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chobbs |
anyone awake? |
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robin |
nope |
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chobbs |
no worries - tracked down my issue on my own :) |
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smustafa |
good morning everyone. |
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smustafa |
Is Chris available at this time? to discuss how to get Zebra working on DEV koha setup... |
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wasabi |
smustafa: chris has prolly just left werk, to go home.. |
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smustafa |
oh ok |
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wasabi |
5pm, NZ time |
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wasabi |
smustafa: but ask way... :) |
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wasabi |
s/way/away/ |
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smustafa |
export KOHA_CONF=/home/mistuser/koha-dev/etc/koha-conf.xml |
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smustafa |
I did that as koha:koha |
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smustafa |
then I did perl -I /var/www/koha-2010-08-04 /var/www/koha-2010-08-04/misc/migration_tools/rebuild_zebra.pl -b -a -r |
| 05:04 |
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smustafa |
but it shows nothing on the screen. Just stays there hanging.... |
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smustafa |
:( :( |
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cait |
morning #koha |
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smustafa |
any ideas wasabi? |
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smustafa |
or cait? |
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smustafa |
<smustafa>export KOHA_CONF=/home/mistuser/koha-dev/etc/koha-conf.xml <smustafa>I did that as koha:koha <smustafa>then I did perl -I /var/www/koha-2010-08-04 /var/www/koha-2010-08-04/misc/migration_tools/rebuild_zebra.pl -b -a -r <smustafa>but it shows nothing on the screen. Just stays there hanging.... |
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smustafa |
trying to setup Zebra on my Koha-DEV setup...but when I run the rebuild_zebra.pl tool it does not work... |
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cait |
sorry smustafa, no real idea |
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smustafa |
ok.. |
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cait |
I would peraps try -v as option to see more |
| 05:13 |
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cait |
and make sure your zebra files are owned by your koha user |
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wasabi |
smustafa: rebuild_zebra.pl -v |
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wasabi |
-v means verbose |
| 05:15 |
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smustafa |
oh is that why...ok now I see things showing up.... |
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wasabi |
;) |
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smustafa |
ok thanks wasabi.. :) |
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wasabi |
look for file-permission errors at the end of the rebuild... |
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cait |
sorry, I just got up |
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wasabi |
as cait said before |
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cait |
still half asleep :) |
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wasabi |
$ chown -R koha:koha /home/mistuser/koha-dev/etc/zebradb |
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wasabi |
to fix your possible file-perm errors... |
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smustafa |
THanks, I shall do that :) |
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Amit |
heya wasabi |
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wasabi |
hey amit |
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cait |
hi Amit |
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smustafa |
I can't seem to search eventhough I ran the zebra indexing |
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smustafa |
it does not return anything.. |
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cait |
is your zebrasrv running? |
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smustafa |
well I think so, otherwise the zebraindexing would not be running right? |
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smustafa |
It shows exporting biblio....................etc etc |
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smustafa |
when I ran in it.. |
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Amit |
heya cait |
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cait |
not sure one needs the other |
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smustafa |
well at the last step of REINDINXG Zebra |
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smustafa |
+++++++++++++++++++++++ |
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cait |
no errors in the output of rebuild zebra? |
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smustafa |
it is trying to load some filter modules...and it works ok, but then it stops at 01:47:06-26/08 zebraidx(26648) [log] Loaded filter module /usr/lib/idzebra-2.0/modules/mod-alvis.so |
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smustafa |
not sure why.. |
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cait |
me neither |
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smustafa |
The size of koha-zebradaemon.err and koha-zebradaemon-output.log is 0 both |
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smustafa |
same for the koha-zebraqueue.err and koha-zebraqueue-output.log |
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smustafa |
also 0 size.. |
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cait |
but most of the times indexing was ok and I got no results I forgot to start zebrasrv |
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smustafa |
how do I start it.. |
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cait |
sorry, I can't look at my notes now, have to get ready for work |
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smustafa |
its alright :) |
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wasabi |
smustafa: $ ps -ef|grep zebrasrv |
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wasabi |
is how to check |
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cait |
bbl |
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wasabi |
but, if you dont rememebr starting your zebrasrv, process then it prolly is not started |
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wasabi |
zebra-indexing, and the zebrasrv process are 2 seperate things |
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wasabi |
smustafa: $ zebrasrv -f /home/mistuser/koha-dev/etc/koha-conf.xml |
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wasabi |
... starts your zeb |
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smustafa |
ok let me try that wasabi |
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wasabi |
then try yr search again |
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smustafa |
let me try that and get back to you dear |
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wasabi |
yep, no problem.. |
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smustafa |
it is still saying exporting biblio |
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smustafa |
so I am waiting.. |
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larsw |
chris, http://soap.docstory.fi/posts/birds/ :) |
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smustafa |
I think it is working Wasabi, I see that it is adding gr.marcxml.record and it was not doing that before.. |
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wasabi |
its working, when you get search-results back ;) |
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magnus |
g'day #koha |
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smustafa |
ok dear it worked |
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smustafa |
Thanks wasabi :D |
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wasabi |
ooh, great stuff! |
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wasabi |
ive got a train to catch now.... |
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smustafa |
ok bye :) |
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kf |
hi äkoha |
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kf |
#koha |
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kf |
smustafa: your zebra working now? |
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smustafa |
yes dear |
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kf |
ah, great :) |
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hdl |
hi all |
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kf |
hi hdl |
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hdl |
* |
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kf |
crazy week |
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chris |
larsw: cool :) |
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hdl |
hi magnus |
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hdl |
hi chris |
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chris |
hiya hdl |
