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Amit |
heya brendan, chris |
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brendan |
heya Amit |
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Amit |
hello i m unable to install Graphics::Magick via CPAN |
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Amit |
any idea? |
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robin |
why are you unable to install it? |
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Amit |
robin it's require Method::Signatures |
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Amit |
but in this module there is no Makefile.PL |
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robin |
are you using cpan to install it? |
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Amit |
i have try both cpan/manual |
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robin |
Method::Signature seems to have a lot of dependencies, did they all install successfully? |
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Amit |
Method::Signature creates a problem |
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Amit |
robin: any idea? |
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robin |
not really, I also get errors attempting to install it. |
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robin |
Can you just install the distros libgraphics-magick-perl? |
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Amit |
i have already install this module by rpm |
| 04:57 |
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robin |
then why are you trying to install it again? |
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Amit |
but is show a error while generating a patron card |
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Amit |
[Tue May 25 09:51:42 2010] [error] [client 127.0.0.1] Can't locate Graphics/Magick.pm in @INC (@INC contains: /opt/kohaclone /usr/lib/perl5/5.10.0/i586-linux-thread-multi /usr/lib/perl5/5.10.0 /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.10.0/i586-linux-thread-multi /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.10.0 /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.10.0/i586-linux-thread-multi /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.10.0 /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl .) at /opt/kohaclone/patroncards/create-pdf.pl line 24., referer: h |
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Amit |
ttp://localhost:8081/cgi-bin/koha/patroncards/print.pl |
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robin |
Well, when you installed the RPM, did it install Graphics/Magick.pm in one of those locations? |
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Amit |
robin: I think it's require CPAN module also |
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robin |
well, if there's a distro package, it'll take the place of the CPAN module. |
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Amit |
hmm |
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Amit |
so which is the better way CPAN or RPM |
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robin |
RPM if you can |
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Amit |
k |
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robin |
chris: why, when adding a patron, is zip code mandatory? |
| 05:16 |
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chris |
you can make it not be |
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chris |
you can make whatever you want mandatory |
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chris |
i forget where |
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chris |
somewhere in admin :) |
| 05:19 |
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chris |
system preferences |
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chris |
in the patrons tab |
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chris |
BorrowerMandatoryField |
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chris |
i love searchable sysprefs |
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chris |
pianohacker++ |
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robin |
ah, cool |
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robin |
"Expiration date: 00/02/0" -- that'll be MySQL and it's inifinite wisdom, right? :) |
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chris |
:) |
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chris |
mysql takes the gigo mantra to the limit :) |
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robin |
heh |
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robin |
chris: is it normal for it to sit for a long time after hitting "Stage for Import"? Last time I tried, I don't remember it taking this long. |
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robin |
Oh, it had worked, it just hadn't told me. |
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cait |
morning #koha |
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Amit |
robin: it's work |
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chris |
robin: yeah i think there is a bug with the js, that reports back |
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cait |
hi chris |
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hi cait |
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cait |
I saw the tweets about hlt - grats :) |
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chris |
thanks |
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magnus |
yeah, the hlt opac is looking good! and so is the kete integration. congrats! |
| 07:39 |
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chris |
richard and walter at katipo did tons too |
| 07:40 |
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* chris |
likes it that 2 companies in 'competiton' collaborated together to do it |
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chris |
coopetition as paul_p would say |
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magnus |
coopetition++ |
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eiro |
aurelie_v, wb :) |
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eiro |
oh ? i'm desapointed |
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paul_p |
eiro: lol |
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* paul_p |
laptop has problems, so working with spare computer we have, fortunatly ! |
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chris |
:) |
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hdl_laptop |
chris: congratulation |
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hdl_laptop |
s |
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chris |
thank you, the librarians did all the hard work |
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paul_p |
