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chris: all good.... |
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hi kf |
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juan-xercode |
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g'morning |
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hi juan-xercode |
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hi henri |
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kf |
h juan-xercode :) |
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juan-xercode |
hi kf |
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juan-xercode |
yesterday i've been trying to set koha under a www.domain.com/koha1 |
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juan-xercode |
but, no success |
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juan-xercode |
i always get it working under a subdomain like koha1.domain.com |
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juan-xercode |
anybody try it?? |
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@wunder konstanz |
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juan-xercode: there are too many hardcoded paths in the templates for that to work easily |
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hi chris |
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hi kf |
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kf |
@wunder konstanz |
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kf: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Germany is 18.9�C (12:28 PM CET on March 25, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 39%. Dew Point: 5.0�C. Pressure: 29.79 in 1008.7 hPa (Steady). |
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owen |
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morning, owen |
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morning owen and jwagner |
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chris_n |
owen: do we use jquery.tablesorter.js for our table sorting? |
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chris_n |
good morning as well :) |
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owen |
Hi chris_n, yes we do |
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owen |
This one: http://tablesorter.com/docs/ |
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chris_n |
I just noticed that they have a table pagination addon for that script which might be a nicer way of handling pagination for long tables |
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owen |
Except don't you have to load the contents of all "pages" before you can display it that way? |
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I'm not sure, I just saw the add-on and had the thought |
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if it uses some sort of ajax type call back to grab each "page" it would not be too heavy |
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owen |
I you disable javascript and view this page you'll see a giant table: http://tablesorter.com/docs/example-pager.html |
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kf |
owen: looks really nice |
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chris_n |
but if I view the page source with js on, I do not see the entire table in the source |
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jwagner |
Question for folks, true or false? "Koha only supports Code 39 barcode symbology for printing scannable barcodes on hold-transfer slips" |
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is not an initiate in these things, however |
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chris_n |
jwagner: maybe |
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jwagner |
chris_n, nothing like a definitive answer :-) |
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chris_n |
there is support for a number of barcode types in various sections of Koha |
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chris_n |
I'm not sure what that section in particular supports |
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kf |
jwagner: I never saw a barcode on a hold slip... |
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kf |
? |
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jwagner |
Me either. |
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jwagner: it would probably be trivial to add if it does not |
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owen |
jwagner: Is that a LEK thing? |
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chris_n |
I think both of the barcode modules support nearly all forms of barcode |
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kf |
I was told that the printers can be a problem |
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kf: that might be true |
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kf |
because some slip printers dont produce readable barcodes |
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kf |
slip printer? whats the right word? |
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owen, not sure |
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collum |
It's mentioned in documentation under itembarcodelength - http://ow.ly/1qJ4s |
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collum |
llek documentation |
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collum, thanks. I'm going to have to get familiar with all that. |
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collum |
just did a google search. :) |
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chris_n |
yo-yo internet today brendan? |
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Hi all. |
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slef |
hdl_laptop: what does MT2116 mean on a commit log? |
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nengard |
woo hoo - irc not blocked ;) |
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jdavidb |
hi, nengard. |
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nengard |
hiya |
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Sharon |
did you get any sleep at that 'place of healing' nengard? |
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nengard |
no |
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nengard |
well 2 hours |
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nengard |
so no |
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nengard |
at 12am they came in to give me an IV - and then right after that the woman in the bed next to me decided it was time to wake up and talk |
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Sharon |
they tried to give my brother benedryl as a sleep aid and it didn't work, so he didn't sleep and it took longer to get better |
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nengard |
so first she tried to talk to me and then to the nurse |
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nengard |
and finally at 2am they took her away |
