Time  Nick       Message
22:40 munin      brendan: The current temperature in Northwest Goleta, Goleta, California is 22.4�C (3:41 PM PDT on September 20, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 63%. Dew Point: 15.0�C. Pressure: 29.70 in 1005.6 hPa (Falling).
22:40 brendan    @wunder 93117
20:31 chris      http://lists.katipo.co.nz/public/koha/2010-January/022269.html
20:27 reva       chris: well, if you can, please give me a link to the discussion where there are instructions. Bye for the day.
20:24 reva       chris: I would love detailed instructions, please; I will look at the mailing list.
20:20 chris      theres quite a bit of talk about it on the mailing lists
20:19 chris      you can set up zebra to do it using the icu-chains, you probably could do it from 3.0.6 ive only done it for the master branch
20:19 chris      no
20:18 reva       chris: huh? But I think you are saying that there is a patch for it in 3.2?
20:16 chris      ah, yeah thats fixable with icu-chains in 3.2
20:16 reva       chris: yes it is in cataloging. No I have the record in Koha, and I searched for it in OPAC without the accent marks and it does not come up, but with the accent marks it shows up. (It was my mistake saying it was in the z39.50 search.)
20:09 chris      you'd have to take that up with whoevers catalogue you are searching
20:08 chris      thats in cataloguing right? IE Z3950 searches of other systems .. not Koha
20:08 reva       another thing I noticed in the z39 searches, it requires the accent marks when searching. like this title french Conférence générale des poids et mesures. Because most keyboards and language settings in the English speaking world are not enabled for that.
20:04 CGI563     ok guys ... thanks
19:59 reva       ok, I was not going to do that right off the bat. I am timid with IT stuff anyhow.
19:57 jcamins    I'd definitely recommend getting comfortable using Linux before I started trying to apply patches, though.
19:55 reva       ok got it.
19:55 reva       so jcamins: some patches get into the newer version, but some may not have?
19:55 jcamins    A lot of improvements made it into 3.2, but a lot of others didn't.
19:54 jcamins    reva: it varies.
19:53 reva       ok, I misspelled your name jcamins::).
19:53 reva       Ok, jacamins: now are the released patches integrated into 3.2; or would I have to go in and apply them?
19:53 CGI563     when would that be ... approx?
19:52 owen       There may be a 3.0.7, otherwise the next official release will be 3.2
19:52 owen       There isn't a 3.1
19:52 CGI563     owen ... is 3.1 released?
19:51 owen       reva: Yes
19:50 reva       jcamins: thanks, I will look at the link and see how it goes; as long as I am having to run either Koha/Ubuntu or my XP, I am seriously considering 3.2. So what comes after a beta; is it the stable version?
19:48 CGI563     any inputs please .... really appreciate some help here
19:46 CGI563     hey guys .... any idea as to where the koha logs may be going?
19:33 jwagner    owen, thanks, that's kind of what I figured.  The links are still present on the patron's OPAC account screen, where they do push the account tab links down the page.
19:33 owen       jwagner: Either you run the risk of pushing the facets down off the page where they won't be seen, or your opacnav is pushed down off the page where it won't be seen
19:33 zico       is this a bug of 3.0.6?
19:33 jwagner    Was there a particular reason, beyond "it just clutters up the page"
19:32 owen       The rationale is that the screen real estate is more importantly used for search results
19:32 owen       jwagner: I can't find where it was taken out either, but I remember it happening.
19:31 zico       yep, I do have
19:31 wizzyrea   do you have a default circ rule defined?
19:30 zico       Can't use an undefined value as an ARRAY reference at /usr/share/koha/opac/cgi-bin/opac/opac-reserve.pl line 246.
19:30 zico       it shows me the error
19:30 zico       when I go to hold using any login account
19:29 zico       I cannot hold anything there
19:29 zico       I found something in Koha-3.0.6
19:29 zico       hello all
19:27 jwagner    I have a site that wants to display them on those pages, as in the older version -- not sure that's a good idea
19:27 jwagner    (approximately, that is)
19:26 jwagner    In old 3x versions (more than a year old), the opacnav entries show on the search results and title displays.  That was removed at some point, and I'm trying to figure out when & why.  git blame isn't giving me anything useful -- I figured you would probably know.
