IRC log for #koha, 2010-09-03

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00:50 moo Hey guys, does someone have time to help me with a zebra password prob ?
01:01 moo yay, i figured it out... :-) thanks for your help yesterday chris / wasabi, I stumbled on this post which just helped me debug ;-)[…]ugust/000296.html
01:01 moo later.
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02:15 cait hi #koha
02:15 chris cait??? isnt it like 2am?
02:15 cait 4:16
02:16 cait woke up at 3 and was not able to go back to sleep
02:16 chris thats still way to early
02:16 chris yikes
02:16 cait it is
02:17 richard happy early morning cait
02:18 cait hi richard
02:18 cait perhaps reading my distance study book will help :)
02:18 chris :)
02:19 cait have to finish it until 14th
02:29 cait hmpf. server down.
02:33 chris its sleeping :)
02:34 cait yeah, they do maintenance at this time
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03:22 schuster chris - when I did git branch I see master and *mywork
03:22 chris that means you are on the mywork branch
03:23 schuster ok - so what should I do to get this up to the current head?
03:24 chris current master .. what you do is git fetch
03:24 chris git rebase origin/master
03:24 schuster and it doesn't matter which branch I'm in right?
03:25 chris yes it does
03:25 schuster so which branch do I want to be in when I do that?
03:25 chris depends, i dont know what you use mywork for
03:25 chris id probably do it on master first
03:25 chris git checkout master
03:26 schuster ok - I'm pretty sure there isn't anything in mywork -
03:27 schuster it tells me master is up to date.
03:27 chris you did the fetch and rebase eh?
03:28 schuster no didn't fetch - sorry so I should do that and then rebase ok
03:28 chris yes
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03:30 schuster ok those steps are done things happened so that's it I should be up to date?
03:30 Amit heya chris, schuster
03:30 schuster heya amit...
03:30 chris yup
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03:35 cait @wunder Konstanz
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03:36 munin cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 11.6�C (5:36 AM CEST on September 03, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: 11.0�C. Pressure: 30.04 in 1017.2 hPa (Steady).
03:36 * cait is still awake
03:36 chris yikes!
03:37 chris you are going to fall asleep on your desk
03:37 cait it's friday
03:37 cait can leave earlier today
03:37 chris good :)
03:38 cait :)
03:40 schuster @wunder 75035
03:40 munin schuster: The current temperature in Custer Creek Farms, Frisco, Texas is 22.2�C (10:28 PM CDT on September 02, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 96%. Dew Point: 22.0�C. Pressure: 30.03 in 1016.8 hPa (Rising).
03:41 schuster Thanks chris now off to read about testing...
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04:13 richard who does the editing on the koha-community site - wizzyrea?
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04:27 cait richard - she can edit the site, not sure who else
04:27 richard cool
04:28 richard i'll send her an email
04:28 richard found a bung link
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04:35 cait anyone knows a good xml editor? I need something to check my DTD, XML Schemas, XQuery, XPath homework
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05:50 kf good morning #koha
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06:12 zen hello
06:14 kf hi zen
06:16 zen i am working @branch library and i am installing koha 3.0.06 and i want to integtated my koha with the main library koha
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06:18 kf zen: what do you mean by integrating? a
06:20 zen kf: we use different koha servers when my patrons wants to search data @main library they should have to open the main server
06:21 kf so you don't want to share one catalog?
06:21 zen no,what i want is there any mechansim that i can have a copy of the main library at my koha server.
06:22 kf I am not sure how to do it
06:22 kf perhaps you could use oai
06:22 kf I read some people have done similar things, but we have never done something like that
06:24 zen i try to google it but the most result i have got is integration with SIP something like.
06:25 kf sip is for self checkout
06:25 kf checkout, return, patron info
06:25 kf oai-pmh
06:26 kf or perhaps pazpar2
06:27 kf perhaps you could also do something on mysql level
06:27 kf but what would the copy on your server be good for?
