IRC log for #koha, 2010-09-20

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03:11 Amit heya chris
03:12 chris hey Amit
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04:53 irma hi everyone
04:53 chris hi irma
04:54 irma just visiting for a while
04:55 irma as I am working something out
04:56 irma and the loneliness of the office is getting to me ;-)
04:56 chris im about to head for home im afraid, im not sure who else is about though
04:57 irma np... going home is good! Enjoy!
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06:16 cait hi #koha
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06:20 robin hi
06:21 cait hi robin :)
06:22 * robin is setting a Mahara instance for our development etc. team. See if it's useful for tracking things, and also might give us a feel for integration with Koha.
06:22 cait Mahara?
06:23 robin It's an "e-portfolia" system. Aimed at schools for students to track all their work, rather than using textbooks.
06:24 robin err
06:24 robin rather than using exercise books
06:24 robin but more realistically, in addition too
06:24 robin
06:24 robin It's another project devs here (although not Chris or I) work on :)
06:25 robin I have a very bad memory for programming, and a few months later I've completely forgotten things I spent a week doing.
06:25 robin So I'm going to have a go recording a bit more, see if it works.
06:29 cait :)
06:29 cait I use a personal wiki to track things
06:30 cait can't do without some pages, habe to look up some git commands again and again
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06:32 robin yeah, we have a wiki, but it's more documentation-oriented.
06:32 robin so I'm installing it as an experiment to see if it's useful for things that are worth recording, but aren't really wiki material.
06:42 cait experiments++
06:42 cait ok, time to go to work
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06:43 cait morning paul_p
06:43 cait bbl
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07:42 kf good morning #koha
07:47 chris hiya kf
07:48 hdl hi chris
07:49 kf hi chris and hdl :)
07:49 chris hi hdl
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08:10 magnus g'day #koha
08:10 chris hi magnus
08:10 magnus hiya chris - storm over?
08:11 chris never really hit in wellington
08:11 chris but still bits going in the other places
08:11 chris[…]d-wipes-out-power
08:14 magnus good on you! ;-)
08:27 wasabi robin:  i have recently started  dumping things into a private wordpress site
08:27 wasabi ... mostly programming problems and solutions
08:28 wasabi git/shell/perl/mysql stuff, code and output snippets, etc
08:29 wasabi its working OK, editing is easier for me that wiki syntax
08:29 wasabi s/that/than/
08:30 wasabi and i get to practice with wordpress, which i think i'll run my website on eventually
08:31 magnus wordpress rocks! ;-)
08:31 wasabi a skill i can apply to ;)
08:31 wasabi yeah, me likey - so far
08:31 wasabi aah, it munges some code-snippets!
08:32 wasabi theres a code-formatting plugin to fix that, but i dont have it running yet... :/
08:33 wasabi easy to set up, lots of fun plugins
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09:05 magnus wasabi: true dat. can we see it?
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09:08 wasabi hmmm , prolly not ,  im sure i have ssh/mysql passwords in my code-pastes :/
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09:09 wasabi oops, firewall rules too
09:10 wasabi magnus:  i'll *hopefully* have a public one soon
09:11 magnus wasabi: cool!
09:11 wasabi its infuriating having to learn something arcane, only to forget it again
09:12 wasabi im re-learning how to ldap debug now
09:13 wasabi ive forgotten how i did it last time round :/  (no wpress then), this time ill take notes..
09:17 magnus wasabi: i have been thinking along the same lines myself for a long time, but havn't gotten around to it, yet...
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10:42 kmkale hi all
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10:44 kmkale After transfering an item between branches, how do i get rid of the in transit message? It shows "1 item, None available" and also "No holds allowed" for that item
10:47 kf that looks not like the transit message
10:47 kf I think its your circulation rules
10:47 kf if you transit an item, it still has the old homebranch and a new current branch
10:48 kf I think there is a sys pref for not sending items back to their original homebranch after check in
10:49 kmkale so at the receiving branch do i have to do something like receive them through some link / form?
