Time  Nick          Message
22:33 jmill2010     indeed, thanks, chris_n
22:31 chris_n       jmill2010: not to worry, they have earned all of the jokes and otherwise... but we are trusting that better things will come now that PTFS is in charge
22:24 jmill2010     just a joke
22:24 jmill2010     :)
22:21 chris_n       [off] opps
22:21 chris_n       liblame... hehe
22:09 chris         yep that would make sense
22:08 jmill2010     what i actually see in my koha system, i mean
22:07 jmill2010     yep now that i'm revising my implementation checklist it appears that many of my questions have to do with the fact that I have an old version, which explains the discrepancies between what the manual says and what actually on my koha
22:02 wizzyrea_away sure thing
22:02 jmill2010     thanks for everything:)
22:02 jmill2010     later
22:01 chris         cya later
22:01 wizzyrea      later peeps
22:01 wizzyrea      ok, off to get the spud
22:01 wizzyrea      anyway, come hang out with us anytime ;)
22:01 jmill2010     yes, i guess that's what it is
22:01 wizzyrea      yea, that happens. They're in transition, I imagine it can only get better
22:00 jmill2010     answered
22:00 jmill2010     it's just the LL hasn't answer any of my emails since two days ago
21:59 jmill2010     yes it does
21:59 wizzyrea      if that makes sense
21:59 wizzyrea      but this isn't really a forum for LL customers to get help that only LL can provide.
21:58 wizzyrea      we can help you with some stuff, so if it's minor it doesn't hurt to ask
21:58 wizzyrea      I would recommend at least for now sticking with whatever support contact info they've given you, though. They are totally swamped
21:57 jmill2010     perfect
21:57 wizzyrea      competent, too
21:57 wizzyrea      she's super nice
21:56 jmill2010     yes, jwagner
21:56 chris         cool
21:56 wizzyrea      right, jane
21:56 jmill2010     i already got in touch with one of them earlier today through this list
21:55 chris         i expect them to, they seem competent
21:55 chris         yep hopefull they will upgrade to the latest stable
21:55 wizzyrea      once it gets released, I imagine they will, yes
21:54 jmill2010     so hopefully ptfs will provide the latest version
21:54 chris         heh
21:54 wizzyrea      ;)
21:54 wizzyrea      I think you mean "the guy anal enough to keep all the history and records in order"
21:54 wizzyrea      pff unofficial
21:54 * chris       is unofficial koha historian
21:54 wizzyrea      ok. 10 mins early, but gonna head out
21:54 chris         http://stats.workbuffer.org/koha-version3.0/tags.html
21:54 wizzyrea      real thorn in their side
21:53 chris         i lie 847 patches ago
21:53 * wizzyrea    is a habitual complainer ;)
21:53 jmill2010     thanks, yep!
21:53 wizzyrea      ;)
21:53 jmill2010     so am i
21:53 wizzyrea      so if you don't like something, complain
21:53 jmill2010     yes
21:53 wizzyrea      I wouldn't worry too much about it jmill, we are hopeful that ptfs will make their customers happy
21:52 chris         about 400 patches ago
21:52 wizzyrea      oh so not *that* long but still several releases back
21:52 chris         3.0.6 any day now
21:51 chris         3.0.5 released december 15 2009
21:51 chris         3.0.2 was released
21:51 chris         June 4 2009
21:51 wizzyrea      just for the record
21:51 chris         3.02 was released 3 even
21:51 * wizzyrea    did not suggest that you say that
21:51 wizzyrea      2 releases back, anyway
21:51 jmill2010     they should be called liblame, shouldn't they
21:50 jmill2010     !!!
21:50 wizzyrea      they um, yea they do that
21:50 wizzyrea      oh that's old like, a couple of years
21:50 jmill2010     unless liblime's given me a very old version just for kicks
21:50 jmill2010     things change pretty fast
21:49 jmill2010     it's funny cause i got it only last Friday
21:49 jmill2010     ok geez :-)
21:49 wizzyrea      sorry :(
21:49 wizzyrea      :/ yea you probably don't have the itype holds stuff
21:48 chris         ah yeah, thats pretty old
21:48 jmill2010     koha version: 3.00.02.012
21:48 jmill2010     3.00.02.012
21:48 wizzyrea      find, even
21:48 wizzyrea      easy enough to ind out though
21:47 wizzyrea      b/c we don't know what version they're running
21:47 wizzyrea      that is easier for us to get a handle on than koha express :)
21:47 jmill2010     i'll check
21:47 jmill2010     ok
21:47 wizzyrea      and when we ask for version, we want you to go to More -> About Koha
21:47 chris         jmill2010: you could email ptfs and ask them to upgrade you ?
