the imports |
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CGI625 |
perhaps i'm missing a table? |
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CGI625 |
very quick responses in here btw, thanks |
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jcamins |
That would be my guess, although I'm not sure where it would be. |
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* owen |
wonders if record-matching uses zebra? |
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owen |
If so you'd need to re-index |
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jcamins |
It does. |
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jcamins |
Ooh. |
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wizzyrea |
^^ |
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jcamins |
Sneaky. |
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wizzyrea |
then yea, that might be it |
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jcamins |
Wait, it may just be matchpoints that use Zebra. |
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jcamins |
I'm not sure. |
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wizzyrea |
clear out your indexes CGI625, anyway |
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wizzyrea |
since it *might* have something to do with it |
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jcamins |
What an amazing book. |
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jcamins |
It's in a lousy nineteenth century cardboard binding, but there are extensive early (17th century?) marginal annotations *with* hand-drawn illustrations of coins. |
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owen |
chris_n: Got a sec? |
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chris_n |
sure |
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owen |
I'm finally testing the work you did on rfc822 date formatting (thank you thank you) |
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CGI625 |
thanks guys! i got it resolved |
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wizzyrea |
woo hoo! |
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owen |
...but I'm not sure how to use it! |
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chris_n |
ahh |
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owen |
chris_n: format_date() doesn't take a parameter does it? |
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chris_n |
what exactly do you want to end up with... the current time in rfc822 format? or something else? |
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owen |
I need to pass it a specific date |
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wizzyrea |
rhcl: do you have access to your server and/or know how to check for hung SIP connections? |
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* wizzyrea |
vows to have a running sip server this week on 3.2. This is getting out of hand. |
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chris |
my $nice_formatted_date=format_data('2010-09-22'); |
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chris_n |
then you need to create a new date object based on the date you have |
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chris |
thats how i use it |
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chris |
but spelt right |
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chris_n |
and then call the output method on the format you want |
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chris_n |
ie my $nice_formatted_date = $date_object->output('rfc822') |
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owen |
Okay, I think I get it |
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* owen |
tests |
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chris_n |
you can do this sort of one-liner: print C4::Dates->new("21-09-1989", "metric")->output("iso"); |
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nengard |
has anyone tried to delete a currency that was being used? I think I found a bug |
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nengard |
I tried to delete a currency and it confirmed that it was deleted but it wasn't - I then tried another and it deleted fine, so I'm wondering if currencies in use can't be deleted but the message is showing wrong |
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chris |
you could use format_date_in_iso |
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chris_n |
he's formatting in rfc822 rather than iso |
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chris |
yeah, i just saw your output iso bit :) |
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* chris_n |
was guilty of cut-and-paste from the POD on that one ;-) |
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chris |
might be worth making a couple more helper routines |
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chris |
if you look at the format_date ones |
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chris |
its pretty simple |
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chris_n |
I agree it is a bit much to have to type just to get a date back |
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chris_n |
format_date_in_foo might be nice for all of the formats |
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chris |
*nod* |
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chris_n |
bbiab |
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owen |
chris_n++ |
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owen |
I've got a working, valid RSS feed for OPAC comments! |
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wizzyrea |
:O |
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chris_n |
nice |
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wizzyrea |
owen! |
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wizzyrea |
owen++ |
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jcamins |
Now you just need people to comment on records in the OPAC. :D |
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owen |
What better way to encourage people to comment than to offer a way to see what people are saying? |
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crosses his fingers |
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wizzyrea |
hey, I think that having OPAC comments fed through to the library website is a great way to do that |
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jcamins |
Bribes are sometimes effective. |
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wizzyrea |
remember owen, RSS is dead :P |
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jcamins |
Chocolate, for example... |
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wizzyrea |
i like it because at least for me, it would make it super simple to see what all was going on in the catalog |
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owen |
So now I've got to make the OPAC tweet new comments? |
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wizzyrea |
... |
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wizzyrea |
can't you pull rss into a tool that then tweets the entries? |
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wizzyrea |
like a yahoo pipe |
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jcamins |
If Koha could tweet new catalog entries, that would be amazing. |
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* owen |
doesn't like the idea of "killing" RSS in favor of a proprietary platform :( |
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* owen |
imagines the twitterspam when his cataloger bulk loads 500 new records |
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wizzyrea |
well you can do a search that gives a RSS feed of all the new additions |
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wizzyrea |
which you could pull into a pipe -> out to twitter |
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jcamins |
Hm. |
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wizzyrea |
(I haven't tried that, but *in theory* that should work) |
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chris |
or do it to status.net and avoid the proprietaryness |
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wizzyrea |
or that |
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* chris |
goes to catch the bus |
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* jcamins |
doesn't quite get Twitter yet, but he's been told that he should Tweet more to increase his POW's visibility |
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jcamins |
And that would be an excellent way to persuade people not to have jcamins tweet. ;) |
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owen |
chris_n: What's the best way to handle all these separate commits? Right now I'm working with a branch that has cherry-picked commits from yours |