10:50 kmkale The item is showing correct home / current branch..
10:51 kmkale This is what a staff client search for the item looks like..
10:51 kmkale 1 item, None available  1 unavailable:
10:51 kmkale * [CD / DVD] Kalpataru Recreation Libraries Pvt.Ltd.,Baner link Rd Pune [KV0003] (In transit) (1)
10:52 kmkale and when I click on the item this is what shows in the Holdings Status..
10:52 kmkale In transit from Kalpataru Recreation Libraries PVT. LTD. Sneha Nagar Branch, to Kalpataru Recreation Libraries Pvt.Ltd.,Baner link Rd Pune, since 08/16/2010
10:53 kf check in
10:53 kf check the item in to indicate that it has arrived at the library
10:53 kmkale but the items status shows ..
10:53 kmkale Checkout Status: Not Checked out
10:54 kmkale should I still try to check it in?
10:55 kmkale Nope. As expected it says "Not checked out."
11:28 kf yes, but transit should be gone now
11:29 kf it was not checked out, but in transit
11:29 kf sorry for the late answer - lunch time here
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11:38 kmkale sorry had to meet a walk in visitor. kf you are a wonder. Yes transit is gone now.
11:38 kmkale Thanks.
11:38 kmkale kf++
11:39 kf no problem
11:39 kf the items will stay in transit until checked in at the library
11:40 kf so you always know if they really arrived at the library
11:42 kmkale cool. I searched hi n low for receive functionality. The documentation is terse on this. Did not strike that we just have to check it in once..
11:42 kf it's always the obvious things you miss most easily
11:43 kf I think it works like this in some other ILS too
11:44 kf hm, I see no chapter for transit in the new manual
11:44 kf I thought there was one
11:45 kmkale there is one for transfers
11:45 kmkale but it does not mention that you have to check in once at the receiving library
11:45 kf[…]-manual/?ch=x6905
11:45 kf yep
11:46 kf I will make a note to ask nengard to add this step
11:49 * magnus notices Evergreen on "FLOSS weekly"
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11:53 kf hi magnus
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11:53 magnus hiya kf
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12:42 kf chris_n: hi - I saw your comment about my signed-off patch for bug 5191
12:42 munin Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5191 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, colin.campbell, ASSIGNED, Edit subscription shows patron notification always 'none'
12:43 kf chris_n: I checked my settings in git and all seems to be right, I resend the patch and it looks good to now, I have no idea whre the utf-9 came from.
12:43 kf I will be careful and check my next mails too
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12:58 kf hi owen
12:58 owen Hi kf. I hope you had a good weekend?
12:59 chris_n kf: thanks; I was practicing up on pushing patches and stumbled across that... I finally had to consult the oracle at #git to discover the fix
12:59 kf chris_n: sorry for causing problems
13:00 chris_n no problem at all :-)
13:00 kf owen: yes, hope you too
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13:10 jcamins Good morning, #koha
13:11 tcohen Good morning
13:11 kmkale Koha i dont seem to be able to turn off "Browse by Subject"
13:12 kmkale If I turn off "OpacBrowser" then "Browse by Hierarchy" is turned off :(
13:13 jwagner kmkale, try OpacAuthorities
13:15 kmkale aahhh!! thats what happens if you stay off koha for a few months ;)
13:16 kmkale thanks jwagner
13:19 * druthb waves to kmkale.
13:19 kmkale hi druthb
13:24 kf hi druthb :)
13:25 druthb :)
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14:00 owen Hi schuster how's it going?
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14:33 * wizzyrea yawns
14:33 wizzyrea good morning
14:34 owen Aw man wizzyrea did you sleep in #koha again? You gotta get home and sleep in your own bed.
14:34 sekjal morning, wizzyrea
14:34 wizzyrea lol no. I just really love reading the join/quit backlog ;)
14:34 jcamins Morning.