chris: why are you congratulated ? (laptop down, so no twitter, no rss, ... maybe I should know ;-) ) |
| 08:18 |
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chris |
www.library.org.nz |
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paul_p |
chris : /me working on a presentation of Koha history (for a conference organised by the SAN-Ouest Provence). I'm sure you already have something ! |
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chris |
ahh yep |
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chris |
there are a couple of things useful for that |
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chris |
http://git.koha-community.org/[…]docs/history.txt; |
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chris |
http://journal.code4lib.org/articles/1638 <-- early history |
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chris |
http://blog.bigballofwax.co.nz/tag/unsung-heroes/ |
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chris |
that help? |
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cait |
oh, comments still not moderated? http://spedr.com/36yox |
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chris |
try http://newsbreaks.infotoday.co[…]nd-Isnt-67309.asp |
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chris |
i know there are some other comments waiting to be moderated too |
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chris |
they aren't very fast at moderating |
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paul_p |
thx chris (was already working with history.txt, and 1638 interesting !) |
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cait |
chris: thx |
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cait |
:) |
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chris |
http://metservice.com/national[…]derstorm-warnings |
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magnus |
batten down the hatches! |
| 10:31 |
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cait |
chris: is there a problem with pootle? |
| 10:35 |
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chris |
looks like it, it seems to run for a few days then explode |
| 10:36 |
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cait |
its running, although slow |
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cait |
but I cant see the projects or access the po files |
| 10:37 |
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cait |
from my account I see the quick links to opac and staff files, but Im told that I have no rights to access them |
| 10:37 |
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chris |
http://translate.koha.org/de/ |
| 10:37 |
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cait |
You don't have permission to access this page. |
| 10:37 |
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chris |
hmm weird |
| 10:37 |
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mason |
chris, stick munin on it... ;) |
| 10:38 |
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cait |
I logged out, still same message |
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chris |
when did you last look at it? |
| 10:38 |
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mason |
...its a grate way to troubleshoot a fritzy box |
| 10:38 |
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cait |
uh, last week |
| 10:39 |
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mason |
(erm, after a weeks worth of history :/ ) |
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chris |
naw wouldnt have told me anything in this case |
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chris |
this is purely an application error |
| 10:45 |
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mason |
ah, so it is... i thought it was thrashing.. |
| 10:46 |
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mason |
perhaps cait's translate account has been removed... |
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chris |
nope |
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mason |
whew, thats good news |
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chris |
its crashing whenever it tries to check permissions |
| 10:47 |
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chris |
yeah, cos that would mean someone had hacked my server at home |
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mason |
*nods* |
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cait1 |
t |
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chris |
hmm no idea what its doing |
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cait1 |
its late for you, no hurry. just wanted to let you know |
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t |
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chris |
can you edit anything now? |
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cait1 |
really slow internet connection today *sigh* |
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chris |
cait_lunch: cant figure it out, but the translations are all there at least, i will try again tomorrow |
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owen |
chris: I don't know how you can get by on so little sleep! |
| 12:18 |
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* owen |
is an in-bed-by-10 kinda guy |
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chris |
owen: theres a quiet room at work |
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chris |
with couches |
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chris |
:) |
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owen |
siestas++ |
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chris |
ok, bed time |
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chris |
night all |
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chris |
(i have 7.5 hours before kahu wakes :)) |
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gmcharlt |
good morning |
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owen |
Hi gmcharlt |
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hdl_laptop |
hi gmcharlt |
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gmcharlt |
hi owen hdl_laptop |
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greenmang0 |
@wunder mumbai |
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munin |
greenmang0: The current temperature in Mumbai, India is 32.0�C (5:40 PM IST on May 25, 2010). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 70%. Dew Point: 26.0�C. Pressure: 29.68 in 1005 hPa (Steady). |
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magnus |
@wunder bodo, norway |
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munin |