06:28 Amit heya kf
06:29 kf hi Amit
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06:30 zen kf: for example i am working at agriculture library so in my database there is only agriculture bibliographic data when user wants  IT data he should have to open the main koha server.
06:31 kf hm, sounds complicated for the user :)
06:32 kf but why have a copy? can't he acces the main koha server via internet?
06:34 zen it is not a good a solution cause the branch is far 100 mile from main and the interent is not stable,but if i can dump the bibliographic data of the main library the user can easily  get the data.
06:36 kf hm ok, but he will not be able to place holds or see the real availablity
06:38 zen the question is can we integrate (connect) two mysql databases from different koha servers
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06:44 zen kf: is my question isn't clear?
06:45 kf I am perhaps just not the right person to talk to
06:46 zen ok thank you!
06:57 zen bye
06:57 kf bye :)
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07:21 Fred Hello
07:21 kf hi Fred
07:31 chris @wunder wellington, nz
07:31 munin chris: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 8.0�C (7:00 PM NZST on September 03, 2010). Conditions: Rain Showers. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: 6.0�C. Windchill: 2.0�C. Pressure: 29.56 in 1001 hPa (Rising).
07:31 chris s/rain showers/hail/
07:31 kf @wunder Konstanz
07:31 munin kf: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 14.1�C (9:31 AM CEST on September 03, 2010). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 86%. Dew Point: 12.0�C. Pressure: 30.08 in 1018.5 hPa (Steady).
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07:38 chris[…]Con2011_Proposals
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07:40 chris hi magnus
07:41 magnus hi chris
07:46 magnus good to be back after a couple days traveling - sorry to miss the meeting
07:46 chris np, it was a nice short meeting
07:47 magnus yeah, i read the transcript
07:47 kf hi magnus
07:51 magnus guten tag, kf
07:54 magnus chris: i didn't quite catch the situation with the main blocking bug for 3.2 - is there a patch that solves it or is the solution only partial so there has to be more patches for it?
07:57 chris the patch doesnt solve it
07:58 chris colin tested it and it still isnt quite right, its blocking anyone who uses acquisitons from being able to upgrade
07:58 chris i added to the bug how i did it manual
07:58 chris ly
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08:05 chris magnus: did you see[…]n10_Social_Events ?
08:06 magnus yeah, lots of good ideas!
08:07 magnus chris: thanks for putting me right about the blocker
08:07 chris feel free to add any you are thinking of, i thought ppl could use it to plan day trips and things
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09:30 Amit heya chris: Diwali Festival[…]?event_id=5006803
09:31 hdl hi
09:31 hdl hi amit
09:31 Amit hi hdl
09:47 kf hi hdl
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11:28 Amit heya jwagner
11:28 Amit Happy Weekend to all ;)
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11:34 kf hi again #koha
11:34 kf forced_restart--
11:34 kf hdl: around?
11:34 hdl kf: yep
11:34 kf we have a new customer with RFID, they want to use 3M
11:35 kf[…]tization_solution
11:35 hdl work like a charm
11:35 kf great :)
11:35 kf has the universite self check?
11:35 jwagner Hi Amit
11:35 hdl kf: yep
11:35 kf hi jwagner :)
11:35 jwagner Hi kf
11:35 hdl using
11:35 hdl using
11:35 hdl sorry
11:35 kf no problem
11:36 kf we already have one library using rfid
11:36 kf but with another vendor
11:36 kf 3M called and asked about Koha and SIP and I told them there are already other libraries using 3M - no searching for examples
11:36 kf now
11:37 hdl we have many libraries using that atm
11:37 hdl Mines paris-tech  Lyon3 for instance
11:37 kf great, thx
11:37 kf is the old doc still relevant?
11:38 kf[…]sip2-integration?
11:39 hdl yep atz++
11:39 kf cool - thx for your help!
11:39 hdl kf: there is a wrapper for perl -I./ ./ ./SIPServer.xml >~/sip_log.out 2>~/sip_log.err &
11:39 hdl sip_start
11:41 kf ?
