Time  Nick       Message
21:19 wizzyrea   with saving templates?
21:19 wizzyrea   nobody's reported fatal error problems with the new label creator that I've seen, right?
21:02 Braedon_m  This is going to chew through mobile data isn't it...
20:58 Braedon_m  Hehe, why has it taken me so long to get an android client?
20:50 * Elwell   catches up on the quake news and scrolls back -- all OK?
20:47 indradg    goodnight #koha
20:43 wizzyrea   later :)
20:43 jcamins    Bye!
20:43 jcamins    Kind of scary to think about.
20:43 wizzyrea   though telephone is the one that really benefits from swingification
20:43 jcamins    Heh.
20:43 Braedon    haha
20:43 wizzyrea   ...which is better than it might seem.
20:42 wizzyrea   I just got the swing version of gaga's poker face
20:42 wizzyrea   omg. unhearit is on a roll
20:42 jcamins    Have a good night, #koha
20:42 jcamins    And that's my cue to leave.
20:41 jcamins    ;)
20:41 jcamins    I don't know how to turn it off!
20:41 wizzyrea   oh, and the macarena
20:41 wizzyrea   "what is love"
20:41 wizzyrea   er
20:41 Braedon    lol
20:41 wizzyrea   "
20:41 wizzyrea   ... unhearit just gave me "baby don't hurt me
20:40 wizzyrea   thank you that is what I was looking for, braedon
20:40 gmcharlt   jcamins: just for you - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1_47KVJV8DU
20:40 wizzyrea   YES
20:40 Braedon    http://unhearit.com/
20:38 jcamins    Please take one of them out.
20:38 jcamins    I now have both Marian _and_ Hotel California stuck in my head.
20:36 indradg    wizzyrea, thats so hotel california :P
20:36 jcamins    The new theme song for the reference area?
20:35 wizzyrea   or you can check out any time you like, but you can never leave.
20:34 jcamins    wizzyrea: The Music Man suggests otherwise. :P
20:33 indradg    jcamins, taking a look
20:33 jcamins    http://www.writerscentrenorwich.org.uk/borrowmethehumanlibrary.aspx
20:33 jcamins    indradg: http://www.worcester.ac.uk/ils/107.htm
20:32 wizzyrea   because, you can't check us out. >.>
20:32 jcamins    I don't think they actually used CI, though.
20:32 jcamins    I'd have to look.
20:32 chris      you lot are all being issued out to the room
20:32 indradg    jcamins, any links or URLs w.r.t. that ^^^?
20:31 chris      thats what i plan to do for kohacon
20:31 * wizzyrea ponders circulating people... backs away from the thought
20:31 indradg    gmcharlt, notforloan :P
20:31 jcamins    gmcharlt: actually, a few libraries experimented with that as a publicity stunt.
20:30 indradg    heh
20:30 gmcharlt   of course, it does expose one to silliness such as the question of how does one check out a person
20:29 indradg    gmcharlt, that was what I was thinking too
20:29 gmcharlt   making CI records live alongside bib records would take more work
20:28 gmcharlt   but (assuming that community info records were the only thing residing in the database) you could treat them as bibs
20:27 gmcharlt   indradg: not to my knowledge; it would mostly be a matter of a lot of bookkeeping (setting up MARC frameworks, indexing configs, display configs, etc.)
20:00 wizzyrea   hopefully this is as close as any of us get to earl: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dGnbfoN1vdg&feature=player_embedded
19:54 chris      http://static.stuff.co.nz/1283232439/static/js/homepage-all.min.js
19:53 chris      we minify ours too
19:53 Braedon    jcamins: yip yip
19:53 * Braedon  actually needs to stop procrastinating and get back to work
19:53 jcamins    Reducing bandwidth requirements? ;)
19:53 * Braedon  needs an editor that automatically formats javascript
19:52 Braedon    it is really hard to read google's code - they always remove all the white space for obvious reasons
19:50 jcamins    A gyroscopic oak leaf.
19:50 jcamins    Our library catalog logo should do that.
19:50 Braedon    yeah, seems to be
19:49 jcamins    I think every single line and dot is a separate image.
19:49 Braedon    lol
19:49 jcamins    I totally don't understand it, but I'm impressed anyway.
19:49 jcamins    (looking at how they did it)
19:49 jcamins    Wow. That's incredible.