21:46 wizzyrea      would have been developed after the release you are using
21:46 wizzyrea      actually express probably doesn't have that
21:45 wizzyrea      nah no need to frown
21:44 jmill2010     :-(
21:44 jmill2010     by liblime
21:44 jmill2010     koha express
21:44 hilongo       I'm with 3.0.6 and I have it ...
21:44 wizzyrea      what version?
21:43 jmill2010     apparently i don't have that choice
21:42 wizzyrea      that's the circ and fine rules
21:42 wizzyrea      http://screencast.com/t/YzdkNjQxZ
21:42 jmill2010     also there is nothing there regarding holds
21:41 jmill2010     yes
21:41 hilongo       jmill2010: did you look at Circulations rules?
21:41 wizzyrea      jmill that's under circ and fine rules
21:41 hilongo       some of my accented o lokks like "C3B3" and some others looks like "cc81"
21:40 jmill2010     i've checked under item types and there is nothing that will allow to set a hold policy
21:38 jmill2010     how do I define holds per item type?
21:35 hilongo       _Hard to explain ... :P
21:35 hilongo       cause I have some records with some type of diacritics and some other records with a different type of diacritic...
21:33 chris         sort-string-utf.chr?
21:33 hilongo       But I think I have some other problem ...
21:33 hilongo       hmmm... the bad news is that my word-phrase-utf.chr is the same ...
21:32 chris         http://git.biblibre.com/cgi-bin/gitweb.cgi?p=koha;a=blob_plain;f=etc/zebradb/lang_defs/fr/sort-string-utf.chr;hb=HEAD
21:32 chris         word-phrase-utf.chr
21:32 hilongo       if you find nothing .. I'll throw it to the list and wait for some french answer :)
21:31 chris         lemme do a quick mailing list search
21:31 hilongo       ok ...
21:30 chris         if/when you find out, let me know and ill add it to the searching FAQ
21:30 chris         you have to make sure its using dom, and do some other thing i forget
21:30 chris         ahh you probably want to chat with the french guys, they have solved those, its to do with zebra
21:30 hilongo       I was wondering if importing my records vis XML would be helpful
21:29 hilongo       I'm having some problems in my 3.0.6 installation with diacritics and searching ...
21:28 chris         hi hilongo
21:28 hilongo       Hello there ...
20:12 sekjal        gladly
20:12 chris         thank you :)
20:12 sekjal        hslcat.med.nyu.edu
20:12 chris         is the nyu health sciences koha opac on the web?
20:12 sekjal        yes, chris, I'm here
20:11 chris         sekjal: you about?
20:05 munin`        slef: The current temperature in Weston-Super-Mare, United Kingdom is 7.5�C (8:00 PM GMT on March 25, 2010). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 89%. Dew Point: 6.0�C. Windchill: 5.0�C. Pressure: 29.33 in 993.1 hPa (Rising).
20:05 slef          @wunder Weston-super-Mare SOMERSET
20:02 salk_koha     thanks, nothing there
20:02 wizzyrea      ooh, by a hair chris
20:02 munin`        wizzyrea: The current temperature in Channel 6 Downtown, Lawrence, Kansas is 13.7�C (3:00 PM CDT on March 25, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 46%. Dew Point: 2.0�C. Pressure: 29.95 in 1014.1 hPa (Steady).
20:01 wizzyrea      @wunder lawrence, ks
20:01 munin`        chris: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 16.0�C (8:00 AM NZDT on March 26, 2010). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 77%. Dew Point: 12.0�C. Pressure: 29.89 in 1012 hPa (Rising).
