Time Nick Message 00:50 moo Hey guys, does someone have time to help me with a zebra password prob ? 01:01 moo yay, i figured it out... :-) thanks for your help yesterday chris / wasabi, I stumbled on this post which just helped me debug ;-) http://lists.koha.org/pipermail/koha-zebra/2008-August/000296.html 01:01 moo later. 02:15 cait hi #koha 02:15 chris cait??? isnt it like 2am? 02:15 cait 4:16 02:16 cait woke up at 3 and was not able to go back to sleep 02:16 chris thats still way to early 02:16 chris yikes 02:16 cait it is 02:17 richard happy early morning cait 02:18 cait hi richard 02:18 cait perhaps reading my distance study book will help :) 02:18 chris :) 02:19 cait have to finish it until 14th 02:29 cait hmpf. server down. 02:33 chris its sleeping :) 02:34 cait yeah, they do maintenance at this time 03:22 schuster chris - when I did git branch I see master and *mywork 03:22 chris that means you are on the mywork branch 03:23 schuster ok - so what should I do to get this up to the current head? 03:24 chris current master .. what you do is git fetch 03:24 chris git rebase origin/master 03:24 schuster and it doesn't matter which branch I'm in right? 03:25 chris yes it does 03:25 schuster so which branch do I want to be in when I do that? 03:25 chris depends, i dont know what you use mywork for 03:25 chris id probably do it on master first 03:25 chris git checkout master 03:26 schuster ok - I'm pretty sure there isn't anything in mywork - 03:27 schuster it tells me master is up to date. 03:27 chris you did the fetch and rebase eh? 03:28 schuster no didn't fetch - sorry so I should do that and then rebase ok 03:28 chris yes 03:30 schuster ok those steps are done things happened so that's it I should be up to date? 03:30 Amit heya chris, schuster 03:30 schuster heya amit... 03:30 chris yup 03:35 cait @wunder Konstanz 03:36 munin cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 11.6�C (5:36 AM CEST on September 03, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: 11.0�C. Pressure: 30.04 in 1017.2 hPa (Steady). 03:36 * cait is still awake 03:36 chris yikes! 03:37 chris you are going to fall asleep on your desk 03:37 cait it's friday 03:37 cait can leave earlier today 03:37 chris good :) 03:38 cait :) 03:40 schuster @wunder 75035 03:40 munin schuster: The current temperature in Custer Creek Farms, Frisco, Texas is 22.2�C (10:28 PM CDT on September 02, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 96%. Dew Point: 22.0�C. Pressure: 30.03 in 1016.8 hPa (Rising). 03:41 schuster Thanks chris now off to read about testing... 04:13 richard who does the editing on the koha-community site - wizzyrea? 04:27 cait richard - she can edit the site, not sure who else 04:27 richard cool 04:28 richard i'll send her an email 04:28 richard found a bung link 04:35 cait anyone knows a good xml editor? I need something to check my DTD, XML Schemas, XQuery, XPath homework 05:05 cait bbl 05:50 kf good morning #koha 06:12 zen hello 06:14 kf hi zen 06:16 zen i am working @branch library and i am installing koha 3.0.06 and i want to integtated my koha with the main library koha 06:18 kf zen: what do you mean by integrating? a 06:20 zen kf: we use different koha servers when my patrons wants to search data @main library they should have to open the main server 06:21 kf so you don't want to share one catalog? 06:21 zen no,what i want is there any mechansim that i can have a copy of the main library at my koha server. 06:22 kf I am not sure how to do it 06:22 kf perhaps you could use oai 06:22 kf I read some people have done similar things, but we have never done something like that 06:24 zen i try to google it but the most result i have got is integration with SIP something like. 06:25 kf sip is for self checkout 06:25 kf checkout, return, patron info 06:25 kf oai-pmh 06:26 kf or perhaps pazpar2 06:27 kf perhaps you could also do something on mysql level 06:27 kf but what would the copy on your server be good for? 06:28 Amit heya kf 06:29 kf hi Amit 06:30 zen kf: for example i am working at agriculture library so in my database there is only agriculture bibliographic data when user wants IT data he should have to open the main koha server. 