19:25 owen       jwagner: Yes
19:22 jwagner    owen, online?
19:21 CGI563     FYI: I am using perl 5.12, OS: CentOS 5.2, mysql DB: 5.14 ...
19:18 CGI563     i might take a look
19:18 CGI563     or where the code may be ... ?
19:18 CGI563     hey 1 quick ques .... any idea as to where the logs for koha emails would be dumped ... ?
19:17 CGI563     i think it has  aprob with @{$pref-> .... i just cannot figure out a temporary fix
19:17 jcamins    reva: I really can't advise on installing Debian, but between tutorials you could find online and the documentation in the Koha package, you should be able to get off to a good start. See http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=blob;f=INSTALL.debian;h=e90942b833bef28f6d62ca4d7b6782de8d3c59d7;hb=HEAD
19:16 CGI563     next unless  @{$pref->{'transports'}};
19:16 CGI563     ok ... sorry ... here is what's on line 222
19:16 CGI563     219     PREF: foreach my $option ( @$messaging_options ) { 220         my $pref = C4::Members::Messaging::GetMessagingPreferences( { categorycode => $categorycode, 221                                                                     message_name       => $option->{'message_name'} } ); 222         next unless  @{$pref->{'transports'}}; 223         my $brief_pref = { message_attribute_id => $option->{'message_attribute_id'}, 224
19:15 owen       Line 222 of categorie.pl has something to do with patron messaging
19:15 wizzyrea   CGI563: did you say if you had defined patron categories?
19:14 CGI563     ok ... cool .. thanks man
19:14 owen       We're not stringing you along or something
19:14 owen       CGI563: That's what we've been trying to do.
19:14 CGI563     ?
19:14 CGI563     some sort of quick fix if possible
19:13 CGI563     *way
19:13 CGI563     or help in any wya
19:13 CGI563     can some 1 check?
19:13 wizzy_awa  it's not documented on the list anyway
19:13 wizzy_awa  no one has reported that one before that I am aware of CGI563
19:12 CGI563     is there some problem with code in this file?
19:12 reva       ok, I will do that jcamins: they have install instructions on their site. Do I download the http Apache server? And what version of PERL and MySQL?
19:12 CGI563     Can't use an undefined value as an ARRAY reference at /vol/koha/koha3/intranet/cgi-bin/admin/categorie.pl line 222.?
19:11 jcamins    reva: I would suggest looking for a guide to installing Debian.
19:09 reva       can it be opened with winrar or do I have to burn it as an iso image for installation?
19:08 CGI563     guys ... any idea for this error?
19:07 CGI563     everything else seems perfect
19:07 reva       wizzyrea: ok. So there is only one CD or are all of them supposed to be downloaded?
19:07 CGI563     i have these 2 probs some how...
19:07 wizzyrea   reva: I'd start with cd1
19:07 CGI563     hey guys ... i have no idea as to what the prob may be
19:06 owen       I see
19:06 wizzyrea   :)
19:06 wizzyrea   yea, I'm wondering if he's got something weird in there
19:06 owen       It sounds like that's what CGI563 is trying to do wizzyrea
19:06 CGI563     no ... do I need to..?
19:06 reva       Same for Apache. Do I download the http server? wizzyrea: it has like very many iso images (labelled CD1, CD2, etc.). That is what I was aksing about. (I had gotten to UTexas ftp mirror for downloading 5.0.6.)
19:05 wizzyrea   have you defined patron types?
19:05 CGI563     any ideas?
19:05 CGI563     Can't use an undefined value as an ARRAY reference at /vol/koha/koha3/intranet/cgi-bin/admin/categorie.pl line 222.
19:05 jcamins    CGI563: what error?
19:05 CGI563     ok guys ... i am also getting an error when i click on "Patron categories"
19:04 wizzyrea   Latest official release of the "stable" CD images: 5.0.6.
19:03 CGI563     you were saying something about process_message.pl cronjob?
19:02 CGI563     how can i get that job running....
19:02 CGI563     email is not working at all
19:02 CGI563     no ...
19:01 owen       CGI563: You said you could successfully email a cart from the OPAC?
