| Time |
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Nick |
Message |
| 00:00 |
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chris |
whoa |
| 00:00 |
|
chris |
heres the storm |
| 00:00 |
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robin |
lightening and thunder and bears, oh my! |
| 00:05 |
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| 00:07 |
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druthb |
hi. |
| 00:08 |
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chris |
heya druthb ;) |
| 00:09 |
|
chris |
wellington is busy being thundered on |
| 00:10 |
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chris |
hopefully the weather is better hwere you are |
| 00:10 |
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druthb |
it rained a little bit here earlier, too...might storm some tonight, but nothing bad. |
| 00:17 |
|
jo |
warm, blue skys and light breeze in Horowhenua |
| 00:17 |
|
jo |
get that in paradise I spose ... |
| 00:18 |
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chris |
heh |
| 00:20 |
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jo |
anyone know how to download and save a you tube video to show offline? |
| 00:21 |
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druthb |
RealPlayer SP can do that; there are other alternatives, but I have RealPlayer on my PC anyway, so I use that. |
| 00:25 |
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jo |
oh cool - i'll go look thanks. |
| 00:25 |
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chris |
yeah there are a few linux ones that will do it |
| 00:25 |
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jo |
I get tears in my eyes whenever i view this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v[…]e=player_embedded |
| 00:25 |
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chris |
if you get stuck |
| 00:26 |
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chris |
i can grab it for you |
| 00:26 |
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jo |
i just know the tech will fail if i rely on a live link |
| 00:26 |
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jo |
ye splease |
| 00:26 |
|
jo |
chris: yes please |
| 00:26 |
|
jo |
that link above |
| 00:26 |
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chris |
k, will check the license and do that if it allows |
| 00:27 |
|
jo |
thanks |
| 00:27 |
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chris |
(gotta walk the walk if you are gonna talk the talk :)) |
| 00:27 |
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jo |
yep |
| 00:27 |
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jo |
that link ok? |
| 00:27 |
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chris |
yup |
| 00:29 |
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druthb |
awesome video! |
| 00:29 |
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chris |
gah i hate it when places dont put licensing information in an easy to find place |
| 00:29 |
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* chris |
will email them |
| 00:29 |
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jo |
thanks Chris |
| 00:30 |
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jo |
druthb: i know ... and while its aimed at USA so relevant for western world in general |
| 00:30 |
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jo |
and that generation is one to be reckoned with - and one that librarians have to be relevant to |
| 00:31 |
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chris |
emailed them to ask |
| 00:32 |
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jo |
thanks ... i need it for tomorrow though .. |
| 00:32 |
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chris |
ahh, i may not have an answer by then |
| 00:33 |
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jo |
probably not. I may have to run with a live link |
| 00:36 |
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chris |
http://vimeo.com/2032854 |
| 00:37 |
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chris |
you can download from here if you login |
| 00:37 |
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* chris |
signs up |
| 00:38 |
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chris |
yup its downloading now |
| 00:38 |
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chris |
so you could sign up too |
| 00:38 |
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chris |
im going for lunch now |
| 00:38 |
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chris |
but its downloading |
| 00:39 |
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jo |
oh cool :) |
| 00:39 |
|
jo |
i'll leave it to you if you don't mind |
| 00:39 |
|
jo |
i'll keep frantically writing |
| 00:39 |
|
jo |
and making stuff up |
| 00:39 |
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chris |
k, ill email it |
| 00:47 |
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brendan_l |
heh there is a UCSB shirt in that youtube video |
| 00:47 |
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brendan_l |
I live at UCSB family housing |
| 01:05 |
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| 01:21 |
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chris_n |
time to hit the hay |
| 01:21 |
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chris_n |
g'night #koha |
| 01:21 |
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jo |
goodnight |
| 01:21 |
|
jo |
oh and here comes Wellington's storm |
| 01:22 |
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robin |
jo: it already appears to have passed by here. A bit anticlimatic really :) |
| 01:55 |
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jo |
yeah - well it got awfullt black and cabbage trees in carpark on a hellaver lean but yeah - it didn't come to much |
| 01:57 |
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| 02:03 |
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chris |
working late wizzyrea_ ? |
| 02:03 |
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wizzyrea_ |
no sir this is purely recreation :) |
| 02:03 |
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chris |
:) |
| 02:04 |
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wizzyrea_ |
NEKLS has a retreat every year called NEST, and it's basically a bunch of librarians taking over a bed and breakfast |
| 02:04 |
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chris |
oh yeah? |
| 02:04 |
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wizzyrea_ |
that's where I am |
| 02:04 |
|
wizzyrea_ |
yea |
| 02:04 |
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chris |
oh cool |
| 02:05 |
|
wizzyrea_ |
half the time I was on my new phone today. :D |
| 02:05 |
|
chris |
i noticed! |
| 02:05 |
|
chris |
:) |
| 02:05 |
|
chris |
larsw bought a nexus one |
| 02:06 |