magnus: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 8.0�C (2:20 PM CEST on May 25, 2010). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 76%. Dew Point: 4.0�C. Windchill: 6.0�C. Pressure: 29.53 in 1000 hPa (Steady). |
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owen |
Average out mubai and bodo and you've got a pretty nice day ;) |
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greenmang0 |
owen: yeah :) |
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greenmang0 |
owen: in some parts of my states today's temperature is 48.7 |
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greenmang0 |
my state* |
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* owen |
would melt |
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collum |
@wunder 41011 |
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munin |
collum: The current temperature in Newport Aquarium, Newport, Kentucky is 23.4�C (9:00 AM EDT on May 25, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 61%. Dew Point: 16.0�C. Pressure: 30.13 in 1020.2 hPa (Steady). |
| 13:03 |
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jwagner |
Morning all. Got an indexing question for you. There are indexes like mc-ccode or mc-itype which allow you to search more than one code. Would it be possible to set up an mc-branch index and search more than one branch at a time? |
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jdavidb |
@wunder 20817 |
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jdavidb: The current temperature in Langley Fork Park, McLean, Virginia is 20.9�C (9:17 AM EDT on May 25, 2010). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 86%. Dew Point: 18.0�C. Pressure: 30.25 in 1024.3 hPa (Steady). |
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owen |
I notice with the new Bugzilla I'm prompted to download patch attachments rather than being able to view them in my browser. |
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owen |
Is that something that can be configured differently? |
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owen |
A mime-type setting or something? |
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jwagner |
@quote random |
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munin |
jwagner: Quote #38: "<owen> Holy Bugzilla activity explosion, Batman!" (added by ricardo at 10:00 AM, October 07, 2009) |
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gmcharlt |
owen: try now |
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owen |
Thanks gmcharlt |
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jdavidb |
@quote random |
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munin |
jdavidb: Quote #74: "<owen> chris: Not to mention the cute kid quote AI you've been developing. that takes a lot of cycles" (added by gmcharlt at 09:11 AM, May 18, 2010) |
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libtek |
Anyone know if it is possible to override blocks in koha? I don't want to disable them, but if we want to override them, maybe even through an elevated user, can it be done? |
| 15:19 |
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owen |
Depends on the block |
| 15:20 |
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owen |
...and I'm not sure which permissions are in 3.0.x and which are only in 3.2... |
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libtek |
How about, for example, you have an item that doesn't circ. Sometimes we will loan it. Is there a way to do this? |
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cait |
I think you can override taht |
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cait |
not sure if its a granular permission or every staff member can do |
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owen |
I can't override a "not for loan" item in 3.2 with superlibrarian privileges |
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libtek |
Neither can I. I was wondering if I was missing a special setting somewhere. |
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wizzyrea |
I know this is one of the ptfs features |
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libtek |
what is ptfs? |
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mle |
ptfs is a company |
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libtek |
ah |
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wizzyrea |
they just submitted a bunch of features/patches/fixes for inclusion in 3.4 |
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cait |
owen: strange |
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cait |
libtek: sorry |
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cait |
bye all! |
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hdl_laptop |
gmcharlt: just sent you a patch for XSLT |
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gmcharlt |
hdl_laptop: yep, looks like I beat you to the punch |
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hdl_laptop |
Yes. But mine does much more. |
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gmcharlt |
I'll look at the patch you sent me privately and see if there are bits I can incoporate |
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hdl_laptop |
Do you want me to rebase ? |
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hdl_laptop |
I sent you privately in order to see whether I should go on and write sysprefs and update database. |
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hdl_laptop |
Or just leave that up for 3.4 |
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gmcharlt |
I will handle it |
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gmcharlt |
considering that your patch includes bogus stuff like a use of LWP::Simple, I'll just take it apart and rebuild it manaully |
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gmcharlt |
I'll submit the results to the patches list |
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hdl_laptop |
gmcharlt: is LWP::Simple Bogus ? |
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gmcharlt |
considering that none of its methods are *used* in the places where your patch adds it |
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gmcharlt |
yes |
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gmcharlt |
also, 3920 is *already* fixed in HEAD |
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gmcharlt |
I've just opened enhancement bug 4813 for XSLTResultsDisplay to be fully implemnted in 3.4 |
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munin |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4813 enhancement, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, implement XSLTResultsDisplay |
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@wunder 93117 |