06:31 kf hm, sounds complicated for the user :) 06:32 kf but why have a copy? can't he acces the main koha server via internet? 06:34 zen it is not a good a solution cause the branch is far 100 mile from main and the interent is not stable,but if i can dump the bibliographic data of the main library the user can easily get the data. 06:36 kf hm ok, but he will not be able to place holds or see the real availablity 06:38 zen the question is can we integrate (connect) two mysql databases from different koha servers 06:44 zen kf: is my question isn't clear? 06:45 kf I am perhaps just not the right person to talk to 06:46 zen ok thank you! 06:57 zen bye 06:57 kf bye :) 07:21 Fred Hello 07:21 kf hi Fred 07:31 chris @wunder wellington, nz 07:31 munin chris: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 8.0�C (7:00 PM NZST on September 03, 2010). Conditions: Rain Showers. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: 6.0�C. Windchill: 2.0�C. Pressure: 29.56 in 1001 hPa (Rising). 07:31 chris s/rain showers/hail/ 07:31 kf @wunder Konstanz 07:31 munin kf: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 14.1�C (9:31 AM CEST on September 03, 2010). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 86%. Dew Point: 12.0�C. Pressure: 30.08 in 1018.5 hPa (Steady). 07:38 chris http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/KohaCon2011_Proposals 07:40 chris hi magnus 07:41 magnus hi chris 07:46 magnus good to be back after a couple days traveling - sorry to miss the meeting 07:46 chris np, it was a nice short meeting 07:47 magnus yeah, i read the transcript 07:47 kf hi magnus 07:51 magnus guten tag, kf 07:54 magnus chris: i didn't quite catch the situation with the main blocking bug for 3.2 - is there a patch that solves it or is the solution only partial so there has to be more patches for it? 07:57 chris the patch doesnt solve it 07:58 chris colin tested it and it still isnt quite right, its blocking anyone who uses acquisitons from being able to upgrade 07:58 chris i added to the bug how i did it manual 07:58 chris ly 08:05 chris magnus: did you see http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Kohacon10_Social_Events ? 08:06 magnus yeah, lots of good ideas! 08:07 magnus chris: thanks for putting me right about the blocker 08:07 chris feel free to add any you are thinking of, i thought ppl could use it to plan day trips and things 09:30 Amit heya chris: Diwali Festival http://www.wotzon.com/eventlisting.php?event_id=5006803 09:31 hdl hi 09:31 hdl hi amit 09:31 Amit hi hdl 09:47 kf hi hdl 11:28 Amit heya jwagner 11:28 Amit Happy Weekend to all ;) 11:34 kf hi again #koha 11:34 kf forced_restart-- 11:34 kf hdl: around? 11:34 hdl kf: yep 11:34 kf we have a new customer with RFID, they want to use 3M 11:35 kf http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Hook-up_with_3M_sensitization_solution 11:35 hdl work like a charm 11:35 kf great :) 11:35 kf has the universite self check? 11:35 jwagner Hi Amit 11:35 hdl kf: yep 11:35 kf hi jwagner :) 11:35 jwagner Hi kf 11:35 hdl using sip_server.sh 11:35 hdl using sip_start.sh 11:35 hdl sorry 11:35 kf no problem 11:36 kf we already have one library using rfid 11:36 kf but with another vendor 11:36 kf 3M called and asked about Koha and SIP and I told them there are already other libraries using 3M - no searching for examples 11:36 kf now 11:37 hdl we have many libraries using that atm 11:37 hdl Mines paris-tech Lyon3 for instance 11:37 kf great, thx 11:37 kf is the old doc still relevant? 11:38 kf http://koha.org/documentation/manual/3.0/appendices/sip2-integration? 11:39 hdl yep atz++ 11:39 kf cool - thx for your help! 11:39 hdl kf: there is a wrapper for perl -I./ ./SIPServer.pm ./SIPServer.xml >~/sip_log.out 2>~/sip_log.err & 11:39 hdl sip_start 11:41 kf ? 