Time Nick Message 23:25 brendan later all - have a great weekend :) 22:48 wizzyrea_ oof 22:48 chris_n [off] man, its bad when your motorcycle won't start... especially when its the weekend... :-) 22:31 CGI244 Gotcha, thanks! 22:31 wizzyrea_ sorry, the harley people will have to help you with that and they're not around. :( 22:03 CGI244 Any thing else I can check? 21:52 CGI244 Ok...I've tried all of those suggestions... 21:51 wizzyrea_ it's easy to be confused 21:51 wizzyrea_ though you're not really running koha. the harley is a proprietary fork of koha 21:50 wizzyrea_ http://koha-community.org/documentation/faq/searching/ 21:49 CGI244 Hey everyone, I'm having trouble with the OPAC giving "No results match your search" for every search query while the staff client has no problem. I have googled this problem and tried everything I found (hiding lost items is not enabled, and neither is suppression) but to no avail. I'm running a fresh install of Koha "Harley". Any suggestions for what to try or check next? 20:26 wizzyrea_ have a great weekend 20:25 wizzyrea_ bye owen 20:25 owen I'm off. Have a great weekend everyone 20:20 chris chris_n: http://blog.bigballofwax.co.nz/2010/05/16/looking-out-for-your-clients-long-and-short-term/ 20:20 wizzyrea_ that's like getting in the deep end of the pool. I like it 20:20 owen I guess using Drupal for their site was a conflict of interest, hence Plone :) 20:19 chris oh and postgres 20:19 chris http://www.spi-inc.org/projects 20:19 chris and drupal and openoffice etc 20:19 * chris_n heads for home 20:18 chris they look after stuff for debian 20:18 * owen liked the SFC member list at least 20:18 chris http://spi-inc.org/ 20:18 chris_n heh 20:18 chris spi seems a little more democratic 20:18 * owen doesn't know what SPI is 20:18 chris yeah i change my mind daily 20:17 owen chris I thought you had said Software Freedom Conservancy 20:15 chris as a compromise position 20:15 chris yeah, for that i lean to SPI 20:14 jcamins Ah. 20:14 chris Someone Elses Problem 20:14 owen Given past history I would be surprised if PTFS was willing to go agree to HLT 20:14 jcamins What's SEP? 20:13 chris :) 20:13 owen "neener-neener-neener" 20:13 chris which is 3 wins in my book 20:13 chris HLT exist, covered by super strong laws and auditors and are outside us legal jurisdiction 20:13 * brendan finds he's leaning more and more towards SPI or something similar 20:12 chris id like to just write some code 20:12 * chris_n keeps waiting for thd-away to fire his guns 20:12 schuster Yep I agree with owen and wizzyrea 20:12 chris im all about SEP 20:12 wizzyrea_ this and the licensing discussion 20:11 * owen finds that this discussion always makes him want to defer to someone smarter 20:11 chris since they both already exist 20:11 chris the more i think about it, the more i like SPI, or just leaving it with HLT 20:10 wizzyrea_ best typo ever. 20:10 wizzyrea_ lol 20:10 chris lol 20:10 chris it 20:10 chris the more i think about tit 20:10 * chris_n is a fan of HTL 20:10 * jcamins would agree with wizzyrea 20:09 jcamins Having just established a regular, for-profit LLC, I have to say that I think Jim is undervaluing his understanding of forming non-profits. 20:09 chris *nod* 20:09 chris http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Forming_a_Koha_Foundation#United_States 20:08 wizzyrea_ < personally would probably rather see it in another country, on principle 20:08 chris jims stuff should go under 20:08 chris http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Forming_a_Koha_Foundation#New_Zealand 20:08 chris there is a bit about nz already 20:07 chris_n I'd like to see similar information from other countries as well 20:07 chris yup 20:07 chris_n its very nice to have that sort of experience/expertise on board imho 20:06 wizzyrea_ he actually does have quite a bit of very recent experience with forming a 501c3 foundation, as he just spearheaded creating the NEKLS foundation :) 20:06 chris_n that's probably the most informative post I've seen in this entire thread(s) 20:06 chris yeah i replied saying put it on the wiki 20:06 chris_n ahh... jim provides more wiki fodder 20:04 chris "send a patch": 20:04 chris is my new 20:04 chris put it on the wiki 20:03 * chris_n tries to shake himself awake... only to find he already is awake 20:03 jcamins I actually wasn't, so I'm not ignoring the past. ;) 20:02 * chris_n seems to remember being here once before 20:02 chris :) 20:01 jcamins Just pointing out that I can't offer my opinion if I don't know what everyone's talking about. :) 20:01 wizzyrea_ jcamins++ 20:01 wizzyrea_ and jcamins! 