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nengard |
so i could sleep |
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Sharon |
lordy! |
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wizzyrea |
are you in the hospital right now? |
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nengard |
and it took another 2 hours to fall asleep with all the beeping and lights |
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nengard |
yes |
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wizzyrea |
poor thing |
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nengard |
they want to keep me another night |
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nengard |
:( |
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wizzyrea |
:( indeed |
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nengard |
i want my bed and my room darkening shades |
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nengard |
and the lack of beeping!! |
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Sharon |
need ear plugs, eye patch thingy and some hard core drugs |
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nengard |
i did put my ipod on eventually |
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Sharon |
I have to have all of that just to sleep in a hotel |
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nengard |
but those eye patch things bug me |
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wizzyrea |
ipod touch? there's an app called naturescape that has sweet nature sounds |
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wizzyrea |
and white noise |
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nengard |
in the hotels i take the towels and stick them in all the crevices that have light :) |
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nengard |
wizzyrea - oooooo - i'll look for that |
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Sharon |
my kind of light sleeper. |
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slef |
nengard: hope you get well soon |
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nengard |
thanks - me too!! |
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wizzyrea |
I bet you're tired of this :/ |
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nengard |
now i'm going to try and poke at the manual some - and maybe some bugs cause i'm soo sooo bored |
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slef |
does anyonw know what does MT2116 mean on a commit log? |
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slef |
anyone |
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* wizzyrea |
has no clue |
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nengard |
i think those are biblibre bug numbers |
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nengard |
the MT ones |
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nengard |
i forget how to find those details though .... brb |
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wizzyrea |
nengard You're like that chick from house a couple of weeks ago |
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wizzyrea |
with the constant running blog of everything |
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nengard |
the blogger?? :) |
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slef |
commit 523735ef6b97944dcbbb882704702028c7373c0e makes little sense to me |
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wizzyrea |
lol yea |
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nengard |
trust me i have left plenty out :) hehe |
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wizzyrea |
lol |
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slef |
I've not had time to read blogs for a couple of weeks. Not looking forward to opening my feedreader. |
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nengard |
most of my updates have been via facebook and twitter |
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nengard |
slef i can't find the link to the biblibre bugs site |
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nengard |
sorry |
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nengard |
but i do think that's what those numbers are - internal bug numbers |
| 14:53 |
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nengard |
cause i had an issue before with documenting a patch |
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slef |
right... I'll hang around in hope of a biblibre.commer appearing |
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slef |
or reading their scrollback ;-) |
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nengard |
wizzyrea any little website tweaks that need doing? anything at all ??? :) |
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wizzyrea |
um... we could work on transferring faq questions |
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nengard |
did some of them -but good idea |
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nengard |
i'll do more |
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hdl_laptop |
slef yes MT is Mantis. |
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nengard |
can anyone edit those? or just the creator? I ask cause some may be out of date |
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hdl_laptop |
our bugtracker. |
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slef |
hdl_laptop: can you tell me what MT2116 was about? |
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slef |
brb |
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wizzyrea |
the faq's? |
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wizzyrea |
for now you have to have pretty high level access to edit the faq's |
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wizzyrea |
I was working on the permissions part of it but got pulled off to do something else |
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wizzyrea |
oh, and I don't know if you saw the part about how if you type IRC in a post it will automatically link to the meebo widget |
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kf |
@wunder konstanz |
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munin` |
kf: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Germany is 20.7�C (3:58 PM CET on March 25, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 32%. Dew Point: 3.0�C. Pressure: 29.76 in 1007.7 hPa (Steady). |
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nengard |
wizzyrea i saw you were going to do that - but didn't try it :) awesome! |
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kf |
2389 words need attention |
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* kf |
sighs |
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hopes nengard gets well soon :) |
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nengard |
aww shucks :) thanks chris_n |
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nengard |