11:41 kf sorry, I don't understand 11:42 kf I know about the xml configuration file, but the start/stop/reset things is my coworker's part 11:42 kf :) 11:42 hdl i.e. rather than using perl -I./ ./SIPServer.pm ./SIPServer.xml >~/sip_log.out 2>~/sip_log.err & 11:43 hdl use sip_run.sh SIPServer.xml ~/sip_log.out ~/sip_log.err 11:43 kf do yoour libraries renew via sip? 11:43 hdl I think so 11:44 hdl it is also managed and controlled in the 3M configuration interface 11:44 kf hm? 11:44 hdl you can enable it i 11:44 hdl in SIPconfig.xml 11:45 kf ah, I think we did that 11:45 hdl But you also have to enable that on the selfcheckout engine 11:45 kf but our tests were a bit problematic 11:51 kf ok, thx a lot again :) 11:51 kf today is crazy friday - a lot of phone calls 11:54 kf hdl: are those libraries using "standard" koha, or did you have to change something to make it all work? 11:58 kf nah, I believe it will work - it does for our other library too. 12:08 nengard got a question about issues - i'm looking at data in my system and it looks like once an item is marked lost it is no longer in the issues table or the old_issues table ...does a record of that checkout just disappear? 12:08 hdl kf: it is standard SIP 12:08 hdl service 12:09 kf hdl: great :) 12:09 kf nengard: ouch 12:09 nengard if it disappears - um - yes - ouch 12:10 nengard but does it for others? 12:10 kf sorry, can't test right now 12:43 nengard does anyone know if there is a way to have today's date print at the top of notices? 12:43 nengard maybe a shortcode we can add to the notice templates? 12:53 nengard okay - a different question - when does the HOLDPLACED notice get sent? Where does this come into play? it's not a choice on enhanced messages 12:55 kf nengard: sys pref 12:55 nengard checking now 12:55 kf nengard: the notice send to the librarian that a hold was placed 12:55 nengard OH RIGHT!!! 12:55 nengard Thank you :) 12:56 kf you are welcome :) 12:56 kf I think it was not really working for a long time and the sample notice is quite new too 12:58 nengard i was blinded by the question i was being asked- which focused on patrons getting the email and forgot to think about the librarian :) 12:59 kf I can totally understand 13:00 kf the date is a good idea too! 13:09 nengard kf - okay found a problem - might have a bug to report 13:09 nengard the customer has shown me that this message is being send to patrons ... not just librarians!!! 13:09 nengard uh oh 13:09 kf *sighs* 13:09 kf today that does not surprise me 13:09 nengard need to poke at this a bit before we report anything, just an fyi for you 13:09 kf thx! 13:12 jcamins Good morning, #koha 13:15 nengard morning 13:15 nengard - not sure it's good ... finding too many problems this morning :( 13:16 jcamins nengard: I can relate to that. The Department of Corporations misspelled my LLC's name, so I'll probably spend the next month arguing with them over getting it fixed. 13:16 nengard ick! 13:17 nengard mine are all koha issues ... 13:17 nengard i'm signing up for a perl class - but until then there are too many issues i don't know how to troubleshoot :( 13:17 kf oooh 13:17 * kf want a perl class too 13:18 kf never thought about it, strange 13:18 kf nengard: the new issue notifications will work ok after the 2 patches are applied 13:19 nengard cool 13:22 jcamins Cool, I just learned how to find out what Debian package contains a particular file! 13:22 jcamins robin++ 13:30 Genji hiya all. Library/branch groups... what has been implimented? is there a way to search a group, yet? 13:33 nengard there are such things as search groups ... 13:33 nengard i don't know that they work though :) 13:34 Genji yeah.. search groups/ domains.... hmm... 13:40 Genji in code, search groups are 'categories' in branches.pl? 14:12 kf nengard: have you checked the message queue table for the email address teh mail was sent to? 14:12 kf nengard: I have mails working on my test installation at home, perhaps I can test later 14:12 nengard kf, it's not my server, i'll need to get access 14:13 wizzyrea does anybody know what link Richard was referring to? I don't have any email from him 14:14 kf what did he say? 14:14 wizzyrea richard 14:14 wizzyrea : 14:14 wizzyrea who does the editing on the koha-community site - wizzyrea? 