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magnus |
hiya chris, hdl, kf et al |
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magnus |
larsw: i'm looking even more forward to kohacon now... ;-) |
| 08:15 |
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magnus |
and talking about nz birds: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9T1vfsHYiKY |
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chris |
magnus: just dont copy your fellow norwegians and shoot them :) |
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chris |
http://www.stuff.co.nz/nationa[…]who-killed-kereru |
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magnus |
i remember that one, yeah. i|ll make sure i stay a long way away from any firearms... |
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chris |
a pretty good rule in general i reckon :) |
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magnus |
hm, maybe i should track them down, stuff them in my suitcase and hand them over to the authorities on my arrival in nz... |
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chris |
hehe |
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kf |
hi chris and magnus |
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hi kf |
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magnus |
anyone from biblibre around? |
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kf |
I think hdl was here earlier |
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hdl |
magnus: yes. |
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* chris |
bumped into the cuecatdecode code today, and that reminded me to do a new unsung heroes post |
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kf |
chris: hm, didn't you mention the cuecat code in one of your earlier posts? |
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kf |
hm, perhaps I read about it in the history :) |
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kf |
yep: May 18 2001 Glen Stewart leaves his job and working on Koha, gives us cuecat decoding code as a parting gift. |
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chris |
yup, it still exists |
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magnus |
how do y'all interpret marc field 952$0 (zero) "withdrawn" - something that has been withdrawn by the publisher? |
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magnus |
or to put it another way: how would you code an item that has been scrapped/thrown away, but where the record should still be kept in the catalogue? just delete the scrapped item? |
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kf |
sounds confusing for the patron |
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kf |
I think mark it as withdrawn is better, but not sure what consequences this has for search, checkout etc. our libraries are not using it |
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magnus |
kf: what's confusing? records without items? |
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kf |
yep |
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magnus |
kf: i guess i agree... i'll ask if i can delete the records, i think |
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mib_66k37 |
hola |
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mib_66k37 |
hi |
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dagentoob |
hey |
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dagentoob |
anyone know a way to rebuild the zebra database |
| 11:22 |
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dagentoob |
?? |
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dagentoob |
I tried rebuild_zebra.pl |
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dagentoob |
and I am still getting search results for the wrong thing |
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dagentoob |
can I delete the whole zebra DB and start over? |
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kf |
dagentoob: which options did u use for your rebuild? |
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kf |
there is an option to do that for rebuild_zebra.pl |
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kf |
dagentoob: http://koha-community.org/docu[…]/faq/searching/#5 |
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dagentoob |
./bin/migration_tools/rebuild_zebra.pl -z -b -a |
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dagentoob |
k |
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mib_66k37 |
I want to install koha with debian 5.0, which version of perl and mysql need ? |
| 11:29 |
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dagentoob |
I keep looking at koha.org and not finding stuff |
| 11:29 |
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dagentoob |
thansk |
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dagentoob |
thanks |
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mib_66k37 |
I want to install koha with debian 5.0, which version of perl and mysql need ? |
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druthb |
Mornin', #koha. |
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mib_66k37 |
I want to install koha with debian 5.0, which version of perl and mysql need ? |
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druthb |
mib_66k37: the ones that install naturally with Debian (using netinstall or apt-get) work Just Fine. |
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mib_66k37 |
druthb: thanks |
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druthb |
you betcha. Koha is pretty tolerant of that sort of thing; install it according to the directions, and it just works. |
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mib_66k37 |
druthb: what version of koha recommended me for a first installation? |
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Amit |
heya jwagner |
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jwagner |
Hi Amit |
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druthb |
The 3.0.x series is really solid, but there are a lot of newer features in the 3.2 release candidate that are worth looking at, at the cost of (possible) bugs here and there. I think most of the worst ones have been worked out. |
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magnus |
dagentoob: run rebuild_zebra.pl with the -h option to see available options |
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mib_66k37 |
druthb: thank you very much |
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druthb |
my pleasure. :) |
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pentarex |
hey guys |
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pentarex |
is there anyone who knows something about integrating koha to drupal via sopac ? |
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Amit |
heya pentarex |
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kf |
pentarex: there is some information about it in the manual on koha.org |
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kf |
args |
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kf |
koha-community.org |
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pentarex |
yeah ive saw it but i cannot make my search I dont understand about this prefix |
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pentarex |
SOPAC URL prefix |
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pentarex |
and the node prefix |
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pentarex |
anyone got any experience here ? |
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kf |
sorry pentarex, I have never installed it myself. perhaps someone from biblibre can help, they have done the work on sopac integration |
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pentarex |
do they have IRC channel ? |
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owen |
pentarex, you will often find them here: paul_p, hdl, nahuel |
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owen |
I guess not today |
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magnus |
hiya nengard |
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nengard |
howdy |
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jcamins |
Good morning, #koha (it's Thursday, not Friday like I thought it was going to be :( ) |
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nengard |
sorry jcamins ... i understand your disappointment :( |
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nengard |
anyone else having trouble with the koha site? |
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jcamins |
nengard: I am, but I'm having trouble with the internet in general. |
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nengard |
hmmm |
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magnus |
nengard: looks a bit slow from here |
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nengard |
k - good it's not just me, it timed out on me |
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jwagner |
nengard, which site? |
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nengard |
koha's site - but i think it's cause liz was upgrading - it's on the new new wp now! :) |
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kf |
jcamins: is today not your big day? |
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jcamins |
No, I thought yesterday was Thursday. It's not. :'( |
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jcamins |
