IRC log for #koha, 2010-08-27

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03:22 Amit heya chris
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06:26 hdl later tell gmcharlt congrats
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06:26 munin hdl: The operation succeeded.
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07:18 paul_p hello ppl.
07:19 paul_p impossible to connect here through xchat : "Closing Link: (Too many host connections (local))"
07:19 paul_p thanks mibbit
07:20 paul_p should I send a mail to some katipo sysadmin ?
07:20 paul_p we now are 10 in our office, so it will happen frequently that we are many connected to this channel...
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07:23 kf good morning #koha
07:40 paul_p hi kf
07:48 hdl chris around ?
07:50 hdl any american ppl ?
07:55 wasabi paul_p:  is the problem 'local' to your office network?
07:56 hdl looks so.
07:56 hdl ( paul_p and I share the same office)
07:57 wasabi hmm, i dont think so...
07:57 wasabi the katipo IRC daemon, thinks your office IP has too many connections?
07:57 hdl yep
07:57 wasabi so is limiting your connections,
07:57 wasabi ok...
07:58 wasabi set up a dirc-proxy , on your network...
07:58 hdl I think this could be a soluction
07:58 wasabi and everyone connects to your office dirc-proxy, etc...
07:59 wasabi yeah, or Si increases the connection-limit for ircd-ratbox
07:59 wasabi but, a good *temp* solution
08:00 wasabi well, irc proxies are good for other things too :)
08:00 wasabi 'always-on' irc etc..
08:01 wasabi quassel is my fav,
08:10 kf hi paul, hdl and wasabi :)
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08:51 magnus g'day #koha
08:55 kf hi magnus :)
08:55 magnus hiya kf
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11:41 kf hi jwagner and druthb :)
11:42 druthb Hi, kf!  :D
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11:54 jwagner Hi kf
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11:59 owen Hi #koha
11:59 kf hi owen :)
11:59 kf you make me so happy by fixing translation bugs! :)
12:00 kf owen++
12:03 * owen is very happy to do it
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12:20 schuster Howdy all.
12:21 owen Hi schuster
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12:25 MisterA Any fe,ale?
12:25 MisterA female?
12:25 MisterA wanna hav a good time?
12:25 owen MisterA, this channel is for discussing Koha software
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12:26 Braedon ...interesting...
12:26 owen And any females here are already having a good time discussing Koha I should think
12:27 Braedon i should hope so
12:27 jwagner Hmmmmm.
12:27 * jwagner checks. Am I having a good time? Well, it's Friday!
12:41 * druthb concurs with jwagner.  Much easier to have fun on Fridays.
12:42 jwagner Even easier to have fun on Saturdays....
12:42 druthb well, yes.
12:44 * druthb thought about saying something to MisterA, just to watch him squirm.  Man-people like that sort tend to get a little bit freaky around woman-people of my sort.
12:45 owen What kind of moron joins a random IRC channel and asks "any female?" Does that ever work?!
12:45 kf Sundays are not so much fun as Saturdays
12:45 kf owen: I really hope not
12:45 druthb You might be surprised, owen, at what will work out on the hinterlands of the network.  But yeah, that one seems a little bit silly.
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12:53 owen gmcharlt: Bug 5180 is all yours. I really don't want to dig into that YUI code if I don't have to!
12:53 munin Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5180 normal, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, Autocomplete broken on overdues report
13:04 gmcharlt owen: fun; although with any luck hopefully it will just be a bug in usage of YUI, not a bug in YUI itself
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13:19 schuster ok owen - or whomever jquery question.  I'm trying to learn this and I need to change a "row" header.
13:19 owen Go on...
13:19 schuster on overdue.tmpl - where it says library I want to change that to homeroom.
13:20 owen $("#overduest th").eq(2).text("Homeroom");
13:21 schuster Why even learn when there is a genius in the room...
13:21 owen I'll walk you through it if you'd like
13:24 owen ?