14:14 wizzyrea [11:14p] anitsirk left the chat room. (Remote host closed the connection) 14:14 wizzyrea [11:14p] anitsirk joined the chat room. 14:14 wizzyrea [11:28p] 14:14 wizzyrea cait 14:14 wizzyrea : 14:14 wizzyrea richard - she can edit the site, not sure who else 14:14 wizzyrea [11:28p] 14:14 wizzyrea richard 14:14 wizzyrea : 14:14 wizzyrea cool 14:14 wizzyrea [11:28p] richard: 14:14 wizzyrea i'll send her an email 14:14 wizzyrea [11:28p] richard: 14:14 wizzyrea found a bung link 14:14 wizzyrea \ 14:14 wizzyrea ouch, sorry 14:19 chris_n lol 14:20 jcamins chris_n: I guess you've been ivvacuated (the opposite of "evacuated") now? 14:21 chris_n actually the evacuations were on the coast 14:21 chris_n I only evacuated my office at the end of the day yesterday :-) 14:21 jcamins Oh. I thought I had seen something in the scrollback about you evacuating. 14:21 nengard kf confirmed 14:21 * chris_n is glad that monster did what it was supposed to, though 14:21 nengard the message sent only to the library 14:22 chris_n jcamins: nope, I'm 1.5 hours from the coast 14:22 chris_n we just got the outer cloud bands and a little drizzle of rain 14:22 jcamins Good! 14:23 kf nengard: cool :) 14:45 hudsonbot Starting build 24 for job Koha (previous build: UNSTABLE -- last UNSTABLE #23 17 hr ago) 14:45 kf uh huh 14:45 kf :) 14:47 munin New commit(s) kohagit: Merge branch 'translation' of git://git.workbuffer.org/git/koha into to-push <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=e58961f689422aa1d5ed4518820481b16d62cb4a> / Lots of lanugage updates <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=c40b1d522996443d59fa5407cb777e5e4f31011f> / Finished EN-NZ <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=6e9203287a17cc2e78a0a96b4f79 14:52 hudsonbot Project Koha build (24): STILL UNSTABLE in 6 min 50 sec: http://bugs.koha-community.org:8080/job/Koha/24/ 14:52 hudsonbot * Chris Cormack: Language updates from pootle 14:52 hudsonbot * Chris Cormack: Updating german prefs 14:52 hudsonbot * Chris Cormack: Language updates from pootle 14:52 hudsonbot * Chris Cormack: Lots of opac .po file updates 14:52 hudsonbot * Chris Cormack: Intranet .po updates 14:52 hudsonbot * Chris Cormack: Amharic; Ethiopian updates getting ready for 3.2 14:52 hudsonbot * Chris Cormack: Removing spam from albanian 14:52 hudsonbot * Chris Cormack: Removing spam from Amharic 14:52 hudsonbot * Chris Cormack: Updates and spam removal 14:52 hudsonbot * Chris Cormack: Spam removal 14:52 hudsonbot * Chris Cormack: More spam tidy ups 14:52 hudsonbot * Chris Cormack: More spam removal 14:52 hudsonbot * Chris Cormack: Greek and NZ english updates 14:52 hudsonbot * Chris Cormack: Greek and NZ updates 14:52 hudsonbot * Chris Cormack: Continuing updates for 3.2 14:52 hudsonbot * Chris Cormack: Finished the en-NZ system preferences 14:52 hudsonbot * Chris Cormack: English intranet updates 15:11 kf weekend - bye all! 15:21 wizzyrea longshot: anybody here using envisionware with sip2 15:21 wizzyrea I set one of these up over a year ago, and now I can't remember, even with my notes what finally made it work :( 15:22 wizzyrea of course I don't have access to the other envisionware setup, so I can't look at it 15:22 wizzyrea #myjobsuckssometimes 15:23 * jcamins gives wizzyrea a piece of chocolate stovetop cake-like thing drenched in chocolate pudding 15:23 wizzyrea ooh, chocolate :) 15:23 jcamins :) 15:24 jcamins I thought that might help a bit. 15:25 jcamins My wife (wow does it feel weird to say that!) was very impressed that it came out... she was predicting disaster based on the maniacal laughing and complete lack of a plan, but it turns out you can use a berry crumble recipe to make chocolate pudding and cake by replacing the berries with water/gelatin/chocolate, and the biscuit topping with cake/cookie batter. :) 15:26 wizzyrea lol 15:26 jcamins Berry cobbler, sorry. I always get the two confused. :) 15:26 wizzyrea you must be happy 15:26 wizzyrea because you were cooking with your feelings, and happy people get good results ;) 15:27 wizzyrea whenever we have a "I don't have a plan for dinner I"m cooking with my feelings" the hubs and I always ask each other if we're feeling happy 15:27 wizzyrea :P 15:29 jcamins Heh. That's a good point. 