So now I am counting the hours so I can't get confused. ;) |
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jcamins |
25, in case anyone was wondering. :) |
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nengard |
hehe |
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kf |
:) |
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kf |
we will help and remind you if we see you here tomorrow! |
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jcamins |
Thank you. |
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jcamins |
I realized why, though... my server thinks it's tomorrow. |
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jcamins |
I should probably fix this. |
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pentarex |
what is koha harvest port ? |
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hilongo |
hello #koha :) |
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magnus |
g'bye #koha |
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hilongo |
I'm testing the future 3.2 and messing around with the 'suspension in days' circ rules |
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hilongo |
I have found that this works... had some overdued loans and the patrong gets 'suspended' acording to the rules |
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hilongo |
what I can't find is where this info is saved. as hdl said to me a few days ago, the patron gets debarred until certain date but I cannot see that date in the patron's record in borrowers table |
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hilongo |
so ... where would it be? :) |
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sekjal |
hilongo: as I recall, the date isn't stored anywhere |
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sekjal |
the system does some kind of dynamic thing based off the issuing record |
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hilongo |
really? ... wow :) |
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slef |
@seen gmcharlt |
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munin |
slef: gmcharlt was last seen in #koha 1 day, 22 hours, 18 minutes, and 33 seconds ago: <gmcharlt> with lots of help - ideally Linus would right it, then have an editor to translate to remove the "Git-qua-Linus" aspects of the text |
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gmcharlt |
hi slef |
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slef |
heh |
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slef |
hi all |
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sekjal |
hilongo: I remember messing with Suspension in Days, and being kind of confused by it, and I think that's what I found |
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sekjal |
that was a lot of operations back, and my mental history file only so long |
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hdl |
hi |
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hilongo |
hi hdl :) |
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jcamins |
slef++ # I've been wishing someone would put explanations for sysprefs onto the wiki |
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nengard |
jcamins - what kind of explanation? what they do? cause that's in the manual? or how to add prefs to the code? |
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slef |
how to add prefs to the code |
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slef |
check wiki recent changes |
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slef |
or koha-patches list email |
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wizzyrea |
http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]system_preference |
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jcamins |
The latter. |
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jcamins |
I need these things in very simple language. ;) |
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jcamins |
chris_n++ # for providing slef with the explanation that is now on the wiki |
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* chris_n |
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jwagner |
I'm still a bit confused, though. Since I do patches that are meant for several levels of code, am I correct in believing that it won't _hurt_ anything to submit a patch at current head that also has the sysprefs.sql updates? |
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jwagner |
And conversely, if I do a patch at a lower level, the yaml stuff won't hurt it? |
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jwagner |
Or do I need to do separate patches depending on the level? |
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jwagner |
gmcharlt? |
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pentarex |
hey can koha users use different library cards for different library i mean if I have library card for library Centerville can I use other for Union ? |
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slef |
pentarex: yes, but the borrower accounts won't be linked AFAICR |
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sekjal |
pentarex: slef is right; you'd have to have two separate patron records for each barcode |
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* slef |
boogies |
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gmcharlt |
jwagner: correct - do both |
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pentarex |
10x for the answer |
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nengard |
got a question - does the last seen date get updated when editing items (in batches or one by one)? |
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jwagner |
gmcharlt, two separate patches? |
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gmcharlt |
single, preferably |
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jwagner |
OK, one patch with both the .pref change and the .sql change? |
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davi |
Is already in the wiki the re-licensing option: AGPLv3+, GPLv3+, as now |
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davi |
in the wiki, with its description, so that we can review them |
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davi |
as I promised |
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kf |
owen: around? |
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owen |
Yes |
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kf |
bug 5178 |
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munin |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5178 normal, P5, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED, New order from suggestion pulls wrong field for copyright date |
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kf |
I have a patch for part of that problem that, it's a UNIMARC/MARC21 problem |
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kf |
if you order from a suggestion a new marc record is created, unimarc has no mapping to copyrightdate, it has publicationyear |
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kf |
ah |
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kf |
perhaps I am wrong, my patch addresses new orders from nothing |
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slef |
owen: did I ever find out what you wanted a few days ago? |
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owen |
slef: If only I could remember what it was about... |
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kf |
owen: I was talking about bug 5090 |
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munin |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5090 critical, PATCH-Sent, ---, katrin.fischer, NEW, New order from empty record does not save publication year and ISBN |
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owen |
Thanks kf, I'll take a look at the patch to see if it applies to my bug as well. |
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owen |
Does copyright date not exist in UNIMARC, or is it a matter of which date it prefers? |
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kf |
owen: did not want to cause confusion |
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kf |
it's the standard mapping |
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kf |
marc21: 260c = copyrightdate |
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kf |
unimar: ??? = publicationyear, no mapping for copyrightdate, marc21 no mapping for publicationyear |
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owen |
Hence no end of headaches for all of us |
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kf |
yep |
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kf |
but suggestions is a table, as long as no marc record is created, your problem might be different |
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kf |
but perhaps the confusion is caused by this fact |
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nengard |
got a question - does the last seen date get updated when editing items (in batches or one by one)? |
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kf |
it took me a week to find and solve the problem - I m still very slow at those things - but chris tested my patch |
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jcamins |
nengard: yes, it seems to. |
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nengard |
thanks |