19:01 reva       hi I am trying again. I went to utexas ftp mirror for downloading Debian 5.0.6 for my intel x86. (which is i386 in the list). But the ftp directory has very many iso cds. I am not sure which one I would go with. Help?
19:01 owen       brendan: That would be required for notices but not for emailing a cart from the OPAC
19:01 CGI563     i donot see any such job
19:01 CGI563     no
19:01 CGI563     o
19:00 * chris    wanders off for breakfast
19:00 brendan    do you have a process_message.pl cronjob running?
19:00 CGI563     ok ... i am also getting one more perl error ....
19:00 owen       I'm not an expert, but I don't think Koha cares what mail utility you use
18:59 CGI563     even using perl scripts
18:59 CGI563     if so .... the sendmail utility works perfectly on my system ...
18:59 CGI563     does koha use sendmail utility on unix?
18:58 owen       It sounds like your email problem may be systemic rather than related to Koha
18:57 CGI563     no ... emails are not working at all
18:56 owen       CGI563: Are other emails working? Emailing a cart, sending user requests for update of their record?
18:56 CGI563     i can send emails using sendmail directly .... but not in koha
18:56 CGI563     can u help here
18:55 CGI563     i have set the auto email flag to true
18:55 CGI563     everything seems to work except the email when new users are created
18:54 CGI563     yup sir ... i have just installed koha 3.00.006 successfully
18:54 owen       Hi CGI563 do you have a question?
18:54 CGI563     hi ...
18:52 CGI563     hi
18:50 chris      sweet
18:50 munin      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4048 normal, P5, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED, CSS and JS libs must be outside of translated paths
18:50 owen       and now Bug 4048
18:49 chris      ahh yeah that would be good to have early on in 3.4
18:48 munin      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3652 critical, P5, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED, XSS vulnerabilities
18:48 * owen     did a big push on Bug 3652 but it doesn't look like the work will make it into 3.2
18:48 jcamins    Heh.
18:48 jcamins    croak?
18:48 chris      that point hasnt arrived yet though
18:47 chris      will migrate them over, then call a freeze on the old templates, and fix them up
18:47 chris      but there will be some fixing, so at some point early in the 3.4 cycle
18:47 cait       cool :)
18:46 chris      its pretty close to that
18:46 owen       I didn't realize there could be a 1->1 translation for TT
18:43 owen       Okay, cool
18:43 chris      at some point im gonna say, stop touching the old templates, but not yet
18:43 chris      http://git.catalyst.net.nz/gw?p=koha.git;a=blob;f=installer/html-template-to-template-toolkit.pl;h=3efdb6a07bdff1859a3af14e28652304846079f6;hb=161e7d9a0c48d4aaedf1a9450eb63b4a35555fba
18:43 chris      because we have this
18:43 chris      nope
18:41 owen       Does that mean working on a bug that changes dozens of templates is a fool's errand at this point?
18:41 chris      yup
18:40 owen       chris, you're planning the Template-toolkit transition for 3.4 correct?
18:40 owen       Hi chris
18:39 cait       and good morning chris :)
18:39 cait       happy birthday nate :)
18:39 chris      happy birthday Nate
17:21 reva       I went to utexas ftp mirror for downloading Debian 5.0.6 for my intel x86. (which is i386 in the list). But the ftp directory has very many iso cds. I am not sure which one I would go with. Help?
17:15 Nate       Thanks!
17:15 reva       wizzyrea: they have current, current live and a plain 5.0.6. which one should I download?
17:15 hdl        Happy birthday Nate
17:05 Nate       Thanks everyone!
17:05 reva       wizzyrea: that makes me feel positive:).
17:05 munin      brendan: Error: "happybirthday" is not a valid command.
17:05 brendan    @happybirthday
17:05 reva       Debian lenny is what I would go for?
17:05 jcamins    Happy birthday Nate!
17:04 wizzyrea   Happy Birthday Nate :)
17:04 wizzyrea   ooh! Birthday!
17:04 brendan    Happy Birthday Nate
17:04 wizzyrea   it's not as hard as it seems, really. If you've used ubuntu at all you'll probably be fine
17:04 reva       well I am having a kind-hearted IT person stopping by for integrating the patches and changing logo in the OPAC, I could try to persuade him to help me install and configure Debian.