11:41 kf sorry, I don't understand
11:42 kf I know about the xml configuration file, but the start/stop/reset things is my coworker's part
11:42 kf :)
11:42 hdl i.e. rather than using perl -I./ ./ ./SIPServer.xml >~/sip_log.out 2>~/sip_log.err &
11:43 hdl use  SIPServer.xml ~/sip_log.out ~/sip_log.err
11:43 kf do yoour libraries renew via sip?
11:43 hdl I think so
11:44 hdl it is also managed and controlled in the 3M configuration interface
11:44 kf hm?
11:44 hdl you can enable it i
11:44 hdl in SIPconfig.xml
11:45 kf ah, I think we did that
11:45 hdl But you also have to  enable that on the selfcheckout engine
11:45 kf but our tests were a bit problematic
11:51 kf ok, thx a lot again :)
11:51 kf today is crazy friday - a lot of phone calls
11:54 kf hdl: are those libraries using "standard" koha, or did you have to change something to make it all work?
11:58 kf nah, I believe it will work - it does for our other library too.
12:08 nengard got a question about issues - i'm looking at data in my system and it looks like once an item is marked lost it is no longer in the issues table or the old_issues table ...does a record of that checkout just disappear?
12:08 hdl kf: it is standard SIP
12:08 hdl service
12:09 kf hdl: great :)
12:09 kf nengard: ouch
12:09 nengard if it disappears - um - yes - ouch
12:10 nengard but does it for others?
12:10 kf sorry, can't test right now
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12:43 nengard does anyone know if there is a way to have today's date print at the top of notices?
12:43 nengard maybe a shortcode we can add to the notice templates?
12:53 nengard okay - a different question - when does the HOLDPLACED notice get sent? Where does this come into play? it's not a choice on enhanced messages
12:55 kf nengard: sys pref
12:55 nengard checking now
12:55 kf nengard: the notice send to the librarian that a hold was placed
12:55 nengard OH RIGHT!!!
12:55 nengard Thank you :)
12:56 kf you are welcome :)
12:56 kf I think it was not really working for a long time and the sample notice is quite new too
12:58 nengard i was blinded by the question i was being asked- which focused on patrons getting the email and forgot to think about the librarian :)
12:59 kf I can totally understand
13:00 kf the date is a good idea too!
13:09 nengard kf - okay found a problem - might have a bug to report
13:09 nengard the customer has shown me that this message is being send to patrons ... not just librarians!!!
13:09 nengard uh oh
13:09 kf *sighs*
13:09 kf today that does not surprise me
13:09 nengard need to poke at this a bit before we report anything, just an fyi for you
13:09 kf thx!
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13:12 jcamins Good morning, #koha
13:15 nengard morning
13:15 nengard - not sure it's good ... finding too many problems this morning :(
13:16 jcamins nengard: I can relate to that. The Department of Corporations misspelled my LLC's name, so I'll probably spend the next month arguing with them over getting it fixed.
13:16 nengard ick!
13:17 nengard mine are all koha issues ...
13:17 nengard i'm signing up for a perl class - but until then there are too many issues i don't know how to troubleshoot :(
13:17 kf oooh
13:17 * kf want a perl class too
13:18 kf never thought about it, strange
13:18 kf nengard: the new issue notifications will work ok after the 2 patches are applied
13:19 nengard cool
13:22 jcamins Cool, I just learned how to find out what Debian package contains a particular file!
13:22 jcamins robin++
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13:30 Genji hiya all. Library/branch groups... what has been implimented? is there a way to search a group, yet?
13:33 nengard there are such things as search groups ...
13:33 nengard i don't know that they work though :)
13:34 Genji yeah.. search groups/ domains.... hmm...
13:40 Genji in code, search groups are 'categories' in
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14:12 kf nengard: have you checked the message queue table for the email address teh mail was sent to?