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owen |
I wonder if the French translation of Koha takes care of the "publication year" vs. "copyright date" labels? |
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kf |
I think the difference is not even very clear in marc21 |
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kf |
not to me |
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kf |
in German I use Erscheinungsjahr everywhere |
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owen |
kf++ |
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owen |
Your patch takes care of my bug as well |
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kf |
oh cool :) |
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kf |
I thought it was different because of suggestion vs. new order from empty : |
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kf |
owen: not sure it is actually a bug, but if you enter something like "unknown" into publication year, it will be deleted |
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kf |
or not deleted, it's in the record, but there is code so that only the numeric part of the entry is saved to publication year or copyright date |
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owen |
Probably the same code that turnes "c. 1990" into a numeric date. |
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kf |
yes |
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kf |
so if you have no numbers, it will show nothing |
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kf |
because the display pulls not from the record, but from the database |
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kf |
this was very confusing for me at the beginning, because I was testing the fields with entries like "title" "year" ... |
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owen |
nengard: Thanks, and sorry I missed Bug 4829 when I was searching for the issue in Bugzilla |
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munin |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4829 normal, P5, ---, henridamien, RESOLVED DUPLICATE, publication year in suggestion going to zero |
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nengard |
no prob - we all explain them diff and that's what happens |
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kf |
owen: have you tested the bug for your problem? |
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nengard |
i have a lot of bugs around that one with things not carrying over |
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nengard |
bug 4833 |
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munin |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4833 minor, P5, ---, henridamien, NEW, show all fields when ordering from suggestion |
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nengard |
and bug 4830 |
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munin |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4830 normal, P5, ---, henridamien, NEW, item type on purchase suggestion not carried over |
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owen |
nengard: Bug 4833 was actually the bug I started out looking at, but thought mine was different in scope |
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nengard |
oh okay |
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nengard |
those are just the ones i have with values in suggestions not coming over to the order |
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owen |
There's a whole can of worms around bug 4830 (and bug 4832) related to the fact that suggestions might use ccode or itype depending on your configuration |
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munin |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4832 major, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED, Re-editing a suggestion changes the item type |
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kf |
owen: I am not sure users understand how to use colleactions and itypes, we will probably kill these fields with jquery from the suggestions form in the opac |
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owen |
Suggestions follow the AdvancedSearchTypes preference |
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owen |
kf: I think you will not be the first. It's a very librarianish kind of field to offer |
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owen |
And honestly, "publication place?" What use is that? |
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kf |
I am quite it was what the customer wanted |
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kf |
but you are right about it :) |
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kf |
and the order from empty form does offer less fields than the suggestion forms in the opac |
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owen |
I can just see it: "Well, we tried to find the book you requested, but the one we found was published in Boston, and you said it was published in New York." |
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kf |
lol |
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kf |
I don't think they will fill it in |
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jcamins |
owen: actually, I can see that mattering. |
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kf |
jcamins: but why have publication place in suggestions, but not in the order then? |
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jcamins |
kf: there's a bug in the order section? |
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jcamins |
I don't think it's a very common occurrence, but in academic settings the "same" book might be published in two places with different features (for example, New York has the CD, Boston doesn't). |
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owen |
jcamins: With the same ISBN? |
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jcamins |
owen: hm. |
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jcamins |
Maybe not. |
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jcamins |
Good point. |
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jcamins |
You can just ignore me... I'm not used to these new-fangled ISBN things. |
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jcamins |
They didn't have them in the 17th century. |
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* owen |
admires/hates the ability of catalogers to give an exception to every example ;) |
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owen |
Has there been discussion of deprecating biblio-level itemtypes altogether? |
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jcamins |
Nnnoooooo!!!! |
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* owen |
will pretend he didn't mention it |
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jcamins |
We use biblio-level itemtypes to deal with the fact that much of our catalog is analytics, which at present can't be linked to physical items. |
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sekjal |
jcamins: well, once we solve that problem, though... killing biblio-level itemtypes would work? |
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* sekjal |
has a draft spec for analytics |
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jcamins |
Yes. |
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kf |
I all for killing them, they are still messing with things |
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kf |
I am... oh so many typos today |
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jcamins |
I was going to say, once sekjal et. al. solve that problem, though, I would wholeheartedly support eliminating them. |
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kf |
time to leave for me :) |
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kf |
sekjal++ ;) |
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kf |
jcamins: I wish you a very happy day tomorrow! |
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kf |
bye all :) |
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* owen |
was thinking about itemtypes because of Bug 4841 |
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munin |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4841 normal, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, Advanced search returns 0 results if the itemtype have no items |
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owen |
Hey, it's the birthday girl! |
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wizzyrea |
:) hi |
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owen |
I hope it's going well |
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wizzyrea |
so far so good |
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nengard |
happy birthday wizzyrea! |
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wizzyrea |
:D thanks |
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nengard |
when did you upgrade the koha site? somehow i missed the change :) hehe |
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jcamins |
Happy birthday, wizzyrea! |
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gmcharlt |
wizzyrea: happy birthday! |
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joetho |
HB??? |
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joetho |
Yikes! |