20:01 chris_n chris++ #for getting things off to a start on the wiki 19:43 sekjal have a great weekend, #koha! 19:38 jcamins Hopefully they'll post it soon. :) 19:36 chris and we can whack it into the matrix along with all the rest 19:36 chris so now, we just wait for the ptfs proposal 19:36 chris cool 19:35 jcamins Much better, thanks! 19:35 chris hows that now jcamins 19:33 wizzyrea_ I think you're probably right about that 19:33 owen I *still* think there are conditions that we don't know about yet 19:33 owen Very true. It's possible that this will actually lead to an agreement that everyone is happy with. 19:32 wizzyrea_ and I am grateful that there will be many smart people considering the options 19:32 wizzyrea_ because I think that's good. 19:32 wizzyrea_ I am grateful that at the very least we're talking about it again. 19:31 wizzyrea_ let me tell you what I am grateful for: 19:31 owen And then we're supposed to fall over ourselves with gratitude. 19:30 jcamins chris: Thanks. 19:30 owen What bugs me is "We have decided that we shall form a foundation and please let us know if you want in on that." 19:30 chris wiki syntax is a black art 19:29 chris jcamins: ill take a look 19:29 chris ;) 19:29 wizzyrea_ well... 19:29 wizzyrea_ erm... 19:29 chris yeah 19:29 wizzyrea_ oh, yea, and now they're like HEY, consider US 19:29 chris and agreed on a course of action 19:29 chris more that we hadnt even considered 19:29 chris not even that 19:28 wizzyrea_ they can only try to be better. 19:28 wizzyrea_ I think it's fine that we remember what they did, it's not like they can un-do 19:28 jcamins I can't figure out how to fix it. 19:28 chris took me a while to figure out what it was i actually objected to 19:28 chris it probably jarred lenora the same way 19:27 chris its what racists say about the treaty of waitangi here in nz too 19:27 chris and i know why 19:27 chris in the initial mail, and then in those who responded saying, yeah forget the past 19:27 chris it was the complete disregard for the past 19:26 wizzyrea_ what's that 19:26 chris i did realise what annoyed me most 19:26 wizzyrea_ owen really did almost get sucked up in a tornado last night 19:26 chris go for it jcamins 19:26 chris well everyone except one company 19:26 jcamins Is anyone working on that page, or shall I remove them? 19:26 owen And you were there, and you were there, and you were there! It all seemed so real... 19:26 chris and ppl agreed to transfer assets to HLT, and everyone did 19:25 jcamins The "Forming a Koha Foundation" page has a really long list of 1s in the middle. 19:25 wizzyrea_ we had these long meetings... 19:25 jcamins chris++ 19:24 chris yeah, i remember a vote, and everything 19:24 wizzyrea_ heh 19:24 owen Sounded vaguely familiar, eh? 19:24 wizzyrea_ chris++ 19:24 chris i knew we had talked about al this before :) 19:24 owen chris++ 19:24 chris with foundation/association stuff 19:23 chris wiki updaed 19:21 wizzyrea_ *sniff* it's growing up, isn't it 19:21 sekjal owen: I was able to get it 19:21 wizzyrea_ :) 19:21 owen It sounds good, but I think really it would stop answering questions and go bum around Europe for a while. 19:20 wizzyrea_ owen: omg, koha is becoming sentient? 19:19 owen Oh, speaking of which: sekjal you were looking for that usetablesforcirc patch again? 19:19 jcamins owen: that doesn't sound good. 19:18 owen My pending patches are combining together to form a hyper-intelligent cyber-being intent on destroying all humans. 17:34 owen hdl: Okay, I was going to try doing some work on it, and I didn't want to duplicate someone else's efforts 17:34 hdl marking it as open is sound to me 17:34 hdl It seems strange that nahuel marked that as patch sent if he sent no patches for that. 17:31 hdl git.biblibre.com should come back next week 17:31 hdl we had a some trouble lately. 17:30 owen And are your branches available to view on the web? http://git.biblibre.com doesn't work anymore 17:30 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4048 normal, P5, ---, nahuel.angelinetti, NEW, js libs must be outside of translated paths 17:30 owen Bug 4048 had been marked as "patch sent" at one point. Is that something Biblibre has in a development branch? 