14:12 kf nengard: I have mails working on my test installation at home, perhaps I can test later
14:12 nengard kf, it's not my server, i'll need to get access
14:13 wizzyrea does anybody know what link Richard was referring to? I don't have any email from him
14:14 kf what did he say?
14:14 wizzyrea richard
14:14 wizzyrea :
14:14 wizzyrea who does the editing on the koha-community site - wizzyrea?
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14:14 wizzyrea [11:28p]
14:14 wizzyrea cait
14:14 wizzyrea :
14:14 wizzyrea richard - she can edit the site, not sure who else
14:14 wizzyrea [11:28p]
14:14 wizzyrea richard
14:14 wizzyrea :
14:14 wizzyrea cool
14:14 wizzyrea [11:28p] richard:
14:14 wizzyrea i'll send her an email
14:14 wizzyrea [11:28p] richard:
14:14 wizzyrea found a bung link
14:14 wizzyrea \
14:14 wizzyrea ouch, sorry
14:19 chris_n lol
14:20 jcamins chris_n: I guess you've been ivvacuated (the opposite of "evacuated") now?
14:21 chris_n actually the evacuations were on the coast
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14:21 chris_n I only evacuated my office at the end of the day yesterday :-)
14:21 jcamins Oh. I thought I had seen something in the scrollback about you evacuating.
14:21 nengard kf confirmed
14:21 * chris_n is glad that monster did what it was supposed to, though
14:21 nengard the message sent only to the library
14:22 chris_n jcamins: nope, I'm 1.5 hours from the coast
14:22 chris_n we just got the outer cloud bands and a little drizzle of rain
14:22 jcamins Good!
14:23 kf nengard: cool :)
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14:45 hudsonbot Starting build 24 for job Koha (previous build: UNSTABLE -- last UNSTABLE #23 17 hr ago)
14:45 kf uh huh
14:45 kf :)
14:47 munin New commit(s) kohagit: Merge branch 'translation' of git:// into to-push <[…]8820481b16d62cb4a> / Lots of lanugage updates <[…]7cb777e5e4f31011f> / Finished EN-NZ <[…]7cc2e78a0a96b4f79
14:52 hudsonbot Project Koha build (24): STILL UNSTABLE in 6 min 50 sec:
14:52 hudsonbot * Chris Cormack: Language updates from pootle
14:52 hudsonbot * Chris Cormack: Updating german prefs
14:52 hudsonbot * Chris Cormack: Language updates from pootle
14:52 hudsonbot * Chris Cormack: Lots of opac .po file updates
14:52 hudsonbot * Chris Cormack: Intranet .po updates
14:52 hudsonbot * Chris Cormack: Amharic; Ethiopian updates getting ready for 3.2
14:52 hudsonbot * Chris Cormack: Removing spam from albanian
14:52 hudsonbot * Chris Cormack: Removing spam from Amharic
14:52 hudsonbot * Chris Cormack: Updates and spam removal
14:52 hudsonbot * Chris Cormack: Spam removal
14:52 hudsonbot * Chris Cormack: More spam tidy ups
14:52 hudsonbot * Chris Cormack: More spam removal
14:52 hudsonbot * Chris Cormack: Greek and NZ english updates
14:52 hudsonbot * Chris Cormack: Greek and NZ updates
14:52 hudsonbot * Chris Cormack: Continuing updates for 3.2
14:52 hudsonbot * Chris Cormack: Finished the en-NZ system preferences
14:52 hudsonbot * Chris Cormack: English intranet updates
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15:11 kf weekend - bye all!
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15:21 wizzyrea longshot: anybody here using envisionware with sip2
15:21 wizzyrea I set one of these up over a year ago, and now I can't remember, even with my notes what finally made it work :(
15:22 wizzyrea of course I don't have access to the other envisionware setup, so I can't look at it
15:22 wizzyrea #myjobsuckssometimes
15:23 * jcamins gives wizzyrea a piece of chocolate stovetop cake-like thing drenched in chocolate pudding
15:23 wizzyrea ooh, chocolate :)
15:23 jcamins :)
15:24 jcamins I thought that might help a bit.