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brendan: The current temperature in Northwest Goleta, Goleta, California is 14.0�C (9:21 AM PDT on May 25, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 71%. Dew Point: 9.0�C. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016.1 hPa (Rising). |
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libtek |
Question...I am tinkering with exporting patron records from our current system to import into Koha. Is there any functionality that is broken either with reports or notices if I put the street number with the rest of the address? |
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brendan |
shouldn't be it's a text field |
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libtek |
Wasn't sure. I don't usually see the address separated from the street number. |
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owen |
libtek: That is entirely optional |
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owen |
You'd only want to use that if you were to always use street number + street type |
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jwagner |
It's more of a European setup -- US libraries don't usually do it that way. Depends on your data & where you are : -) |
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jwagner |
hey, owen, since you're here -- there's no way to limit jquery statements by branch is there? Say you have separate OPACs for different consortia branches? |
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jwagner |
I can't think of a way to apply a jquery that wouldn't affect all of them. |
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owen |
Not unless there was some evidence of the current branch in the page which you could check |
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jwagner |
That's a thought. Don't have a request for that right now, but I was thinking about customizations & that suddenly popped into my mind. |
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owen |
We really need a well-thought-out method for handling multiple opac configurations |
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jwagner |
Yes, _please_ I was doing some experimenting today with the current setup. I managed to make it search multiple branches and multiple ccodes (my current requirements), but it's REALLY clunky |
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libtek |
One more question - If a patron has a physical address and P.O. Box, which address should go where, and will Koha know to use the P.O. Box when creating notices? |
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jwagner |
I couldn't get it to use a remote server stylesheet, but I don't know if that would work once my patch for that is in place. |
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owen |
libtek: Around here we've been told to always put the PO box first or it won't get delivered to the right place |
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owen |
Koha only cares about address1 and address2, it doesn't care what you put in them |
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libtek |
So the alternate address is ignored by the system, as far as notices go. That's only for staff to reference, right? |
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jwagner |
libtek, yes, so far as I know. |
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wizzyrea_away |
nekls actually suppresses the street number field |
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wizzyrea_away |
using juery |
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wizzyrea_away |
*query even |
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gmcharlt |
koha-commit emails now working again |
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brendan |
gmcharlt++ |
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wizzyrea |
owen: about? |
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owen |
Yes |
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wizzyrea |
lol, mibbit tester again |
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munin |
Announcement from my owner (gmcharlt): kohagit |
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wizzyrea |
I'm curious about the syspref for the intranet navigation |
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wizzyrea |
it doesn't seem to style the links the same when you put a URL in there? |
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wizzyrea |
http://screencast.com/t/ZTc5MmM3OW |
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wizzyrea |
is there a philosophical reason for that |
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wizzyrea |
I do notice that it's not in a <li> tag |
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wizzyrea |
and I suppose, now that I think about it, you probably don't want to require entries there to be automatically enclosed in a <li> |
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wizzyrea |
um |
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wizzyrea |
never mind I think I answered my own question >.< |
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owen |
Happy to be of service! |
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wizzyrea |
lol |
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wizzyrea |
sorry for the distraction. |
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owen |
In my test install it seemed like I needed to adjust the width of #toplevelnav in order to keep the menu from wrapping. |
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wizzyrea |
I just added the <li> around it and now it looks right |
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wizzyrea |
sorry, that was dumb. 30 seconds worth of firebug and I knew why it was doing that. |
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wizzyrea |
how many items do you have up there? |
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@kohagit |
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gmcharlt: fix a common "developement" typo <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]6f417bdfe97f085bc> bug 4377: ensure HOLD_PRINT letter added during installation and upgrade (DBrev 135) <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]02f10cd2063bdb32f> bug 4311: respect OPACXSLTResultsDisplay <http://git.koha- (14 more messages) |
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munin |
New news from kohagit: fix another link to koha-community.org |
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@kohagit |
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hdl_laptop: fix another link to koha-community.org <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]9795b040ce048f470> / fix a common "developement" typo <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]6f417bdfe97f085bc> / bug 4377: ensure HOLD_PRINT letter added during installation and upgrade (DBrev 135) <http://git.koha- (15 more messages) |