13:25 schuster I think I get it - I found the overduest which is the "element"
13:25 kf unique id :)
13:25 owen It's the unique id of the "target" for our js
13:26 schuster OK - but then what is the eq(2)
13:26 schuster I NEVER would have come up with that.
13:27 owen The "#overduest th" means we're finding a "collection" of all the <th> tags
13:27 schuster ok
13:28 owen the ".eq(2)" means that we want only the <th> whose "index" is 2
13:28 owen You count the <th> tags starting from 0: 0, 1, 2
13:28 owen #2 is our target <th>
13:30 schuster Ok that was my next question about the 0 .ok well I think I understand that one modification but every page is slightly different and each mod is as well.  So I may be back!
13:30 schuster I'm reading your blog post on jquery which I may play with later as they want the wording to change above the login next.
13:30 schuster owen - the great as always!
13:32 jwagner @quote add <schuster> Why even learn when there is a genius in the room...
13:32 munin jwagner: The operation succeeded.  Quote #92 added.
13:32 druthb @quote random
13:32 munin druthb: Quote #34: "<chris> oh except that time .. when katipo decided to write an ils just for fun, then forced HLT to use it" (added by gmcharlt at 02:23 PM, September 16, 2009)
13:32 owen schuster: If you need some tough love, next time you ask I can tell you to buzz off ;)
13:33 jwagner owen, you had a blog post on enlittling the login box, which seemed to put it on the top login line.  I had a site that wanted to keep it where it was, just smaller in size, & I figured out how to do that.
13:35 schuster nah...  Tough love is overrated when it comes to programming...:)
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13:35 owen Hi Lori
13:36 schuster So just to clarify - you can change labels like this but if I wanted the data in that column to be different from branchcode to address that actually has to be changed in the template?
13:37 owen Yes
13:37 schuster ok drat.  Thanks!
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13:48 LBA Good morning Owen and all
14:03 kf habe a nice weekend all #koha :)
14:03 kf bye :)
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14:53 magnus have a nice weekend, #koha
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15:02 ivanc hi all
15:03 * wizzy_awa does a check for jcamins...
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15:03 wizzyrea good. he's off getting married. As it should be.
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15:17 ivanc I've installed koha just for testing how can enable different language? I've try with
15:17 ivanc test:/usr/share/koha/misc/translator# ./ install -i /usr/share/koha/opac/htdocs/opac-tmpl/prog/en -o /usr/share/koha/opac/htdocs/opac-tmpl/prog/it-IT/ -s
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16:36 CGI825 Hello,
16:36 owen Hi CGI825
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16:39 CGI825 Hi I have never done this before but I have a question.  We recently upgraded to KOHA 3.0 and my problem is when we finish catlaoging a record it doesn't show up in the card catalog but it is there somewhere because I was able to check it out?  I have gone through the admin stuff and I just can't find the problem? Any thought?
16:40 owen Check this:[…]on/faq/searching/
16:42 wizzyrea hey owen, how would you go about selecting one of these buttons ( in jquery?
16:42 wizzyrea i've tried every way I can think of and I'm just not getting it
16:43 owen What are you trying to do?
16:43 CGI825 thanks
16:43 wizzyrea hide the print button (don't ask)
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16:44 owen $("#printbiblioc").hide();
16:44 wizzyrea see I tried that... let me try again.
16:44 owen That worked for me in the Firebug console
16:44 wizzyrea maybe I just did something dumb (likely)
16:45 owen Oh wait... unless that element is being created by javascript
16:45 owen wizzyrea: nengard and I worked on a problem like this the other day
16:46 owen You may have to wrap that in a separate "$(window).load(function(){"instead of your standard "$(document).ready()"
16:46 wizzyrea hmm
16:46 wizzyrea I will try that (I never would have gotten to there, lol)
16:47 owen If you try to use document.ready() on an element which is created during the same document.ready() you have problems.
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16:47 owen $(window).load() fires after $(document).ready
16:48 wizzyrea so the $(window).load goes inside the document ready?