14:35 druthb hi, wizzyrea. :)
14:35 wizzyrea heya
14:35 * druthb hands the sleepy wizzy a cup of tea.
14:35 wizzyrea oh that's lovely thanks
14:35 wizzyrea :D
14:36 * jcamins hands wizzyrea some apple crisp since apparently she forgot to leave #koha, and therefore probably hasn't had breakfast ;)
14:36 wizzyrea lol
14:36 * jcamins hands apple crisp to everyone else in #koha while he's at it, because he has five pounds of it in his fridge.
14:36 wizzyrea duuude
14:36 * owen could really go for five pounds of apple crisp right now!
14:36 druthb jcamins++
14:37 jcamins :)
14:37 wizzyrea it's almost peak apple season
14:37 * wizzyrea contemplates a trip to the orchard
14:37 * sekjal went apple picking this weekend, got at least a peck
14:38 wizzyrea nice!
14:40 sekjal I meant to bake yesterday, but wound up watching a lot of TV instead
14:41 kf sekjal: sounds very familiar
14:41 * owen could really go for five pounds of apple crisp and a lot of TV right now!
14:42 jcamins I spent all weekend baking. It was wonderful!
14:42 wizzyrea i thought you were having beer all weekend, owen
14:42 owen Unfortunately just the one
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14:45 jcamins I didn't realize that the stories behind apple varieties were so colorful.
14:49 * druthb went to the National Zoo with a friend.
14:49 jcamins That sounds fun.
14:50 jcamins I haven't been to a zoo in years.
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14:55 druthb It was fun.  Our zoo here is supposed to be one of the best in the nation--certainly is, for conservation efforts and such...but they're doing some big-time remodeling right now.
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15:02 wizzyrea whoa, just saw the post on fb about your plains branch... that musta been a crazy storm
15:03 wizzyrea er, owen
15:05 jcamins What are the three dots next to the barcode field supposed to do?
15:05 jcamins I never noticed them before.
15:06 reva hi all, I was wondering if there is a pdf version of the koha manuals (for any version). When I use the "print this" on the top right of the manual pages, it only prints it as a web page, not in printer-friendly format.
15:08 wizzyrea there is a pdf version, but it currently has no screenshots
15:10 reva Thanks, wizzyrea: That is ok if there are no screen shots. What is the address please?
15:10 jcamins reva: if you are using Koha 3.0, the manual is available as a PDF:
15:15 reva wizzyrea: I already have the Wayne State Uni. one and it looks like  it is for administration. I was trying to use the one found under Reference. I tried clicking "all contents on one page..." it gave 401"Gone" message.
15:15 wizzyrea reva: I'm sorry, I"m not even sure what you're referring to, we don't have a "all contents on one page" option
15:16 wizzyrea on
15:16 wizzyrea which is where the documentation lives now
15:16 kf jcamins: sign of a plugin linked to the field, perhaps only active if you have set the syspref on
15:16 jcamins kf: ah-ha. That must be why when I clicked it nothing happened.
15:17 kf jcamins: I think it always shows, because it's linked in the framework, but not always works... never tried it
15:18 jcamins That makes sense.
15:19 owen wizzyrea: Yeah, luckily the damage wasn't too bad. Everyone in that town is mad because the authorities won't call it a tornado even though it caused damage like one.
15:20 reva wizzyrea: I was on this page:
15:20 wizzyrea Yep, that's not maintained by the community anymore
15:21 reva ok, so there are no reference manuals then? (Only the admin help from Wayne State?)
15:21 wizzyrea
15:21 wizzyrea is not the koha website anymore
15:21 wizzyrea if you are there, you are looking at outdated information.
15:22 wizzyrea I know it looks official.
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15:24 reva Thanks wizzyrea: but 3.2 does not have a pdf version?
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15:24 wizzyrea it does, but it doesn't have graphics. I'm trying to get you a more current version (the current generated version is months old, lacking lots of things.)
15:24 wizzyrea but it, you know, takes time.