20:01 chris         @wunder wellington nz
20:00 chris         morning
19:57 wizzyrea      you might try the apache logs
19:57 wizzyrea      I don't, maybe someone else does
19:56 salk_koha     do you know of any logs that I can check to see where it's failing?
19:56 salk_koha     ok, ill try that
19:55 wizzyrea      a space or tab at the end of the key made it not work
19:55 wizzyrea      once
19:55 wizzyrea      that got me one
19:55 wizzyrea      if I had to guess you have a typo or a space in one of your amazon keys
19:54 wizzyrea      if youc an surf from your server (theoretically) amazon images should work
19:54 wizzyrea      well it's port 80 traffic
19:50 salk_koha     do you know what port I need to have open?
19:49 salk_koha     do you know what port I need to have open?
19:49 salk_koha     but I am going to double check that there isn't anythign on our switch that might be blocking there
19:49 salk_koha     I don't have *any* firewall rules in place.
19:49 wizzyrea      i believe so
19:48 salk_koha     yes, the prefs are slightly different since I'm using 3.00.04 but I have all of this set similar and have both the ID and private key ( is this what amazon calls the 'secret access key'?)
19:48 wizzyrea      http://www.screencast.com/t/NDgyMzU5MjY
19:46 wizzyrea      that layout may not be similar to what you're looking at but the names are the same, I believe
19:46 wizzyrea      is there a firewall or other content filter blocking amazon access from where the server is?
19:45 salk_koha     standby
19:45 wizzyrea      http://screencast.com/t/ZjJiNzQ1Y
19:45 wizzyrea      you have all of these prefs set correctly?
19:45 salk_koha     but I have turned on all of the appropriate prefs related to amazon content
19:45 salk_koha     none of the 'enhanced content' is viewable
19:45 salk_koha     well, I don't see any of the cover images in the catalog from amazon
19:44 wizzyrea      can you elaborate?
19:44 wizzyrea      with amazon
19:44 wizzyrea      ?
19:44 wizzyrea      I don't recall what your problem was exactly
19:37 salk_koha     I have put in my ID and private key (Secret Password in Amazon lingo) into the prefs.
19:36 salk_koha     and I have my debug level set in the prefs to 2
19:36 salk_koha     I'm not getting anything in the koha_error_log
19:36 salk_koha     Now.. can someone help w/Amazon debugging
19:35 wizzyrea      :)
19:35 wizzyrea      excellent :
19:35 salk_koha     ok, just added my contrib - "Koha v 2.2x to v 3.x MARC migration tool, revision 1.0"
19:33 chris_n       heya richard
19:33 richard       hi
19:32 chris_n       weeeell... that depends on who you ask
19:32 wizzyrea      that sound you hear... that's my mind blowing.
19:31 wizzyrea      that your head is harder than the hardest steel?
19:31 chris_n       your skillet is probably broken now if the truth were known ;)
19:30 wizzyrea      ;)
19:30 wizzyrea      I luv u?
19:30 chris_n       :)
19:30 wizzyrea      :) j/k
19:30 * chris_n     hides under his desk
19:30 wizzyrea      drat, it didn't work, I only got the rubber one.
19:29 * wizzyrea    invokes the clone method on an iron skillet and bonks chris_n with it
19:29 wizzyrea      but writing identical hold fulfillment data on two items = yikes
19:29 chris_n       unless you invoke the clone method... ;-)
19:29 wizzyrea      so that condition is, meh
19:28 wizzyrea      theoretically you should never have the same item in 2 locations at once
19:27 wizzyrea      the same data on 2 items, or different data on the same item
19:27 wizzyrea      and you can have 2 writing at the same time
19:27 wizzyrea      the output is showing what's already there, but the submit is actually writing
19:26 wizzyrea      sekjal: repeat for you: our speculation is that it's a race about what happens when two people mod the same reserve row at the same time
19:25 wizzyrea      oh drat he's gone
19:25 wizzyrea      some data is written from both requests, but the output display doesn't compensate for that
19:24 wizzyrea      our speculation is that it's a race about what happens when two people mod the same reserve row at the same time
19:23 wizzyrea      they are pretty much auto correcting
19:23 wizzyrea      no, the priorities get rewritten when the first hold is filled
19:23 wizzyrea      that's what my thought was sekjal
19:23 sekjal        and then having multiple, equal priorities is leading to the wirecrossing on checking/transfer
19:23 wizzyrea      every time we do it we get slightly different (though usually explainable) results
19:23 sekjal        wizzyrea:  My initial guess is that priority number that's displayed on the holds confirmation page is being passed directly into the database, instead of recalculated on the fly
19:22 wizzyrea      well, it happens when you get two items for the same patron at the same library, but checking one in triggers the next hold
19:22 salk_koha     OK I'll add to contribs
19:22 owen          wizzyrea: I've never see the "in transit from nobody" thing... At least I've never seen that actual status on an item. I don't know that it hasn't happened.