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wizzyrea_ |
ooooh |
| 02:06 |
|
chris |
robin has one, i have a milestone, read has some android one, alan has a nexus one |
| 02:06 |
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chris |
its all android all the time in #koha |
| 02:06 |
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wizzyrea_ |
I have a galaxy :) |
| 02:07 |
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robin |
I think someone here has one of them too |
| 02:07 |
|
wizzyrea_ |
well, an att captivate, if you want to get technical |
| 02:07 |
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robin |
I should have a look at it |
| 02:07 |
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chris |
whats darling's one? |
| 02:07 |
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robin |
an LG something-or-other |
| 02:07 |
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wizzyrea_ |
http://www.wireless.att.com/ce[…]&q_sku=sku4760319 |
| 02:07 |
|
wizzyrea_ |
is what I have |
| 02:07 |
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chris |
and what the hell is tim building???!?? |
| 02:08 |
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robin |
I don't know. I really don't. |
| 02:08 |
|
* chris |
gets distracted by rl |
| 02:08 |
|
wizzyrea_ |
11 |
| 02:08 |
|
wizzyrea_ |
!! |
| 02:09 |
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chris |
oh yeah, ive heard good things about the galaxy |
| 02:09 |
|
wizzyrea_ |
I lurve mine |
| 02:09 |
|
wizzyrea_ |
I've had it... a week and the only thing I'm really missing is netflix |
| 02:09 |
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robin |
wizzyrea_: what Android version? |
| 02:10 |
|
wizzyrea_ |
2.1 I think |
| 02:10 |
|
wizzyrea_ |
I think it *can* do 2.2 |
| 02:10 |
|
wizzyrea_ |
but att are silly heads |
| 02:10 |
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robin |
ah, if you like it now, you'll really like 2.2 |
| 02:10 |
|
wizzyrea_ |
I'm hyped for the galaxy ta |
| 02:11 |
|
wizzyrea_ |
tab |
| 02:11 |
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wizzyrea_ |
if it's half as good as the phone version it'll be a great competitor for the ipad |
| 02:12 |
|
wizzyrea_ |
overall I think it's better than my iphone. and i loved my iphone. |
| 02:13 |
|
wizzyrea_ |
though I got really confused the first time it rang... I coulnd't figure out how to answer it |
| 02:13 |
|
wizzyrea_ |
hehe |
| 02:13 |
|
chris |
i still dont know |
| 02:13 |
|
chris |
if they really want to talk, they'll email |
| 02:14 |
|
chris |
:) |
| 02:14 |
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wizzyrea_ |
hahahaha |
| 02:14 |
|
wizzyrea_ |
you use yours like I use mine, it's your mobile pocket communicator thingie |
| 02:14 |
|
wizzyrea_ |
not so much a phone |
| 02:14 |
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chris |
yeah, i very rarely make or get calls on it |
| 02:18 |
|
wizzyrea_ |
ooh |
| 02:18 |
|
wizzyrea_ |
http://mashable.com/2010/09/16[…]shable+(Mashable) |
| 02:18 |
|
chris |
cool |
| 02:25 |
|
darling |
robin, lg gt540 |
| 02:25 |
|
chris |
oh crap |
| 02:25 |
|
darling |
? |
| 02:25 |
|
chris |
i still havent tested your app darling |
| 02:25 |
|
darling |
heh |
| 02:25 |
|
darling |
it works |
| 02:25 |
|
chris |
lemme do my timesheet and ill have a look |
| 02:26 |
|
darling |
i still need to embed the markup for koha pages |
| 02:26 |
|
chris |
i have a bunch of library cards here |
| 02:36 |
|
jo |
ooohhh |
| 02:36 |
|
jo |
huge thunder |
| 02:36 |
|
jo |
and lightening and torrential rain |
| 02:37 |
|
jo |
and hail! |
| 02:38 |
|
chris |
oh we never got the hail |
| 02:38 |
|
chris |
oh i have a plan |
| 02:38 |
|
jo |
by crikey - its all on |
| 02:38 |
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robin |
<jo> warm, blue skys and light breeze in Horowhenua |
| 02:38 |
|
robin |
<jo> get that in paradise I spose ... |
| 02:38 |
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robin |
;) |
| 02:38 |
|
chris |
to fulfil it will need an HLT library card |
| 02:38 |
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jo |
lol |
| 02:38 |
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robin |
It looks nice outside here now |
| 02:38 |
|
jo |
I'll amend that to "tropical paradise" |
| 02:38 |
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robin |
haha |
| 02:43 |
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chris |
darling: it does work :) |
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Amit |
heya chris |
| 03:18 |
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chris |
heya Amit |
| 03:42 |
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robin |
chris: a flagpole with a pirate flag to attach to it is your answer. |
| 03:43 |
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chris |
? |
| 03:43 |
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robin |
to what Tim is building |
| 03:48 |
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chris |
ahhh |
| 03:48 |
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chris |
for sunday |
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ivanc |
hi #koha |
| 06:50 |
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hdl |
hi ivanc |
| 06:50 |
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ivanc |
hi hdl |
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kf |
morning #koha .) |
| 07:00 |
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ivanc |
guten morger kf |
| 07:00 |
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kf |
h ivanc |
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kf |
how did your presentation go? |
| 07:02 |
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ivanc |
kf good |
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ivanc |
the first step is done |
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kf |
ok, working on my next presentation now |
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Ata |
hi all |
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Ata |
is there some meeting in progress? |
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Amit |
hi ATA |
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Ata |
hit Amit |
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mib_vr22g |
Can anyone direct me at a how-to for git with Koha? I am unsure how it works exactly and have a few questiosn, e.g. Can you use git to just update individual files or must you update the whole system etc.. |
| 10:39 |
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Braedon |
basic info http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]ol_for_the_public |
| 10:39 |
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Braedon |
other sections of that page have more detailed info |
| 10:41 |
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mib_vr22g |
Thanks.....I will have a gander |
