Time  Nick          Message
23:59 larsw         release notes (NEWS files) might be a good idea
23:59 larsw         yeah, I can't find one
23:58 chris         but not anymore i dont think
23:57 chris         it used to back in the days of cvs
22:36 larsw         does Koha keep a changelog of any sort in the source tree?
22:17 chris         hmm my server at home is having issues
20:43 len           good night
20:12 owen          :)
20:11 owen          good night #koha
20:02 cait          :)
20:02 cait          good night #koha
19:45 magnus        g'night #koha
19:41 brendan       :)
19:41 chris_n       wb brendan
19:30 len           I agree with you, but this is not the case here :(
19:28 chris         from some big authorities file
19:28 chris         is to load all the authorities at the start
19:28 chris         i think the way to use them best
19:27 chris         :)
19:26 len           but thank you anyway, it's always good to know ;)
19:23 len           I tried using BibliosAddAuthority to true and the effect was that a lot of duplicated authors are found
19:23 len           yes, the problem is that now there will be no more check for typos
19:20 chris         and switch the thesaurus to blank (instead of what its set to now)
19:20 chris         say 100a
19:19 chris         so what you do is find the subfiled you want to turn the authorities off on
19:19 wizzyrea      oki
19:19 chris         scroll down to 1.4.1.3
19:19 chris         http://koha-community.org/documentation/3-2-manual/?ch=x3614#AEN3617
19:18 len           ok
19:18 chris         (under administration)
19:17 chris         what you need to do is go to the marc frameworks
19:17 chris         there certainly is len
19:17 len           and the process of entering an authority before each biblio is a bit long
19:17 len           most of the biblios are manualy entered (not using z3950)
19:16 len           is there a way not to use them?
19:15 chris_n       len: I'm not familiar with authorities as we don't use them presently, but you might want to post to the list
19:13 len           lost ...
19:13 len           even after installing last version of zebra same error
19:08 chris_n       between js, perl, catalyst, dbic, and php I'm about to go stark, raving mad
19:04 chris_n       g'morning chris
19:00 magnus        morning chris
18:56 chris         morning
18:49 chris_n       hi fredericd
18:49 * chris_n     notices a watch-dog script he wrote has begun to spam his inbox :-P
18:48 fredericd     hi
18:46 wizzyrea      it looks really great, and it all works which is even better :D
18:43 chris_n       yeah... they did a spectacular job imho
18:41 wizzyrea      normal for some
18:41 wizzyrea      backwards for me anyway
18:40 * wizzyrea    is in backwards world
18:39 wizzyrea      oh man, that's great... but yea, wow brain hurt
18:28 owen          Wow that's kinda making my brain hurt
18:19 chris_n       nice: http://badir.maktabat-online.net/
17:36 len           I have idzebra-2.0.34
17:35 len           can the problem be in zebra version?
17:14 len           but there is no solution, and the bug is old and resolved
17:13 munin         04Bug 1906: normal, P3, ---, jmf@liblime.com, RESOLVED WORKSFORME, Zebra Authority search fails with a new (from git) Koha installation
17:13 len           the problem seems similar to the one described at the end of this bug: http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=1906
17:09 len           and yes, as koha user, checked also permissions on the zebradb dirs
17:09 len           there is none, except the warn related to Heading-Main and Any
17:08 len           I've commented the entry in crontab and executed by hand the rebuild to check for errors
17:08 len           yes
17:06 wizzyrea      len: http://koha-community.org/documentation/faq/searching/#18 all of these things are ok?
17:02 len           with returns an error 114
17:01 len           aparently for each authority found, another query @attrset Bib-1 @attr "1=Koha-Auth-Number" id_authority is done
16:45 Nouman        hi
16:38 len           hello everyone, aparently migrating to zebra has been more complicated than expected, especially for the authorities. Now when I search an authority I always see 0 biblios like the authority is not used. In the zebra log there is a strange error: Search biblios ERROR 114 1 1+0 RPN @attrset Bib-1 @attr "1=Koha-Auth-Number" 50. Any ideeas?