15:25 jcamins My wife (wow does it feel weird to say that!) was very impressed that it came out... she was predicting disaster based on the maniacal laughing and complete lack of a plan, but it turns out you can use a berry crumble recipe to make chocolate pudding and cake by replacing the berries with water/gelatin/chocolate, and the biscuit topping with cake/cookie batter. :)
15:26 wizzyrea lol
15:26 jcamins Berry cobbler, sorry. I always get the two confused. :)
15:26 wizzyrea you must be happy
15:26 wizzyrea because you were cooking with your feelings, and happy people get good results ;)
15:27 wizzyrea whenever we have a "I don't have a plan for dinner I"m cooking with my feelings" the hubs and I always ask each other if we're feeling happy
15:27 wizzyrea :P
15:29 jcamins Heh. That's a good point.
15:29 wizzyrea and we know it's just better to order in if we're not feeling happy ;)
15:30 jcamins But, of course I'm happy... I got married a week ago, and I was baking something with chocolate! (the heat is really starting to get to me... it had been ages since I baked anything with chocolate)
15:31 jcamins (to clarify, I can't bake really when it's hot out, because we'd die of heat prostration if we used the oven... and baking is one of my favorite activities)
15:32 sekjal jcamins: at least it's almost autumn
15:32 sekjal hopefully this heat will knock off after Labor Day
15:33 jcamins I hope so! We have no bread at all in the freezer anymore. I was forced to buy bread last week! ;)
15:33 sekjal would that I had more time to bake and cook
15:34 sekjal we do at least get bread delivered with our produce, though
15:34 sekjal save that trip to the store
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15:35 jcamins Last winter I had a lot of free time, and learned to make bread (over the course of two days) with only about an hour of effort for 6-10 loaves.
15:35 wizzyrea oh yea, I've heard of that method, did that earlier this summer
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15:35 wizzyrea but it turns out I'm mostly too lazy for even that
15:36 wizzyrea lol, how sad.
15:36 wizzyrea to admit that.
15:36 jcamins Heh. I added up how much it costs to buy a loaf of bread from the baker on the corner, and how much it costs to bake my own (and also the relative enjoyment of the two), and made a concerted effort all spring and the first part of summer to bake all my bread.
15:37 jcamins On a Koha-related subject: is it possible to create a framework based on a template record?
15:37 wizzyrea that would certainly be epic to be able to do that
15:37 wizzyrea creating frameworks is so painful.
15:38 jcamins I know. We have about... oh, a billion, frameworks left to create.
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15:46 pastebot "gmcharlt" at pasted "fix need to es-ES OPAC translation" (13 lines) at
15:46 gmcharlt anybody who can edit es-ES ^^
15:46 gmcharlt sans fix, translation won't install
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16:10 cait hi #koha
16:11 jcamins Hi cait
16:11 cait hi jcamins :)
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16:25 * wizzyrea curses at Windows
16:29 wizzyrea why god, isn't there a tail for windows.
16:29 jcamins
16:29 jcamins Ask and ye shall receive. :)
16:30 wizzyrea heh. if it was my server I would install that.
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16:45 hdl bye
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16:47 sekjal has anyone in here tried following up on the removal of tablesort from the circ/ screen, in order to improve checkout speed?
16:48 sekjal this was brought up on the list a little while ago
16:51 wizzyrea you know what, I can't even remember a single time I've seen someone actually sort that table
16:52 wizzyrea you know the one that needs to be sorted and isn't? The holds queue report.
16:52 wizzyrea s/sorted/sortable
16:52 sekjal I'm thinking of adding a system preference to toggle Tablesort on the circ page
16:53 sekjal it really seems to be slowing people down, and it'd be nice if they could opt to make the tradeoff
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17:33 jcamins Do we have any documentation that explains using Koha for people who have never used a library catalog?
17:35 jcamins Ooh, it looks like we have some videos on YouTube.