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joetho |
I'm gonna jump in the car and go serenade her!! |
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cait |
hi koha |
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joetho |
bib itemtypes: at least rename them |
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indradg |
wizzyrea, happy birthday :) |
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* chris_n |
wishes wizzyrea happy birthday |
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cait |
wizzyrea: happy, happy birthday ! |
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* wizzyrea |
feels the love |
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wizzyrea |
thanks everybody :) |
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larsw |
wizzyrea, hyv�� syntym�p�iv�� |
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wizzyrea |
lars: finnish? |
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larsw |
yup |
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wizzyrea |
^.^ |
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* wizzyrea |
has been (very briefly) to finland |
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larsw |
everyone has, it seems |
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wizzyrea |
:) thanks |
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* wizzyrea |
thinks that if she had another kid, she'd name him lars. Such a great name |
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larsw |
heh |
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wizzyrea |
then I'd have a soren and a lars. A matched set. :) |
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larsw |
I'd recommend against it, actually, there's a huge social stigma in the name Lars |
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wizzyrea |
hm, interesting |
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wizzyrea |
how so? |
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larsw |
in every movie with a character named Lars, they're a stupid henchman who dies in scene 4 |
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wizzyrea |
lol |
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wizzyrea |
like the red shirt guy in star trek? |
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larsw |
exactly |
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jcamins |
I guess this is why normal people take the day before their wedding off... focus is kind of difficult. |
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wizzyrea |
>.> |
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reva |
Hi anyone, where in the admin module will I find the "Shelving Location" (such as Audio visual, Children's, etc.) so that I can add/edi locations to/in it? |
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wizzyrea |
do you have a bridezilla, or a pretty laid back spouse-to-be |
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wizzyrea |
it's an authorized value |
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reva |
wizzyrea: where you responding to me? |
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* jcamins |
giggles |
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wizzyrea |
yep, sorry I left off your name |
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jcamins |
wizzyrea: I like the juxtaposition. |
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wizzyrea |
the 2nd line was for you, the first for jcamins ;) |
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jcamins |
My fiancee's very laid-back. |
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wizzyrea |
jcamins: oh good. |
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jcamins |
As demonstrated by the fact that she wasn't too troubled by the fact that I am working today, and Monday. |
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sekjal |
jcamins: just had my first anniversary. Last year at this time we were just getting back from our honeymoon, and I had to make my library's Koha system go live in 3 days |
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wizzyrea |
! ok, working monday might be a bit excessive |
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jcamins |
(and Tuesday-Friday next week, of course) |
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jcamins |
sekjal: thank goodness I don't have to do that! |
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* wizzyrea |
fights the urge to say terribly inappropriate things |
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reva |
wizzyrea: so I cannot (even as an administrator) edit these pre-selected values for the shelving location? |
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jcamins |
wizzyrea: my boss is out, and anyway, my fiancee is going to have tons of homework... her PhD classes started ten minutes ago. |
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wizzyrea |
yep, you can. Under Administration -> authorized values |
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jcamins |
reva: no, you can edit them. You have to go to the Authorized Values page to change them. |
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reva |
oh, ok, I will check that out now, wizzyrea: |
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wizzyrea |
i think it's under type LOC |
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wizzyrea |
oof , well ok then I guess I'll let you off jcamins |
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jcamins |
We managed to schedule everything imaginable in the last week of August/first week of September. |
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jcamins |
Although moving fell through (yes, that was originally planned for this past week) |
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wizzyrea |
!! |
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wizzyrea |
ok, that's almost as crazy as us moving 2 weeks before the due date of our baby |
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wizzyrea |
(I don't recommend doing that, by the way) |
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jcamins |
No, I can't imagine that was fun. |
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jcamins |
Or pleasant. |
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owen |
Oh yeah, we did the same, only two weeks after the baby was born |
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schuster |
very interesting to drop into the middle of that conversation... |
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schuster |
Starting with "I don't recommend doing that..." |
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wizzyrea |
owen: yes, that is equivalently crazy |
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reva |
wizzyrea: got it. Thanks. I know this is not the place for it: But in my virtualbox install, I am not able to resize the guest desktop or bi-directional clipboard. I ran sudo blah blah upgrade, etc. but still no effect. Any ideas for solutions? |
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owen |
reva: You have to "install guest additions" |
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wizzyrea |
erm, since my computer got stolen I haven't even looked at virtualbox, but try owen's solution |
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owen |
reva: What's your host OS? |
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reva |
owen: my host OS is Windows XP and everything in Koha functions ok. |
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owen |
reva: You should have a menu option in your VirtualBox window: Devices -> Install Guest Additions |
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owen |
This should mount a virtual drive which will appear on your Linux desktop |
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reva |
well, I did and from the developer I got the info that the guest kernel has to updated. That is why I ran sudo apt-get dist-upgrade. I followed all the instructions, still no clipboard or desktop resize possible |
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reva |
owen: I did get a folder on my desktop with the folders from the guestaddition iso and I ran the autorunx86 (I forget the exact name) but still no result. |
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owen |
reva: Did you restart your Guest OS? |
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reva |
owen: I tried that too:( |
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Braedon |
reva: you have to install guest addons every time you update the kernel |
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reva |
I mean restarted the machine as well as the VirtualBox itself. |
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reva |
Braedon: which is what I did and I got the all the files from the iso in a folder on my desktop; I ran the autorun for x86 linux. |
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Braedon |
reva: just checking :) |
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reva |
no, you were right to ask, because though I started my computing with command line terminals on UNIX, it has been a long time doing anything that way and as raw steps. |
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owen |
reva: Did the autorun program seem to run correctly? Did you end up with a terminal window which said "press enter to continue" or something like that? |