15:07 chris_n       if they want their unique implementations and closed source, they can have it; just as long as they keep it to themselves :)
15:06 chris_n       it's M$ attempt to "govern" the rest of the software world through force that is so nasty
14:59 wizzyrea      hehe
14:59 munin         wizzyrea: Quote #45: "<CGI988> sekjal - you are a genious!!!!! asking me about the browser!!!! yes it's the #$%$#%$#ing IE was messing my cataloguing, oh I hate miscrosoft, the evil!" (added by gmcharlt at 02:00 PM, November 05, 2009)
14:59 wizzyrea      @quote random
14:54 munin         chris_n: The current temperature in Dunn, North Carolina is 13.9�C (10:49 AM EDT on April 14, 2010). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 35%. Dew Point: -1.0�C. Pressure: 30.12 in 1019.9 hPa (Steady).
14:54 chris_n       @wunder 28334
14:54 * chris_n     thinks its awful quiet in here today
13:14 kf            good morning chris_n
13:13 chris_n       g'morning
12:31 kf            my presentation has too many slides for another screenshot :( I need more time!
12:31 kf            have you seen that? http://koha-community.org/arabic-koha/
11:15 nicomo        hi Amit_G
11:15 Amit_G        heya nicomo
11:08 Amit_G        chris: i m planning
11:08 * chris       hopes so
11:08 chris         Amit_G: i see you just registered for kohacon .. are you coming?
11:08 chris         ah well it mostly works, i just have to learn more about threading and sockets and fastcgi
11:08 chris         dang it
10:54 magnus        sorry chris, i'm still getting 502'd
10:48 chris         hopefully no more 502's
10:48 chris         http://opac.koha.workbuffer.org:82/cgi-bin/koha/opac-search.pl?idx=&q=a
10:48 chris         right
10:43 kf            sorry, was at lunch
10:22 * magnus      sneaks out to get a breath of fresh air
10:06 chris         right, plan b
10:00 magnus        nope
09:58 chris         502 gone away?
09:49 magnus        heh, that's a nice number!
09:49 chris         slightly faster and 1/1000th the resources
09:49 magnus        just my impression, 502 popped up just as i was trying to measure it with firebug
09:48 chris         cool slightly faster was what i was going for
09:48 chris         yup, ive busted it :)
09:47 magnus        :82 seemed slightly faster, but now i get "502 Bad Gateway"
09:42 chris         port 80 is apache
09:42 chris         its nginx and fastcgi
09:42 chris         :82 is not using apache
09:42 chris         the facets change if you reload
09:41 magnus        same results, different facets?
09:40 chris         http://opac.koha.workbuffer.org/cgi-bin/koha/opac-search.pl?idx=&q=a
09:40 chris         vs
09:40 chris         http://opac.koha.workbuffer.org:82/cgi-bin/koha/opac-search.pl?idx=&q=a
09:40 kf            magnus++ ;)
09:40 chris         heh
09:38 magnus        chris: ask, don't ask to ask ;-)
09:29 chris         anyone have a minute to test something for me?
07:58 kf            ah :) thx chris!
07:57 chris         not to use in a real library
07:57 chris         but they were for testing
07:57 chris         so leading up to 2.0.0 we did some 1.3.x releases
07:57 kf            I changed it to 2.0 on my slide
07:57 chris         but it was so major, we decided to call it 2.0.0 instead
07:57 kf            ok
07:56 chris         orignally 2.0.0 was going to be 1.4.0
07:56 chris         eg 3.0.x 3.2.x, 3.4.x etc
07:56 chris         even numbers = stable
07:56 chris         ok, so the second number in our numbers is how you tell if it is a stable or development release
07:54 kf            now im confused :)
07:49 chris         for it
07:49 chris         1.3.0 was the first development release
07:49 chris         for stable yes
07:49 kf            chris: so 2.0.0 is correct?
07:28 chris         so the first producton release was 2.0.0
07:27 chris         kf: 1.3.0 was the first one that supported unimarc and marc21 .. but the 3 means its was a development release
07:05 Amit_G        heya paul_p
06:59 kf            good morning paul_p
06:58 paul_p        hello world
06:46 Joandgeorge   Irma: are you about?
06:19 kf            hm, ok, koha history.txt says  98 September 25 2002        Koha 1.3.0 released - Mulitple MARC flavours supported
06:18 kf            I m not sure, but I think I have a mistake here in my presentation hm
06:17 kf            which koha version added multi marc support?