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New commit from kohagit: Bug 4199: Adds ability to print routing slip. Patch 2. <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]ff70144d2a87e762e> / Bug 4199: Adds ability to print routing slip from serials-collection. <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]2619b11ac1d97ce37> / Bug 4805: Fixes multiple subscriptionid's being passed to serials-collection. <http |
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gmcharlt: community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=b1ed3af63350d0d754fb309644b3d57be707041b> / bug 4018: remove duplicate unAPI link when XSLT bib details display on <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]2cefaba2a9bc03ebd> / Install the admin scripts. <http://git.koha- (14 more messages) |
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gmcharlt: community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=a9f918a8aef2dd985206deb4fc333a885ada3ec5> / Make koha-create be able to handle manual database creation. <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]fd78bc55a71bea858> / Add support for a remote mysql server. <http://git.koha- (13 more messages) |
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gmcharlt: community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=df6767467b90bb5706a8ce975f9c11f04e9f23cb> / Use /etc/mysql/koha-common.cnf instead of the Debian one. <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]e27fce7ed5be188d2> / Add koha-foreach, a script to run a command for each Koha instance. <http://git.koha- (12 more messages) |
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gmcharlt: community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=cfd5fae5a336688194acee558d53b2ed83245e30> / Centralize creation of Koha instance dirs. <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]cdcfa2b0a161fcb50> / Add scripts to start, stop, restart Zebra, and rebuild its indexes. <http://git.koha- (11 more messages) |
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gmcharlt: community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=2e626be90cc84d703a9e47f0402252b91b69b1d3> / Add koha-upgrade-schema, a script to upgrade the database schema. <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]b0c7434e83ca661c7> / Add koha-dump-defaults, a script to dump a defaults file. <http://git.koha- (10 more messages) |
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@More |
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gmcharlt: community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=b69b670d63ff72d7aa818374f892ba887d82212f> / Add koha-reset-passwd, a script for resetting a user's password. <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]8eced7e6865e58734> / Add koha-enable, a script to re-enable a Koha instance. <http://git.koha- (9 more messages) |
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gmcharlt: community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=321300b4f7683f53a60d0326e27a952142510151> / Add koha-disable, a script to disable a Koha instance. <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]2023413a94df63ceb> / Add koha-restore, a script to restore a Koha instance from a dump. <http://git.koha- (8 more messages) |
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@More |
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gmcharlt: community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=01bd539cab1255df63e5369838247d0df5d9b2ab> / Add koha-list, a script to list all Koha instances. <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]03f2923a715bf20e2> / Add koha-dump, a script to dump a Koha site. <http://git.koha- (7 more messages) |
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gmcharlt: community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=41b1bfcab7324ebca2d47a09335b0c09f5fab173> / Add koha-remove, a script to remove a Koha instance. <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]8fe7c6422f406602d> / Add koha-create, a script to create a new Koha instance. <http://git.koha- (6 more messages) |
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@More |
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gmcharlt: community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=6340d2246859b3784bb922c8af7b0bbc6ca0db92> / Split off koha-common. <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]66b450b514894a119> / Set version number in debian/changelog to indicate upcoming 3.2. <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]f475f6cd4ae1acd6a> / (4 more messages) |
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@More |
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gmcharlt: Convert debian/copyright file to the DEP5 format. <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]29e3f3d3fe6c0e4d0> / Switch to native source format. <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]4478bfab74896339a> / Bugfix: Install old yui stylesheets, since Koha needs them. <http://git.koha- (3 more messages) |
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gmcharlt: community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=704754db0cc328808cae74bc98a55f959f78d875> / Bugfix: Create the jquery.js symlink for opac to the right target. <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]8a3a35ea21825400a> / Bugfix: Remove Debian packaging files remaining from old packaging effort. <http://git.koha- (2 more messages) |
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gmcharlt: community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=2bce655e2d3307aebcaa9bb0553b2907cfb0fcaf> / Bugfix: Remove pointless executable bits from sql files. <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]2125ff65377741ae5> / removed unconditional warn introduced in previous patch <http://git.koha- (1 more message) |
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gmcharlt: community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=a2ad21ac9e006514764fc828630a893d3c29f689> |
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gmcharlt |
whew |
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gmcharlt |
owen: I'm curious to hear your thoughts on bug 4523 |
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munin |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4523 enhancement, P5, ---, chris, NEW, aqbudgets.pl - possibility to show / hide the filters menu |
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owen |
I agree with your comment that it would seem odd to have a control here but nowhere else |
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owen |