15:29 wizzyrea and we know it's just better to order in if we're not feeling happy ;) 15:30 jcamins But, of course I'm happy... I got married a week ago, and I was baking something with chocolate! (the heat is really starting to get to me... it had been ages since I baked anything with chocolate) 15:31 jcamins (to clarify, I can't bake really when it's hot out, because we'd die of heat prostration if we used the oven... and baking is one of my favorite activities) 15:32 sekjal jcamins: at least it's almost autumn 15:32 sekjal hopefully this heat will knock off after Labor Day 15:33 jcamins I hope so! We have no bread at all in the freezer anymore. I was forced to buy bread last week! ;) 15:33 sekjal would that I had more time to bake and cook 15:34 sekjal we do at least get bread delivered with our produce, though 15:34 sekjal save that trip to the store 15:35 jcamins Last winter I had a lot of free time, and learned to make bread (over the course of two days) with only about an hour of effort for 6-10 loaves. 15:35 wizzyrea oh yea, I've heard of that method, did that earlier this summer 15:35 wizzyrea but it turns out I'm mostly too lazy for even that 15:36 wizzyrea lol, how sad. 15:36 wizzyrea to admit that. 15:36 jcamins Heh. I added up how much it costs to buy a loaf of bread from the baker on the corner, and how much it costs to bake my own (and also the relative enjoyment of the two), and made a concerted effort all spring and the first part of summer to bake all my bread. 15:37 jcamins On a Koha-related subject: is it possible to create a framework based on a template record? 15:37 wizzyrea that would certainly be epic to be able to do that 15:37 wizzyrea creating frameworks is so painful. 15:38 jcamins I know. We have about... oh, a billion, frameworks left to create. 15:46 pastebot "gmcharlt" at 98.70.42.64 pasted "fix need to es-ES OPAC translation" (13 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/60 15:46 gmcharlt anybody who can edit es-ES ^^ 15:46 gmcharlt sans fix, translation won't install 16:10 cait hi #koha 16:11 jcamins Hi cait 16:11 cait hi jcamins :) 16:25 * wizzyrea curses at Windows 16:29 wizzyrea why god, isn't there a tail for windows. 16:29 jcamins http://tailforwin32.sourceforge.net/ 16:29 jcamins Ask and ye shall receive. :) 16:30 wizzyrea heh. if it was my server I would install that. 16:45 hdl bye 16:47 sekjal has anyone in here tried following up on the removal of tablesort from the circ/circulation.pl screen, in order to improve checkout speed? 16:48 sekjal this was brought up on the list a little while ago 16:51 wizzyrea you know what, I can't even remember a single time I've seen someone actually sort that table 16:52 wizzyrea you know the one that needs to be sorted and isn't? The holds queue report. 16:52 wizzyrea s/sorted/sortable 16:52 sekjal I'm thinking of adding a system preference to toggle Tablesort on the circ page 16:53 sekjal it really seems to be slowing people down, and it'd be nice if they could opt to make the tradeoff 17:33 jcamins Do we have any documentation that explains using Koha for people who have never used a library catalog? 17:35 jcamins Ooh, it looks like we have some videos on YouTube. 