| 10:41 |
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Braedon |
generally a bad idea to merge in single files |
| 10:41 |
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Braedon |
what specifically are you wanting to do that for? |
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mib_vr22g |
There is some added features, specifically the SQL reports that I would like to add without upgrading......bad idea? |
| 10:43 |
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Braedon |
yeah, can easily cause problems |
| 10:44 |
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Braedon |
if you can isolate the commits that put in the features, you could potentially cherry pick them |
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Braedon |
better than trying to do files individually, but still very risky |
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Braedon |
http://www.kernel.org/pub/soft[…]-cherry-pick.html |
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mib_vr22g |
ummm, OK.....I'll give it a good read before I go ahead with it...... |
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Braedon |
using git, you can of course always revert any changes you make, but you will definitely need careful testing before putting it into production |
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Braedon |
some else here or on the mailing list more knowledgeable about the specifics of the report system than I may be able to help you with what commits you will need, and what issues you could get |
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mib_vr22g |
Thanks....I'll ask again later and maybe post to the mailing list |
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owen |
The evening excitement around here: http://www.thepost.ohiou.edu/m[…]1&ArticleID=32272 |
| 12:55 |
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druthb |
mornin'. |
| 12:56 |
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druthb |
looks like an exciting night, owen |
| 12:59 |
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owen |
No power at my house 'til Sunday, they're saying. Power out at three libraries. |
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druthb |
Good to see there weren't more injuries. |
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jcamins |
Good morning. |
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jcamins |
owen: scary! |
| 13:06 |
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owen |
Very unusual for this area |
| 13:11 |
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* owen |
reads the backlog for PTFS gossip |
| 13:21 |
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jcamins |
Does anyone else ever feel staggered and overwhelmed when they try and document what they do? |
| 13:21 |
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owen |
jcamins: You mean like your job description? |
| 13:22 |
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jcamins |
Or documentation for in case you are hit by a bus. |
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jcamins |
I find myself more and more feeling like I _have_ been hit by a bus. ;) |
| 13:23 |
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jcamins |
Good morning, sekjal. |
| 13:24 |
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sekjal |
morning, jcamins. sorry to hear about the bus |
| 13:24 |
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jcamins |
Heh. I'm documenting my job. |
| 13:25 |
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jcamins |
It turns out I do a whole lot more than I had ever taken the time to think about. |
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kf |
jcamisn: yep |
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kf |
jcamins: I try to write down all the things I kow about koha for my coworkers. |
| 13:26 |
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owen |
jcamins: What I worry about is the crappy spaghetti code I'll leave behind if I get hit by a bus (or a tornado, as seems more likely now) |
| 13:26 |
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kf |
things like how to configure fines and notices, what to do when... what if... |
| 13:28 |
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jcamins |
On the one hand, it's gratifying that I know so much. On the other hand, aaaaaahhhh!!!! ;) |
| 13:29 |
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owen |
Job security! |
| 13:29 |
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jcamins |
owen: perhaps we should update the traditional advice from "always wear a clean pair of underwear" to "always wear a clean pair of underwear and provide a test case"? |
| 13:29 |
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owen |
And an index card with all the passwords. |
| 13:30 |
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jcamins |
I think I used the same password for everything work-related. |
| 13:30 |
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sekjal |
found a similar bug to 5222: apparently, the 630$p isn't displaying in with XSLT on |
| 13:31 |
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jcamins |
We also don't display field 351. |
| 13:32 |
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jcamins |
And our display of the notes used by MARC-AMC leaves something to be desired. |
| 13:32 |
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sekjal |
we should really make the XSLT's user-editable through the GUI, so every library can adjust to their hearts desire |
| 13:32 |
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* owen |
imagines a system which would let admins check off which fields they want and have Koha write a custom XSL file |
| 13:32 |
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jcamins |
Yes! |
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jcamins |
sekjal++ |
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sekjal |
what about using the MARC frameworks? |
| 13:32 |
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jcamins |
owen++ ++ |
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jcamins |
I think they'd need an overhaul, first. |
| 13:33 |
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sekjal |
a nicer editor, surely |
| 13:33 |
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owen |
Even better, have Koha use a different XSL file based on itemtype/ccode |
| 13:33 |
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jcamins |
Indicators can significantly change the meaning of a field. |
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jcamins |
(and there's no way to specify them in a framework) |
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sekjal |
right |
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sekjal |
I remember bumping up against them when doing MeSH at my previous institution |