19:48 * Braedon  should have thought of that :P
19:47 jcamins    http://www.google.co.nz for those who want to see it.
19:47 * indradg  is wondering if anyone has ever tried to use Koha's MARC21 support for Community Format information
19:46 Braedon    doesn't seem to be flash
19:46 Braedon    it is an interactive spinning buckyball
19:46 jcamins    Maybe it'll show up for us USians tomorrow.
19:45 Braedon    anniversary of the buckyball apparently
19:45 Braedon    google home page
19:45 jcamins    Braedon: ?
19:45 Braedon    on a totally unrelated note, that buckyball in the google logo is awesome
19:42 Braedon    he seemed rather flustered when talking about what he had done
19:40 Braedon    according to that reporter everything is on the floor
19:40 moodaepo   > http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2010/02/mudvolcano/
19:40 Braedon    indeed
19:35 chris      whoa thats a lot of wine on the floor
19:34 wizzyrea   as long as they're not burning my feet off
19:33 chris      got a reporter live there now
19:33 * wizzyrea is totally down with volcanoes of all kinds.
19:33 chris      tv3 Braedon
19:33 jcamins    Right.
19:33 Braedon    upgraded to baking soda and vinegar by the time they hit high school
19:32 jcamins    ;)
19:32 jcamins    wizzyrea: I always thought it was a favored science experiment for preschoolers.
19:32 chris      yeah
19:32 * Braedon  is a bit disappointed given the connotations of 'volcano'
19:31 Braedon    ahh i see
19:30 chris      http://twitpic.com/2kwki6
19:30 Braedon    what's this about a mud volcano?
19:26 Braedon    ..?
19:26 wizzyrea   AHA
19:26 chris      somethig that person made up :)
19:25 wizzyrea   what exactly is a mud volcano
19:17 chris      which is a much better place to be than on the 4th floor of an office block
19:17 moodaepo   True if it's flat complexes might be pretty bad
19:17 Braedon    yeah, depends on the buildings. NZ probably better at night
19:16 chris      at least in christchurch most people live in single story houses
19:16 moodaepo   Probably bad either way for different reasons
19:16 chris      night i think, more scary but less people in office blocks
19:16 moodaepo   Wonder if it's better to have an earthquake during the day or late night
19:15 chris      cars otoh
19:15 chris      buildings etc ppl often have an earthquake levy, so they are ok
19:15 wizzyrea   insurance.
19:15 wizzyrea   mutter.
19:15 chris      yeah, act of god too, so insurance is probably gonna try not to have to pay
19:13 wizzyrea   http://twitpic.com/2kwb90
19:13 wizzyrea   ouch
19:12 chris      wood ftw
19:12 wizzyrea   http://twitpic.com/search#q=%23christchurch&type=mixed&page=1
19:12 chris      nope
19:12 jcamins    Yikes.
19:11 Braedon    those brick facades really don't hold up too well do they
19:11 chris      http://twitpic.com/2kwhsv
19:11 wizzyrea   there is a sentence you don't see every day: the river has changed it's course
19:10 chris      pipes will be busted too, so clean water is going to be the next problem
19:10 jcamins    Well, that's something... it can take months to fix a poisoned well.
19:09 chris      nope, but lots of surface flooding
19:08 jcamins    Oh no! Do most people have well water?
19:08 chris      apparently the river has changed its course and the water table is all messed up
19:06 chris      my uncle is going to check on my grandma, as soon as the roads are clear enough to
19:05 wizzyrea   that's really good news
19:05 chris      my uncle and aunt are ok
19:04 chris      so thats great
19:04 chris      no casualties been reported yet
19:00 chris      finally some news on tvnz
18:56 wizzyrea   "water sloshed out of the toilet" that's a mad earthquake
18:56 wizzyrea   best use of the social web ever.
18:56 wizzyrea   love the comments on that story
18:54 chris      i think ppl are out and about taking photos now
18:54 wizzyrea   the reports say there are lots of people in the street, and I was thinking "well, there's nobody in these photos!" but yea, there they are.