17:02 jcamins    I love theory. :P
17:02 wizzyrea   well, theoretically debian should come with most of what you need installed by default. Configuration thereof is another matter.
17:01 reva       Got it: I used the term "dual boot" loosely to indicate switching betweeh. My live cd has the ubuntu, my regular OS is windows XP. So basically, I can go for 3.2 instead but the initial install will involve all kinds of things like PERL (which I don't know anything about).
17:00 wizzyrea   make sense?
17:00 wizzyrea   so, if you want to, say, access your koha from the windows xp installation that resides on the same computer, you won't be able to do that in your scenario
16:59 jcamins    reva: "dual booting" just means there are two (or more) operating systems installed on one computer.
16:59 wizzyrea   If you install it, you will only be able to run one of those operating systems at a time
16:58 reva       ok, jcamins:). So wizzyrea, it will install itself like a dual boot?
16:58 jcamins    :)
16:57 jcamins    Listen to wizzyrea.
16:57 reva       so basically, I can even go for 3.2 for the live CD will also give me dual boot; so the only thing is I will have to install all the Debian, PERL, Apache separately in order, correct?
16:57 jcamins    Oh, I misunderstood your question.
16:56 wizzyrea   so, for a server, that probably won't work so well.
16:56 wizzyrea   *
16:56 wizzyrea   but you won't be able to run them *at the same time(
16:56 jcamins    reva: if you have both Windows and Ubuntu installed, you will be able to switch between operating systems, yes.
16:55 reva       owen: you are right; it does have back option (i had accidentally selected somethingso when I right clicked it only had options for copying, etc.)duh..
16:54 reva       Also, this for if you know live CD things: when I install the live CD (in my case it has the ubuntu server and koha) on to my hard drive, is it equivalent to having a dual boot?. That is I will only be able to run the ubuntu server os or my windows xp?
16:53 owen       reva: It should, Are you sure you don't have something selected? You also can't be clicking inside a form field.
16:52 reva       owen: funnily, right click context menu does not have a back option. I am running a firefox browser.
16:51 jcamins    owen++
16:51 owen       We ought to just ship Koha with the country codes as authorized values
16:50 owen       I thought maybe there was some window-popping javascript which wasn't working, but there isn't.
16:49 owen       Or right-click, Back
16:49 reva       OK:)
16:49 jcamins    reva: yeah, that's why I suggested Alt+left arrow.
16:49 reva       jcamins: just fyi, the pop up leader builder (at least in my version of Koha) does not come with a back button!!
16:49 jcamins    It should open in a separate tab like the other links.
16:49 jcamins    owen: no, I'm sure it's a bug.
16:48 owen       I wonder if it's supposed to do that...
16:47 reva       ok, the alt key back arrow works. Thanks. I was forever opening and going to another tab. exacerbating my carpal tunnel syndrome.
16:45 reva       jcamins: let me try that now.
16:45 jcamins    (that's the keyboard shortuct for "back")
16:45 jcamins    You can also hold down the Alt key and press the left arrow.
16:45 jcamins    reva: use the "back" function on your web browser. It's very irritating, but it works.
16:43 reva       I have another question: when I am building the leader and I click on the country code or language code link, it opens the page on the same window; but there is no way to back up the browser to the leader builder page (which is where you were). No option in the context right click menu either. Is it solved in 3.2?
16:42 Lee        be back later ...working on setting her up
16:40 Lee        esp. at happy hour
16:40 Lee        Awwww Owen we are gonna miss you
16:39 Lee        so if you see her here she might need some help with our 3.2 install we are doing this month
16:39 owen       Hi Diane, I'll be one of the poor saps in here wishing he was in NZ :)
16:38 Lee        I am just showing Diane our tech ser librarian how to use the IRC while I am in NZ
16:38 Lee        happy Monday
16:38 Lee        hi ya guys!
16:37 wizzyrea   hey lee :)
16:37 owen       Hi Lee!
16:11 brendan    YAY the intertubes are back :)
16:11 brendan    hi hdl
16:11 hdl        hi brendan
16:04 jcamins    Yes.