I'm not sure why this particular instance needs to be hidden, but I don't manage budgets so I don't know how this page can work in the real world |
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gmcharlt |
saving horizontal space? dunno |
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gmcharlt |
I'm thinking that if we go in for something like this, besides doing it consistently, we'd need better styling to make it clear what the link was doing |
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owen |
I've never found what I felt like was a good implementation of this kind of thing |
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owen |
I think it's always awkward |
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gmcharlt |
maybe a second layer? click a link for more/advanced options, it shows up? |
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gmcharlt |
... but if you do that, you'd want to make sure that if you set a filter, that you could continue to see what the filter values in effect are |
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* wizzyrea |
is reminded about the usability study she'd like to do/have done |
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wizzyrea |
dumb question: what area of collegiate study does usability fall under? |
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wizzyrea |
Computer Science? |
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owen |
navel-gazing |
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wizzyrea |
snarktastic! |
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gmcharlt |
wizzyrea: quite a few areas, actually |
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wizzyrea |
so if I were looking for a usability class that could potentially do a study as a project |
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gmcharlt |
arts and design, computer science, psychology, etc. |
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* wizzyrea |
gazes lovingly at her navel |
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gmcharlt |
as far as course titles to look for |
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gmcharlt |
usability, of course, but also interaction design |
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wizzyrea |
how is it that you know absolutely everything, gmcharlt? |
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gmcharlt |
human-computer interfaces |
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jwagner |
a lot of project management areas deal with usability and process. Especially things like Six Sigma |
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wizzyrea |
I"m going to start calling you "gmcharltopedia" |
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wizzyrea |
aha |
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wizzyrea |
yes, thanks |
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gmcharlt |
my brain is my own! it's not a wiki! |
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gmcharlt |
;) |
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wizzyrea |
lol... you'll notice I didn't call you wikigmcharltopedia |
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jwagner |
You Are Not A Number! You Are A Free Wiki! |
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gmcharlt |
riffing on what jwagner says, it can verge into pure management theory |
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gmcharlt |
e.g., time-and-motion studies |
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wizzyrea |
aha, so several areas to look |
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* wizzyrea |
goes to look at the local university |
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* owen |
must leave, but will try that patch tomorrow and see if it inspires him |
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wizzyrea |
these seem promising http://screencast.com/t/MWE3YjM5Zj |
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wizzyrea |
will email these people and see what they say |
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wizzyrea |
probably not next semester, but maybe next year |
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gmcharlt |
yep, looks like you're on the right track |
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gmcharlt |
particularly if the two intructors listed also have grad stduents |
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wizzyrea |
2nd looks like grad level class to begin with |
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gmcharlt |
right, which is good |
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gmcharlt |
but if you get a grad student involved in doing usability work for Koha as a thesis project |
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gmcharlt |
*much* more free labor |
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gmcharlt |
;) |
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wizzyrea |
hehe |
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wizzyrea |
^^ is what I'm looking for |
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hi |
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morning |
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Good afternoon |
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I'm getting this error when I try to visit my site initially: |
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JimmytheGeek |
Software error: |
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JimmytheGeek |
Can't locate YAML.pm in @INC (@INC contains: /usr/share/koha/lib /etc/perl /usr/local/lib/perl/5.10.0 /usr/local/share/perl/5.10.0 /usr/lib/perl5 /usr/share/perl5 /usr/lib/perl/5.10 /usr/share/perl/5.10 /usr/local/lib/site_perl .) at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/SQLHelper.pm line 27. |
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JimmytheGeek |
BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/SQLHelper.pm line 27. |
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Where can I find YAML.pm, or did something not install properly? |
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chris |
looks like yeah you didnt install YAML |
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wizzyrea |
have you installed YAML? |
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wizzyrea |
doh |
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chris |
what os are you running? |
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JimmytheGeek |
Debian Lenny |
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I must have missed something in the Install.x file |
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JimmytheGeek |
is this a sudo apt-get install fix, or do I need to go back a few steps |
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wizzyrea |