woo hoo - just heard the nurse say that the woman in the room with me (who likes to wake up at 2am and talk to herself and everyone around her - even if we're sleeping) is getting moved today! :) maybe a little better chance of sleep tonight |
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slef |
back |
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slef |
hdl_laptop: can you tell me what MT2116 was about? In particular, what made it worth changing C4::Record's interface and adding more dependencies during 3.0.x series? |
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slef |
juan-xercode: yoyo? |
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juan-xercode |
i'm testing a new irc |
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juan-xercode |
:) |
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chris_n |
heya slef |
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slef |
juan-xercode: it's going badly. |
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slef |
hi chris_n |
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Hi |
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jfbucas |
Does anybody have any experience or documentation regarding the migration from Heritage to Koha? |
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slef |
jfbucas: I might. |
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jfbucas |
thanks slef |
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slef |
jfbucas: what's the manufacturer's name? |
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slef |
I thought that was Oxford something or other but that's not on my notes. |
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jfbucas |
isoxford.com |
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http://www.isoxford.com/ |
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slef |
jfbucas: yep, not in my notes, so I guess I've no experience yet. |
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jfbucas |
ok, thanks anyway |
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slef |
jfbucas: you could try searching the lists and so on, but I think I've heard it doesn't speak standards. |
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slef |
jfbucas: Aha http://www.isoxford.com/heritage/marc |
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slef |
jfbucas: so unless you've bought that, I guess you're locked in. :-( |
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slef |
jfbucas: even then, it doesn't say if it exports copy information, so you might still have to do a stocktake. |
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jfbucas |
we bought it yes |
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jfbucas |
hum, that's what I'm afraid of |
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slef |
"elements of Heritage cataloguing not present in MARC, such as adding administration dates and linking to associated documents" erm, pretty sure MARC can have those, but I guess it depends exactly what they mean by MARC. |
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jfbucas |
I'm not exactly familiar with MARC or MARC 21 |
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jfbucas |
but I guess that's a standard to describe what can be described for each item of the catalog |
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jfbucas |
the main problem I have with heritage is that it is not compatible with OpenSource systems |
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slef |
jfbucas: simple test is to export a MARC record and look for copy data in the usual places (tags 852 and 952 IIRC) |
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slef |
MARC21 = MAchine Readable Cataloguing for the 21st century |
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jfbucas |
ok |
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slef |
Well, we (software.coop) speak about free software more than plain open source, but I know what you mean. |
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slef |
it doesn't follow open standards |
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nengard |
found something that appears to be blocked |
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nengard |
can't do z39.50 searches from here |
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jfbucas |
I'd just like to be able to get rid of the old Windows server |
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slef |
nengard: set up a VPN and route UDP over it? ;-) |
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nengard |
thanks for the tip - will do if i get desperate enough - but i have plenty of other work I can do instead |
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slef |
jfbucas: sounds like a good aim. |
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jfbucas |
:-) |
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slef |
nengard: seriously, connecting to a remote server and doing a search from there might be easier. |
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nengard |
oh i know - but i didn't have to do the search afterall - I found the answer elsewhere - that's all I meant :) |
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jfbucas |
slef: I've managed to export the catalog to some coma separated big text file |
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CGI546 |
Can Anyone please tell me how to change in OPAC layout? Like changing the color scheme |
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CGI546 |
Basically I am interesting in modifying .CSS file that I have added through Administration section. |
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CGI546 |
I want to modify CSS file that I already added. But I don't know how to access that file .. |
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kf |
CGI546: you cant add a file through administration, just point to it |
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kf |
use OPACUserCSS to copy and paste your css directly into the syspref |
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kf |
if you want to use a separate file you need to store it somewhere where you can access and change it, on your koha server or perhaps somewhere else on the web |
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CGI956 |
anyone here? |
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CGI956 |
greetings |
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sekjal |
hi, CGI956 |
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CGI956 |
hi, sekjal |
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CGI956 |
i'm a newbie |
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CGI956 |
total |
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sekjal |
welcome |
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CGI956 |
thank you |
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CGI956 |
i do need help, i'm rather confused about some things |