17:29 hdl yes ? 17:29 owen hdl, are you available for a question? 16:48 jcamins Instead it goes to a valid-looking page showing an item with no fields filled in, but when you try to go to a view of the biblio, you get an error. 16:47 sekjal sounds like 16:46 jcamins Which is surely a bug. 16:46 jcamins It shows up properly in the log, but the link doesn't go to the record it was deleted from. 16:45 jcamins I'll create an item and delete it to see what happens. 16:44 sekjal hmmm 16:43 jcamins Deleting a biblio results in a broken link, which is kind of silly, but understandable. 16:42 jcamins As does adding items. 16:42 jcamins Modifying biblios seems to show up properly. 16:41 jcamins And, of course, the biblionumber it suggests is completely bizarre. 16:41 jcamins When we edit an item, it claims that we edited a biblio and shows just the 952. 16:40 sekjal should be an easy fix, then 16:40 jcamins That's it. 16:40 jcamins Yep. 16:40 sekjal any chance the biblionumber is being confused with the itemnumber? 16:40 jcamins The right number of log entries, but I have no idea what it's doing. 16:34 jcamins I will try modifying things, and see if I can reproduce the problem. 16:34 jcamins I'm not entirely certain, though. 16:34 jcamins I think so. 16:33 sekjal is there the correct number of modifications, can you tell? 16:33 jcamins The Info column shows the correct modifications, though. 16:33 sekjal very odd 16:31 jcamins The biblios that they report were modified weren't, and the ones that were modified aren't reported. 16:31 sekjal jcamins: how so? 16:30 jcamins Our logs are wrong. 16:30 jcamins Okay, this is really weird. 16:10 sekjal looks good 16:06 sekjal okay, got a preliminary patch, now testing 16:04 * jcamins feels suddenly dyslexic, looking at 5232 and 3523 16:02 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5232 normal, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, Shelfname does not display on high numbered lists 16:02 sekjal filed bug 5232 for it 16:02 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3523 normal, P5, ---, cnighswonger, NEW, Menu of existing lists limited to 10 16:02 * owen had only added sixteen lists to test bug 3523 :P 16:02 owen What a strange bug sekjal 15:58 sekjal wehoo! 15:58 jcamins Yay! I successfully added "Auction date" to the staff search. 15:42 sekjal (21st or greater when sorted by shelfnumber ascending) 15:42 sekjal but if this is the 21st or greater Public List, the List Name is missing 15:41 sekjal In the OPAC, you see Lists ---> <em>List Name</em> normally 15:40 cait hi #koha 15:40 sekjal title of the list, that is 15:40 sekjal when viewing a List, in either the OPAC or the staff client, for some Lists, the title is absent 15:40 sekjal something different 15:38 owen Yeah, is that what you're seeing sekjal, or something different? 15:37 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3523 normal, P5, ---, cnighswonger, NEW, Menu of existing lists limited to 10 15:37 nengard bug 3523 sounds related 15:37 owen In fact there was some discussion fairly recently, but I can't remember if it was on IRC or in the bug or what 15:37 sekjal I'll find it at patch it. looks like a straightforward enough fix 15:37 owen sekjal: The limit is hard-coded. There is a bug report somewhere. 15:36 sekjal yay for being home! 15:35 nengard well i'm sure you're fresher than me - what a travel nightmare :( but I am finally home 15:35 sekjal thanks, nengard; I was just about to start a search, myself 15:35 nengard off to find the bug report 15:35 nengard sekjal - don't think it's new :) that sounds familiar 15:34 sekjal or, rather, at all 15:34 sekjal fun new bug: if you have more than 20 public lists, the ones in excess of that won't display the List's name properly 15:31 jcamins Wait, maybe I was looking at the staff interface on the other computer. 15:31 druthb Pixies. 15:30 owen Ghosts. 15:28 jcamins Um, why would a different set of options show up on the advanced search screen on one computer than on another? 