15:25 reva I will know to look our for "community" in the web address.:)
15:25 wizzyrea :)
15:26 reva sorry, but I do not see a link for 3.2 pdf version. Am I misunderstanding you?
15:27 jcamins reva: wizzyrea is working on it right this moment.
15:27 wizzyrea ^^
15:27 wizzyrea what he said ;)
15:27 jcamins The link to the documentation page brings you to the HTML manual.
15:29 reva oh, ok. I get it. We were going to print the reference manual (some recent Koha version) and keep a hard copy just in case it disappears.
15:29 wizzyrea unless you know something I don't, I don't think it's going anywhere ;)
15:30 jcamins The manual is very much a work-in-progress. nengard is always adding more to it, so a printed copy would quickly become obsolete.
15:31 jcamins Plus, the manual documents a version of Koha that you're not using, unless you've decided to change to 3.2.
15:32 reva ok, I am still not comfortable relying on everything in a cloud.:) And the staff here hesitiate to use the web help.:( No jcamins: it is just the functionalities are similar so they can have something to fall back on when I leave.:)
15:33 reva jcamin: we will also update to 3.2 down the line.
15:33 jwagner Hrrmmmm.  Some jquery text substitutions aren't showing in IE.  Anything I can recommend as an IE setting change to make them show?
15:33 jcamins Update IE?
15:34 jcamins We determined that jQuery and IE 6 don't play nicely.
15:34 reva so are the patches also in the community site? No, I meant update from 3.0.6 to 3.2
15:34 sekjal reva: the Koha manual is in a Git repository, so you could pull it onto a local server, and update regularly.
15:34 owen Who plays nicely with IE6 besides the year 2000?
15:34 jcamins owen: well, no one.
15:34 reva hi sekjal: how do I pull it from a git repository?
15:34 jwagner jcamins, I'm in IE 8.  Not sure what the site that reported this is running.
15:35 jcamins Oh. Hm. So much for that idea.
15:35 owen You'd better find out jwagner
15:35 sekjal reva:  you'd need a machine with Git installed.
15:35 jcamins (side note: why does everyone other than me have modern web browsers?)
15:35 sekjal then, git clone to copy the repository originally
15:35 sekjal and git pull to fetch the latest updates whenever you wish
15:36 jwagner It seems to be specifically the replaceWith(" constructs -- things like $("label[for='phonepro']").html("Other phone:");  are working fine.
15:37 reva ok, I am having an IT help drop by today so we will get it done, sekjal:. and I can download git from any "clean" site like filehippo?
15:38 sekjal reva:
15:39 reva thanks a bunch sekjal: and just one more thing what are the  addresses for the repository and patches?
15:40 wizzyrea
15:40 sekjal reva:  the docs repo is at git://
15:41 reva sekjal and wizzyrea: thanks.
15:43 reva sorry for troubling: and the patches? (I lost the address cait gave for showing place of publication in OPAC.)
15:45 kf http://lists.koha-community.or[…]ugust/012495.html
15:45 kf it's not in git yet, but it's attached to the bug in bugzilla and I send it to the koha-patches mailing list
15:46 reva wonderful and thanks again to all of you and kf: ok, got it even though you are talking greek:).
15:46 kf greek?
15:47 reva oh, I meant the git and all things associated with it are new to me:).
15:47 owen kf: As in "It's Greek to me," meaning it's unintelligible.
15:47 kf oh
15:47 hdl in french greek is chinese
15:47 hdl in german, maybe still an other language.
15:47 kf hdl: I think we use chinese too
15:48 kf owen: thx :)
15:48 kf ok, time to leave for me - bye all :)
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16:01 owen Dang, I missed my chance to shoot my mouth off while logbot was gone.
16:01 wizzyrea and you had 3 minute!
16:01 wizzyrea though the alohalog was still here
16:01 wizzyrea >.>
16:03 wizzyrea wow. Wikipedia knows everything.