19:22 wizzyrea      contribs.koha.org
19:21 salk_koha     I've got a question about getting/debugging Amazon content... but in exchange for help or just to help my karma I'd also like to contribute a php script I wrote that translates MARC items info from the Koha 2.27  to Koha 3.x standard... Any takers?
19:20 owen          Everyone knows that!
19:19 wizzyrea      what you didn't know was that barack obama was from bern ks
19:19 wizzyrea      ^.^
19:18 owen          Naturally charles xavier is at Hiawatha. Everyone knows that.
19:15 wizzyrea      http://www.nexpresslibrary.org/placing-and-processing-simultaneous-holds-issues/
19:15 wizzyrea      (and if so, is it the same stuff you're seeing)
19:15 owen          I don't think so
19:14 wizzyrea      owen did you see the vid we posted demoing the weird holds business?
19:13 wizzyrea      :) wb
19:13 jmill2010     :-)
19:13 jmill2010     now that makes sense
19:12 wizzyrea      it's terribad
19:12 wizzyrea      i hate that cgi irc interface
19:12 mib_vdkcno    i'll be back with my nick
19:10 owen          Channel. :)
19:10 mib_vdkcno    what a great list!
19:10 wizzyrea      we aim to please
19:09 mib_vdkcno    gee, thanks!
19:07 mib_vdkcno    :-)
19:07 mib_vdkcno    aaaaaaah ok
19:07 owen          mib_vdkcno: You should specify a repeating holiday for Saturdays and Sundays
19:07 wizzyrea      the option is "no fines when closed"
19:07 mib_vdkcno    but how do i do it for saturdays and sundays
19:07 mib_vdkcno    and in the calendar i have holidays such as christmas, etc
19:06 mib_vdkcno    but isn't that just to enable the calendar to function
19:06 wizzyrea      yep, ty that's what I was thinking of owen
19:06 mib_vdkcno    yes yes
19:06 mib_vdkcno    let me check...
19:05 owen          One of its settings is "noFinesWhenClosed"
19:05 owen          "Specify whether to use the Calendar in calculating duedates and fines"
19:05 owen          mib_vdkcno: Do you have a "finesCalendar" system preference?
19:05 wizzyrea      I think this can be done, but no, I don't think it's in the calendar
19:04 mib_vdkcno    the calendar module doesn't seem to offer that option, does it?
19:04 mib_vdkcno    so how do i make sure that fines are not calculated for weekends?
19:03 wizzyrea      ok
19:03 salk_koha     no, ok
19:03 mib_vdkcno    my library is closed weekends and there is no one to check in returned items
19:03 wizzyrea      oh dear, I just freaked you out
19:03 wizzyrea      hi ;)
19:03 wizzyrea      that wouldn't be salina kansas would it?
19:03 salk_koha     hello?
19:02 wizzyrea      so.. holidays
19:02 wizzyrea      ;)
19:02 wizzyrea      and you can choose a nick so we know who you are
19:01 wizzyrea      yep
19:01 mib_c7cf7d    it's the same list just a diff interface?
19:01 mib_c7cf7d    awesome
19:01 wizzyrea      or you can always get it by going to koha-community.org and click on support -> free
19:01 mib_c7cf7d    so i just save the link?
19:00 mib_c7cf7d    this is much better
19:00 wizzyrea      yep, from koha-community.org
19:00 mib_c7cf7d    thanks!