15:26 * owen discovers that the language search option we're talking about was removed from the OPAC in 2009 in favor of the dedicated language-picker 15:22 jwagner owen, it's one of several changes they're asking about. Need to clarify what they actually want.... 15:21 jwagner It seems to be working now in current head -- something must have gotten fixed along the way 15:20 owen jwagner: I'd be curious why they don't use the dedicated language chooser. Are the languages they want to search not there? Do they not know it exists? 15:20 jwagner Yes, one of our sites has recently asked us about adding Language to the OPAC pulldowns 15:17 owen And in the OPAC I don't even see the option of choosing "language" from the dropdown at the top 15:16 owen I tried it doing a search using the "Language:" option at the top, searched for "spa", and got the exact same results as when using the dedicated language chooser 15:15 owen Okay, I just can't seem to let this go 15:13 jwagner lutefisk? 15:13 owen They say we should eat more herring. 15:13 * jwagner sends owen a herring net 15:12 * owen is chasing red herrings all over the place 15:12 owen Oh, and the language limiter only shows up in the staff client with "extended options" 15:10 owen Okay, still broken then. Thanks for the clarification. 15:07 jwagner And if you turned off QueryWeightFields, then the pulldown worked. 15:07 owen Oh right, sorry I didn't see that 15:06 jwagner Rereading my entry in the bug report, it looks like the separate language search was working fine -- it was the pulldown that wasn't. 15:06 jwagner Not sure -- can't remember which site reported this & if that option was available then. 15:05 owen Is there a reason to use that method rather than the dedicated language chooser (in the opac at least) ? 15:04 jwagner The pulldown sends ln,wrdl: as the index which wasn't working. 15:04 owen Ah, so that's why I'm not seeing the problem. 15:04 jwagner Yes 15:03 owen jwagner: Were you testing Bug 2560 with the pulldown Language option that is there? 15:03 owen jwagner: But not a dedicated language menu like the other subtype limits 15:03 jwagner owen, I see a language entry in the staff adv search pulldown 15:01 * owen wonders why there is no language limit option in the staff client advanced search 15:01 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=2560 major, P3, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, Advanced search on Language (from pulldown) does not work 15:00 owen Language search limiting is working fine for me. Looks to me like Bug 2560 can be marked fixed. 14:56 CGI086 I'm again, thanks all. Another question. Wuen 14:55 chris_n bye kf 14:55 kf bye all! 14:55 kf but wanted to take my test records with me - now I can :) 14:53 kf card = cart... time to leave fort eh weekend 14:52 kf thx, will test at home again, this installation is not up to date, a little bit behind 14:52 kf owen: my records are freshly cataloged, but I can search for them. I added a footnote too and searched for that now, added to card, send card - marc files. but still wondering about the export 14:52 owen Yeah kf, it's working for me in my up-to-date test install 14:51 kf thx owen, I tried start and date tody, and from yesterday to tomorrow 14:51 jcamins kf: we had a lot of trouble with exporting. Probably operator error, but I don't think we ever managed to actually persuade any subset of our records to export. 14:50 * owen will test 14:50 owen kf: I've used that option with success recently in our production system, but it's a little behind HEAD 14:49 kf I got an empty file when I tried to export some records by accession date 14:49 kf has someone experience with the marc export tool? 14:47 sekjal CGI086: if you delete it from the staff client, no, that system number is preserved in the deletedbiblios table 14:46 CGI086 Ok, thanks. Another question, if I delete a bibliographic record, after, it is posible to re-use that system number? 14:40 jcamins You can search in your catalog for the call number you want to assign. 14:40 owen Sounds like a good use of a "plugin," as they're called in the case of the MARC editor. But I don't think one exists yet 14:38 jcamins CGI086: so far as I know, you cannot. 14:36 CGI086 please, I need help. I'm cataloging in Koha 3.06, How I validate a field? , for example when I complete the Marc tag 082, how to see the index of call numbers for not to wright te same? 14:33 jcamins Right. 14:33 owen A hypothetical entity 14:33 jcamins Silly question, sorry. 14:33 jcamins Right. 