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sekjal |
hopefully we can clarify some stuff for you |
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CGI956 |
i've gone through the implementation checklist |
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CGI956 |
that liblime emailed me |
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CGI956 |
one thing, how do i "determine your production db's staff client and OPAC urls"? |
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CGI956 |
(btw, if anyone from liblime's here, please make sure you answer your emails please) |
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sekjal |
I wouldn't want to speak to LibLime's intent with that question, but I'd think it would mean what URLs do you want for your OPAC and for your staff client |
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sekjal |
for example, catalog.yourlibrary.org and staff.yourlibrary.org |
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CGI956 |
it seems that i would have to tell koha that |
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jwagner |
CGI956, I'm still getting familiar with Liblime's procedures (I manage implementations for PTFS), but in general we might have an internal server name for the system, and a name that you want it known by to the world. |
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jwagner |
As in sekjal's examples, that would be how you want the URL to be, perhaps similar to your other web sites. |
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CGI956 |
yes, indeed |
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CGI956 |
but i wonder if i have to pay for that extra or what |
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jwagner |
I don't speak to contracts :-) but it should just be a simple matter of a DNS alias. |
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CGI956 |
oh ok |
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CGI956 |
i wish they would answer my emails, they take a million years |
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CGI956 |
can i send you guys the url to my opac? |
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CGI956 |
see what it looks like |
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wizzyrea |
we don't really do support for liblime, unfortunately |
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wizzyrea |
but you can send it :) |
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CGI956 |
yes i mean just to have a look |
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CGI956 |
i just need to get my bearings as it were |
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wizzyrea |
fair enough |
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CGI956 |
http://ke0025.kohaexpress.com/ |
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jwagner |
That's pretty much straight out of the box. Any ideas on what you'd like it look like? Other Koha sites that you like? |
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wizzyrea |
hurray |
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CGI956 |
only one example i know is this one http://acpl.kohalibrary.com/ |
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wizzyrea |
yep, owen did that |
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waves |
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CGI956 |
yep, having gone through the implementation checklist it seems i've only configured the behind-the-scenes stuff such as circulation policies |
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wizzyrea |
owen did most of the design of koha, actually (the UI) |
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wizzyrea |
koha3 anyway |
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CGI956 |
awesome :) |
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jwagner |
owen++ |
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wizzyrea |
yep, he's awesome |
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CGI956 |
so how do i go about making changes, say, if i wanted it to look a little like that other page |
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wizzyrea |
hehe, owen I had never realized you have a branch "coolville" |
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wizzyrea |
I want to live there. |
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owen |
Yup, we've really got a Coolville. |
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jwagner |
Better than a Splitsville :-) |
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wizzyrea |
there are lots of tips here |
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wizzyrea |
http://www.myacpl.org/koha/ |
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wizzyrea |
owen's blog |
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wizzyrea |
on how to customize |
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jwagner |
CGI956, you can do a lot with stylesheets and settings -- I'll help you with that. |
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CGI956 |
really, that'd be great, jwagner! |
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wizzyrea |
it's kinf of her job ;) |
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CGI956 |
cool :-) |
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slef |
jfbucas: sounds fun(!) |
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jwagner |
it is now, wizzyrea :-) |
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high fives jwagner |
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jwagner |
But I don't promise to make your site look as good as owen's! |
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wizzyrea |
^.^ |
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CGI956 |
that's fine :-) |
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CGI956 |
i just want it to be functional |
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jfbucas |
slef : thanks for your help ! |
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jfbucas |
bye everybody |
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jwagner |
Gotta go to a meeting, back later. |
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kf |
bye #koha :) |
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CGI727 |
hi |
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CGI727 |
hi all |
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CGI727 |
i know that i can set up a calendar for holidays/days closed |
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wizzyrea |
http://widget.mibbit.com/?sett[…]z&channel=%23koha |
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CGI727 |
but |
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wizzyrea |
this interface is a little nicer for IRC |
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wizzyrea |
plus you can pick your nick |
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mib_c7cf7d |
nice |
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mib_c7cf7d |