18:53 wizzyrea   oh I just saw the people in that last photo
18:53 wizzyrea   i certainly hope he wasn't in that car
18:53 chris      not so much for the poor taxi driver
18:53 Braedon    didn't see that
18:53 Braedon    ahh, tru
18:53 chris      which is lucky
18:53 chris      judging by the forsale sign, it might have been empty empty
18:52 Braedon    in auckland a lot of business upstairs floors like that are flats
18:50 chris      thats manchester street, all businesses so would be mostly empty
18:50 chris      nope, luckily
18:50 Braedon    was anyone in that building?
18:50 chris      they dont normally get quakes down there, so lots more brick than say wellington
18:49 chris      damn, that car is wrecked
18:49 chris      once again stuff is winning the breaking news race
18:48 chris      slideshow now
18:48 chris      http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/4094986/Massive-7-4-quake-hits-South-Island
18:47 chris      nope
18:47 Braedon    are any of the regulars here from that far down?
18:46 chris      yep, my grandma and my uncle and aunt
18:45 Braedon    chris: yeah, i just checked them. i would have assumed at least one channel would have changed their regular programming
18:43 wizzyrea   you have family near christchurch? or no?
18:43 chris      get a god damned reporter there already
18:43 chris      tvnz is talking about stupid business crap, our media are slightly retarded
18:36 chris      cantebury tv is off the air
18:35 chris      if anyone has cnn
18:35 chris      its on cnn now
18:35 Braedon    ahh, ok
18:35 chris      its only updated when they change the story, not attach thngs to it
18:33 Braedon    i only got up at 6:09 and plenty has chnaged since i first saw the page
18:33 wizzyrea   was gonna say, seems plausible
18:33 chris      looks ok to me
18:33 chris      6:04 ?
18:33 Braedon    stuff's last updated timestamp is a bit off is it not?
18:30 wizzyrea   !! oh no!
18:30 chris      http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/4094986/Massive-7-4-quake-hits-South-Island <-- photos
18:23 Braedon    they have two logged
18:22 Braedon    http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/recenteqsww/Quakes/us2010atbj.php
18:21 wizzyrea   interesting
18:21 wizzyrea   hm, geonet powered by plone
18:20 Braedon    perhaps usgs is in local magnitude and geonet in moment magnitude, or vice versa?
18:18 * wizzyrea likes graphs
18:17 wizzyrea   tiny ones that you couldn't really feel, getting slightly larger, then BOOM
18:17 chris_n    low frequency resonance is an amazing thing
18:17 wizzyrea   that graph kind of makes it look like it was ramping up
18:17 chris      still tons of aftershocks in chch
18:17 chris      http://www.geonet.org.nz/earthquake/drums/mqz-drum.html
18:16 wizzyrea   lol usgs can't get it right. Silly
18:16 chris      http://www.geonet.org.nz/earthquake/drums/wel-drum.html
18:16 chris      http://www.geonet.org.nz/earthquake/quakes/3366146g.html
18:15 * chris_n  wonders if the usgs is experiencing a typo difficulty
18:15 chris_n    chris: you can even log an "I felt it" report on that site
18:15 Braedon    so is it 7.4 or 5.7?
18:15 cait       really good to hear
18:14 chris_n    for those of you who like technical details: http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/recenteqsww/Quakes/us2010atbp.php#details
18:08 wizzyrea   that's good to hear
18:07 chris      but no damage up this far away
18:07 wizzyrea   yikes!
18:07 chris      woke me up
18:07 chris      yup
18:06 wizzyrea   we saw! did you feel it?
18:06 chris      http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/4094986/Massive-7-4-quake-hits-South-Island
18:01 wizzyrea   guess chris will be really busy today keeping "stuff" alive
17:59 wizzyrea   http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/4094986/Massive-7-4-quake-hits-South-Island
17:59 wizzyrea   oh my
17:54 chris_n    just occurred a few minutes ago
17:53 jcamins    Oh my.
17:53 chris_n    hope the NZ folks are ok
17:52 chris_n    wow.. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/38993181/ns/world_news-asiapacific/
17:52 jcamins    Hm. All the videos seem to include words like "OPAC" or "keyword." Understandably, of course.
17:42 jcamins    Now I just need to craft a diplomatic message which points out that patrons spend more time waiting for me to do a search for them than they would spend watching the videos.
17:41 jcamins    Yeah, that's what I'm looking at.