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* jwagner |
refuses to get involved with Twitter -- being forced into Facebook was bad enough |
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reva |
owen: I like the RSS new entries:). But how do I get Koha to assign Record Control Numbers (001) automatically for me? Anyone? |
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reva |
jwagner: you could go to one of the suicide machine sites to get yourself removed from all of these social media sites. I do not think facebook filed any case against the Dutch suicide site. |
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jwagner |
reva, I didn't mean forced in that sense -- just that too many of my personal & professional circle were there. |
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chris |
Gah the hypothermia bus again today |
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reva |
Oh:0 |
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reva |
Any takers for my question on automatic creation of the Record Control Number (010)? |
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jcamins |
I don't think Koha does that. |
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jwagner |
reva, there is no such functionality in Koha. That's usually done by the site creating the record, such as OCLC |
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chris |
owen: new integration branch sounds good to me |
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owen |
Uh... okay... |
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reva |
jcamins: I think you answered me; jwagner, I realized we are not on the world stage yet :), but wanted to prepare them for the day when we have the regional information network and they would be sharing their bib records in the WAIS there. |
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wizzyrea |
reva: either way, I think your answer is that "koha doesn't do that" |
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chris |
owen: ie keep doing what you are doing |
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reva |
ok wizzyrea:) anyone know, when copy cataloging is it customary to remove the RCN from 001 (my "students" already know to remove and replace Org code from 003)? |
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chris_n |
owen: I usually create a new branch off of master and cherry-pick all related commits to it |
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chris_n |
then do patches/pull requests from there |
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chris_n |
that way they are easy to keep in sync with HEAD while they await inclusion |
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owen |
chris_n: So I should submit one patch which incorporates your changes and mine? |
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chris |
I would do a pull request |
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chris_n |
^^what he said |
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chris |
Leaving the patches sep has advantages |
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owen |
...but all of this is on my local machine |
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chris_n |
that will preserve things |
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chris |
Ahh make a gitorious account and push :) |
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chris |
You get a free backup as side effect |
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chris |
Or we can make one at koha-community for you |
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jcamins |
Is gitorious preferred to github? |
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owen |
I knew I couldn't put it off any longer :) |
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chris |
To me it is |
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chris |
Jcamins its agpl3 |
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chris |
so free software |
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jcamins |
Ah. Well, I think for the moment I'll stick with github because that's what I have configured. |
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jcamins |
And my code is equally open source wherever it's hosted. |
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jcamins |
:) |
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chris_n |
wow... quick flyby by pianohack |
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chris |
Yeah I just prefer to eat the dogfood :) |
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chris |
Walk the walk and all that |
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wizzyrea |
< got an android phone because of that. Still have my mac tho. :P |
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chris_n |
dogfood is probably ok... its the cool-aid I try to avoid :-) |
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jcamins |
Right. |
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* owen |
will be back tomorrow with questions about gitorious workflows! |
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chris |
Ok my stop |
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chris |
back |
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chris |
wtf is kardex? |
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jcamins |
I was just wondering that. |
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chris |
would it be wrong to reply and say |
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chris |
"Use more words" |
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chris |
hopefully someone else knows the answer, i suspect no, since i have no idea what it is :) |
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* wizzyrea |
consults teh googlez |
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jcamins |
http://books.google.com/books?[…]20serials&f=false |
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jcamins |
Ick. |
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jcamins |
Sorry about that. |
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jcamins |
http://bit.ly/9FTzHC |
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jcamins |
Much better. |
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wizzyrea |
oh, some sort of automated storage and retrieval system |
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chris |
yeah naw |
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jcamins |
I don't think so. |
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jcamins |
I think she's referring to what I just linked. |
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wizzyrea |
http://www.kardexremstar.com/default.aspx |
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jcamins |
I saw that, but that doesn't seem to have anything to do with serials. |
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chris |
so yeah, short answer is ... we dont know what you are talking about .. got a link? :) |
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wizzyrea |
I thought maybe it was an automated thing like the 3M stuff |
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jcamins |
I think "Kardex" is a historic term for "serial record." |
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wizzyrea |
< has no idea |
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wizzyrea |
you are probably right |
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wizzyrea |
I was so hoping it was something high tech. |
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wizzyrea |
oh well. |
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* jcamins |
is also completely at a loss as to what the question means |
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wizzyrea |
like "does koha interface in a useful way with these totally nifty automated machines that select magazines out of a rack for you?" |
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wizzyrea |
because that I would have an interest in :P |
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jcamins |
I've never seen those. |
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chris |
hi LBA |
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* chris_n |
loves his catalogers for entering full TOC material into every bib in the system |
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chris |
heh nice |
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chris_n |
especially for folks doing research... it saves many steps to the stacks |
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chris_n |
you can pretty much eliminate a book from the potential list of resources by reviewing its TOC |
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chris |
yeah |
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chris |
making stuff actually useful for borrowers++ |