17:40 jcamins nengard++ 17:41 nengard hehe 17:41 nengard there are a lot of videos on youtube 17:41 nengard they're not all me 17:41 nengard i just compiled the list 17:41 nengard i assume you found this: http://www.youtube.com/group/kohails 17:41 jcamins Yeah, that's what I'm looking at. 17:42 jcamins Now I just need to craft a diplomatic message which points out that patrons spend more time waiting for me to do a search for them than they would spend watching the videos. 17:52 jcamins Hm. All the videos seem to include words like "OPAC" or "keyword." Understandably, of course. 17:52 chris_n wow.. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/38993181/ns/world_news-asiapacific/ 17:53 chris_n hope the NZ folks are ok 17:53 jcamins Oh my. 17:54 chris_n just occurred a few minutes ago 17:59 wizzyrea oh my 17:59 wizzyrea http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/4094986/Massive-7-4-quake-hits-South-Island 18:01 wizzyrea guess chris will be really busy today keeping "stuff" alive 18:06 chris http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/4094986/Massive-7-4-quake-hits-South-Island 18:06 wizzyrea we saw! did you feel it? 18:07 chris yup 18:07 chris woke me up 18:07 wizzyrea yikes! 18:07 chris but no damage up this far away 18:08 wizzyrea that's good to hear 18:14 chris_n for those of you who like technical details: http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/recenteqsww/Quakes/us2010atbp.php#details 18:15 cait really good to hear 18:15 Braedon so is it 7.4 or 5.7? 18:15 chris_n chris: you can even log an "I felt it" report on that site 18:15 * chris_n wonders if the usgs is experiencing a typo difficulty 18:16 chris http://www.geonet.org.nz/earthquake/quakes/3366146g.html 18:16 chris http://www.geonet.org.nz/earthquake/drums/wel-drum.html 18:16 wizzyrea lol usgs can't get it right. Silly 18:17 chris http://www.geonet.org.nz/earthquake/drums/mqz-drum.html 18:17 chris still tons of aftershocks in chch 18:17 wizzyrea that graph kind of makes it look like it was ramping up 18:17 chris_n low frequency resonance is an amazing thing 18:17 wizzyrea tiny ones that you couldn't really feel, getting slightly larger, then BOOM 18:18 * wizzyrea likes graphs 18:20 Braedon perhaps usgs is in local magnitude and geonet in moment magnitude, or vice versa? 18:21 wizzyrea hm, geonet powered by plone 18:21 wizzyrea interesting 18:22 Braedon http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/recenteqsww/Quakes/us2010atbj.php 18:23 Braedon they have two logged 18:30 chris http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/4094986/Massive-7-4-quake-hits-South-Island <-- photos 18:30 wizzyrea !! oh no! 18:33 Braedon stuff's last updated timestamp is a bit off is it not? 18:33 chris 6:04 ? 18:33 chris looks ok to me 18:33 wizzyrea was gonna say, seems plausible 18:33 Braedon i only got up at 6:09 and plenty has chnaged since i first saw the page 18:35 chris its only updated when they change the story, not attach thngs to it 18:35 Braedon ahh, ok 18:35 chris its on cnn now 18:35 chris if anyone has cnn 18:36 chris cantebury tv is off the air 18:43 chris tvnz is talking about stupid business crap, our media are slightly retarded 18:43 chris get a god damned reporter there already 18:43 wizzyrea you have family near christchurch? or no? 18:45 Braedon chris: yeah, i just checked them. i would have assumed at least one channel would have changed their regular programming 18:46 chris yep, my grandma and my uncle and aunt 18:47 Braedon are any of the regulars here from that far down? 18:47 chris nope 18:48 chris http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/4094986/Massive-7-4-quake-hits-South-Island 18:48 chris slideshow now 18:49 chris once again stuff is winning the breaking news race 18:49 chris damn, that car is wrecked 18:50 chris they dont normally get quakes down there, so lots more brick than say wellington 18:50 Braedon was anyone in that building? 