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| 01:09 |
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| 01:41 |
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Ycros |
Hi, are there any good tools for bulk-editing MARC data? (either from the raw MARC XML format or the MARC format itself) |
| 01:41 |
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chris |
there are a couple of freeware tools |
| 01:42 |
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chris |
which would be so much cooler if they were actually free software |
| 01:42 |
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chris |
but there is MarcEdit |
| 01:42 |
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chris |
and the Marc utils from ptfs |
| 01:42 |
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chris |
both can do bulk, they both are developed for windows tho, and only slightly work on linux |
| 01:43 |
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chris |
but if you have access to a windows machine |
| 01:43 |
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chris |
http://people.oregonstate.edu/[…]it/html/index.php |
| 01:43 |
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chris |
would probably be my pick |
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Ycros |
chris: yeah, free software preferable. Hmm, okay will look into those, thanks |
| 01:47 |
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chris |
if you do find a free software one, id love to know about it .. id love if either of the tools (marcedit or http://www.liblime.com/news/pt[…]tadata-converter) |
| 01:47 |
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chris |
would release under a free software license |
| 01:48 |
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chris |
hi irmalibraries |
| 01:51 |
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eythian |
chris: any chance of finding friendly sponsors to get together to get one written? How hard could it be? ;) |
| 01:51 |
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Ycros |
chris: I'm actually working with irmalibraries :) |
| 01:51 |
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chris |
eythian: the thing is, the marc utilites is perl, using a lot of the same modules we use |
| 01:52 |
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chris |
its really frustrating |
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larsw |
note to self: this is not vi, control-w does not delete a word here *sigh* |
| 01:52 |
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chris |
heh |
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chris |
Ycros: ahh cool ;) |
| 01:52 |
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chilts |
heh |
| 01:53 |
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larsw |
chris, so looks to me like most of the code is already out there, and is free, so only the actual app code to do bulk editing would be needed, to write a truly free app... just needs to find someone to sponsor the development, or willing to do it themselves |
| 01:53 |
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chris |
yeah |
| 01:53 |
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Ycros |
chris: just trying to work out an easy way of bulk editing/cleaning up data - either new stuff that's being imported or already inside koha |
| 01:53 |
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chris |
i usually end up scripting |
| 01:53 |
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larsw |
I know nothing about anything related to libraries, so couldn't even start to estimate, but I would assume it would be less than two weeks of full time work |
| 01:54 |
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chris |
larsw: you are most likely right |
| 01:55 |
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chris_n |
larsw: I saw a vi irc client script once |
| 01:55 |
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irmalibraries |
hi all .. distracted for a minute ... |
| 01:55 |
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chris_n |
iirc it did not work so swell |
| 01:56 |
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Ycros |
chris: well scripting is the previous solution that one of the other developers irma was working with was using. As in, spitting things out in a csv/tsv format, then irma would edit that inside a spreadsheet app |
| 01:56 |
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chris |
eek |
| 01:57 |
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chris_n |
double-eek |
| 01:57 |
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chris |
i was more meaning using MARC::Batch and MARC::Record etc |
| 01:57 |
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Ycros |
yes, I gathered :) |
| 01:57 |
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chris |
i can send you a script |
| 01:58 |
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chris |
that does a bulk update of isbns |
| 01:58 |
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chris |
as an example |
| 01:58 |
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* chris_n |
was thining of loading lots of marc records into a spreadsheet and trying to stay sane |
| 01:58 |
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chris |
and one that groups together marc records |
| 01:58 |
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chris |
using isbn |
| 01:58 |
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chris |
(ie removes duplicates) |
| 02:01 |
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chris |
if you pm an email address ill send it along it might help out |
| 02:01 |
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Ycros |
chris: is it possible to get a tabular view in MarcEdit somehow? |
| 02:01 |
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chris |
havent used it in years |
| 02:01 |
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Ycros |
ah :) |
| 02:01 |
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chris |
so im not the best person to ask |
| 02:03 |
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chris |
larsw: yep, all the work would be UI |
| 02:03 |
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Ycros |
indeed |
| 02:05 |
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chilts |
every time I've tried GTK2 in Perl, I got bogged down in creating the UI :( |
| 02:05 |
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chilts |
one day though :) |
| 02:08 |
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eythian |
chilts: libopengl-perl |
| 02:09 |
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chilts |
not sure they're the same thing (or were you just pointing it out?) |
| 02:10 |
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eythian |
they're not the same thing, just hinting that an opengl editor would be neat :) |
| 02:10 |
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chris |
patches accepted eythian :) |
| 02:11 |
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chilts |
:) |
| 02:13 |
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Ycros |
chilts: Design the UI using glade, and then just load up the glade file |
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chilts |
Ycros: past experience points to never using a UI editor ... but I guess I have to re-evaluate that one (it's been a long time since I started believing that) |
| 02:15 |
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Ycros |
nooo, GUI design sohuld be done in a GUI :) |
| 02:15 |
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Ycros |
it's much easier, it's very tedious to do everything by hand |
| 02:16 |
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larsw |
glade is totally the way to go |
| 02:16 |
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larsw |
(not that I have experience with perl+gtk, but I have some with python+gtk) |
| 02:18 |
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Ycros |
yeah, I'm also a Python guy :) |