17:41 nengard    i assume you found this: http://www.youtube.com/group/kohails
17:41 nengard    i just compiled the list
17:41 nengard    they're not all me
17:41 nengard    there are a lot of videos on youtube
17:41 nengard    hehe
17:40 jcamins    nengard++
17:35 jcamins    Ooh, it looks like we have some videos on YouTube.
17:33 jcamins    Do we have any documentation that explains using Koha for people who have never used a library catalog?
16:53 sekjal     it really seems to be slowing people down, and it'd be nice if they could opt to make the tradeoff
16:52 sekjal     I'm thinking of adding a system preference to toggle Tablesort on the circ page
16:52 wizzyrea   s/sorted/sortable
16:52 wizzyrea   you know the one that needs to be sorted and isn't? The holds queue report.
16:51 wizzyrea   you know what, I can't even remember a single time I've seen someone actually sort that table
16:48 sekjal     this was brought up on the list a little while ago
16:47 sekjal     has anyone in here tried following up on the removal of tablesort from the circ/circulation.pl screen, in order to improve checkout speed?
16:45 hdl        bye
16:30 wizzyrea   heh. if it was my server I would install that.
16:29 jcamins    Ask and ye shall receive. :)
16:29 jcamins    http://tailforwin32.sourceforge.net/
16:29 wizzyrea   why god, isn't there a tail for windows.
16:25 * wizzyrea curses at Windows
16:11 cait       hi jcamins :)
16:11 jcamins    Hi cait
16:10 cait       hi #koha
15:46 gmcharlt   sans fix, translation won't install
15:46 gmcharlt   anybody who can edit es-ES ^^
15:46 pastebot   "gmcharlt" at 98.70.42.64 pasted "fix need to es-ES OPAC translation" (13 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/60
15:38 jcamins    I know. We have about... oh, a billion, frameworks left to create.
15:37 wizzyrea   creating frameworks is so painful.
15:37 wizzyrea   that would certainly be epic to be able to do that
15:37 jcamins    On a Koha-related subject: is it possible to create a framework based on a template record?
15:36 jcamins    Heh. I added up how much it costs to buy a loaf of bread from the baker on the corner, and how much it costs to bake my own (and also the relative enjoyment of the two), and made a concerted effort all spring and the first part of summer to bake all my bread.
15:36 wizzyrea   to admit that.
15:36 wizzyrea   lol, how sad.
15:35 wizzyrea   but it turns out I'm mostly too lazy for even that
15:35 wizzyrea   oh yea, I've heard of that method, did that earlier this summer
15:35 jcamins    Last winter I had a lot of free time, and learned to make bread (over the course of two days) with only about an hour of effort for 6-10 loaves.
15:34 sekjal     save that trip to the store
15:34 sekjal     we do at least get bread delivered with our produce, though
15:33 sekjal     would that I had more time to bake and cook
15:33 jcamins    I hope so! We have no bread at all in the freezer anymore. I was forced to buy bread last week! ;)
15:32 sekjal     hopefully this heat will knock off after Labor Day
15:32 sekjal     jcamins: at least it's almost autumn
15:31 jcamins    (to clarify, I can't bake really when it's hot out, because we'd die of heat prostration if we used the oven... and baking is one of my favorite activities)
15:30 jcamins    But, of course I'm happy... I got married a week ago, and I was baking something with chocolate! (the heat is really starting to get to me... it had been ages since I baked anything with chocolate)
15:29 wizzyrea   and we know it's just better to order in if we're not feeling happy ;)
15:29 jcamins    Heh. That's a good point.
15:27 wizzyrea   :P
15:27 wizzyrea   whenever we have a "I don't have a plan for dinner I"m cooking with my feelings" the hubs and I always ask each other if we're feeling happy
15:26 wizzyrea   because you were cooking with your feelings, and happy people get good results ;)
15:26 wizzyrea   you must be happy
15:26 jcamins    Berry cobbler, sorry. I always get the two confused. :)
15:26 wizzyrea   lol
15:25 jcamins    My wife (wow does it feel weird to say that!) was very impressed that it came out... she was predicting disaster based on the maniacal laughing and complete lack of a plan, but it turns out you can use a berry crumble recipe to make chocolate pudding and cake by replacing the berries with water/gelatin/chocolate, and the biscuit topping with cake/cookie batter. :)
15:24 jcamins    I thought that might help a bit.