thanks! |
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wizzyrea |
yep, from koha-community.org |
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mib_c7cf7d |
this is much better |
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mib_c7cf7d |
so i just save the link? |
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wizzyrea |
or you can always get it by going to koha-community.org and click on support -> free |
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mib_c7cf7d |
awesome |
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mib_c7cf7d |
it's the same list just a diff interface? |
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wizzyrea |
yep |
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wizzyrea |
and you can choose a nick so we know who you are |
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wizzyrea |
;) |
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wizzyrea |
so.. holidays |
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salk_koha |
hello? |
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wizzyrea |
that wouldn't be salina kansas would it? |
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wizzyrea |
hi ;) |
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wizzyrea |
oh dear, I just freaked you out |
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mib_vdkcno |
my library is closed weekends and there is no one to check in returned items |
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salk_koha |
no, ok |
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wizzyrea |
ok |
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mib_vdkcno |
so how do i make sure that fines are not calculated for weekends? |
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mib_vdkcno |
the calendar module doesn't seem to offer that option, does it? |
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wizzyrea |
I think this can be done, but no, I don't think it's in the calendar |
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owen |
mib_vdkcno: Do you have a "finesCalendar" system preference? |
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owen |
"Specify whether to use the Calendar in calculating duedates and fines" |
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owen |
One of its settings is "noFinesWhenClosed" |
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mib_vdkcno |
let me check... |
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mib_vdkcno |
yes yes |
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wizzyrea |
yep, ty that's what I was thinking of owen |
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mib_vdkcno |
but isn't that just to enable the calendar to function |
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mib_vdkcno |
and in the calendar i have holidays such as christmas, etc |
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mib_vdkcno |
but how do i do it for saturdays and sundays |
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wizzyrea |
the option is "no fines when closed" |
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owen |
mib_vdkcno: You should specify a repeating holiday for Saturdays and Sundays |
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mib_vdkcno |
aaaaaaah ok |
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mib_vdkcno |
:-) |
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mib_vdkcno |
gee, thanks! |
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wizzyrea |
we aim to please |
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mib_vdkcno |
what a great list! |
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owen |
Channel. :) |
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mib_vdkcno |
i'll be back with my nick |
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wizzyrea |
i hate that cgi irc interface |
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wizzyrea |
it's terribad |
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jmill2010 |
now that makes sense |
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jmill2010 |
:-) |
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wizzyrea |
:) wb |
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wizzyrea |
owen did you see the vid we posted demoing the weird holds business? |
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owen |
I don't think so |
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wizzyrea |
(and if so, is it the same stuff you're seeing) |
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wizzyrea |
http://www.nexpresslibrary.org[…]ous-holds-issues/ |
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owen |
Naturally charles xavier is at Hiawatha. Everyone knows that. |
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wizzyrea |
^.^ |
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wizzyrea |
what you didn't know was that barack obama was from bern ks |
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owen |
Everyone knows that! |
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salk_koha |
I've got a question about getting/debugging Amazon content... but in exchange for help or just to help my karma I'd also like to contribute a php script I wrote that translates MARC items info from the Koha 2.27 to Koha 3.x standard... Any takers? |
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wizzyrea |
contribs.koha.org |
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owen |
wizzyrea: I've never see the "in transit from nobody" thing... At least I've never seen that actual status on an item. I don't know that it hasn't happened. |
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salk_koha |
OK I'll add to contribs |
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wizzyrea |
well, it happens when you get two items for the same patron at the same library, but checking one in triggers the next hold |
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sekjal |
wizzyrea: My initial guess is that priority number that's displayed on the holds confirmation page is being passed directly into the database, instead of recalculated on the fly |
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wizzyrea |
every time we do it we get slightly different (though usually explainable) results |
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sekjal |
and then having multiple, equal priorities is leading to the wirecrossing on checking/transfer |
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wizzyrea |
that's what my thought was sekjal |
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wizzyrea |
no, the priorities get rewritten when the first hold is filled |
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wizzyrea |
they are pretty much auto correcting |
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wizzyrea |
our speculation is that it's a race about what happens when two people mod the same reserve row at the same time |