| 13:34 |
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sekjal |
we wanted to treat MeSH and LCSH differently, but the only difference was the second indicator |
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* druthb |
waves to wizzyrea_ |
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wizzyrea_ |
heya ppls |
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jcamins |
Hello! |
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* wizzyrea_ |
waves at druthb |
| 14:01 |
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jcamins |
wizzyrea_: still on your mobile communications device? |
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wizzyrea_ |
not at the moment |
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wizzyrea_ |
(hehe that you called it that, you must have read the backlog) |
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jcamins |
Every morning. :) |
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owen |
wizzyrea_: We got some down-home Kansas weather last night: http://www.thepost.ohiou.edu/m[…]1&ArticleID=32272 |
| 14:08 |
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wizzyrea_ |
whoa! |
| 14:09 |
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wizzyrea_ |
oh that's familiar, trailers all on their tops |
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owen |
They're tornado magnets |
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jcamins |
Familiar? Yikes! Maybe Huffnpuff isn't enough to convince me to move to Kansas after all. ;) |
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wizzyrea_ |
wow, is your family/house/property ok? |
| 14:10 |
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wizzyrea_ |
in that order? |
| 14:10 |
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wizzyrea_ |
you know what |
| 14:10 |
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wizzyrea_ |
hurricanes are huge |
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owen |
All we had was heavy rain and no power (til Sunday they say). |
| 14:10 |
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wizzyrea_ |
tornadoes are small |
| 14:10 |
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wizzyrea_ |
:P |
| 14:11 |
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wizzyrea_ |
my point being, it's pretty unlikely, even in kansas, that you'll actually get hit by a tornado |
| 14:11 |
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wizzyrea_ |
scares, sure. |
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owen |
Hi mparker |
| 14:23 |
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owen |
jwagner: I see you posted some comments on Bug 2560. Do you know if anything more happened with it? |
| 14:23 |
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munin |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=2560 major, P3, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, Advanced search on Language (from pulldown) does not work |
| 14:23 |
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mparker |
Good Morning (still collection information before i ask my question) |
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kf |
owen++ for looking at old bugs |
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* chris_n |
doesn't like the mile-wide tornadoes of the mid-western sort |
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owen |
I wish Bugzilla offered search term highlighting on its bug search results. |
| 14:28 |
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jwagner |
owen, sorry, was working on something. No, I don't know if anyone else has looked at 2560. |
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* owen |
bumps the bug up to 3_4 |
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jcamins |
What does KSF mean? |
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sekjal |
Koha Software Foundation, I assume |
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jcamins |
Oh. |
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jcamins |
Right. |
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jcamins |
Silly question, sorry. |
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owen |
A hypothetical entity |
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jcamins |
Right. |
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CGI086 |
please, I need help. I'm cataloging in Koha 3.06, How I validate a field? , for example when I complete the Marc tag 082, how to see the index of call numbers for not to wright te same? |
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jcamins |
CGI086: so far as I know, you cannot. |
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owen |
Sounds like a good use of a "plugin," as they're called in the case of the MARC editor. But I don't think one exists yet |
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jcamins |
You can search in your catalog for the call number you want to assign. |
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CGI086 |
Ok, thanks. Another question, if I delete a bibliographic record, after, it is posible to re-use that system number? |
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sekjal |
CGI086: if you delete it from the staff client, no, that system number is preserved in the deletedbiblios table |
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kf |
has someone experience with the marc export tool? |
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kf |
I got an empty file when I tried to export some records by accession date |
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owen |
kf: I've used that option with success recently in our production system, but it's a little behind HEAD |
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* owen |
will test |
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jcamins |
kf: we had a lot of trouble with exporting. Probably operator error, but I don't think we ever managed to actually persuade any subset of our records to export. |
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kf |
thx owen, I tried start and date tody, and from yesterday to tomorrow |
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owen |
Yeah kf, it's working for me in my up-to-date test install |
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kf |
owen: my records are freshly cataloged, but I can search for them. I added a footnote too and searched for that now, added to card, send card - marc files. but still wondering about the export |
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kf |
thx, will test at home again, this installation is not up to date, a little bit behind |
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kf |
card = cart... time to leave fort eh weekend |
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kf |
but wanted to take my test records with me - now I can :) |