15:23 jcamins    :)
15:23 wizzyrea   ooh, chocolate :)
15:23 * jcamins  gives wizzyrea a piece of chocolate stovetop cake-like thing drenched in chocolate pudding
15:22 wizzyrea   #myjobsuckssometimes
15:22 wizzyrea   of course I don't have access to the other envisionware setup, so I can't look at it
15:21 wizzyrea   I set one of these up over a year ago, and now I can't remember, even with my notes what finally made it work :(
15:21 wizzyrea   longshot: anybody here using envisionware with sip2
15:11 kf         weekend - bye all!
14:52 hudsonbot  * Chris Cormack: English intranet updates
14:52 hudsonbot  * Chris Cormack: Finished the en-NZ system preferences
14:52 hudsonbot  * Chris Cormack: Continuing updates for 3.2
14:52 hudsonbot  * Chris Cormack: Greek and NZ updates
14:52 hudsonbot  * Chris Cormack: Greek and NZ english updates
14:52 hudsonbot  * Chris Cormack: More spam removal
14:52 hudsonbot  * Chris Cormack: More spam tidy ups
14:52 hudsonbot  * Chris Cormack: Spam removal
14:52 hudsonbot  * Chris Cormack: Updates and spam removal
14:52 hudsonbot  * Chris Cormack: Removing spam from Amharic
14:52 hudsonbot  * Chris Cormack: Removing spam from albanian
14:52 hudsonbot  * Chris Cormack: Amharic; Ethiopian updates getting ready for 3.2
14:52 hudsonbot  * Chris Cormack: Intranet .po updates
14:52 hudsonbot  * Chris Cormack: Lots of opac .po file updates
14:52 hudsonbot  * Chris Cormack: Language updates from pootle
14:52 hudsonbot  * Chris Cormack: Updating german prefs
14:52 hudsonbot  * Chris Cormack: Language updates from pootle
14:52 hudsonbot  Project Koha build (24): STILL UNSTABLE in 6 min 50 sec: http://bugs.koha-community.org:8080/job/Koha/24/
14:47 munin      New commit(s) kohagit: Merge branch 'translation' of git://git.workbuffer.org/git/koha into to-push <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=e58961f689422aa1d5ed4518820481b16d62cb4a> / Lots of lanugage updates <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=c40b1d522996443d59fa5407cb777e5e4f31011f> / Finished EN-NZ <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=6e9203287a17cc2e78a0a96b4f79
14:45 kf         :)
14:45 kf         uh huh
14:45 hudsonbot  Starting build 24 for job Koha (previous build: UNSTABLE -- last UNSTABLE #23 17 hr ago)
14:23 kf         nengard: cool :)
14:22 jcamins    Good!
14:22 chris_n    we just got the outer cloud bands and a little drizzle of rain
14:22 chris_n    jcamins: nope, I'm 1.5 hours from the coast
14:21 nengard    the message sent only to the library
14:21 * chris_n  is glad that monster did what it was supposed to, though
14:21 nengard    kf confirmed
14:21 jcamins    Oh. I thought I had seen something in the scrollback about you evacuating.
14:21 chris_n    I only evacuated my office at the end of the day yesterday :-)
14:21 chris_n    actually the evacuations were on the coast
14:20 jcamins    chris_n: I guess you've been ivvacuated (the opposite of "evacuated") now?
14:19 chris_n    lol
14:14 wizzyrea   ouch, sorry
14:14 wizzyrea   \
14:14 wizzyrea   found a bung link
14:14 wizzyrea   [11:28p] richard:
14:14 wizzyrea   i'll send her an email
14:14 wizzyrea   [11:28p] richard:
14:14 wizzyrea   cool
14:14 wizzyrea   :
14:14 wizzyrea   richard
14:14 wizzyrea   [11:28p]
14:14 wizzyrea   richard - she can edit the site, not sure who else
14:14 wizzyrea   :
14:14 wizzyrea   cait
14:14 wizzyrea   [11:28p]
14:14 wizzyrea   [11:14p] anitsirk joined the chat room.
14:14 wizzyrea   [11:14p] anitsirk left the chat room. (Remote host closed the connection)
14:14 wizzyrea   who does the editing on the koha-community site - wizzyrea?