16:04 jcamins wizzyrea: except, apparently, what I ate for breakfast. There was no mention of "apple crisp" on the breakfast page.
16:04 wizzyrea hehe
16:04 wizzyrea the internet knows now though ;)
16:04 jcamins Yes.
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16:11 hdl hi brendan
16:11 brendan hi hdl
16:11 brendan YAY the intertubes are back :)
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16:37 owen Hi Lee!
16:37 wizzyrea hey lee :)
16:38 Lee hi ya guys!
16:38 Lee happy Monday
16:38 Lee I am just showing Diane our tech ser librarian how to use the IRC while I am in NZ
16:39 owen Hi Diane, I'll be one of the poor saps in here wishing he was in NZ :)
16:39 Lee so if you see her here she might need some help with our 3.2 install we are doing this month
16:40 Lee Awwww Owen we are gonna miss you
16:40 Lee esp. at happy hour
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16:42 Lee be back later ...working on setting her up
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16:43 reva I have another question: when I am building the leader and I click on the country code or language code link, it opens the page on the same window; but there is no way to back up the browser to the leader builder page (which is where you were). No option in the context right click menu either. Is it solved in 3.2?
16:45 jcamins reva: use the "back" function on your web browser. It's very irritating, but it works.
16:45 jcamins You can also hold down the Alt key and press the left arrow.
16:45 jcamins (that's the keyboard shortuct for "back")
16:45 reva jcamins: let me try that now.
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16:47 reva ok, the alt key back arrow works. Thanks. I was forever opening and going to another tab. exacerbating my carpal tunnel syndrome.
16:48 owen I wonder if it's supposed to do that...
16:49 jcamins owen: no, I'm sure it's a bug.
16:49 jcamins It should open in a separate tab like the other links.
16:49 reva jcamins: just fyi, the pop up leader builder (at least in my version of Koha) does not come with a back button!!
16:49 jcamins reva: yeah, that's why I suggested Alt+left arrow.
16:49 reva OK:)
16:49 owen Or right-click, Back
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16:50 owen I thought maybe there was some window-popping javascript which wasn't working, but there isn't.
16:51 owen We ought to just ship Koha with the country codes as authorized values
16:51 jcamins owen++
16:52 reva owen: funnily, right click context menu does not have a back option. I am running a firefox browser.
16:53 owen reva: It should, Are you sure you don't have something selected? You also can't be clicking inside a form field.
16:54 reva Also, this for if you know live CD things: when I install the live CD (in my case it has the ubuntu server and koha) on to my hard drive, is it equivalent to having a dual boot?. That is I will only be able to run the ubuntu server os or my windows xp?
16:55 reva owen: you are right; it does have back option (i had accidentally selected somethingso when I right clicked it only had options for copying, etc.)duh..
16:56 jcamins reva: if you have both Windows and Ubuntu installed, you will be able to switch between operating systems, yes.
16:56 wizzyrea but you won't be able to run them *at the same time(
16:56 wizzyrea *
16:56 wizzyrea so, for a server, that probably won't work so well.
16:57 jcamins Oh, I misunderstood your question.
16:57 reva so basically, I can even go for 3.2 for the live CD will also give me dual boot; so the only thing is I will have to install all the Debian, PERL, Apache separately in order, correct?
16:57 jcamins Listen to wizzyrea.
16:58 jcamins :)
16:58 reva ok, jcamins:). So wizzyrea, it will install itself like a dual boot?
16:59 wizzyrea If you install it, you will only be able to run one of those operating systems at a time
16:59 jcamins reva: "dual booting" just means there are two (or more) operating systems installed on one computer.
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17:00 wizzyrea so, if you want to, say, access your koha from the windows xp installation that resides on the same computer, you won't be able to do that in your scenario
17:00 wizzyrea make sense?
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17:01 reva Got it: I used the term "dual boot" loosely to indicate switching betweeh. My live cd has the ubuntu, my regular OS is windows XP. So basically, I can go for 3.2 instead but the initial install will involve all kinds of things like PERL (which I don't know anything about).