16:04 wizzyrea   the internet knows now though ;)
16:04 wizzyrea   hehe
16:04 jcamins    wizzyrea: except, apparently, what I ate for breakfast. There was no mention of "apple crisp" on the breakfast page.
16:03 wizzyrea   wow. Wikipedia knows everything.
16:01 wizzyrea   >.>
16:01 wizzyrea   though the alohalog was still here
16:01 wizzyrea   and you had 3 minute!
16:01 owen       Dang, I missed my chance to shoot my mouth off while logbot was gone.
15:51 owen       http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greek_to_me
15:48 kf         ok, time to leave for me - bye all :)
15:48 kf         owen: thx :)
15:47 kf         hdl: I think we use chinese too
15:47 hdl        in german, maybe still an other language.
15:47 hdl        in french greek is chinese
15:47 kf         oh
15:47 owen       kf: As in "It's Greek to me," meaning it's unintelligible.
15:47 reva       oh, I meant the git and all things associated with it are new to me:).
15:46 kf         greek?
15:46 reva       wonderful and thanks again to all of you and kf: ok, got it even though you are talking greek:).
15:45 kf         it's not in git yet, but it's attached to the bug in bugzilla and I send it to the koha-patches mailing list
15:45 kf         http://lists.koha-community.org/pipermail/koha-patches/2010-August/012495.html
15:43 reva       sorry for troubling: and the patches? (I lost the address cait gave for showing place of publication in OPAC.)
15:41 reva       sekjal and wizzyrea: thanks.
15:40 sekjal     reva:  the docs repo is at git://git.koha-community.org/kohadocs.git
15:40 wizzyrea   git.koha-community.org
15:39 reva       thanks a bunch sekjal: and just one more thing what are the  addresses for the repository and patches?
15:38 sekjal     reva: http://git-scm.com/download
15:37 reva       ok, I am having an IT help drop by today so we will get it done, sekjal:. and I can download git from any "clean" site like filehippo?
15:36 jwagner    It seems to be specifically the replaceWith(" constructs -- things like $("label[for='phonepro']").html("Other phone:");  are working fine.
15:35 sekjal     and git pull to fetch the latest updates whenever you wish
15:35 sekjal     then, git clone to copy the repository originally
15:35 jcamins    (side note: why does everyone other than me have modern web browsers?)
15:35 sekjal     reva:  you'd need a machine with Git installed.
15:35 owen       You'd better find out jwagner
15:35 jcamins    Oh. Hm. So much for that idea.
15:34 jwagner    jcamins, I'm in IE 8.  Not sure what the site that reported this is running.
15:34 reva       hi sekjal: how do I pull it from a git repository?
15:34 jcamins    owen: well, no one.
15:34 owen       Who plays nicely with IE6 besides the year 2000?
15:34 sekjal     reva: the Koha manual is in a Git repository, so you could pull it onto a local server, and update regularly.
15:34 reva       so are the patches also in the community site? No, I meant update from 3.0.6 to 3.2
15:34 jcamins    We determined that jQuery and IE 6 don't play nicely.
15:33 jcamins    Update IE?
15:33 jwagner    Hrrmmmm.  Some jquery text substitutions aren't showing in IE.  Anything I can recommend as an IE setting change to make them show?
15:33 reva       jcamin: we will also update to 3.2 down the line.
15:32 reva       ok, I am still not comfortable relying on everything in a cloud.:) And the staff here hesitiate to use the web help.:( No jcamins: it is just the functionalities are similar so they can have something to fall back on when I leave.:)
15:31 jcamins    Plus, the manual documents a version of Koha that you're not using, unless you've decided to change to 3.2.
15:30 jcamins    The manual is very much a work-in-progress. nengard is always adding more to it, so a printed copy would quickly become obsolete.
15:29 wizzyrea   unless you know something I don't, I don't think it's going anywhere ;)
15:29 reva       oh, ok. I get it. We were going to print the reference manual (some recent Koha version) and keep a hard copy just in case it disappears.
15:27 jcamins    The link to the documentation page brings you to the HTML manual.
15:27 wizzyrea   what he said ;)
15:27 wizzyrea   ^^
15:27 jcamins    reva: wizzyrea is working on it right this moment.
15:26 reva       sorry, but I do not see a link for 3.2 pdf version. Am I misunderstanding you?