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kf |
bye all! |
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chris_n |
bye kf |
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CGI086 |
I'm again, thanks all. Another question. Wuen |
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owen |
Language search limiting is working fine for me. Looks to me like Bug 2560 can be marked fixed. |
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munin |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=2560 major, P3, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, Advanced search on Language (from pulldown) does not work |
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jwagner |
owen, I see a language entry in the staff adv search pulldown |
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owen |
jwagner: But not a dedicated language menu like the other subtype limits |
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owen |
jwagner: Were you testing Bug 2560 with the pulldown Language option that is there? |
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jwagner |
Yes |
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owen |
Ah, so that's why I'm not seeing the problem. |
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jwagner |
The pulldown sends ln,wrdl: as the index which wasn't working. |
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owen |
Is there a reason to use that method rather than the dedicated language chooser (in the opac at least) ? |
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jwagner |
Not sure -- can't remember which site reported this & if that option was available then. |
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jwagner |
Rereading my entry in the bug report, it looks like the separate language search was working fine -- it was the pulldown that wasn't. |
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owen |
Oh right, sorry I didn't see that |
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jwagner |
And if you turned off QueryWeightFields, then the pulldown worked. |
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owen |
Okay, still broken then. Thanks for the clarification. |
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owen |
Oh, and the language limiter only shows up in the staff client with "extended options" |
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* owen |
is chasing red herrings all over the place |
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* jwagner |
sends owen a herring net |
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owen |
They say we should eat more herring. |
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jwagner |
lutefisk? |
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owen |
Okay, I just can't seem to let this go |
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owen |
I tried it doing a search using the "Language:" option at the top, searched for "spa", and got the exact same results as when using the dedicated language chooser |
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owen |
And in the OPAC I don't even see the option of choosing "language" from the dropdown at the top |
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jwagner |
Yes, one of our sites has recently asked us about adding Language to the OPAC pulldowns |
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owen |
jwagner: I'd be curious why they don't use the dedicated language chooser. Are the languages they want to search not there? Do they not know it exists? |
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jwagner |
It seems to be working now in current head -- something must have gotten fixed along the way |
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jwagner |
owen, it's one of several changes they're asking about. Need to clarify what they actually want.... |
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* owen |
discovers that the language search option we're talking about was removed from the OPAC in 2009 in favor of the dedicated language-picker |
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jcamins |
Um, why would a different set of options show up on the advanced search screen on one computer than on another? |
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owen |
Ghosts. |
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druthb |
Pixies. |
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jcamins |
Wait, maybe I was looking at the staff interface on the other computer. |
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sekjal |
fun new bug: if you have more than 20 public lists, the ones in excess of that won't display the List's name properly |
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sekjal |
or, rather, at all |
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nengard |
sekjal - don't think it's new :) that sounds familiar |
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nengard |
off to find the bug report |
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sekjal |
thanks, nengard; I was just about to start a search, myself |
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nengard |
well i'm sure you're fresher than me - what a travel nightmare :( but I am finally home |
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sekjal |
yay for being home! |
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owen |
sekjal: The limit is hard-coded. There is a bug report somewhere. |
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sekjal |
I'll find it at patch it. looks like a straightforward enough fix |
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owen |
In fact there was some discussion fairly recently, but I can't remember if it was on IRC or in the bug or what |
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nengard |
bug 3523 sounds related |
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munin |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3523 normal, P5, ---, cnighswonger, NEW, Menu of existing lists limited to 10 |
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owen |
Yeah, is that what you're seeing sekjal, or something different? |
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sekjal |
something different |
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sekjal |
when viewing a List, in either the OPAC or the staff client, for some Lists, the title is absent |
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sekjal |
title of the list, that is |
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cait |
hi #koha |
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sekjal |
In the OPAC, you see Lists ---> <em>List Name</em> normally |
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sekjal |
but if this is the 21st or greater Public List, the List Name is missing |