14:14 wizzyrea   :
14:14 wizzyrea   richard
14:14 kf         what did he say?
14:13 wizzyrea   does anybody know what link Richard was referring to? I don't have any email from him
14:12 nengard    kf, it's not my server, i'll need to get access
14:12 kf         nengard: I have mails working on my test installation at home, perhaps I can test later
14:12 kf         nengard: have you checked the message queue table for the email address teh mail was sent to?
13:40 Genji      in code, search groups are 'categories' in branches.pl?
13:34 Genji      yeah.. search groups/ domains.... hmm...
13:33 nengard    i don't know that they work though :)
13:33 nengard    there are such things as search groups ...
13:30 Genji      hiya all. Library/branch groups... what has been implimented? is there a way to search a group, yet?
13:22 jcamins    robin++
13:22 jcamins    Cool, I just learned how to find out what Debian package contains a particular file!
13:19 nengard    cool
13:18 kf         nengard: the new issue notifications will work ok after the 2 patches are applied
13:18 kf         never thought about it, strange
13:17 * kf       want a perl class too
13:17 kf         oooh
13:17 nengard    i'm signing up for a perl class - but until then there are too many issues i don't know how to troubleshoot :(
13:17 nengard    mine are all koha issues ...
13:16 nengard    ick!
13:16 jcamins    nengard: I can relate to that. The Department of Corporations misspelled my LLC's name, so I'll probably spend the next month arguing with them over getting it fixed.
13:15 nengard    - not sure it's good ... finding too many problems this morning :(
13:15 nengard    morning
13:12 jcamins    Good morning, #koha
13:09 kf         thx!
13:09 nengard    need to poke at this a bit before we report anything, just an fyi for you
13:09 kf         today that does not surprise me
13:09 kf         *sighs*
13:09 nengard    uh oh
13:09 nengard    the customer has shown me that this message is being send to patrons ... not just librarians!!!
13:09 nengard    kf - okay found a problem - might have a bug to report
13:00 kf         the date is a good idea too!
12:59 kf         I can totally understand
12:58 nengard    i was blinded by the question i was being asked- which focused on patrons getting the email and forgot to think about the librarian :)
12:56 kf         I think it was not really working for a long time and the sample notice is quite new too
12:56 kf         you are welcome :)
12:55 nengard    Thank you :)
12:55 nengard    OH RIGHT!!!
12:55 kf         nengard: the notice send to the librarian that a hold was placed
12:55 nengard    checking now
12:55 kf         nengard: sys pref
12:53 nengard    okay - a different question - when does the HOLDPLACED notice get sent? Where does this come into play? it's not a choice on enhanced messages
12:43 nengard    maybe a shortcode we can add to the notice templates?
12:43 nengard    does anyone know if there is a way to have today's date print at the top of notices?
12:10 kf         sorry, can't test right now
12:10 nengard    but does it for others?
12:09 nengard    if it disappears - um - yes - ouch
12:09 kf         nengard: ouch
12:09 kf         hdl: great :)
12:08 hdl        service
12:08 hdl        kf: it is standard SIP
12:08 nengard    got a question about issues - i'm looking at data in my system and it looks like once an item is marked lost it is no longer in the issues table or the old_issues table ...does a record of that checkout just disappear?
11:58 kf         nah, I believe it will work - it does for our other library too.
11:54 kf         hdl: are those libraries using "standard" koha, or did you have to change something to make it all work?
11:51 kf         today is crazy friday - a lot of phone calls
11:51 kf         ok, thx a lot again :)
11:45 kf         but our tests were a bit problematic
11:45 hdl        But you also have to  enable that on the selfcheckout engine
11:45 kf         ah, I think we did that
11:44 hdl        in SIPconfig.xml
11:44 hdl        you can enable it i
11:44 kf         hm?
11:44 hdl        it is also managed and controlled in the 3M configuration interface
11:43 hdl        I think so
11:43 kf         do yoour libraries renew via sip?
11:43 hdl        use sip_run.sh  SIPServer.xml ~/sip_log.out ~/sip_log.err
11:42 hdl        i.e. rather than using perl -I./ ./SIPServer.pm ./SIPServer.xml >~/sip_log.out 2>~/sip_log.err &
11:42 kf         :)
11:42 kf         I know about the xml configuration file, but the start/stop/reset things is my coworker's part
11:41 kf         sorry, I don't understand
11:41 kf         ?