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reva |
owen: no I did not get that "press enter to continue". |
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owen |
It sounds like it didn't run properly, based on my experience. |
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owen |
I run Ubuntu on a Windows 7 host. |
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reva |
ok, I will try it again tomorrow: funnily, the response to the command to mount the cdrom said it did not find any such folder, it nevertheless copied the files to a folder on to the desktop. |
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owen |
reva: I have never seen it copy files to a folder |
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owen |
reva: letting the cdrom auto-run always runs the program in a terminal window |
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Braedon |
ubuntu does show the mounted drive as a shortcut on the desktop - do you mean that reva? |
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reva |
owen: what should it put on the desktop? Following are instructions I got: > sudo -i > mount /dev/cdrom /cdrom > cd /cdrom > ./VBoxLinuxAdditions-x86.run - Wait for it to finish then reboot. |
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Braedon |
ahh |
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reva |
owen: forgot to put separator character for the commands. |
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Braedon |
sounds like you have a copy of the addons inside the guest os? |
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reva |
Yes Braedon. |
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reva |
Now, the copy of the folder on the desktop was no loger there when I rebooted!! |
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Braedon |
what is in /dev/cdrom? |
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Braedon |
probly not the best question.. |
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reva |
No it was not a shortcut, it was a folder with all the different files that e guestadditions iso had. Because they did not have the shortcut arrow on them. |
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Braedon |
un, i mean how are you giving the virtual machine the disk to put in the virtual cdrom drive |
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Braedon |
what your commands do is mount /dev/cdrom to the /cdrom folder |
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reva |
You know, I thought the instructions must have meant fill in your drive name where it said cdrom. but I left it as it was. |
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Braedon |
once you restart, that mount will not happen again, so the folder is not there |
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Braedon |
you shouldn't need to do that at all |
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Braedon |
ubuntu can mount the cd drive for you |
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Braedon |
o, wait |
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Braedon |
unless you are running headless? |
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reva |
ok, so starting from scratch what should I do? |
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Braedon |
sorry, not thinking straight. far too little sleep of late. Lets start again |
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jcamins |
reva: just to check, you tried following the instructions from the developer again after updating your kernel, right? |
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Braedon |
windows host, ubuntu guest. What ubuntu version are you running? server/desktop? |
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reva |
Braedon: it is server 10.04. |
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Braedon |
ok |
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reva |
I will give you the page address where the instructions are (it is at the bottom of the web page):http://mizstik.com/projects/koha-livecd/ |
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Braedon |
first make sure that you have nothing in the virtual cd drive - virtualbox is not good at working with linux with regards to ejecting drives |
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Braedon |
if you go devices->CD/DVD drives, is anything ticked? |
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reva |
Breadon: ok, I will empty it. |
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reva |
No, nothing is checked under devices->CD/DVD drive. |
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Braedon |
ok |
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Braedon |
select devices->install-guest-addons |
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Braedon |
if virtualbox asks to download a new version of hte addons, allow it to do so |
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reva |
ok, I did the select devices-> install -guest-addons; now it has ticked the VBoxguestaddons.iso |
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reva |
Braedon, when I looked in the Oracle folder there was guestaddition file there, so it has added it from there. |
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Braedon |
ok, just a sec - need to cnfirm some things |
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reva |
Ok, will wait |
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Braedon |
ok, try 'sudo mount /dev/sr0 /media/cdrom0' |
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reva |
Braedon, I will try that now. |
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reva |
Braedon, it says mount point /media/cdrom0 does not exist |
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Braedon |
ok, sudo mkdir /media/cdrom0 |
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jcamins |
reva: I guess you decided to run your server off the VM permanently? |
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Braedon |
and then the mount command again |
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jcamins |
(if you have, make sure you have enough disk space configured for the VM!) |
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reva |
For now, until I test all the features on Koha. But I have iso cd of the Live CD and I will be installing it to our hard drive in days. |
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reva |
ok, I will try the mkdir command now. |
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reva |
ok it has created a directory on my desktop:) |
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Braedon |
ok, try running 'sudo /media/cdrom0/VBoxLinuxAdditions-x86.run' |
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Braedon |
what does that say? |
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reva |
mount: block device dev/sr0 is write protected, mounting read-only is the response I got Braedon |
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Braedon |
from the mount command? |
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Braedon |
if so, that should be ok |
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reva |
yes, from the mount command. |
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Braedon |
have you tried 'sudo /media/cdrom0/VBoxLinuxAdditions-x86.run'? what does that say? |
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reva |
ok, I will try the next command you have asked me to try now. |
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wizzyrea |
can someone tell me |
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wizzyrea |
ok |
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wizzyrea |
wow. |
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jcamins |
wizzyrea: ? |
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wizzyrea |
when you reorder the holds in a queue |
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wizzyrea |
does it update the timestamp on every one |
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wizzyrea |
? |
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reva |
I am trying that now. |
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wizzyrea |
it's not something you would be able to tell through the web interface |
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wizzyrea |
I don't htink |
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wizzyrea |
think* |
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wizzyrea |
you'd have to pull the data from the DB |
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wizzyrea |
to see it |
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jcamins |
We don't use holds, so I'm afraid I can't advise. |
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reva |
ok, it is outputting a whole bunch checks and verifications now Braedon |
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wizzyrea |
maybe owen would know, I know he's poked about the holds some |
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Braedon |
reva: ok, watch the output and see if it looks liek it is succeeding |
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owen |
I don't know, but I'm testing |
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wizzyrea |
or I could just go test the dang thing. |
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reva |
it says it is building the guest additions kernels. |