19:00 mib_c7cf7d    nice
19:00 wizzyrea      plus you can pick your nick
19:00 wizzyrea      this interface is a little nicer for IRC
19:00 CGI727        but
18:59 wizzyrea      http://widget.mibbit.com/?settings=1392bed8b563d8534da6aec9288199ef&server=irc.katipo.co.nz&channel=%23koha
18:59 CGI727        i know that i can set up a calendar for holidays/days closed
18:59 CGI727        hi all
18:59 CGI727        hi
17:56 kf            bye #koha :)
17:49 jwagner       Gotta go to a meeting, back later.
17:48 jfbucas       bye everybody
17:48 jfbucas       slef : thanks for your help !
17:47 CGI956        i just want it to be functional
17:47 CGI956        that's fine :-)
17:47 wizzyrea      ^.^
17:47 jwagner       But I don't promise to make your site look as good as owen's!
17:47 * wizzyrea    high fives jwagner
17:46 jwagner       it is now, wizzyrea :-)
17:46 slef          jfbucas: sounds fun(!)
17:45 CGI956        cool :-)
17:44 wizzyrea      it's kinf of her job ;)
17:44 CGI956        really, that'd be great, jwagner!
17:43 jwagner       CGI956, you can do a lot with stylesheets and settings -- I'll help you with that.
17:43 wizzyrea      on how to customize
17:42 wizzyrea      owen's blog
17:42 wizzyrea      http://www.myacpl.org/koha/
17:42 wizzyrea      there are lots of tips here
17:42 jwagner       Better than a Splitsville :-)
17:42 owen          Yup, we've really got a Coolville.
17:42 wizzyrea      I want to live there.
17:41 wizzyrea      hehe, owen I had never realized you have a branch "coolville"
17:41 CGI956        so how do i go about making changes, say, if i wanted it to look a little like that other page
17:41 wizzyrea      yep, he's awesome
17:41 jwagner       owen++
17:41 CGI956        awesome :)
17:40 wizzyrea      koha3 anyway
17:40 wizzyrea      owen did most of the design of koha, actually (the UI)
17:40 CGI956        yep, having gone through the implementation checklist it seems i've only configured the behind-the-scenes stuff such as circulation policies
17:40 * owen        waves
17:40 wizzyrea      yep, owen did that
17:39 CGI956        only one example i know is this one http://acpl.kohalibrary.com/
17:38 wizzyrea      hurray
17:38 jwagner       That's pretty much straight out of the box.  Any ideas on what you'd like it look like?  Other Koha sites that you like?
17:37 CGI956        http://ke0025.kohaexpress.com/
17:37 wizzyrea      fair enough
17:37 CGI956        i just need to get my bearings as it were
17:37 CGI956        yes i mean just to have a look
17:37 wizzyrea      but you can send it :)
17:37 wizzyrea      we don't really do support for liblime, unfortunately
17:37 CGI956        see what it looks like
17:37 CGI956        can i send you guys the url to my opac?
17:36 CGI956        i wish they would answer my emails, they take a million years
17:36 CGI956        oh ok
17:36 jwagner       I don't speak to contracts :-) but it should just be a simple matter of a DNS alias.
17:35 CGI956        but i wonder if i have to pay for that extra or what
17:35 CGI956        yes, indeed
17:35 jwagner       As in sekjal's examples, that would be how you want the URL to be, perhaps similar to your other web sites.
17:34 jwagner       CGI956, I'm still getting familiar with Liblime's procedures (I manage implementations for PTFS), but in general we might have an internal server name for the system, and a name that you want it known by to the world.
17:34 CGI956        it seems that i would have to tell koha that
17:33 sekjal        for example, catalog.yourlibrary.org and staff.yourlibrary.org
17:33 sekjal        I wouldn't want to speak to LibLime's intent with that question, but I'd think it would mean what URLs do you want for your OPAC and for your staff client
17:32 CGI956        (btw, if anyone from liblime's here, please make sure you answer your emails please)
17:31 CGI956        one thing, how do i "determine your production db's staff client and OPAC urls"?
17:30 CGI956        that liblime emailed me
17:30 CGI956        i've gone through the implementation checklist
17:30 sekjal        hopefully we can clarify some stuff for you
17:29 CGI956        i do need help, i'm rather confused about some things
17:29 CGI956        thank you
17:29 sekjal        welcome
17:28 CGI956        total
17:28 CGI956        i'm a newbie
17:28 CGI956        hi, sekjal
17:28 sekjal        hi, CGI956
17:28 CGI956        greetings
17:27 CGI956        anyone here?