14:33 jcamins Oh. 14:32 sekjal Koha Software Foundation, I assume 14:32 jcamins What does KSF mean? 14:30 * owen bumps the bug up to 3_4 14:28 jwagner owen, sorry, was working on something. No, I don't know if anyone else has looked at 2560. 14:28 owen I wish Bugzilla offered search term highlighting on its bug search results. 14:26 * chris_n doesn't like the mile-wide tornadoes of the mid-western sort 14:24 kf owen++ for looking at old bugs 14:23 mparker Good Morning (still collection information before i ask my question) 14:23 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=2560 major, P3, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, Advanced search on Language (from pulldown) does not work 14:23 owen jwagner: I see you posted some comments on Bug 2560. Do you know if anything more happened with it? 14:19 owen Hi mparker 14:11 wizzyrea_ scares, sure. 14:11 wizzyrea_ my point being, it's pretty unlikely, even in kansas, that you'll actually get hit by a tornado 14:10 wizzyrea_ :P 14:10 wizzyrea_ tornadoes are small 14:10 owen All we had was heavy rain and no power (til Sunday they say). 14:10 wizzyrea_ hurricanes are huge 14:10 wizzyrea_ you know what 14:10 wizzyrea_ in that order? 14:10 wizzyrea_ wow, is your family/house/property ok? 14:10 jcamins Familiar? Yikes! Maybe Huffnpuff isn't enough to convince me to move to Kansas after all. ;) 14:09 owen They're tornado magnets 14:09 wizzyrea_ oh that's familiar, trailers all on their tops 14:08 wizzyrea_ whoa! 14:08 owen wizzyrea_: We got some down-home Kansas weather last night: http://www.thepost.ohiou.edu/main.asp?SectionID=1&SubSectionID=1&ArticleID=32272 14:01 jcamins Every morning. :) 14:01 wizzyrea_ (hehe that you called it that, you must have read the backlog) 14:01 wizzyrea_ not at the moment 14:01 jcamins wizzyrea_: still on your mobile communications device? 13:57 * wizzyrea_ waves at druthb 13:57 jcamins Hello! 13:57 wizzyrea_ heya ppls 13:57 * druthb waves to wizzyrea_ 13:34 sekjal we wanted to treat MeSH and LCSH differently, but the only difference was the second indicator 13:34 sekjal I remember bumping up against them when doing MeSH at my previous institution 13:33 sekjal right 13:33 jcamins (and there's no way to specify them in a framework) 13:33 jcamins Indicators can significantly change the meaning of a field. 13:33 owen Even better, have Koha use a different XSL file based on itemtype/ccode 13:33 sekjal a nicer editor, surely 13:32 jcamins I think they'd need an overhaul, first. 13:32 jcamins owen++ ++ 13:32 sekjal what about using the MARC frameworks? 13:32 jcamins sekjal++ 13:32 jcamins Yes! 13:32 * owen imagines a system which would let admins check off which fields they want and have Koha write a custom XSL file 13:32 sekjal we should really make the XSLT's user-editable through the GUI, so every library can adjust to their hearts desire 13:32 jcamins And our display of the notes used by MARC-AMC leaves something to be desired. 13:31 jcamins We also don't display field 351. 13:30 sekjal found a similar bug to 5222: apparently, the 630$p isn't displaying in with XSLT on 13:30 jcamins I think I used the same password for everything work-related. 13:29 owen And an index card with all the passwords. 13:29 jcamins owen: perhaps we should update the traditional advice from "always wear a clean pair of underwear" to "always wear a clean pair of underwear and provide a test case"? 13:29 owen Job security! 13:28 jcamins On the one hand, it's gratifying that I know so much. On the other hand, aaaaaahhhh!!!! ;) 13:26 kf things like how to configure fines and notices, what to do when... what if... 13:26 owen jcamins: What I worry about is the crappy spaghetti code I'll leave behind if I get hit by a bus (or a tornado, as seems more likely now) 13:25 kf jcamins: I try to write down all the things I kow about koha for my coworkers. 13:25 kf jcamisn: yep 13:25 jcamins It turns out I do a whole lot more than I had ever taken the time to think about. 13:24 jcamins Heh. I'm documenting my job. 13:24 sekjal morning, jcamins. sorry to hear about the bus 13:23 jcamins Good morning, sekjal. 13:23 jcamins I find myself more and more feeling like I _have_ been hit by a bus. ;) 13:22 jcamins Or documentation for in case you are hit by a bus. 13:21 owen jcamins: You mean like your job description? 13:21 jcamins Does anyone else ever feel staggered and overwhelmed when they try and document what they do? 13:11 * owen reads the backlog for PTFS gossip 13:06 owen Very unusual for this area 13:06 jcamins owen: scary! 