17:40 jcamins nengard++
17:41 nengard hehe
17:41 nengard there are a lot of videos on youtube
17:41 nengard they're not all me
17:41 nengard i just compiled the list
17:41 nengard i assume you found this:
17:41 jcamins Yeah, that's what I'm looking at.
17:42 jcamins Now I just need to craft a diplomatic message which points out that patrons spend more time waiting for me to do a search for them than they would spend watching the videos.
17:52 jcamins Hm. All the videos seem to include words like "OPAC" or "keyword." Understandably, of course.
17:52 chris_n wow..[…]news-asiapacific/
17:53 chris_n hope the NZ folks are ok
17:53 jcamins Oh my.
17:54 chris_n just occurred a few minutes ago
17:59 wizzyrea oh my
17:59 wizzyrea[…]hits-South-Island
18:01 wizzyrea guess chris will be really busy today keeping "stuff" alive
18:06 chris[…]hits-South-Island
18:06 wizzyrea we saw! did you feel it?
18:07 chris yup
18:07 chris woke me up
18:07 wizzyrea yikes!
18:07 chris but no damage up this far away
18:08 wizzyrea that's good to hear
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18:14 chris_n for those of you who like technical details:[…]0atbp.php#details
18:15 cait really good to hear
18:15 Braedon so is it 7.4 or 5.7?
18:15 chris_n chris: you can even log an "I felt it" report on that site
18:15 * chris_n wonders if the usgs is experiencing a typo difficulty
18:16 chris[…]kes/3366146g.html
18:16 chris[…]ums/wel-drum.html
18:16 wizzyrea lol usgs can't get it right. Silly
18:17 chris[…]ums/mqz-drum.html
18:17 chris still tons of aftershocks in chch
18:17 wizzyrea that graph kind of makes it look like it was ramping up
18:17 chris_n low frequency resonance is an amazing thing
18:17 wizzyrea tiny ones that you couldn't really feel, getting slightly larger, then BOOM
18:18 * wizzyrea likes graphs
18:20 Braedon perhaps usgs is in local magnitude and geonet in moment magnitude, or vice versa?
18:21 wizzyrea hm, geonet powered by plone
18:21 wizzyrea interesting
18:22 Braedon[…]es/us2010atbj.php
18:23 Braedon they have two logged
18:30 chris[…]hits-South-Island <-- photos
18:30 wizzyrea !! oh no!
18:33 Braedon stuff's last updated timestamp is a bit off is it not?
18:33 chris 6:04 ?
18:33 chris looks ok to me
18:33 wizzyrea was gonna say, seems plausible
18:33 Braedon i only got up at 6:09 and plenty has chnaged since i first saw the page
18:35 chris its only updated when they change the story, not attach thngs to it
18:35 Braedon ahh, ok
18:35 chris its on cnn now
18:35 chris if anyone has cnn
18:36 chris cantebury tv is off the air
18:43 chris tvnz is talking about stupid business crap, our media are slightly retarded
18:43 chris get a god damned reporter there already
18:43 wizzyrea you have family near christchurch? or no?
18:45 Braedon chris: yeah, i just checked them. i would have assumed at least one channel would have changed their regular programming
18:46 chris yep, my grandma and my uncle and aunt
18:47 Braedon are any of the regulars here from that far down?
18:47 chris nope
18:48 chris[…]hits-South-Island
18:48 chris slideshow now
18:49 chris once again stuff is winning the breaking news race
18:49 chris damn, that car is wrecked
18:50 chris they dont normally get quakes down there, so lots more brick than say wellington
18:50 Braedon was anyone in that building?
18:50 chris nope, luckily
18:50 chris thats manchester street, all businesses so would be mostly empty
18:52 Braedon in auckland a lot of business upstairs floors like that are flats
18:53 chris judging by the forsale sign, it might have been empty empty
18:53 chris which is lucky
18:53 Braedon ahh, tru
18:53 Braedon didn't see that
18:53 chris not so much for the poor taxi driver
18:53 wizzyrea i certainly hope he wasn't in that car
18:53 wizzyrea oh I just saw the people in that last photo
18:54 wizzyrea the reports say there are lots of people in the street, and I was thinking "well, there's nobody in these photos!" but yea, there they are.