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wizzyrea |
some data is written from both requests, but the output display doesn't compensate for that |
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wizzyrea |
oh drat he's gone |
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wizzyrea |
sekjal: repeat for you: our speculation is that it's a race about what happens when two people mod the same reserve row at the same time |
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wizzyrea |
the output is showing what's already there, but the submit is actually writing |
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wizzyrea |
and you can have 2 writing at the same time |
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wizzyrea |
the same data on 2 items, or different data on the same item |
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wizzyrea |
theoretically you should never have the same item in 2 locations at once |
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wizzyrea |
so that condition is, meh |
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chris_n |
unless you invoke the clone method... ;-) |
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wizzyrea |
but writing identical hold fulfillment data on two items = yikes |
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* wizzyrea |
invokes the clone method on an iron skillet and bonks chris_n with it |
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wizzyrea |
drat, it didn't work, I only got the rubber one. |
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hides under his desk |
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wizzyrea |
:) j/k |
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chris_n |
:) |
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wizzyrea |
I luv u? |
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wizzyrea |
;) |
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chris_n |
your skillet is probably broken now if the truth were known ;) |
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wizzyrea |
that your head is harder than the hardest steel? |
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wizzyrea |
that sound you hear... that's my mind blowing. |
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chris_n |
weeeell... that depends on who you ask |
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richard |
hi |
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chris_n |
heya richard |
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salk_koha |
ok, just added my contrib - "Koha v 2.2x to v 3.x MARC migration tool, revision 1.0" |
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wizzyrea |
excellent : |
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wizzyrea |
:) |
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salk_koha |
Now.. can someone help w/Amazon debugging |
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salk_koha |
I'm not getting anything in the koha_error_log |
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salk_koha |
and I have my debug level set in the prefs to 2 |
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salk_koha |
I have put in my ID and private key (Secret Password in Amazon lingo) into the prefs. |
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wizzyrea |
I don't recall what your problem was exactly |
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wizzyrea |
? |
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wizzyrea |
with amazon |
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wizzyrea |
can you elaborate? |
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salk_koha |
well, I don't see any of the cover images in the catalog from amazon |
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salk_koha |
none of the 'enhanced content' is viewable |
| 19:45 |
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salk_koha |
but I have turned on all of the appropriate prefs related to amazon content |
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wizzyrea |
you have all of these prefs set correctly? |
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wizzyrea |
http://screencast.com/t/ZjJiNzQ1Y |
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salk_koha |
standby |
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wizzyrea |
is there a firewall or other content filter blocking amazon access from where the server is? |
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wizzyrea |
that layout may not be similar to what you're looking at but the names are the same, I believe |
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wizzyrea |
http://www.screencast.com/t/NDgyMzU5MjY |
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salk_koha |
yes, the prefs are slightly different since I'm using 3.00.04 but I have all of this set similar and have both the ID and private key ( is this what amazon calls the 'secret access key'?) |
| 19:49 |
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wizzyrea |
i believe so |
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salk_koha |
I don't have *any* firewall rules in place. |
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salk_koha |
but I am going to double check that there isn't anythign on our switch that might be blocking there |
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salk_koha |
do you know what port I need to have open? |
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salk_koha |
do you know what port I need to have open? |
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wizzyrea |
well it's port 80 traffic |
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wizzyrea |
if youc an surf from your server (theoretically) amazon images should work |
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wizzyrea |
if I had to guess you have a typo or a space in one of your amazon keys |
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wizzyrea |
that got me one |
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wizzyrea |
once |
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wizzyrea |
a space or tab at the end of the key made it not work |
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salk_koha |
ok, ill try that |
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salk_koha |
do you know of any logs that I can check to see where it's failing? |
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wizzyrea |
I don't, maybe someone else does |
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wizzyrea |
you might try the apache logs |
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chris |
morning |
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chris |
@wunder wellington nz |
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munin` |
chris: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 16.0�C (8:00 AM NZDT on March 26, 2010). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 77%. Dew Point: 12.0�C. Pressure: 29.89 in 1012 hPa (Rising). |