16:48 wizzyrea (just so I'm clear
16:48 wizzyrea )
16:48 owen No, after it
16:48 wizzyrea Aha, ok
17:07 wizzyrea owen: that was totally it
17:07 wizzyrea thank you.
17:07 owen Cool
17:07 wizzyrea owen++
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17:07 wizzyrea I thought I was losing my mind
17:07 wizzyrea lol
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17:10 jwagner wizzyrea/owen, can you add that example to the wiki page?  I wouldn't have known how to do the javascript one either.
17:16 wizzyrea yep, I will
17:16 wizzyrea now
17:16 wizzyrea the real question I have
17:17 wizzyrea is how do you tell if something is being generated by javascript (i'm such a nub...)
17:17 wizzyrea how would I know when to apply that
17:20 jwagner beats the heck out of me :-)
17:32 jwagner Hey, would it make sense to have an equivalent to the OPACUserCSS syspref on the staff side?  A place to enter just a few stylesheet tweaks instead of going for a whole auxiliary stylesheet?
17:42 wizzyrea[…]e-with-virtualbox
17:43 wizzyrea I always do it by escaping intranetuserjs
17:43 wizzyrea jwagner
17:44 wizzyrea so </script><style> style stuff </style> <script> $(document).ready
17:44 wizzyrea etc
17:44 wizzyrea it's a hack, but it works
17:44 wizzyrea (that wasn't my idea, btw. It was genius of owen)
17:45 owen jwagner: Bug 3381
17:45 munin Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3381 enhancement, P5, ---, paul.poulain, NEW, Add an IntranetUserCSS system preference
17:47 owen wizzyrea: One way to tell if something is generated by javascript is to turn off javascript and examine the difference
17:48 wizzyrea Ah, very good point.
17:48 wizzyrea simple answer, I like that.
17:49 jwagner wizzyrea, I've seen your examples of that, but I think it may be causing problems elsewhere -- locking up staff side going in and out of admin, for example.  I have a lot of trouble on your site that I don't have anywhere else, and all that script stuff is about the only difference.
17:49 wizzyrea interesting. We haven't heard any complaints of stuff like that you'd have to be specific.
17:50 wizzyrea and my scripts don't do anything but hide things that are weird or wrong.
17:50 wizzyrea or change labels.
17:50 jwagner It's erratic, but usually if I go into your admin (esp sysprefs), then go to something else, then try to go back to admin, the link just doesn't work. You can click on it all day, but it won't go there.  I have to log out & back in.
17:51 wizzyrea I do that exact thing all the time and I have never seen that. Let me go try.
17:51 jwagner Happens in a few other situations too.  Haven't had a chance to troubleshoot, but all those script entries are at the top of my "suspicious" list, just because this doesn't happen on any other server.
17:53 wizzyrea that's weird, I can't make it do that
17:53 wizzyrea in either firefox or chrome
17:54 jwagner Hmmm.  Does it to me almost every time I'm in your system.
17:54 jwagner (Firefox)
18:06 schuster Ok so I have another question - If I have "custom" opac css stuff - can you still use opacuserjq to change stuff?
18:07 owen OPACUserCSS is used for the OPAC
18:07 schuster I put this in to change the verbage on the login to opac - $(document).ready(function(){ $("label[for='Login']").html("User ID"); });
18:08 owen Wait, schuster are you talking about JavaScript or CSS?
18:08 owen What are you trying to do?
18:08 schuster On the page I wanted to change from Login to User ID on the opac login box.
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18:10 owen What you have is JavaScript, not CSS. So it goes in opacuserjs
18:12 schuster but it didn't change the login text so that was why I was asking if I have a plano-opac css if that mattered...  Didn't think it would but I must be missing something else.
18:17 owen schuster: Do you have that snippet wrapped in $(document).ready() ?
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18:21 schuster Yes see above.