17:02 wizzyrea well, theoretically debian should come with most of what you need installed by default. Configuration thereof is another matter.
17:02 jcamins I love theory. :P
17:04 reva well I am having a kind-hearted IT person stopping by for integrating the patches and changing logo in the OPAC, I could try to persuade him to help me install and configure Debian.
17:04 wizzyrea it's not as hard as it seems, really. If you've used ubuntu at all you'll probably be fine
17:04 brendan Happy Birthday Nate
17:04 wizzyrea ooh! Birthday!
17:04 wizzyrea Happy Birthday Nate :)
17:05 jcamins Happy birthday Nate!
17:05 reva Debian lenny is what I would go for?
17:05 brendan @happybirthday
17:05 munin brendan: Error: "happybirthday" is not a valid command.
17:05 reva wizzyrea: that makes me feel positive:).
17:05 Nate Thanks everyone!
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17:15 hdl Happy birthday Nate
17:15 reva wizzyrea: they have current, current live and a plain 5.0.6. which one should I download?
17:15 Nate Thanks!
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17:21 reva I went to utexas ftp mirror for downloading Debian 5.0.6 for my intel x86. (which is i386 in the list). But the ftp directory has very many iso cds. I am not sure which one I would go with. Help?
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18:39 chris happy birthday Nate
18:39 cait happy birthday nate :)
18:39 cait and good morning chris :)
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18:40 owen Hi chris
18:40 owen chris, you're planning the Template-toolkit transition for 3.4 correct?
18:41 chris yup
18:41 owen Does that mean working on a bug that changes dozens of templates is a fool's errand at this point?
18:43 chris nope
18:43 chris because we have this
18:43 chris[…]50eb63b4a35555fba
18:43 chris at some point im gonna say, stop touching the old templates, but not yet
18:43 owen Okay, cool
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18:46 owen I didn't realize there could be a 1->1 translation for TT
18:46 chris its pretty close to that
18:47 cait cool :)
18:47 chris but there will be some fixing, so at some point early in the 3.4 cycle
18:47 chris will migrate them over, then call a freeze on the old templates, and fix them up
18:48 chris that point hasnt arrived yet though
18:48 jcamins croak?
18:48 jcamins Heh.
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18:48 * owen did a big push on Bug 3652 but it doesn't look like the work will make it into 3.2
18:48 munin Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3652 critical, P5, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED, XSS vulnerabilities
18:49 chris ahh yeah that would be good to have early on in 3.4
18:50 owen and now Bug 4048
18:50 munin Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4048 normal, P5, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED, CSS and JS libs must be outside of translated paths
18:50 chris sweet
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18:52 CGI563 hi
18:54 CGI563 hi ...
18:54 owen Hi CGI563 do you have a question?
18:54 CGI563 yup sir ... i have just installed koha 3.00.006 successfully
18:55 CGI563 everything seems to work except the email when new users are created
18:55 CGI563 i have set the auto email flag to true
18:56 CGI563 can u help here
18:56 CGI563 i can send emails using sendmail directly .... but not in koha
18:56 owen CGI563: Are other emails working? Emailing a cart, sending user requests for update of their record?
18:57 CGI563 no ... emails are not working at all
18:58 owen It sounds like your email problem may be systemic rather than related to Koha
18:59 CGI563 does koha use sendmail utility on unix?
18:59 CGI563 if so .... the sendmail utility works perfectly on my system ...
18:59 CGI563 even using perl scripts
19:00 owen I'm not an expert, but I don't think Koha cares what mail utility you use
19:00 CGI563 ok ... i am also getting one more perl error ....
19:00 brendan do you have a cronjob running?
19:00 * chris wanders off for breakfast
19:01 CGI563 o
19:01 CGI563 no
19:01 CGI563 i donot see any such job
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19:01 owen brendan: That would be required for notices but not for emailing a cart from the OPAC
19:01 reva hi I am trying again. I went to utexas ftp mirror for downloading Debian 5.0.6 for my intel x86. (which is i386 in the list). But the ftp directory has very many iso cds. I am not sure which one I would go with. Help?