18:54 chris i think ppl are out and about taking photos now
18:56 wizzyrea love the comments on that story
18:56 wizzyrea best use of the social web ever.
18:56 wizzyrea "water sloshed out of the toilet" that's a mad earthquake
19:00 chris finally some news on tvnz
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19:04 chris no casualties been reported yet
19:04 chris so thats great
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19:05 chris my uncle and aunt are ok
19:05 wizzyrea that's really good news
19:06 chris my uncle is going to check on my grandma, as soon as the roads are clear enough to
19:08 chris apparently the river has changed its course and the water table is all messed up
19:08 jcamins Oh no! Do most people have well water?
19:09 chris nope, but lots of surface flooding
19:10 jcamins Well, that's something... it can take months to fix a poisoned well.
19:10 chris pipes will be busted too, so clean water is going to be the next problem
19:11 wizzyrea there is a sentence you don't see every day: the river has changed it's course
19:11 chris
19:11 Braedon those brick facades really don't hold up too well do they
19:12 jcamins Yikes.
19:12 chris nope
19:12 wizzyrea[…]type=mixed&page=1
19:12 chris wood ftw
19:13 wizzyrea ouch
19:13 wizzyrea
19:15 chris yeah, act of god too, so insurance is probably gonna try not to have to pay
19:15 wizzyrea mutter.
19:15 wizzyrea insurance.
19:15 chris buildings etc ppl often have an earthquake levy, so they are ok
19:15 chris cars otoh
19:16 moodaepo Wonder if it's better to have an earthquake during the day or late night
19:16 chris night i think, more scary but less people in office blocks
19:16 moodaepo Probably bad either way for different reasons
19:16 chris at least in christchurch most people live in single story houses
19:17 Braedon yeah, depends on the buildings. NZ probably better at night
19:17 moodaepo True if it's flat complexes might be pretty bad
19:17 chris which is a much better place to be than on the 4th floor of an office block
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19:25 wizzyrea what exactly is a mud volcano
19:26 chris somethig that person made up :)
19:26 wizzyrea AHA
19:26 Braedon ..?
19:30 Braedon what's this about a mud volcano?
19:30 chris
19:31 Braedon ahh i see
19:32 * Braedon is a bit disappointed given the connotations of 'volcano'
19:32 chris yeah
19:32 jcamins wizzyrea: I always thought it was a favored science experiment for preschoolers.
19:32 jcamins ;)
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19:33 Braedon upgraded to baking soda and vinegar by the time they hit high school
19:33 jcamins Right.
19:33 chris tv3 Braedon
19:33 * wizzyrea is totally down with volcanoes of all kinds.
19:33 chris got a reporter live there now
19:34 wizzyrea as long as they're not burning my feet off
19:35 chris whoa thats a lot of wine on the floor
19:40 Braedon indeed
19:40 moodaepo >[…]10/02/mudvolcano/
19:40 Braedon according to that reporter everything is on the floor
19:42 Braedon he seemed rather flustered when talking about what he had done
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19:45 Braedon on a totally unrelated note, that buckyball in the google logo is awesome
19:45 jcamins Braedon: ?
19:45 Braedon google home page
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19:45 Braedon anniversary of the buckyball apparently
19:46 jcamins Maybe it'll show up for us USians tomorrow.
19:46 Braedon it is an interactive spinning buckyball
19:46 Braedon doesn't seem to be flash
19:47 * indradg is wondering if anyone has ever tried to use Koha's MARC21 support for Community Format information
19:47 jcamins for those who want to see it.
19:48 * Braedon should have thought of that :P
19:49 jcamins Wow. That's incredible.