18:50 chris nope, luckily 18:50 chris thats manchester street, all businesses so would be mostly empty 18:52 Braedon in auckland a lot of business upstairs floors like that are flats 18:53 chris judging by the forsale sign, it might have been empty empty 18:53 chris which is lucky 18:53 Braedon ahh, tru 18:53 Braedon didn't see that 18:53 chris not so much for the poor taxi driver 18:53 wizzyrea i certainly hope he wasn't in that car 18:53 wizzyrea oh I just saw the people in that last photo 18:54 wizzyrea the reports say there are lots of people in the street, and I was thinking "well, there's nobody in these photos!" but yea, there they are. 18:54 chris i think ppl are out and about taking photos now 18:56 wizzyrea love the comments on that story 18:56 wizzyrea best use of the social web ever. 18:56 wizzyrea "water sloshed out of the toilet" that's a mad earthquake 19:00 chris finally some news on tvnz 19:04 chris no casualties been reported yet 19:04 chris so thats great 19:05 chris my uncle and aunt are ok 19:05 wizzyrea that's really good news 19:06 chris my uncle is going to check on my grandma, as soon as the roads are clear enough to 19:08 chris apparently the river has changed its course and the water table is all messed up 19:08 jcamins Oh no! Do most people have well water? 19:09 chris nope, but lots of surface flooding 19:10 jcamins Well, that's something... it can take months to fix a poisoned well. 19:10 chris pipes will be busted too, so clean water is going to be the next problem 19:11 wizzyrea there is a sentence you don't see every day: the river has changed it's course 19:11 chris http://twitpic.com/2kwhsv 19:11 Braedon those brick facades really don't hold up too well do they 19:12 jcamins Yikes. 19:12 chris nope 19:12 wizzyrea http://twitpic.com/search#q=%23christchurch&type=mixed&page=1 19:12 chris wood ftw 19:13 wizzyrea ouch 19:13 wizzyrea http://twitpic.com/2kwb90 19:15 chris yeah, act of god too, so insurance is probably gonna try not to have to pay 19:15 wizzyrea mutter. 19:15 wizzyrea insurance. 19:15 chris buildings etc ppl often have an earthquake levy, so they are ok 19:15 chris cars otoh 19:16 moodaepo Wonder if it's better to have an earthquake during the day or late night 19:16 chris night i think, more scary but less people in office blocks 19:16 moodaepo Probably bad either way for different reasons 19:16 chris at least in christchurch most people live in single story houses 19:17 Braedon yeah, depends on the buildings. NZ probably better at night 19:17 moodaepo True if it's flat complexes might be pretty bad 19:17 chris which is a much better place to be than on the 4th floor of an office block 19:25 wizzyrea what exactly is a mud volcano 19:26 chris somethig that person made up :) 19:26 wizzyrea AHA 19:26 Braedon ..? 19:30 Braedon what's this about a mud volcano? 19:30 chris http://twitpic.com/2kwki6 19:31 Braedon ahh i see 19:32 * Braedon is a bit disappointed given the connotations of 'volcano' 19:32 chris yeah 19:32 jcamins wizzyrea: I always thought it was a favored science experiment for preschoolers. 19:32 jcamins ;) 19:33 Braedon upgraded to baking soda and vinegar by the time they hit high school 19:33 jcamins Right. 19:33 chris tv3 Braedon 19:33 * wizzyrea is totally down with volcanoes of all kinds. 19:33 chris got a reporter live there now 19:34 wizzyrea as long as they're not burning my feet off 19:35 chris whoa thats a lot of wine on the floor 19:40 Braedon indeed 19:40 moodaepo > http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2010/02/mudvolcano/ 19:40 Braedon according to that reporter everything is on the floor 19:42 Braedon he seemed rather flustered when talking about what he had done 19:45 Braedon on a totally unrelated note, that buckyball in the google logo is awesome 19:45 jcamins Braedon: ? 19:45 Braedon google home page 19:45 Braedon anniversary of the buckyball apparently 19:46 jcamins Maybe it'll show up for us USians tomorrow. 19:46 Braedon it is an interactive spinning buckyball 19:46 Braedon doesn't seem to be flash 19:47 * indradg is wondering if anyone has ever tried to use Koha's MARC21 support for Community Format information 19:47 jcamins http://www.google.co.nz for those who want to see it. 19:48 * Braedon should have thought of that :P 19:49 jcamins Wow. That's incredible. 