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chilts |
yeah, you guys are probably right :) |
| 02:22 |
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* chilts |
still has nightmares from a previous project |
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Amit_G |
hi chris |
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Amit_G |
good morning #koha |
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kf |
good morning #koha |
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Amit_G |
heya kf |
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kf |
hi Amit_G |
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hdl_laptop |
hi |
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kf |
hi hdl_laptop |
| 05:13 |
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hdl_laptop |
see you |
| 05:19 |
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CGI649 |
Hi |
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Amit_G |
Hi all, how to revert last commit via git |
| 06:17 |
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kf |
which koha version added multi marc support? |
| 06:18 |
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kf |
I m not sure, but I think I have a mistake here in my presentation hm |
| 06:19 |
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kf |
hm, ok, koha history.txt says 98 September 25 2002 Koha 1.3.0 released - Mulitple MARC flavours supported |
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Joandgeorge |
Irma: are you about? |
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paul_p |
hello world |
| 06:59 |
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kf |
good morning paul_p |
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Amit_G |
heya paul_p |
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chris |
kf: 1.3.0 was the first one that supported unimarc and marc21 .. but the 3 means its was a development release |
| 07:28 |
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chris |
so the first producton release was 2.0.0 |
| 07:49 |
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kf |
chris: so 2.0.0 is correct? |
| 07:49 |
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chris |
for stable yes |
| 07:49 |
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chris |
1.3.0 was the first development release |
| 07:49 |
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chris |
for it |
| 07:54 |
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kf |
now im confused :) |
| 07:56 |
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chris |
ok, so the second number in our numbers is how you tell if it is a stable or development release |
| 07:56 |
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chris |
even numbers = stable |
| 07:56 |
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chris |
eg 3.0.x 3.2.x, 3.4.x etc |
| 07:56 |
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chris |
orignally 2.0.0 was going to be 1.4.0 |
| 07:57 |
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kf |
ok |
| 07:57 |
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chris |
but it was so major, we decided to call it 2.0.0 instead |
| 07:57 |
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kf |
I changed it to 2.0 on my slide |
| 07:57 |
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chris |
so leading up to 2.0.0 we did some 1.3.x releases |
| 07:57 |
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chris |
but they were for testing |
| 07:57 |
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chris |
not to use in a real library |
| 07:58 |
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kf |
ah :) thx chris! |
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| 09:29 |
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chris |
anyone have a minute to test something for me? |
| 09:38 |
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magnus |
chris: ask, don't ask to ask ;-) |
| 09:40 |
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chris |
heh |
| 09:40 |
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kf |
magnus++ ;) |
| 09:40 |
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chris |
http://opac.koha.workbuffer.or[…]earch.pl?idx=&q=a |
| 09:40 |
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chris |
vs |
| 09:40 |
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chris |
http://opac.koha.workbuffer.or[…]earch.pl?idx=&q=a |
| 09:41 |
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magnus |
same results, different facets? |
| 09:42 |
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chris |
the facets change if you reload |
| 09:42 |
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chris |
:82 is not using apache |
| 09:42 |
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chris |
its nginx and fastcgi |
| 09:42 |
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chris |
port 80 is apache |
| 09:47 |
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magnus |
:82 seemed slightly faster, but now i get "502 Bad Gateway" |
| 09:48 |
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chris |
yup, ive busted it :) |
| 09:48 |
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chris |
cool slightly faster was what i was going for |
| 09:49 |
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magnus |
just my impression, 502 popped up just as i was trying to measure it with firebug |
| 09:49 |
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chris |
slightly faster and 1/1000th the resources |
| 09:49 |
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magnus |
heh, that's a nice number! |
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chris |
502 gone away? |
| 10:00 |
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magnus |
nope |
| 10:06 |
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chris |
right, plan b |
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* magnus |
sneaks out to get a breath of fresh air |
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kf |
sorry, was at lunch |
| 10:48 |
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chris |
right |
| 10:48 |
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chris |
http://opac.koha.workbuffer.or[…]earch.pl?idx=&q=a |
| 10:48 |
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chris |
hopefully no more 502's |
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magnus |
sorry chris, i'm still getting 502'd |
| 11:08 |
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chris |
dang it |
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chris |
ah well it mostly works, i just have to learn more about threading and sockets and fastcgi |
| 11:08 |
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chris |
Amit_G: i see you just registered for kohacon .. are you coming? |
| 11:08 |
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* chris |
hopes so |
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Amit_G |
chris: i m planning |
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Amit_G |
heya nicomo |
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nicomo |
hi Amit_G |
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kf |
have you seen that? http://koha-community.org/arabic-koha/ |
| 12:31 |
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kf |
my presentation has too many slides for another screenshot :( I need more time! |
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chris_n |
g'morning |
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kf |
good morning chris_n |
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* chris_n |
thinks its awful quiet in here today |
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chris_n |
@wunder 28334 |
| 14:54 |
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munin |
chris_n: The current temperature in Dunn, North Carolina is 13.9�C (10:49 AM EDT on April 14, 2010). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 35%. Dew Point: -1.0�C. Pressure: 30.12 in 1019.9 hPa (Steady). |
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wizzyrea |