13:04 jcamins Good morning. 13:00 druthb Good to see there weren't more injuries. 12:59 owen No power at my house 'til Sunday, they're saying. Power out at three libraries. 12:56 druthb looks like an exciting night, owen 12:55 druthb mornin'. 12:55 owen The evening excitement around here: http://www.thepost.ohiou.edu/main.asp?SectionID=1&SubSectionID=1&ArticleID=32272 10:56 mib_vr22g Thanks....I'll ask again later and maybe post to the mailing list 10:50 Braedon some else here or on the mailing list more knowledgeable about the specifics of the report system than I may be able to help you with what commits you will need, and what issues you could get 10:49 Braedon using git, you can of course always revert any changes you make, but you will definitely need careful testing before putting it into production 10:48 mib_vr22g ummm, OK.....I'll give it a good read before I go ahead with it...... 10:45 Braedon http://www.kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-cherry-pick.html 10:44 Braedon better than trying to do files individually, but still very risky 10:44 Braedon if you can isolate the commits that put in the features, you could potentially cherry pick them 10:43 Braedon yeah, can easily cause problems 10:43 mib_vr22g There is some added features, specifically the SQL reports that I would like to add without upgrading......bad idea? 10:41 Braedon what specifically are you wanting to do that for? 10:41 Braedon generally a bad idea to merge in single files 10:41 mib_vr22g Thanks.....I will have a gander 10:39 Braedon other sections of that page have more detailed info 10:39 Braedon basic info http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Version_Control_Using_Git#Koha_Revision_Control_for_the_public 10:30 mib_vr22g Can anyone direct me at a how-to for git with Koha? I am unsure how it works exactly and have a few questiosn, e.g. Can you use git to just update individual files or must you update the whole system etc.. 07:49 Ata hit Amit 07:48 Amit hi ATA 07:46 Ata is there some meeting in progress? 07:46 Ata hi all 07:13 kf ok, working on my next presentation now 07:02 ivanc the first step is done 07:02 ivanc kf good 07:00 kf how did your presentation go? 07:00 kf h ivanc 07:00 ivanc guten morger kf 06:58 kf morning #koha .) 06:50 ivanc hi hdl 06:50 hdl hi ivanc 06:49 ivanc hi #koha 03:48 chris for sunday 03:48 chris ahhh 03:43 robin to what Tim is building 03:43 chris ? 03:42 robin chris: a flagpole with a pirate flag to attach to it is your answer. 03:18 chris heya Amit 03:15 Amit heya chris 02:43 chris darling: it does work :) 02:38 robin haha 02:38 jo I'll amend that to "tropical paradise" 02:38 robin It looks nice outside here now 02:38 jo lol 02:38 chris to fulfil it will need an HLT library card 02:38 robin ;) 02:38 robin <jo> get that in paradise I spose ... 02:38 robin <jo> warm, blue skys and light breeze in Horowhenua 02:38 jo by crikey - its all on 02:38 chris oh i have a plan 02:38 chris oh we never got the hail 02:37 jo and hail! 02:36 jo and lightening and torrential rain 02:36 jo huge thunder 02:36 jo ooohhh 02:26 chris i have a bunch of library cards here 02:26 darling i still need to embed the markup for koha pages 02:25 chris lemme do my timesheet and ill have a look 02:25 darling it works 02:25 darling heh 02:25 chris i still havent tested your app darling 02:25 darling ? 02:25 chris oh crap 02:25 darling robin, lg gt540 02:18 chris cool 02:18 wizzyrea_ http://mashable.com/2010/09/16/samsung-tab-launch-carriers/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed:+Mashable+(Mashable) 02:18 wizzyrea_ ooh 02:14 chris yeah, i very rarely make or get calls on it 02:14 wizzyrea_ not so much a phone 02:14 wizzyrea_ you use yours like I use mine, it's your mobile pocket communicator thingie 02:14 wizzyrea_ hahahaha 02:14 chris :) 02:13 chris if they really want to talk, they'll email 02:13 chris i still dont know 02:13 wizzyrea_ hehe 02:13 wizzyrea_ though I got really confused the first time it rang... I coulnd't figure out how to answer it 02:12 wizzyrea_ overall I think it's better than my iphone. and i loved my iphone. 