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wizzyrea |
@wunder lawrence, ks |
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munin` |
wizzyrea: The current temperature in Channel 6 Downtown, Lawrence, Kansas is 13.7�C (3:00 PM CDT on March 25, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 46%. Dew Point: 2.0�C. Pressure: 29.95 in 1014.1 hPa (Steady). |
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wizzyrea |
ooh, by a hair chris |
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salk_koha |
thanks, nothing there |
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slef |
@wunder Weston-super-Mare SOMERSET |
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munin` |
slef: The current temperature in Weston-Super-Mare, United Kingdom is 7.5�C (8:00 PM GMT on March 25, 2010). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 89%. Dew Point: 6.0�C. Windchill: 5.0�C. Pressure: 29.33 in 993.1 hPa (Rising). |
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chris |
sekjal: you about? |
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sekjal |
yes, chris, I'm here |
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chris |
is the nyu health sciences koha opac on the web? |
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sekjal |
hslcat.med.nyu.edu |
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chris |
thank you :) |
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sekjal |
gladly |
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hilongo |
Hello there ... |
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chris |
hi hilongo |
| 21:29 |
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hilongo |
I'm having some problems in my 3.0.6 installation with diacritics and searching ... |
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hilongo |
I was wondering if importing my records vis XML would be helpful |
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chris |
ahh you probably want to chat with the french guys, they have solved those, its to do with zebra |
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chris |
you have to make sure its using dom, and do some other thing i forget |
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chris |
if/when you find out, let me know and ill add it to the searching FAQ |
| 21:31 |
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hilongo |
ok ... |
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chris |
lemme do a quick mailing list search |
| 21:32 |
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hilongo |
if you find nothing .. I'll throw it to the list and wait for some french answer :) |
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chris |
word-phrase-utf.chr |
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chris |
http://git.biblibre.com/cgi-bi[…]g-utf.chr;hb=HEAD |
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hilongo |
hmmm... the bad news is that my word-phrase-utf.chr is the same ... |
| 21:33 |
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hilongo |
But I think I have some other problem ... |
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chris |
sort-string-utf.chr? |
| 21:35 |
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hilongo |
cause I have some records with some type of diacritics and some other records with a different type of diacritic... |
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hilongo |
_Hard to explain ... :P |
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jmill2010 |
how do I define holds per item type? |
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jmill2010 |
i've checked under item types and there is nothing that will allow to set a hold policy |
| 21:41 |
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hilongo |
some of my accented o lokks like "C3B3" and some others looks like "cc81" |
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wizzyrea |
jmill that's under circ and fine rules |
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hilongo |
jmill2010: did you look at Circulations rules? |
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jmill2010 |
yes |
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jmill2010 |
also there is nothing there regarding holds |
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wizzyrea |
http://screencast.com/t/YzdkNjQxZ |
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wizzyrea |
that's the circ and fine rules |
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jmill2010 |
apparently i don't have that choice |
| 21:44 |
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wizzyrea |
what version? |
| 21:44 |
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hilongo |
I'm with 3.0.6 and I have it ... |
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jmill2010 |
koha express |
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jmill2010 |
by liblime |
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jmill2010 |
:-( |
| 21:45 |
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wizzyrea |
nah no need to frown |
| 21:46 |
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wizzyrea |
actually express probably doesn't have that |
| 21:46 |
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wizzyrea |
would have been developed after the release you are using |
| 21:47 |
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chris |
jmill2010: you could email ptfs and ask them to upgrade you ? |
| 21:47 |
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wizzyrea |
and when we ask for version, we want you to go to More -> About Koha |
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jmill2010 |
ok |
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jmill2010 |
i'll check |
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wizzyrea |
that is easier for us to get a handle on than koha express :) |
| 21:47 |
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wizzyrea |
b/c we don't know what version they're running |
| 21:48 |
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wizzyrea |
easy enough to ind out though |
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wizzyrea |
find, even |
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jmill2010 |
3.00.02.012 |
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jmill2010 |
koha version: 3.00.02.012 |
| 21:48 |
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chris |
ah yeah, thats pretty old |
| 21:49 |
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wizzyrea |
:/ yea you probably don't have the itype holds stuff |
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wizzyrea |
sorry :( |
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jmill2010 |
ok geez :-) |
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jmill2010 |
it's funny cause i got it only last Friday |
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jmill2010 |