15:25 wizzyrea   :)
15:25 reva       I will know to look our for "community" in the web address.:)
15:24 wizzyrea   but it, you know, takes time.
15:24 wizzyrea   it does, but it doesn't have graphics. I'm trying to get you a more current version (the current generated version is months old, lacking lots of things.)
15:24 reva       Thanks wizzyrea: but 3.2 does not have a pdf version?
15:22 wizzyrea   I know it looks official.
15:21 wizzyrea   if you are there, you are looking at outdated information.
15:21 wizzyrea   koha.org is not the koha website anymore
15:21 wizzyrea   http://koha-community.org/documentation/
15:21 reva       ok, so there are no reference manuals then? (Only the admin help from Wayne State?)
15:20 wizzyrea   Yep, that's not maintained by the community anymore
15:20 reva       wizzyrea: I was on this page: http://koha.org/documentation/manual/3.2.
15:19 owen       wizzyrea: Yeah, luckily the damage wasn't too bad. Everyone in that town is mad because the authorities won't call it a tornado even though it caused damage like one.
15:18 jcamins    That makes sense.
15:17 kf         jcamins: I think it always shows, because it's linked in the framework, but not always works... never tried it
15:16 jcamins    kf: ah-ha. That must be why when I clicked it nothing happened.
15:16 kf         jcamins: sign of a plugin linked to the field, perhaps only active if you have set the syspref on
15:16 wizzyrea   which is where the documentation lives now
15:16 wizzyrea   on koha-community.org
15:15 wizzyrea   reva: I'm sorry, I"m not even sure what you're referring to, we don't have a "all contents on one page" option
15:15 reva       wizzyrea: I already have the Wayne State Uni. one and it looks like  it is for administration. I was trying to use the one found under Reference. I tried clicking "all contents on one page..." it gave 401"Gone" message.
15:10 jcamins    reva: if you are using Koha 3.0, the manual is available as a PDF: http://koha-community.org/documentation/
15:10 reva       Thanks, wizzyrea: That is ok if there are no screen shots. What is the address please?
15:08 wizzyrea   there is a pdf version, but it currently has no screenshots
15:06 reva       hi all, I was wondering if there is a pdf version of the koha manuals (for any version). When I use the "print this" on the top right of the manual pages, it only prints it as a web page, not in printer-friendly format.
15:05 jcamins    I never noticed them before.
15:05 jcamins    What are the three dots next to the barcode field supposed to do?
15:03 wizzyrea   er, owen
15:02 wizzyrea   whoa, just saw the post on fb about your plains branch... that musta been a crazy storm
14:55 druthb     It was fun.  Our zoo here is supposed to be one of the best in the nation--certainly is, for conservation efforts and such...but they're doing some big-time remodeling right now.
14:50 jcamins    I haven't been to a zoo in years.
14:49 jcamins    That sounds fun.
14:49 * druthb   went to the National Zoo with a friend.
14:45 jcamins    I didn't realize that the stories behind apple varieties were so colorful.
14:42 owen       Unfortunately just the one
14:42 wizzyrea   i thought you were having beer all weekend, owen
14:42 jcamins    I spent all weekend baking. It was wonderful!
14:41 * owen     could really go for five pounds of apple crisp and a lot of TV right now!
14:41 kf         sekjal: sounds very familiar
14:40 sekjal     I meant to bake yesterday, but wound up watching a lot of TV instead
14:38 wizzyrea   nice!
14:37 * sekjal   went apple picking this weekend, got at least a peck
14:37 * wizzyrea contemplates a trip to the orchard
14:37 wizzyrea   it's almost peak apple season
14:37 jcamins    :)
14:36 druthb     jcamins++
14:36 * owen     could really go for five pounds of apple crisp right now!
14:36 wizzyrea   duuude
14:36 * jcamins  hands apple crisp to everyone else in #koha while he's at it, because he has five pounds of it in his fridge.
14:36 wizzyrea   lol
14:36 * jcamins  hands wizzyrea some apple crisp since apparently she forgot to leave #koha, and therefore probably hasn't had breakfast ;)
14:35 wizzyrea   :D
14:35 wizzyrea   oh that's lovely thanks
14:35 * druthb   hands the sleepy wizzy a cup of tea.