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owen |
wizzyrea: The answer is yes |
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Braedon |
reva: yip. sounds good |
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reva |
It is installing all the drivers:) |
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wizzyrea |
Aha |
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owen |
Although, in my test, it didn't touch the one which was "waiting" |
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wizzyrea |
right |
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wizzyrea |
that's what I saw too. |
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owen |
Actually now I wonder if it would touch *all* of them, or just the ones which needed to be touched in order to re-order? |
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wizzyrea |
my evidence seems to bear that theory out |
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wizzyrea |
sec |
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reva |
now it is pausing for a while. is that normal, braedon:? |
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Braedon |
it may take a while, yes |
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Braedon |
hopefully it will complete within a few minutes :) |
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reva |
Ok, I will be patient:) |
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wizzyrea |
http://screencast.com/t/OWJlODBlMz |
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wizzyrea |
T's are transit, obviously. |
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Braedon |
reva: assuming it completes with no error messages, try restarting. If it doesn't work then, the only thing i can think of is that virtualbox has an old version of the addons, and it hasn't detected that. Try deleting the addons iso from wherever it is getting it on the host os. this should prompt it to download the latest version when you try and load it next via devices->install guest addons |
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reva |
previous was the MAIN guest addition module, now it is building guest additions module (non-MAIN, I guess); yes, if it does not work, I will try that. I can call up the irc log and follow instructions, Braedon. |
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chris |
Morning |
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wizzyrea |
Good Morning New Zealand! |
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jcamins |
Morning. |
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Braedon |
howdy |
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Braedon |
(just to be different) |
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chris |
What's cracka lacking? |
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chris |
(Its Friday :)) |
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jcamins |
Not here. |
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jcamins |
And it's driving me batty! ;) |
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Braedon |
it is indeed friday (here) |
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chris |
Wedding tomorrow? |
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Braedon |
and what a miserable looking friday it is |
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reva |
Bradeon, I empty the CD/DVD drive after I reboot, correct? |
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chris |
Not too bad down here |
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jcamins |
chris: Yep. |
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Braedon |
up here it is a gray dome of dreariness |
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owen |
chris is here, must be time for me to leave! |
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owen |
Bye all! |
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chris |
jcamins: all the best for the big day, try not to stress :) |
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reva |
Braedon, it has worked. Ths desktop is now bigger!:) |
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reva |
And let me try the clipboard function now. |
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Braedon |
reva: awesome |
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jcamins |
chris: Thanks. I'm not too stressed out about it, just excited. |
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chris |
That's the perfect way to be |
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jcamins |
:) |
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reva |
now, I still see the virtualcd it had copied to the desktop. So, do I empty my CD/DVD drive and then the next time I reboot it will go away? |
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reva |
ipboard working too. |
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reva |
that is supposed to be clipboard. |
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reva |
Bradeon, you are the man:) |
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Braedon |
if you go places->computer, or open any location actually, there should be a entry in the left side bar for the CD, with an eject symbol next to it. |
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Braedon |
if there is, click on the symbol |
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chris |
Braedon, when does your semester end? |
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chris |
Before oct 25? |
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Braedon |
i think it ends on October the 15th |
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reva |
k, I will eject it and it should run fromt the drivers that have been installed in the ubuntu machine now, right? |
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Braedon |
chris: but then we have up to 3 weeks of exams - so perhaps.. |
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chris |
Ahhh |
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Braedon |
reva: that will unmount it, and it should disapear from the desktop. the addons themselves have been installed, and it should continue to run fine |
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Phil |
Hi ! I have a question about koha : can I use the concept of a clerk in the check out process ? I want to be able to specify a clerk for each check out, and later see what item are checked out for a certain clerk... is that possible ? |
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reva |
Braedon, should I also release the VBoxguestaddtions.iso from the CD drive? |
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Braedon |
reva: when you mount a device such as a CD drive, Ubuntu detects it and places links to it in various places, such as the side bar, and on the desktop. these are not strictly shortcuts, but effectivly do the same thing. |
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Braedon |
reva: yes, that should be fine |
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reva |
ok, I got it. It is just I seem have a block when it come to virtualization:). Thanks tremendously. |
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chris |
I totally don't understand what you mean phil |
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Phil |
lol |
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Phil |
do you understand what i mean by clerk ?.... when you buy something in a store... the guy at the register is the clerk... hes the one that handled the transaction |
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reva |
Now, reva if off to Gautemala for a much looked for vacation and good mexican food, yo'all> Good evening. |
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Phil |
i want to be able to introduce the concept of the "transaction guy" in a transaction |
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chris |
Ah you want a log of who processed the issue? |
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Phil |
yup |
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chris |
Yeah statistics table |
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chris |
Stores that |
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Phil |
but not just a log... i want be able to know what items are checkout by the guy |
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Phil |
suppose the clerk name Bob helped 3 clients with checkouts... each client checked out 1 book... well i want to be able to see the 3 books that are out and that Bob handled |
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Phil |
do you understand ? |
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wizzyrea |
you want to know which books bob put his fingerprints on |
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chris |
Yep |
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wizzyrea |
makes sense to me. |
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Phil |
yep |
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Phil |
and bob is not the client.... hes my employe |
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wizzyrea |
right |
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chris |
I'm pretty sure a report on statistics will do that, but id have to check |
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wizzyrea |
do you have a problem employee? |