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sekjal |
(21st or greater when sorted by shelfnumber ascending) |
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jcamins |
Yay! I successfully added "Auction date" to the staff search. |
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sekjal |
wehoo! |
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owen |
What a strange bug sekjal |
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* owen |
had only added sixteen lists to test bug 3523 :P |
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munin |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3523 normal, P5, ---, cnighswonger, NEW, Menu of existing lists limited to 10 |
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sekjal |
filed bug 5232 for it |
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munin |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5232 normal, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, Shelfname does not display on high numbered lists |
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* jcamins |
feels suddenly dyslexic, looking at 5232 and 3523 |
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sekjal |
okay, got a preliminary patch, now testing |
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sekjal |
looks good |
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jcamins |
Okay, this is really weird. |
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jcamins |
Our logs are wrong. |
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sekjal |
jcamins: how so? |
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jcamins |
The biblios that they report were modified weren't, and the ones that were modified aren't reported. |
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sekjal |
very odd |
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jcamins |
The Info column shows the correct modifications, though. |
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sekjal |
is there the correct number of modifications, can you tell? |
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jcamins |
I think so. |
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jcamins |
I'm not entirely certain, though. |
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jcamins |
I will try modifying things, and see if I can reproduce the problem. |
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jcamins |
The right number of log entries, but I have no idea what it's doing. |
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sekjal |
any chance the biblionumber is being confused with the itemnumber? |
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jcamins |
Yep. |
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jcamins |
That's it. |
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sekjal |
should be an easy fix, then |
| 16:41 |
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jcamins |
When we edit an item, it claims that we edited a biblio and shows just the 952. |
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jcamins |
And, of course, the biblionumber it suggests is completely bizarre. |
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jcamins |
Modifying biblios seems to show up properly. |
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jcamins |
As does adding items. |
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jcamins |
Deleting a biblio results in a broken link, which is kind of silly, but understandable. |
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sekjal |
hmmm |
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jcamins |
I'll create an item and delete it to see what happens. |
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jcamins |
It shows up properly in the log, but the link doesn't go to the record it was deleted from. |
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jcamins |
Which is surely a bug. |
| 16:47 |
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sekjal |
sounds like |
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jcamins |
Instead it goes to a valid-looking page showing an item with no fields filled in, but when you try to go to a view of the biblio, you get an error. |
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owen |
hdl, are you available for a question? |
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hdl |
yes ? |
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owen |
Bug 4048 had been marked as "patch sent" at one point. Is that something Biblibre has in a development branch? |
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munin |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4048 normal, P5, ---, nahuel.angelinetti, NEW, js libs must be outside of translated paths |
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owen |
And are your branches available to view on the web? http://git.biblibre.com doesn't work anymore |
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hdl |
we had a some trouble lately. |
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hdl |
git.biblibre.com should come back next week |
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hdl |
It seems strange that nahuel marked that as patch sent if he sent no patches for that. |
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hdl |
marking it as open is sound to me |
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owen |
hdl: Okay, I was going to try doing some work on it, and I didn't want to duplicate someone else's efforts |
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owen |
My pending patches are combining together to form a hyper-intelligent cyber-being intent on destroying all humans. |
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jcamins |
owen: that doesn't sound good. |
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owen |
Oh, speaking of which: sekjal you were looking for that usetablesforcirc patch again? |
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wizzyrea_ |
owen: omg, koha is becoming sentient? |
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owen |
It sounds good, but I think really it would stop answering questions and go bum around Europe for a while. |
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wizzyrea_ |
:) |
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sekjal |
owen: I was able to get it |
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wizzyrea_ |
*sniff* it's growing up, isn't it |
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chris |
wiki updaed |
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chris |
with foundation/association stuff |
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owen |
chris++ |
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chris |
i knew we had talked about al this before :) |
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wizzyrea_ |