14:35 wizzyrea   heya
14:35 druthb     hi, wizzyrea. :)
14:34 jcamins    Morning.
14:34 wizzyrea   lol no. I just really love reading the join/quit backlog ;)
14:34 sekjal     morning, wizzyrea
14:34 owen       Aw man wizzyrea did you sleep in #koha again? You gotta get home and sleep in your own bed.
14:33 wizzyrea   good morning
14:33 * wizzyrea yawns
14:02 kmkale     hi owen
14:01 * druthb   waves to schuster
14:00 owen       Hi schuster how's it going?
13:25 druthb     :)
13:24 kf         hi druthb :)
13:19 kmkale     hi druthb
13:19 * druthb   waves to kmkale.
13:16 kmkale     thanks jwagner
13:15 kmkale     aahhh!! thats what happens if you stay off koha for a few months ;)
13:13 jwagner    kmkale, try OpacAuthorities
13:12 kmkale     If I turn off "OpacBrowser" then "Browse by Hierarchy" is turned off :(
13:11 kmkale     Koha 	3.01.00.145 i dont seem to be able to turn off "Browse by Subject"
13:11 tcohen     Good morning
13:10 jcamins    Good morning, #koha
13:00 kf         owen: yes, hope you too
13:00 chris_n    no problem at all :-)
12:59 kf         chris_n: sorry for causing problems
12:59 chris_n    kf: thanks; I was practicing up on pushing patches and stumbled across that... I finally had to consult the oracle at #git to discover the fix
12:58 owen       Hi kf. I hope you had a good weekend?
12:58 kf         hi owen
12:43 kf         I will be careful and check my next mails too
12:43 kf         chris_n: I checked my settings in git and all seems to be right, I resend the patch and it looks good to now, I have no idea whre the utf-9 came from.
12:42 munin      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5191 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, colin.campbell, ASSIGNED, Edit subscription shows patron notification always 'none'
12:42 kf         chris_n: hi - I saw your comment about my signed-off patch for bug 5191
11:53 magnus     hiya kf
11:53 kf         hi magnus
11:49 * magnus   notices Evergreen on "FLOSS weekly" http://twit.tv/floss132
11:46 kf         I will make a note to ask nengard to add this step
11:45 kf         yep
11:45 kf         http://koha-community.org/documentation/3-2-manual/?ch=x6905
11:45 kmkale     but it does not mention that you have to check in once at the receiving library
11:45 kmkale     there is one for transfers
11:44 kf         I thought there was one
11:44 kf         hm, I see no chapter for transit in the new manual
11:43 kf         I think it works like this in some other ILS too
11:42 kf         it's always the obvious things you miss most easily
11:42 kmkale     cool. I searched hi n low for receive functionality. The documentation is terse on this. Did not strike that we just have to check it in once..
11:40 kf         so you always know if they really arrived at the library
11:39 kf         the items will stay in transit until checked in at the library
11:39 kf         no problem
11:38 kmkale     kf++
11:38 kmkale     Thanks.
11:38 kmkale     sorry had to meet a walk in visitor. kf you are a wonder. Yes transit is gone now.
11:29 kf         sorry for the late answer - lunch time here
11:29 kf         it was not checked out, but in transit
11:28 kf         yes, but transit should be gone now
10:55 kmkale     Nope. As expected it says "Not checked out."
10:54 kmkale     should I still try to check it in?
10:53 kmkale     Checkout Status: Not Checked out
10:53 kmkale     but the items status shows ..
10:53 kf         check the item in to indicate that it has arrived at the library
10:53 kf         check in
10:52 kmkale     In transit from Kalpataru Recreation Libraries PVT. LTD. Sneha Nagar Branch, to Kalpataru Recreation Libraries Pvt.Ltd.,Baner link Rd Pune, since 08/16/2010
10:52 kmkale     and when I click on the item this is what shows in the Holdings Status..
10:51 kmkale     * [CD / DVD] Kalpataru Recreation Libraries Pvt.Ltd.,Baner link Rd Pune [KV0003] (In transit) (1)
10:51 kmkale     1 item, None available  1 unavailable:
10:51 kmkale     This is what a staff client search for the item looks like..