02:11 wizzyrea_ if it's half as good as the phone version it'll be a great competitor for the ipad 02:11 wizzyrea_ tab 02:10 wizzyrea_ I'm hyped for the galaxy ta 02:10 robin ah, if you like it now, you'll really like 2.2 02:10 wizzyrea_ but att are silly heads 02:10 wizzyrea_ I think it *can* do 2.2 02:10 wizzyrea_ 2.1 I think 02:09 robin wizzyrea_: what Android version? 02:09 wizzyrea_ I've had it... a week and the only thing I'm really missing is netflix 02:09 wizzyrea_ I lurve mine 02:09 chris oh yeah, ive heard good things about the galaxy 02:08 wizzyrea_ !! 02:08 wizzyrea_ 11 02:08 * chris gets distracted by rl 02:08 robin I don't know. I really don't. 02:07 chris and what the hell is tim building???!?? 02:07 wizzyrea_ is what I have 02:07 wizzyrea_ http://www.wireless.att.com/cell-phone-service/cell-phone-details/?device=Samsung+Captivate+-+Black&q_sku=sku4760319 02:07 robin an LG something-or-other 02:07 chris whats darling's one? 02:07 robin I should have a look at it 02:07 wizzyrea_ well, an att captivate, if you want to get technical 02:07 robin I think someone here has one of them too 02:06 wizzyrea_ I have a galaxy :) 02:06 chris its all android all the time in #koha 02:06 chris robin has one, i have a milestone, read has some android one, alan has a nexus one 02:06 wizzyrea_ ooooh 02:05 chris larsw bought a nexus one 02:05 chris :) 02:05 chris i noticed! 02:05 wizzyrea_ half the time I was on my new phone today. :D 02:04 chris oh cool 02:04 wizzyrea_ yea 02:04 wizzyrea_ that's where I am 02:04 chris oh yeah? 02:04 wizzyrea_ NEKLS has a retreat every year called NEST, and it's basically a bunch of librarians taking over a bed and breakfast 02:03 chris :) 02:03 wizzyrea_ no sir this is purely recreation :) 02:03 chris working late wizzyrea_ ? 01:55 jo yeah - well it got awfullt black and cabbage trees in carpark on a hellaver lean but yeah - it didn't come to much 01:22 robin jo: it already appears to have passed by here. A bit anticlimatic really :) 01:21 jo oh and here comes Wellington's storm 01:21 jo goodnight 01:21 chris_n g'night #koha 01:21 chris_n time to hit the hay 00:47 brendan_l I live at UCSB family housing 00:47 brendan_l heh there is a UCSB shirt in that youtube video 00:39 chris k, ill email it 00:39 jo and making stuff up 00:39 jo i'll keep frantically writing 00:39 jo i'll leave it to you if you don't mind 00:39 jo oh cool :) 00:38 chris but its downloading 00:38 chris im going for lunch now 00:38 chris so you could sign up too 00:38 chris yup its downloading now 00:37 * chris signs up 00:37 chris you can download from here if you login 00:36 chris http://vimeo.com/2032854 00:33 jo probably not. I may have to run with a live link 00:32 chris ahh, i may not have an answer by then 00:32 jo thanks ... i need it for tomorrow though .. 00:31 chris emailed them to ask 00:30 jo and that generation is one to be reckoned with - and one that librarians have to be relevant to 00:30 jo druthb: i know ... and while its aimed at USA so relevant for western world in general 00:29 jo thanks Chris 00:29 * chris will email them 00:29 chris gah i hate it when places dont put licensing information in an easy to find place 00:29 druthb awesome video! 00:27 chris yup 00:27 jo that link ok? 00:27 jo yep 00:27 chris (gotta walk the walk if you are gonna talk the talk :)) 00:27 jo thanks 00:26 chris k, will check the license and do that if it allows 00:26 jo that link above 00:26 jo chris: yes please 00:26 jo ye splease 00:26 jo i just know the tech will fail if i rely on a live link 00:26 chris i can grab it for you 00:25 chris if you get stuck 00:25 jo I get tears in my eyes whenever i view this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vknHKTy1MLY&feature=player_embedded 00:25 chris yeah there are a few linux ones that will do it 00:25 jo oh cool - i'll go look thanks. 00:21 druthb RealPlayer SP can do that; there are other alternatives, but I have RealPlayer on my PC anyway, so I use that. 00:20 jo anyone know how to download and save a you tube video to show offline? 00:18 chris heh 00:17 jo get that in paradise I spose ... 00:17 jo warm, blue skys and light breeze in Horowhenua 00:10 druthb it rained a little bit here earlier, too...might storm some tonight, but nothing bad. 00:10 chris hopefully the weather is better hwere you are 00:09 chris wellington is busy being thundered on 00:08 chris heya druthb ;) 00:07 druthb hi. 00:00 robin lightening and thunder and bears, oh my! 00:00 chris heres the storm 00:00 chris whoa