11:39 hdl        sip_start
11:39 hdl        kf: there is a wrapper for perl -I./ ./SIPServer.pm ./SIPServer.xml >~/sip_log.out 2>~/sip_log.err &
11:39 kf         cool - thx for your help!
11:39 hdl        yep atz++
11:38 kf         http://koha.org/documentation/manual/3.0/appendices/sip2-integration?
11:37 kf         is the old doc still relevant?
11:37 kf         great, thx
11:37 hdl        Mines paris-tech  Lyon3 for instance
11:37 hdl        we have many libraries using that atm
11:36 kf         now
11:36 kf         3M called and asked about Koha and SIP and I told them there are already other libraries using 3M - no searching for examples
11:36 kf         but with another vendor
11:36 kf         we already have one library using rfid
11:35 kf         no problem
11:35 hdl        sorry
11:35 hdl        using sip_start.sh
11:35 hdl        using sip_server.sh
11:35 jwagner    Hi kf
11:35 kf         hi jwagner :)
11:35 hdl        kf: yep
11:35 jwagner    Hi Amit
11:35 kf         has the universite self check?
11:35 kf         great :)
11:35 hdl        work like a charm
11:35 kf         http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Hook-up_with_3M_sensitization_solution
11:34 kf         we have a new customer with RFID, they want to use 3M
11:34 hdl        kf: yep
11:34 kf         hdl: around?
11:34 kf         forced_restart--
11:34 kf         hi again #koha
11:28 Amit       Happy Weekend to all ;)
11:28 Amit       heya jwagner
09:47 kf         hi hdl
09:31 Amit       hi hdl
09:31 hdl        hi amit
09:31 hdl        hi
09:30 Amit       heya chris: Diwali Festival http://www.wotzon.com/eventlisting.php?event_id=5006803
08:07 chris      feel free to add any you are thinking of, i thought ppl could use it to plan day trips and things
08:07 magnus     chris: thanks for putting me right about the blocker
08:06 magnus     yeah, lots of good ideas!
08:05 chris      magnus: did you see http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Kohacon10_Social_Events ?
07:58 chris      ly
07:58 chris      i added to the bug how i did it manual
07:58 chris      colin tested it and it still isnt quite right, its blocking anyone who uses acquisitons from being able to upgrade
07:57 chris      the patch doesnt solve it
07:54 magnus     chris: i didn't quite catch the situation with the main blocking bug for 3.2 - is there a patch that solves it or is the solution only partial so there has to be more patches for it?
07:51 magnus     guten tag, kf
07:47 kf         hi magnus
07:47 magnus     yeah, i read the transcript
07:46 chris      np, it was a nice short meeting
07:46 magnus     good to be back after a couple days traveling - sorry to miss the meeting
07:41 magnus     hi chris
07:40 chris      hi magnus
07:38 chris      http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/KohaCon2011_Proposals
07:31 munin      kf: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 14.1�C (9:31 AM CEST on September 03, 2010). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 86%. Dew Point: 12.0�C. Pressure: 30.08 in 1018.5 hPa (Steady).
07:31 kf         @wunder Konstanz
07:31 chris      s/rain showers/hail/
07:31 munin      chris: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 8.0�C (7:00 PM NZST on September 03, 2010). Conditions: Rain Showers. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: 6.0�C. Windchill: 2.0�C. Pressure: 29.56 in 1001 hPa (Rising).
07:31 chris      @wunder wellington, nz
07:21 kf         hi Fred
07:21 Fred       Hello
06:57 kf         bye :)
06:57 zen        bye
06:46 zen        ok thank you!
06:45 kf         I am perhaps just not the right person to talk to
06:44 zen        kf: is my question isn't clear?
06:38 zen        the question is can we integrate (connect) two mysql databases from different koha servers
06:36 kf         hm ok, but he will not be able to place holds or see the real availablity
06:34 zen        it is not a good a solution cause the branch is far 100 mile from main and the interent is not stable,but if i can dump the bibliographic data of the main library the user can easily  get the data.
06:32 kf         but why have a copy? can't he acces the main koha server via internet?