10:50 kmkale     The item is showing correct home / current branch..
10:49 kmkale     so at the receiving branch do i have to do something like receive them through some link / form?
10:48 kf         I think there is a sys pref for not sending items back to their original homebranch after check in
10:47 kf         if you transit an item, it still has the old homebranch and a new current branch
10:47 kf         I think its your circulation rules
10:47 kf         that looks not like the transit message
10:44 kmkale     After transfering an item between branches, how do i get rid of the in transit message? It shows "1 item, None available" and also "No holds allowed" for that item
10:42 kmkale     hi all
09:17 magnus     wasabi: i have been thinking along the same lines myself for a long time, but havn't gotten around to it, yet...
09:13 wasabi     ive forgotten how i did it last time round :/  (no wpress then), this time ill take notes..
09:12 wasabi     im re-learning how to ldap debug now
09:11 wasabi     its infuriating having to learn something arcane, only to forget it again
09:11 magnus     wasabi: cool!
09:10 wasabi     magnus:  i'll *hopefully* have a public one soon
09:09 wasabi     oops, firewall rules too
09:08 wasabi     hmmm , prolly not ,  im sure i have ssh/mysql passwords in my code-pastes :/
09:05 magnus     wasabi: true dat. can we see it?
08:33 wasabi     easy to set up, lots of fun plugins
08:32 wasabi     theres a code-formatting plugin to fix that, but i dont have it running yet... :/
08:31 wasabi     aah, it munges some code-snippets!
08:31 wasabi     yeah, me likey - so far
08:31 wasabi     a skill i can apply to kc.org ;)
08:31 magnus     wordpress rocks! ;-)
08:30 wasabi     and i get to practice with wordpress, which i think i'll run my website on eventually
08:29 wasabi     s/that/than/
08:29 wasabi     its working OK, editing is easier for me that wiki syntax
08:28 wasabi     git/shell/perl/mysql stuff, code and output snippets, etc
08:27 wasabi     ... mostly programming problems and solutions
08:27 wasabi     robin:  i have recently started  dumping things into a private wordpress site
08:14 magnus     good on you! ;-)
08:11 chris      http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/4147391/Wind-wipes-out-power
08:11 chris      but still bits going in the other places
08:11 chris      never really hit in wellington
08:10 magnus     hiya chris - storm over?
08:10 chris      hi magnus
08:10 magnus     g'day #koha
07:49 chris      hi hdl
07:49 kf         hi chris and hdl :)
07:48 hdl        hi chris
07:47 chris      hiya kf
07:42 kf         good morning #koha
06:43 cait       bbl
06:43 cait       morning paul_p
06:42 cait       ok, time to go to work
06:42 cait       experiments++
06:32 robin      so I'm installing it as an experiment to see if it's useful for things that are worth recording, but aren't really wiki material.
06:32 robin      yeah, we have a wiki, but it's more documentation-oriented.
06:30 cait       can't do without some pages, habe to look up some git commands again and again
06:29 cait       I use a personal wiki to track things
06:29 cait       :)
06:25 robin      So I'm going to have a go recording a bit more, see if it works.
06:25 robin      I have a very bad memory for programming, and a few months later I've completely forgotten things I spent a week doing.
06:24 robin      It's another project devs here (although not Chris or I) work on :)
06:24 robin      http://mahara.org/
06:24 robin      but more realistically, in addition too
06:24 robin      rather than using exercise books
06:24 robin      err
06:23 robin      It's an "e-portfolia" system. Aimed at schools for students to track all their work, rather than using textbooks.
06:22 cait       Mahara?
06:22 * robin    is setting a Mahara instance for our development etc. team. See if it's useful for tracking things, and also might give us a feel for integration with Koha.
06:21 cait       hi robin :)
06:20 robin      hi
06:16 cait       hi #koha
04:57 irma       np... going home is good! Enjoy!
04:56 chris      im about to head for home im afraid, im not sure who else is about though
04:56 irma       and the loneliness of the office is getting to me ;-)
04:55 irma       as I am working something out
04:54 irma       just visiting for a while
04:53 chris      hi irma
04:53 irma       hi everyone
03:12 chris      hey Amit
03:11 Amit       heya chris