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wizzyrea |
>.> |
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Phil |
:P |
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wizzyrea |
heh |
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chris |
If not it would be a very small change |
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* wizzyrea |
is always on the lookout for people problems in search of a technological solution. |
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chris |
Ok that's my bus stop |
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chris |
Back after coffee |
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Phil |
i thought i could use some kind of workaround with the librairies... i could do as if each employee was an independant library... then i could see what each library was doing.... only problem is i want the stock of items to be shared... |
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Phil |
if library 1 gets a book, i want the others to get the same book and the same quantity |
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Phil |
I know it's a bit far fechted |
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jcamins |
Phil: I would think that dealing with the HR issues would be preferable, but you could have separate branches if you wanted. |
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Phil |
can you sync the stock between branches ? |
| 20:03 |
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jcamins |
(though note that I have never tried this- I just know that it's possible to set it up so that any branch can check out any book) |
| 20:03 |
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jcamins |
You would only have one record for each item. |
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Braedon |
how do you need to view the info? if the data needed to calculate it is logged somewhere, could you use a script to generate it? Would be a lot easier to write a script than a new full feature to do it within Koha |
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Phil |
if branch 1 get 3 copies of a book.... will the other branches get the same qty ? |
| 20:04 |
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Phil |
.... nice |
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Phil |
i like it |
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Phil |
1 robot piece for you my friend |
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Phil |
(to Braedon) |
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* Braedon |
installs new robot piece |
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Braedon |
(it wurrs and beeps technologically) |
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Phil |
:D |
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Phil |
I will leave you on that cheerful note... thanks a lot to everyone for your help ! |
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* Braedon |
's new part beeps "no problem" |
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richard |
hi |
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chris |
hiya richard |
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wizzyrea |
hi richard :) |
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richard |
hi chris and wizzyrea |
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jcamins |
Hello. |
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jcamins |
Good night, #koha |
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jcamins |
If you see me online tomorrow morning... remind me that it *is* Friday. ;) |
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chris |
hehe will do |
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chris |
"GO GET MARRIED!!!" |
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wizzyrea |
yea, SHOO |
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jcamins_a |
Bye. |
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richard |
heh |
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jcamins_a |
You know what, I think I'll do just that! |
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* wizzyrea |
claps |
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wizzyrea |
it's a good thing his fiancé is easy going lol |
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chris |
hehe |
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chris |
hi LBA |
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LBA |
howdy |
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chris |
booked your ticket to NZ yet? |
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chris |
:) |
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LBA |
:'( sadly I won't be there.... |
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chris |
bummer |
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chris |
heya anitsirk :) |
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anitsirk |
hey chris. |
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chris |
ok, off to discuss contracts, fun fun fun |
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wizzyrea |
oof |
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wizzyrea |
gl |
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chris |
bbiab |
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sekjal |
did anyone know that there was a manual_match option in Stage MARC Records for Import? |
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chris |
yup |
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sekjal |
I'm so very excited |
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chris |
havent ever tried it though .. does it work? |
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sekjal |
well... haven't seen that particular proof yet |
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sekjal |
system is hanging on me |
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chris |
working from home today alan? |
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sekjal |
okay, manually adjusting the import data in the database doesn't so much work |
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sekjal |
but I was able to run a query to get me what I wanted, so I'm happy |
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chris |
sweet |
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sekjal |
story was: had 6 corrupted MARCXML records (marc blob was fine) that I couldn't edit in the staff client |
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chris |
ah yeah |
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chris |
we should build a subroutine, rebuild_xml_from_marc |
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chris |
that you pass a biblionumber |
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wizzyrea |
^^ would be super handy |
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chris |
it sure would |
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wizzyrea |
or capture those fatal errors that it causes, and put a button on it that says "rebuild this" |
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sekjal |
I ran a report to get the marc blobs, saved to file, then reimported through Stage MARC records |
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sekjal |
very sloppy, but worked well enough |
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chris |
ohh that idea is even better wizzyrea |
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chris |
sekjal: neat workaround ;) |
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sekjal |
jcamins and slef helped me out |
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chris |
wizzyrea: you'll send a patch tomorrow? *grin* |
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wizzyrea |
man, gimme a long time and you might have that. |
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chris |
:) |
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chris |
it shouldnt be too bad |
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chris |
select marc from biblioitems where biblionumber = |
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chris |
make a marc::record object from that |
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chris |
update bibliotems set marcxml = ? where biblionumber = ? |
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chris |
$record->as_xml() |
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chris |
and stick a row in zebraqueue |
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sekjal |
I was working on a script to do this; hit a snag with bad characters on decode |
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chris |
you can tell MARC::Charset to be less strict |
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chris |
which im guess the stage marc must do, or it would run into the same decode issues |
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sekjal |
I'll check up on that... making a note now (almost time to go) |
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sekjal |
and now is that time. cheers, #koha! |
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chris |
cya |
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wizzyrea |
and for me too. I get grown up time tonight! |
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wizzyrea |
WHEE! |
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hehe |
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