05:36 Amit_G        Hi all, how to revert last commit via git
05:20 CGI649        Hi
05:13 hdl_laptop    see you
05:13 kf            hi hdl_laptop
05:03 hdl_laptop    hi
05:03 kf            hi Amit_G
05:02 Amit_G        heya kf
04:57 kf            good morning #koha
03:40 Amit_G        good morning #koha
03:40 Amit_G        hi chris
02:22 * chilts      still has nightmares from a previous project
02:21 chilts        yeah, you guys are probably right :)
02:18 Ycros         yeah, I'm also a Python guy :)
02:16 larsw         (not that I have experience with perl+gtk, but I have some with python+gtk)
02:16 larsw         glade is totally the way to go
02:15 Ycros         it's much easier, it's very tedious to do everything by hand
02:15 Ycros         nooo, GUI design sohuld be done in a GUI :)
02:14 chilts        Ycros: past experience points to never using a UI editor ... but I guess I have to re-evaluate that one (it's been a long time since I started believing that)
02:13 Ycros         chilts: Design the UI using glade, and then just load up the glade file
02:11 chilts        :)
02:10 chris         patches accepted eythian  :)
02:10 eythian       they're not the same thing, just hinting that an opengl editor would be neat :)
02:09 chilts        not sure they're the same thing (or were you just pointing it out?)
02:08 eythian       chilts: libopengl-perl
02:05 chilts        one day though :)
02:05 chilts        every time I've tried GTK2 in Perl, I got bogged down in creating the UI :(
02:03 Ycros         indeed
02:03 chris         larsw: yep, all the work would be UI
02:01 chris         so im not the best person to ask
02:01 Ycros         ah :)
02:01 chris         havent used it in years
02:01 Ycros         chris: is it possible to get a tabular view in MarcEdit somehow?
02:01 chris         if you pm an email address ill send it along it might help out
01:58 chris         (ie removes duplicates)
01:58 chris         using isbn
01:58 chris         and one that groups together marc records
01:58 * chris_n     was thining of loading lots of marc records into a spreadsheet and trying to stay sane
01:58 chris         as an example
01:58 chris         that does a bulk update of isbns
01:57 chris         i can send you a script
01:57 Ycros         yes, I gathered :)
01:57 chris         i was more meaning using MARC::Batch and MARC::Record etc
01:57 chris_n       double-eek
01:56 chris         eek
01:56 Ycros         chris: well scripting is the previous solution that one of the other developers irma was working with was using. As in, spitting things out in a csv/tsv format, then irma would edit that inside a spreadsheet app
01:55 chris_n       iirc it did not work so swell
01:55 irmalibraries hi all .. distracted for a minute ...
01:55 chris_n       larsw: I saw a vi irc client script once
01:54 chris         larsw: you are most likely right
01:53 larsw         I know nothing about anything related to libraries, so couldn't even start to estimate, but I would assume it would be less than two weeks of full time work
01:53 chris         i usually end up scripting
01:53 Ycros         chris: just trying to work out an easy way of bulk editing/cleaning up data - either new stuff that's being imported or already inside koha
01:53 chris         yeah
01:53 larsw         chris, so looks to me like most of the code is already out there, and is free, so only the actual app code to do bulk editing would be needed, to write a truly free app... just needs to find someone to sponsor the development, or willing to do it themselves
01:52 chilts        heh
01:52 chris         Ycros: ahh cool ;)
01:52 chris         heh
01:52 larsw         note to self: this is not vi, control-w does not delete a word here *sigh*
01:52 chris         its really frustrating
01:51 chris         eythian: the thing is, the marc utilites is perl, using a lot of the same modules we use
01:51 Ycros         chris: I'm actually working with irmalibraries :)
01:51 eythian       chris: any chance of finding friendly sponsors to get together to get one written? How hard could it be? ;)
01:48 chris         hi irmalibraries
01:47 chris         would release under a free software license
01:47 chris         if you do find a free software one, id love to know about it .. id love if either of the tools (marcedit or http://www.liblime.com/news/ptfs-presents-marc-utilities-2013-metadata-converter)
01:46 Ycros         chris: yeah, free software preferable. Hmm, okay will look into those, thanks
01:43 chris         would probably be my pick
01:43 chris         http://people.oregonstate.edu/~reeset/marcedit/html/index.php
01:43 chris         but if you have access to a windows machine
01:42 chris         both can do bulk, they both are developed for windows tho, and only slightly work on linux
01:42 chris         and the Marc utils from ptfs
01:42 chris         but there is MarcEdit
01:42 chris         which would be so much cooler if they were actually free software
01:41 chris         there are a couple of freeware tools
01:41 Ycros         Hi, are there any good tools for bulk-editing MARC data? (either from the raw MARC XML format or the MARC format itself)