17:15 kf            if you want to use a separate file you need to store it somewhere where you can access and change it, on your koha server or perhaps somewhere else on the web
17:14 kf            use OPACUserCSS to copy and paste your css directly into the syspref
17:14 kf            CGI546: you cant add a file through administration, just point to it
16:50 CGI546        I want to modify CSS file that I already added. But I don't know how to access that file ..
16:48 CGI546        Basically I am interesting in modifying .CSS file that I have added through Administration section.
16:47 CGI546        Can Anyone please tell me how to change in OPAC layout? Like changing the color scheme
16:38 jfbucas       slef: I've managed to export the catalog to some coma separated big text file
16:38 nengard       oh i know - but i didn't have to do the search afterall - I found the answer elsewhere - that's all I meant :)
16:37 slef          nengard: seriously, connecting to a remote server and doing a search from there might be easier.
16:36 jfbucas       :-)
16:35 slef          jfbucas: sounds like a good aim.
16:35 nengard       thanks for the tip - will do if i get desperate enough - but i have plenty of other work I can do instead
16:34 slef          nengard: set up a VPN and route UDP over it? ;-)
16:33 jfbucas       I'd just like to be able to get rid of the old Windows server
16:33 nengard       can't do z39.50 searches from here
16:33 nengard       found something that appears to be blocked
16:33 slef          it doesn't follow open standards
16:33 slef          Well, we (software.coop) speak about free software more than plain open source, but I know what you mean.
16:32 jfbucas       ok
16:31 slef          MARC21 = MAchine Readable Cataloguing for the 21st century
16:31 slef          jfbucas: simple test is to export a MARC record and look for copy data in the usual places (tags 852 and 952 IIRC)
16:30 jfbucas       the main problem I have with heritage is that it is not compatible with OpenSource systems
16:30 jfbucas       but I guess that's a standard to describe what can be described for each item of the catalog
16:29 jfbucas       I'm not exactly familiar with MARC or MARC 21
16:28 slef          "elements of Heritage cataloguing not present in MARC, such as adding administration dates and linking to associated documents" erm, pretty sure MARC can have those, but I guess it depends exactly what they mean by MARC.
16:28 jfbucas       hum, that's what I'm afraid of
16:27 jfbucas       we bought it yes
16:27 slef          jfbucas: even then, it doesn't say if it exports copy information, so you might still have to do a stocktake.
16:26 slef          jfbucas: so unless you've bought that, I guess you're locked in. :-(
16:25 slef          jfbucas: Aha http://www.isoxford.com/heritage/marc
16:25 slef          jfbucas: you could try searching the lists and so on, but I think I've heard it doesn't speak standards.
16:25 jfbucas       ok, thanks anyway
16:24 slef          jfbucas: yep, not in my notes, so I guess I've no experience yet.
16:24 jfbucas       http://www.isoxford.com/
16:23 jfbucas       isoxford.com
16:19 slef          I thought that was Oxford something or other but that's not on my notes.
16:19 slef          jfbucas: what's the manufacturer's name?
16:18 jfbucas       thanks slef
16:11 * slef        looks at his notes
16:11 slef          jfbucas: I might.
16:00 jfbucas       Does anybody have any experience or documentation regarding the migration from Heritage to Koha?
15:57 jfbucas       Hi
15:52 slef          hi chris_n
15:52 slef          juan-xercode: it's going badly.
15:51 chris_n       heya slef
15:47 juan-xercode  :)
15:47 juan-xercode  i'm testing a new irc
15:46 slef          juan-xercode: yoyo?
15:43 slef          hdl_laptop: can you tell me what MT2116 was about?  In particular, what made it worth changing C4::Record's interface and adding more dependencies during 3.0.x series?