19:49 jcamins (looking at how they did it)
19:49 jcamins I totally don't understand it, but I'm impressed anyway.
19:49 Braedon lol
19:49 jcamins I think every single line and dot is a separate image.
19:50 Braedon yeah, seems to be
19:50 jcamins Our library catalog logo should do that.
19:50 jcamins A gyroscopic oak leaf.
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19:52 Braedon it is really hard to read google's code - they always remove all the white space for obvious reasons
19:53 * Braedon needs an editor that automatically formats javascript
19:53 jcamins Reducing bandwidth requirements? ;)
19:53 * Braedon actually needs to stop procrastinating and get back to work
19:53 Braedon jcamins: yip yip
19:53 chris we minify ours too
19:54 chris[…]mepage-all.min.js
20:00 wizzyrea hopefully this is as close as any of us get to earl:[…]e=player_embedded
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20:27 gmcharlt indradg: not to my knowledge; it would mostly be a matter of a lot of bookkeeping (setting up MARC frameworks, indexing configs, display configs, etc.)
20:28 gmcharlt but (assuming that community info records were the only thing residing in the database) you could treat them as bibs
20:29 gmcharlt making CI records live alongside bib records would take more work
20:29 indradg gmcharlt, that was what I was thinking too
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20:30 gmcharlt of course, it does expose one to silliness such as the question of how does one check out a person
20:30 indradg heh
20:31 jcamins gmcharlt: actually, a few libraries experimented with that as a publicity stunt.
20:31 indradg gmcharlt, notforloan :P
20:31 * wizzyrea ponders circulating people... backs away from the thought
20:31 chris thats what i plan to do for kohacon
20:32 indradg jcamins, any links or URLs w.r.t. that ^^^?
20:32 chris you lot are all being issued out to the room
20:32 jcamins I'd have to look.
20:32 jcamins I don't think they actually used CI, though.
20:32 wizzyrea because, you can't check us out. >.>
20:33 jcamins indradg:
20:33 jcamins http://www.writerscentrenorwic[…]humanlibrary.aspx
20:33 indradg jcamins, taking a look
20:34 jcamins wizzyrea: The Music Man suggests otherwise. :P
20:35 wizzyrea or you can check out any time you like, but you can never leave.
20:36 jcamins The new theme song for the reference area?
20:36 indradg wizzyrea, thats so hotel california :P
20:38 jcamins I now have both Marian _and_ Hotel California stuck in my head.
20:38 jcamins Please take one of them out.
20:40 Braedon
20:40 wizzyrea YES
20:40 gmcharlt jcamins: just for you -
20:40 wizzyrea thank you that is what I was looking for, braedon
20:41 wizzyrea ... unhearit just gave me "baby don't hurt me
20:41 wizzyrea "
20:41 Braedon lol
20:41 wizzyrea er
20:41 wizzyrea "what is love"
20:41 wizzyrea oh, and the macarena
20:41 jcamins I don't know how to turn it off!
20:41 jcamins ;)
20:42 jcamins And that's my cue to leave.
20:42 jcamins Have a good night, #koha
20:42 wizzyrea omg. unhearit is on a roll
20:42 wizzyrea I just got the swing version of gaga's poker face
20:43 wizzyrea ...which is better than it might seem.
20:43 Braedon haha
20:43 jcamins Heh.
20:43 wizzyrea though telephone is the one that really benefits from swingification
20:43 jcamins Kind of scary to think about.
20:43 jcamins Bye!
20:43 jcamins is now known as jcamins_a
20:43 wizzyrea later :)
20:47 indradg goodnight #koha
20:47 indradg is now known as indradg|Z
20:50 * Elwell catches up on the quake news and scrolls back -- all OK?
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20:58 Braedon_m Hehe, why has it taken me so long to get an android client?
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21:02 Braedon_m This is going to chew through mobile data isn't it...
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21:19 wizzyrea nobody's reported fatal error problems with the new label creator that I've seen, right?
21:19 wizzyrea with saving templates?
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