19:01 owen CGI563: You said you could successfully email a cart from the OPAC?
19:02 CGI563 no ...
19:02 CGI563 email is not working at all
19:02 CGI563 how can i get that job running....
19:03 CGI563 you were saying something about cronjob?
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19:04 wizzyrea Latest official release of the "stable" CD images: 5.0.6.
19:05 CGI563 ok guys ... i am also getting an error when i click on "Patron categories"
19:05 jcamins CGI563: what error?
19:05 CGI563 Can't use an undefined value as an ARRAY reference at /vol/koha/koha3/intranet/c​gi-bin/admin/ line 222.
19:05 CGI563 any ideas?
19:05 wizzyrea have you defined patron types?
19:06 reva Same for Apache. Do I download the http server? wizzyrea: it has like very many iso images (labelled CD1, CD2, etc.). That is what I was aksing about. (I had gotten to UTexas ftp mirror for downloading 5.0.6.)
19:06 CGI563 no ... do I need to..?
19:06 owen It sounds like that's what CGI563 is trying to do wizzyrea
19:06 wizzyrea yea, I'm wondering if he's got something weird in there
19:06 wizzyrea :)
19:06 owen I see
19:07 CGI563 hey guys ... i have no idea as to what the prob may be
19:07 wizzyrea reva: I'd start with cd1
19:07 CGI563 i have these 2 probs some how...
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19:07 reva wizzyrea: ok. So there is only one CD or are all of them supposed to be downloaded?
19:07 CGI563 everything else seems perfect
19:08 CGI563 guys ... any idea for this error?
19:09 reva can it be opened with winrar or do I have to burn it as an iso image for installation?
19:11 jcamins reva: I would suggest looking for a guide to installing Debian.
19:12 CGI563 Can't use an undefined value as an ARRAY reference at /vol/koha/koha3/intranet/c​gi-bin/admin/ line 222.?
19:12 reva ok, I will do that jcamins: they have install instructions on their site. Do I download the http Apache server? And what version of PERL and MySQL?
19:12 CGI563 is there some problem with code in this file?
19:13 wizzy_awa no one has reported that one before that I am aware of CGI563
19:13 wizzy_awa it's not documented on the list anyway
19:13 CGI563 can some 1 check?
19:13 CGI563 or help in any wya
19:13 CGI563 *way
19:14 CGI563 some sort of quick fix if possible
19:14 CGI563 ?
19:14 owen CGI563: That's what we've been trying to do.
19:14 owen We're not stringing you along or something
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19:14 CGI563 ok ... cool .. thanks man
19:15 wizzyrea CGI563: did you say if you had defined patron categories?
19:15 owen Line 222 of has something to do with patron messaging
19:16 CGI563 219     PREF: foreach my $option ( @$messaging_options ) { 220         my $pref = C4::Members::Messaging::GetMessagingPreferences( { categorycode => $categorycode, 221                                                                     message_name       => $option->{'message_name'} } ); 222         next unless  @{$pref->{'transports'}}; 223         my $brief_pref = { message_attribute_id => $option->{'message_attribute_id'}, 224
19:16 CGI563 ok ... sorry ... here is what's on line 222
19:16 CGI563 next unless  @{$pref->{'transports'}};
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19:17 jcamins reva: I really can't advise on installing Debian, but between tutorials you could find online and the documentation in the Koha package, you should be able to get off to a good start. See[…]e8d3c59d7;hb=HEAD
19:17 CGI563 i think it has  aprob with @{$pref-> .... i just cannot figure out a temporary fix
19:18 CGI563 hey 1 quick ques .... any idea as to where the logs for koha emails would be dumped ... ?
19:18 CGI563 or where the code may be ... ?