@quote random |
| 14:59 |
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munin |
wizzyrea: Quote #45: "<CGI988> sekjal - you are a genious!!!!! asking me about the browser!!!! yes it's the #$%$#%$#ing IE was messing my cataloguing, oh I hate miscrosoft, the evil!" (added by gmcharlt at 02:00 PM, November 05, 2009) |
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wizzyrea |
hehe |
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chris_n |
it's M$ attempt to "govern" the rest of the software world through force that is so nasty |
| 15:07 |
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chris_n |
if they want their unique implementations and closed source, they can have it; just as long as they keep it to themselves :) |
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len |
hello everyone, aparently migrating to zebra has been more complicated than expected, especially for the authorities. Now when I search an authority I always see 0 biblios like the authority is not used. In the zebra log there is a strange error: Search biblios ERROR 114 1 1+0 RPN @attrset Bib-1 @attr "1=Koha-Auth-Number" 50. Any ideeas? |
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Nouman |
hi |
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len |
aparently for each authority found, another query @attrset Bib-1 @attr "1=Koha-Auth-Number" id_authority is done |
| 17:02 |
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len |
with returns an error 114 |
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wizzyrea |
len: http://koha-community.org/docu[…]faq/searching/#18 all of these things are ok? |
| 17:08 |
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len |
yes |
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len |
I've commented the entry in crontab and executed by hand the rebuild to check for errors |
| 17:09 |
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len |
there is none, except the warn related to Heading-Main and Any |
| 17:09 |
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len |
and yes, as koha user, checked also permissions on the zebradb dirs |
| 17:13 |
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len |
the problem seems similar to the one described at the end of this bug: http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…]w_bug.cgi?id=1906 |
| 17:13 |
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munin |
Bug 1906: normal, P3, ---, jmf liblime.com, RESOLVED WORKSFORME, Zebra Authority search fails with a new (from git) Koha installation |
| 17:14 |
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len |
but there is no solution, and the bug is old and resolved |
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len |
can the problem be in zebra version? |
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len |
I have idzebra-2.0.34 |
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chris_n |
nice: http://badir.maktabat-online.net/ |
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owen |
Wow that's kinda making my brain hurt |
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wizzyrea |
oh man, that's great... but yea, wow brain hurt |
| 18:40 |
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* wizzyrea |
is in backwards world |
| 18:41 |
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wizzyrea |
backwards for me anyway |
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wizzyrea |
normal for some |
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chris_n |
yeah... they did a spectacular job imho |
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wizzyrea |
it looks really great, and it all works which is even better :D |
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fredericd |
hi |
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* chris_n |
notices a watch-dog script he wrote has begun to spam his inbox :-P |
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chris_n |
hi fredericd |
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chris |
morning |
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magnus |
morning chris |
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chris_n |
g'morning chris |
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chris_n |
between js, perl, catalyst, dbic, and php I'm about to go stark, raving mad |
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len |
even after installing last version of zebra same error |
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len |
lost ... |
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chris_n |
len: I'm not familiar with authorities as we don't use them presently, but you might want to post to the list |
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len |
is there a way not to use them? |
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len |
most of the biblios are manualy entered (not using z3950) |
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len |
and the process of entering an authority before each biblio is a bit long |
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chris |
there certainly is len |
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chris |
what you need to do is go to the marc frameworks |
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chris |
(under administration) |
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len |
ok |
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chris |
http://koha-community.org/docu[…]?ch=x3614#AEN3617 |
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chris |
scroll down to 1.4.1.3 |
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wizzyrea |
oki |
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chris |
so what you do is find the subfiled you want to turn the authorities off on |
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chris |
say 100a |
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chris |
and switch the thesaurus to blank (instead of what its set to now) |
| 19:23 |
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len |
yes, the problem is that now there will be no more check for typos |
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len |
I tried using BibliosAddAuthority to true and the effect was that a lot of duplicated authors are found |
| 19:26 |
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len |
but thank you anyway, it's always good to know ;) |
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chris |
:) |
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chris |
i think the way to use them best |
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chris |
is to load all the authorities at the start |
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chris |
from some big authorities file |
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len |
I agree with you, but this is not the case here :( |
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chris_n |
wb brendan |
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brendan |
:) |
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magnus |
g'night #koha |
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cait |
good night #koha |
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cait |
:) |
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owen |
good night #koha |
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owen |
:) |
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len |
good night |
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chris |
hmm my server at home is having issues |
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larsw |
does Koha keep a changelog of any sort in the source tree? |
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chris |
it used to back in the days of cvs |
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chris |
but not anymore i dont think |
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larsw |
yeah, I can't find one |
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larsw |
release notes (NEWS files) might be a good idea |