things change pretty fast |
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jmill2010 |
unless liblime's given me a very old version just for kicks |
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wizzyrea |
oh that's old like, a couple of years |
| 21:50 |
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wizzyrea |
they um, yea they do that |
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jmill2010 |
!!! |
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jmill2010 |
they should be called liblame, shouldn't they |
| 21:51 |
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wizzyrea |
2 releases back, anyway |
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* wizzyrea |
did not suggest that you say that |
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chris |
3.02 was released 3 even |
| 21:51 |
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wizzyrea |
just for the record |
| 21:51 |
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chris |
June 4 2009 |
| 21:51 |
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chris |
3.0.2 was released |
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chris |
3.0.5 released december 15 2009 |
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chris |
3.0.6 any day now |
| 21:52 |
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wizzyrea |
oh so not *that* long but still several releases back |
| 21:52 |
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chris |
about 400 patches ago |
| 21:53 |
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wizzyrea |
I wouldn't worry too much about it jmill, we are hopeful that ptfs will make their customers happy |
| 21:53 |
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jmill2010 |
yes |
| 21:53 |
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wizzyrea |
so if you don't like something, complain |
| 21:53 |
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jmill2010 |
so am i |
| 21:53 |
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wizzyrea |
;) |
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jmill2010 |
thanks, yep! |
| 21:53 |
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* wizzyrea |
is a habitual complainer ;) |
| 21:53 |
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chris |
i lie 847 patches ago |
| 21:54 |
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wizzyrea |
real thorn in their side |
| 21:54 |
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chris |
http://stats.workbuffer.org/ko[…]sion3.0/tags.html |
| 21:54 |
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wizzyrea |
ok. 10 mins early, but gonna head out |
| 21:54 |
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* chris |
is unofficial koha historian |
| 21:54 |
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wizzyrea |
pff unofficial |
| 21:54 |
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wizzyrea |
I think you mean "the guy anal enough to keep all the history and records in order" |
| 21:54 |
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wizzyrea |
;) |
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chris |
heh |
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jmill2010 |
so hopefully ptfs will provide the latest version |
| 21:55 |
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wizzyrea |
once it gets released, I imagine they will, yes |
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chris |
yep hopefull they will upgrade to the latest stable |
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chris |
i expect them to, they seem competent |
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jmill2010 |
i already got in touch with one of them earlier today through this list |
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wizzyrea |
right, jane |
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chris |
cool |
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jmill2010 |
yes, jwagner |
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wizzyrea |
she's super nice |
| 21:57 |
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wizzyrea |
competent, too |
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jmill2010 |
perfect |
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wizzyrea |
I would recommend at least for now sticking with whatever support contact info they've given you, though. They are totally swamped |
| 21:58 |
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wizzyrea |
we can help you with some stuff, so if it's minor it doesn't hurt to ask |
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wizzyrea |
but this isn't really a forum for LL customers to get help that only LL can provide. |
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wizzyrea |
if that makes sense |
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jmill2010 |
yes it does |
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jmill2010 |
it's just the LL hasn't answer any of my emails since two days ago |
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jmill2010 |
answered |
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wizzyrea |
yea, that happens. They're in transition, I imagine it can only get better |
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jmill2010 |
yes, i guess that's what it is |
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wizzyrea |
anyway, come hang out with us anytime ;) |
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wizzyrea |
ok, off to get the spud |
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wizzyrea |
later peeps |
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chris |
cya later |
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jmill2010 |
later |
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jmill2010 |
thanks for everything:) |
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wizzyrea_away |
sure thing |
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jmill2010 |
yep now that i'm revising my implementation checklist it appears that many of my questions have to do with the fact that I have an old version, which explains the discrepancies between what the manual says and what actually on my koha |
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jmill2010 |
what i actually see in my koha system, i mean |
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chris |
yep that would make sense |
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chris_n |
liblame... hehe |
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jmill2010 |
:) |
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jmill2010 |
just a joke |
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chris_n |
jmill2010: not to worry, they have earned all of the jokes and otherwise... but we are trusting that better things will come now that PTFS is in charge |
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jmill2010 |
indeed, thanks, chris_n |
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