18:22 owen schuster: I'm trying to look at but it times out
18:26 schuster Yeah we are dead in the water right now I'm calling my support people...
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18:44 tcohen ppl, have a nice weekend
18:46 owen It looks to me like Bug 1731 is fixed after all. Can anyone confirm?
18:46 munin Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=1731 normal, P3, ---, paul.poulain, NEW, MARC detail screen doesn't know record has no items/isn't for loan
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19:09 schuster owen - well I swapped a jquery I already had in there and it works!
19:10 schuster So if I wanted to change this text on that form - <legend>Log in to Your Account:</legend> how would I do it?
19:12 owen First look to see if it is nested inside an element with a unique id
19:13 schuster would that be the auth?
19:13 schuster <form id="auth" name="auth" method="post" action="/cgi-bin/koha/"> <input type="hidden" value="opac" name="koha_login_context"/> <fieldset class="brief">
19:13 owen Yes
19:14 schuster ok so this is just like what you have posted on your blog still.  Just checking.
19:35 * chris_n prints some very cool patron cards with Koha... after beating out a few bugs
19:44 owen I wondered what prompted the patron card bugs.
19:54 owen See y'all in 10 days
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20:02 schuster WOW 10 days without IRC...
20:03 schuster No wait! 10 days without OWEN!
20:15 wizzyrea now that's a scary thought
20:17 schuster oh Yes!!! Wizzyrea is here to help me now!...  do you feel loved?
20:17 wizzyrea yikes
20:17 schuster :)
20:17 wizzyrea that's kind of like the blind leading the blind ;)
20:18 wizzyrea but I'll do what I can
20:18 schuster Oh I love not being alone...
20:18 schuster I'm trying to remove the picture URL link on the summary display in the opac any hints?
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20:19 wizzyrea do you have an example I could look at?
20:19 schuster sure -[…]pl?q=south+dakota
20:20 schuster We use content cafe so the display is different at times when you click on certain things.  Like you click on the book jacket and it takes you to content cafe.  Which then the kids can't figure out where the call number is.
20:21 wizzyrea you mean the link on the contentcafe images? ok. Hm.
20:21 * wizzyrea did something like this pretty recently
20:21 schuster Yes
20:25 wizzyrea this goes inside $(document).ready() : $('.searchresults a[href*='contentcafe2']').each(function(){
20:25 wizzyrea var $t = jQuery(this);
20:25 wizzyrea $t.after($t.text());
20:25 wizzyrea $t.remove();
20:25 wizzyrea });
20:25 wizzyrea erg sec
20:26 pastebot "wizzyrea" at pasted "remove the links from contentcafe pics" (5 lines) at
20:26 wizzyrea I haven't tested that
20:26 wizzyrea so the selector may be funky
20:28 wizzyrea my first whacks almost never go right.
20:29 schuster Well at least it gave me somthing to look at and explore!
20:31 schuster I've discovered how to remove the image completly! HA....  ok down to serious business just the link...
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20:41 schuster hmmm they have the link before the image display...  this was easy to hack the code...
20:41 schuster No so easy with jquery.
20:46 schuster thanks LIZ!!!  I did this - $ { return false; }); instead of $t.remove(); and it works great!
20:47 wizzyrea cool :)
20:49 schuster whew... OK thanks all for the help today...  It's Friday and time to go home...  busy weekend!
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21:16 moodaepo @wunder 56001
21:16 munin moodaepo: The current temperature in MSU Physics Dept, Mankato, Minnesota is 28.9�C (4:27 PM CDT on August 27, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 54%. Dew Point: 19.0�C. Pressure: 28.91 in 978.9 hPa (Rising).
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21:35 wizzyrea @wunder lawrence, ks
21:35 munin wizzyrea: The current temperature in Channel 6 Downtown, Lawrence, Kansas is 31.7�C (4:46 PM CDT on August 27, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 32%. Dew Point: 13.0�C. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013.1 hPa (Falling).
21:36 wizzyrea about poifect
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