06:31 kf         hm, sounds complicated for the user :)
06:30 zen        kf: for example i am working at agriculture library so in my database there is only agriculture bibliographic data when user wants  IT data he should have to open the main koha server.
06:29 kf         hi Amit
06:28 Amit       heya kf
06:27 kf         but what would the copy on your server be good for?
06:27 kf         perhaps you could also do something on mysql level
06:26 kf         or perhaps pazpar2
06:25 kf         oai-pmh
06:25 kf         checkout, return, patron info
06:25 kf         sip is for self checkout
06:24 zen        i try to google it but the most result i have got is integration with SIP something like.
06:22 kf         I read some people have done similar things, but we have never done something like that
06:22 kf         perhaps you could use oai
06:22 kf         I am not sure how to do it
06:21 zen        no,what i want is there any mechansim that i can have a copy of the main library at my koha server.
06:21 kf         so you don't want to share one catalog?
06:20 zen        kf: we use different koha servers when my patrons wants to search data @main library they should have to open the main server
06:18 kf         zen: what do you mean by integrating? a
06:16 zen        i am working @branch library and i am installing koha 3.0.06 and i want to integtated my koha with the main library koha
06:14 kf         hi zen
06:12 zen        hello
05:50 kf         good morning #koha
05:05 cait       bbl
04:35 cait       anyone knows a good xml editor? I need something to check my DTD, XML Schemas, XQuery, XPath homework
04:28 richard    found a bung link
04:28 richard    i'll send her an email
04:27 richard    cool
04:27 cait       richard - she can edit the site, not sure who else
04:13 richard    who does the editing on the koha-community site - wizzyrea?
03:41 schuster   Thanks chris now off to read about testing...
03:40 munin      schuster: The current temperature in Custer Creek Farms, Frisco, Texas is 22.2�C (10:28 PM CDT on September 02, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 96%. Dew Point: 22.0�C. Pressure: 30.03 in 1016.8 hPa (Rising).
03:40 schuster   @wunder 75035
03:38 cait       :)
03:37 chris      good :)
03:37 cait       can leave earlier today
03:37 cait       it's friday
03:37 chris      you are going to fall asleep on your desk
03:36 chris      yikes!
03:36 * cait     is still awake
03:36 munin      cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 11.6�C (5:36 AM CEST on September 03, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: 11.0�C. Pressure: 30.04 in 1017.2 hPa (Steady).
03:35 cait       @wunder Konstanz
03:30 chris      yup
03:30 schuster   heya amit...
03:30 Amit       heya chris, schuster
03:30 schuster   ok those steps are done things happened so that's it I should be up to date?
03:28 chris      yes
03:28 schuster   no didn't fetch - sorry so I should do that and then rebase ok
03:27 chris      you did the fetch and rebase eh?
03:27 schuster   it tells me master is up to date.
03:26 schuster   ok - I'm pretty sure there isn't anything in mywork -
03:25 chris      git checkout master
03:25 chris      id probably do it on master first
03:25 chris      depends, i dont know what you use mywork for
03:25 schuster   so which branch do I want to be in when I do that?
03:25 chris      yes it does
03:24 schuster   and it doesn't matter which branch I'm in right?
03:24 chris      git rebase origin/master
03:24 chris      current master .. what you do is git fetch
03:23 schuster   ok - so what should I do to get this up to the current head?
03:22 chris      that means you are on the mywork branch
03:22 schuster   chris - when I did git branch I see master and *mywork
02:34 cait       yeah, they do maintenance at this time
02:33 chris      its sleeping :)
02:29 cait       hmpf. server down.
02:19 cait       have to finish it until 14th
02:18 chris      :)
02:18 cait       perhaps reading my distance study book will help :)
02:18 cait       hi richard
02:17 richard    happy early morning cait
02:16 cait       it is
02:16 chris      yikes
02:16 chris      thats still way to early
02:16 cait       woke up at 3 and was not able to go back to sleep
02:15 cait       4:16
02:15 chris      cait??? isnt it like 2am?
02:15 cait       hi #koha
01:01 moo        later.
01:01 moo        yay, i figured it out... :-) thanks for your help yesterday chris / wasabi, I stumbled on this post which just helped me debug ;-) http://lists.koha.org/pipermail/koha-zebra/2008-August/000296.html
00:50 moo        Hey guys, does someone have time to help me with a zebra password prob ?