sudo apt-get install libyaml-perl or somesuch |
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JimmytheGeek |
ok |
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wizzyrea |
at this point most of your problems are going to be perl modules you've missed. |
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JimmytheGeek |
Cool. Thanks, wizzyrea |
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wizzyrea |
larsw: you've been super busy, awesome |
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wizzyrea |
larsw++ |
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Now it's can't locate HTML/Template/Pro.pm. Another apt-get? |
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wizzyrea |
probably a cpan |
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wizzyrea |
sudo cpan -i HTML::Template::Pro (I think) |
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wizzyrea |
(somebody please correct me if I'm wrong) |
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larsw |
JimmytheGeek, if you haven't installed it yet, installing the apt-file package is super-useful for that; you can then do this: apt-file search HTML/Template/Pro.pm and it will tell you which package, if any, contains the file |
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wizzyrea |
^^ good tip |
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wizzyrea |
larsw++ |
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larsw |
wizzyrea, thanks for you incs, I try to be useful |
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wizzyrea |
you are definitely useful |
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wizzyrea |
:D |
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* wizzyrea |
learns something useful from larsw almost every day |
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JimmytheGeek |
Great tip, larsw. I'll use it for sure. @wizzyrea - your command was correct. I'm going to have to do these step by step it looks like. |
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JimmytheGeek |
I am Chuggington |
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gmcharlt |
larsw: regarding C4/Installer/PerlDependencies.pm, would you think it a good or bad idea to record the Debian packages that supply the given Perl modules there |
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larsw |
gmcharlt, ideally the mapping from Perl or CPAN module to Debian package would be automated, I think; not sure if it is entirely feasible, so adding debian packages manually to the list would be ok with me |
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wizzyrea |
oh, chrome has firebug-like functionality built in |
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* wizzyrea |
didn't know that |
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chris |
it does now |
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wizzyrea |
that's neat |
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larsw |
gmcharlt, we'd need to optionally specify the Debian package version as well, since it is not always the same as the cpan module version, for example |
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gmcharlt |
larsw: yeah, you can guess the Debian package name 90% of the time, but not always |
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gmcharlt |
as far as the hash is concerned, I'm thinking something like debian => package-name as the default |
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gmcharlt |
and debian-lenny => foo, debian-squeeze => baz |
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gmcharlt |
if necessary to specify a different package name for a particular debian release |
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gmcharlt |
and a boolean debian_use_testing if it's known that stable doesn't have the minimum version required |
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JimmytheGeek |
any idea where the XML.pm module is in the CPAN |
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JimmytheGeek |
specifically the one that belongs in MARC/File/ ? |
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gmcharlt |
JimmytheGeek: the module is MARC::File::XML |
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gmcharlt |
currently http://search.cpan.org/~gmchar[…]/MARC/File/XML.pm |
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larsw |
gmcharlt, I'm worried that adding more abstraction on top of the Debian packaging is going to a) make things difficult to change for a non-Koha person (when Koha gets uploaded to Debian) and b) will blow up and end up requiring a lot of complexity to handle all different scenarios |
| 22:02 |
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larsw |
gmcharlt, would it be acceptable to not generate the dependency list in debian/control automatically, but have the debian package build check it against PerlDependencies.pm? checking if a Debian package contains a perl module should be possible |
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JimmytheGeek |
thanks gmcharli |
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JimmytheGeek |
sorry, gmcharlt |
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gmcharlt |
larsw: here's an example of what I have in mind |
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gmcharlt |
http://koha.pastebin.com/kCK2CXBD |
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gmcharlt |
and we could add convenience routines to extract the list of Debian packages for the purpose of feeding into debian/control |
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gmcharlt |
my main goal is to have a single place that encodes all (Perl) dependency information |
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gmcharlt |
obviously things like mysql, etc., would have to be accounted for by the packagers separately |
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gmcharlt |
but there are *far* fewer such dependencies than there are perl module deps |
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JimmytheGeek |
This would appear, to me anyway, to be an 'oh SHIT!' moment: |
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JimmytheGeek |
Access denied for user 'kohaadmin'@'localhost' (using password: YES) at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Context.pm line 697. |
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larsw |
I'm for keeping things in one place, but against making the packaging hard for a generic Debian developer to understand |
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larsw |
gmcharlt, but let me think about this and get back to you? |
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gmcharlt |
larsw: sure thing |
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