chris++ |
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owen |
Sounded vaguely familiar, eh? |
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wizzyrea_ |
heh |
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chris |
yeah, i remember a vote, and everything |
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jcamins |
chris++ |
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wizzyrea_ |
we had these long meetings... |
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jcamins |
The "Forming a Koha Foundation" page has a really long list of 1s in the middle. |
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chris |
and ppl agreed to transfer assets to HLT, and everyone did |
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owen |
And you were there, and you were there, and you were there! It all seemed so real... |
| 19:26 |
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jcamins |
Is anyone working on that page, or shall I remove them? |
| 19:26 |
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chris |
well everyone except one company |
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chris |
go for it jcamins |
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wizzyrea_ |
owen really did almost get sucked up in a tornado last night |
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chris |
i did realise what annoyed me most |
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wizzyrea_ |
what's that |
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chris |
it was the complete disregard for the past |
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chris |
in the initial mail, and then in those who responded saying, yeah forget the past |
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chris |
and i know why |
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chris |
its what racists say about the treaty of waitangi here in nz too |
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chris |
it probably jarred lenora the same way |
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chris |
took me a while to figure out what it was i actually objected to |
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jcamins |
I can't figure out how to fix it. |
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wizzyrea_ |
I think it's fine that we remember what they did, it's not like they can un-do |
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wizzyrea_ |
they can only try to be better. |
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chris |
not even that |
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chris |
more that we hadnt even considered |
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chris |
and agreed on a course of action |
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wizzyrea_ |
oh, yea, and now they're like HEY, consider US |
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chris |
yeah |
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wizzyrea_ |
erm... |
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wizzyrea_ |
well... |
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chris |
;) |
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chris |
jcamins: ill take a look |
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chris |
wiki syntax is a black art |
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owen |
What bugs me is "We have decided that we shall form a foundation and please let us know if you want in on that." |
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jcamins |
chris: Thanks. |
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owen |
And then we're supposed to fall over ourselves with gratitude. |
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wizzyrea_ |
let me tell you what I am grateful for: |
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wizzyrea_ |
I am grateful that at the very least we're talking about it again. |
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wizzyrea_ |
because I think that's good. |
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wizzyrea_ |
and I am grateful that there will be many smart people considering the options |
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owen |
Very true. It's possible that this will actually lead to an agreement that everyone is happy with. |
| 19:33 |
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owen |
I *still* think there are conditions that we don't know about yet |
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wizzyrea_ |
I think you're probably right about that |
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chris |
hows that now jcamins |
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jcamins |
Much better, thanks! |
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chris |
cool |
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chris |
so now, we just wait for the ptfs proposal |
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chris |
and we can whack it into the matrix along with all the rest |
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jcamins |
Hopefully they'll post it soon. :) |
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sekjal |
have a great weekend, #koha! |
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chris_n |
chris++ #for getting things off to a start on the wiki |
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wizzyrea_ |
and jcamins! |
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wizzyrea_ |
jcamins++ |
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jcamins |
Just pointing out that I can't offer my opinion if I don't know what everyone's talking about. :) |
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chris |
:) |
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* chris_n |
seems to remember being here once before |
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jcamins |
I actually wasn't, so I'm not ignoring the past. ;) |
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* chris_n |
tries to shake himself awake... only to find he already is awake |
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chris |
put it on the wiki |
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chris |
is my new |
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chris |
"send a patch": |
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chris_n |
ahh... jim provides more wiki fodder |
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chris |
yeah i replied saying put it on the wiki |
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chris_n |
that's probably the most informative post I've seen in this entire thread(s) |
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wizzyrea_ |
he actually does have quite a bit of very recent experience with forming a 501c3 foundation, as he just spearheaded creating the NEKLS foundation :) |