19:18 CGI563 i might take a look
19:21 CGI563 FYI: I am using perl 5.12, OS: CentOS 5.2, mysql DB: 5.14 ...
19:22 jwagner owen, online?
19:25 owen jwagner: Yes
19:26 jwagner In old 3x versions (more than a year old), the opacnav entries show on the search results and title displays.  That was removed at some point, and I'm trying to figure out when & why.  git blame isn't giving me anything useful -- I figured you would probably know.
19:27 jwagner (approximately, that is)
19:27 jwagner I have a site that wants to display them on those pages, as in the older version -- not sure that's a good idea
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19:29 zico hello all
19:29 zico I found something in Koha-3.0.6
19:29 zico I cannot hold anything there
19:30 zico when I go to hold using any login account
19:30 zico it shows me the error
19:30 zico Can't use an undefined value as an ARRAY reference at /usr/share/koha/opac/cgi-bin/opac/ line 246.
19:31 wizzyrea do you have a default circ rule defined?
19:31 zico yep, I do have
19:32 owen jwagner: I can't find where it was taken out either, but I remember it happening.
19:32 owen The rationale is that the screen real estate is more importantly used for search results
19:33 jwagner Was there a particular reason, beyond "it just clutters up the page"
19:33 zico is this a bug of 3.0.6?
19:33 owen jwagner: Either you run the risk of pushing the facets down off the page where they won't be seen, or your opacnav is pushed down off the page where it won't be seen
19:33 jwagner owen, thanks, that's kind of what I figured.  The links are still present on the patron's OPAC account screen, where they do push the account tab links down the page.
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19:46 CGI563 hey guys .... any idea as to where the koha logs may be going?
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19:48 CGI563 any inputs please .... really appreciate some help here
19:50 reva jcamins: thanks, I will look at the link and see how it goes; as long as I am having to run either Koha/Ubuntu or my XP, I am seriously considering 3.2. So what comes after a beta; is it the stable version?
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19:51 owen reva: Yes
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19:52 CGI563 owen ... is 3.1 released?
19:52 owen There isn't a 3.1
19:52 owen There may be a 3.0.7, otherwise the next official release will be 3.2
19:53 CGI563 when would that be ... approx?
19:53 reva Ok, jacamins: now are the released patches integrated into 3.2; or would I have to go in and apply them?
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19:53 reva ok, I misspelled your name jcamins::).
19:54 jcamins reva: it varies.
19:55 jcamins A lot of improvements made it into 3.2, but a lot of others didn't.
19:55 reva so jcamins: some patches get into the newer version, but some may not have?
19:55 reva ok got it.
19:57 jcamins I'd definitely recommend getting comfortable using Linux before I started trying to apply patches, though.
19:59 reva ok, I was not going to do that right off the bat. I am timid with IT stuff anyhow.
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20:04 CGI563 ok guys ... thanks
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20:08 reva another thing I noticed in the z39 searches, it requires the accent marks when searching. like this title french Conférence générale des poids et mesures. Because most keyboards and language settings in the English speaking world are not enabled for that.
20:08 chris thats in cataloguing right? IE Z3950 searches of other systems .. not Koha
20:09 chris you'd have to take that up with whoevers catalogue you are searching
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20:16 reva chris: yes it is in cataloging. No I have the record in Koha, and I searched for it in OPAC without the accent marks and it does not come up, but with the accent marks it shows up. (It was my mistake saying it was in the z39.50 search.)
20:16 chris ah, yeah thats fixable with icu-chains in 3.2
20:18 reva chris: huh? But I think you are saying that there is a patch for it in 3.2?
20:19 chris no
20:19 chris you can set up zebra to do it using the icu-chains, you probably could do it from 3.0.6 ive only done it for the master branch
20:20 chris theres quite a bit of talk about it on the mailing lists
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20:24 reva chris: I would love detailed instructions, please; I will look at the mailing list.
20:27 reva chris: well, if you can, please give me a link to the discussion where there are instructions. Bye for the day.
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