19:49 jcamins (looking at how they did it) 19:49 jcamins I totally don't understand it, but I'm impressed anyway. 19:49 Braedon lol 19:49 jcamins I think every single line and dot is a separate image. 19:50 Braedon yeah, seems to be 19:50 jcamins Our library catalog logo should do that. 19:50 jcamins A gyroscopic oak leaf. 19:52 Braedon it is really hard to read google's code - they always remove all the white space for obvious reasons 19:53 * Braedon needs an editor that automatically formats javascript 19:53 jcamins Reducing bandwidth requirements? ;) 19:53 * Braedon actually needs to stop procrastinating and get back to work 19:53 Braedon jcamins: yip yip 19:53 chris we minify ours too 19:54 chris http://static.stuff.co.nz/1283232439/static/js/homepage-all.min.js 20:00 wizzyrea hopefully this is as close as any of us get to earl: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dGnbfoN1vdg&feature=player_embedded 20:27 gmcharlt indradg: not to my knowledge; it would mostly be a matter of a lot of bookkeeping (setting up MARC frameworks, indexing configs, display configs, etc.) 20:28 gmcharlt but (assuming that community info records were the only thing residing in the database) you could treat them as bibs 20:29 gmcharlt making CI records live alongside bib records would take more work 20:29 indradg gmcharlt, that was what I was thinking too 20:30 gmcharlt of course, it does expose one to silliness such as the question of how does one check out a person 20:30 indradg heh 20:31 jcamins gmcharlt: actually, a few libraries experimented with that as a publicity stunt. 20:31 indradg gmcharlt, notforloan :P 20:31 * wizzyrea ponders circulating people... backs away from the thought 20:31 chris thats what i plan to do for kohacon 20:32 indradg jcamins, any links or URLs w.r.t. that ^^^? 20:32 chris you lot are all being issued out to the room 20:32 jcamins I'd have to look. 20:32 jcamins I don't think they actually used CI, though. 20:32 wizzyrea because, you can't check us out. >.> 20:33 jcamins indradg: http://www.worcester.ac.uk/ils/107.htm 20:33 jcamins http://www.writerscentrenorwich.org.uk/borrowmethehumanlibrary.aspx 20:33 indradg jcamins, taking a look 20:34 jcamins wizzyrea: The Music Man suggests otherwise. :P 20:35 wizzyrea or you can check out any time you like, but you can never leave. 20:36 jcamins The new theme song for the reference area? 20:36 indradg wizzyrea, thats so hotel california :P 20:38 jcamins I now have both Marian _and_ Hotel California stuck in my head. 20:38 jcamins Please take one of them out. 20:40 Braedon http://unhearit.com/ 20:40 wizzyrea YES 20:40 gmcharlt jcamins: just for you - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1_47KVJV8DU 20:40 wizzyrea thank you that is what I was looking for, braedon 20:41 wizzyrea ... unhearit just gave me "baby don't hurt me 20:41 wizzyrea " 20:41 Braedon lol 20:41 wizzyrea er 20:41 wizzyrea "what is love" 20:41 wizzyrea oh, and the macarena 20:41 jcamins I don't know how to turn it off! 20:41 jcamins ;) 20:42 jcamins And that's my cue to leave. 20:42 jcamins Have a good night, #koha 20:42 wizzyrea omg. unhearit is on a roll 20:42 wizzyrea I just got the swing version of gaga's poker face 20:43 wizzyrea ...which is better than it might seem. 20:43 Braedon haha 20:43 jcamins Heh. 20:43 wizzyrea though telephone is the one that really benefits from swingification 20:43 jcamins Kind of scary to think about. 20:43 jcamins Bye! 20:43 wizzyrea later :) 20:47 indradg goodnight #koha 20:50 * Elwell catches up on the quake news and scrolls back -- all OK? 20:58 Braedon_m Hehe, why has it taken me so long to get an android client? 21:02 Braedon_m This is going to chew through mobile data isn't it... 21:19 wizzyrea nobody's reported fatal error problems with the new label creator that I've seen, right? 21:19 wizzyrea with saving templates?