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chris_n |
its very nice to have that sort of experience/expertise on board imho |
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chris |
yup |
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chris_n |
I'd like to see similar information from other countries as well |
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chris |
there is a bit about nz already |
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chris |
http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]ation#New_Zealand |
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chris |
jims stuff should go under |
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wizzyrea_ |
< personally would probably rather see it in another country, on principle |
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chris |
http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]ion#United_States |
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chris |
*nod* |
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jcamins |
Having just established a regular, for-profit LLC, I have to say that I think Jim is undervaluing his understanding of forming non-profits. |
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* jcamins |
would agree with wizzyrea |
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* chris_n |
is a fan of HTL |
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chris |
the more i think about tit |
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chris |
it |
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chris |
lol |
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wizzyrea_ |
lol |
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wizzyrea_ |
best typo ever. |
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chris |
the more i think about it, the more i like SPI, or just leaving it with HLT |
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chris |
since they both already exist |
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* owen |
finds that this discussion always makes him want to defer to someone smarter |
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wizzyrea_ |
this and the licensing discussion |
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chris |
im all about SEP |
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schuster |
Yep I agree with owen and wizzyrea |
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* chris_n |
keeps waiting for thd-away to fire his guns |
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chris |
id like to just write some code |
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* brendan |
finds he's leaning more and more towards SPI or something similar |
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chris |
HLT exist, covered by super strong laws and auditors and are outside us legal jurisdiction |
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chris |
which is 3 wins in my book |
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owen |
"neener-neener-neener" |
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chris |
:) |
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jcamins |
What's SEP? |
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owen |
Given past history I would be surprised if PTFS was willing to go agree to HLT |
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chris |
Someone Elses Problem |
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jcamins |
Ah. |
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chris |
yeah, for that i lean to SPI |
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chris |
as a compromise position |
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owen |
chris I thought you had said Software Freedom Conservancy |
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chris |
yeah i change my mind daily |
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* owen |
doesn't know what SPI is |
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chris |
spi seems a little more democratic |
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chris_n |
heh |
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chris |
http://spi-inc.org/ |
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* owen |
liked the SFC member list at least |
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chris |
they look after stuff for debian |
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* chris_n |
heads for home |
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chris |
and drupal and openoffice etc |
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chris |
http://www.spi-inc.org/projects |
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chris |
oh and postgres |
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owen |
I guess using Drupal for their site was a conflict of interest, hence Plone :) |
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wizzyrea_ |
that's like getting in the deep end of the pool. I like it |
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chris |
chris_n: http://blog.bigballofwax.co.nz[…]g-and-short-term/ |
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owen |
I'm off. Have a great weekend everyone |
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wizzyrea_ |
bye owen |
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wizzyrea_ |
have a great weekend |
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CGI244 |
Hey everyone, I'm having trouble with the OPAC giving "No results match your search" for every search query while the staff client has no problem. I have googled this problem and tried everything I found (hiding lost items is not enabled, and neither is suppression) but to no avail. I'm running a fresh install of Koha "Harley". Any suggestions for what to try or check next? |
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wizzyrea_ |
http://koha-community.org/docu[…]on/faq/searching/ |
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wizzyrea_ |
though you're not really running koha. the harley is a proprietary fork of koha |
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wizzyrea_ |
it's easy to be confused |
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CGI244 |
Ok...I've tried all of those suggestions... |
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CGI244 |
Any thing else I can check? |
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wizzyrea_ |
sorry, the harley people will have to help you with that and they're not around. :( |
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CGI244 |
Gotcha, thanks! |
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wizzyrea_ |
oof |
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brendan |
later all - have a great weekend :) |
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