15:43 slef          back
15:35 nengard       woo hoo - just heard the nurse say that the woman in the room with me (who likes to wake up at 2am and talk to herself and everyone around her - even if we're sleeping) is getting moved today! :) maybe a little better chance of sleep tonight
15:28 nengard       aww shucks :) thanks chris_n
15:27 * chris_n     hopes nengard gets well soon :)
15:16 * kf          sighs
15:16 kf            2389 words need attention
15:00 nengard       wizzyrea i saw you were going to do that - but didn't try it :) awesome!
15:00 munin`        kf: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Germany is 20.7�C (3:58 PM CET on March 25, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 32%. Dew Point: 3.0�C. Pressure: 29.76 in 1007.7 hPa (Steady).
15:00 kf            @wunder konstanz
14:58 wizzyrea      oh, and I don't know if you saw the part about how if you type IRC in a post it will automatically link to the meebo widget
14:58 wizzyrea      I was working on the permissions part of it but got pulled off to do something else
14:57 wizzyrea      for now you have to have pretty high level access to edit the faq's
14:57 wizzyrea      the faq's?
14:57 slef          brb
14:57 slef          hdl_laptop: can you tell me what MT2116 was about?
14:56 hdl_laptop    our bugtracker.
14:56 nengard       can anyone edit those? or just the creator? I ask cause some may be out of date
14:56 hdl_laptop    slef yes MT is Mantis.
14:56 nengard       i'll do more
14:56 nengard       did some of them  -but good idea
14:55 wizzyrea      um... we could work on transferring faq questions
14:55 nengard       wizzyrea any little website tweaks that need doing? anything at all ??? :)
14:54 slef          or reading their scrollback ;-)
14:54 slef          right... I'll hang around in hope of a biblibre.commer appearing
14:53 nengard       cause i had an issue before with documenting a patch
14:53 nengard       but i do think that's what those numbers are - internal bug numbers
14:52 nengard       sorry
14:52 nengard       slef i can't find the link to the biblibre bugs site
14:52 nengard       most of my updates have been via facebook and twitter
14:51 slef          I've not had time to read blogs for a couple of weeks. Not looking forward to opening my feedreader.
14:50 wizzyrea      lol
14:49 nengard       trust me i have left plenty out :) hehe
14:49 wizzyrea      lol yea
14:49 slef          commit 523735ef6b97944dcbbb882704702028c7373c0e makes little sense to me
14:49 nengard       the blogger?? :)
14:49 wizzyrea      with the constant running blog of everything
14:49 wizzyrea      nengard You're like that chick from house a couple of weeks ago
14:49 nengard       i forget how to find those details though .... brb
14:48 nengard       the MT ones
14:48 nengard       i think those are biblibre bug numbers
14:48 * wizzyrea    has no clue
14:48 slef          anyone
14:48 slef          does anyonw know what does MT2116 mean on a commit log?
14:48 nengard       now i'm going to try and poke at the manual some - and maybe some bugs cause i'm soo sooo bored
14:48 wizzyrea      I bet you're tired of this :/
14:48 nengard       thanks - me too!!
14:48 slef          nengard: hope you get well soon
14:47 Sharon        my kind of light sleeper.
14:47 nengard       wizzyrea - oooooo - i'll look for that
14:47 nengard       in the hotels i take the towels and stick them in all the crevices that have light :)
14:47 wizzyrea      and white noise
14:47 wizzyrea      ipod touch? there's an app called naturescape that has sweet nature sounds
14:47 nengard       but those eye patch things bug me
14:47 Sharon        I have to have all of that just to sleep in a hotel
14:47 nengard       i did put my ipod on eventually
14:47 Sharon        need ear plugs, eye patch thingy and some hard core drugs
14:47 nengard       and the lack of beeping!!
14:46 nengard       i want my bed and my room darkening shades
14:46 wizzyrea      :( indeed
14:46 nengard       :(
14:46 nengard       they want to keep me another night
14:46 wizzyrea      poor thing
14:46 nengard       yes
14:46 nengard       and it took another 2 hours to fall asleep with all the beeping and lights
14:46 wizzyrea      are you in the hospital right now?
14:46 Sharon        lordy!
14:46 nengard       so i could sleep
14:46 nengard       and finally at 2am they took her away
14:46 nengard       so first she tried to talk to me and then to the nurse
14:46 Sharon        they tried to give my brother benedryl as a sleep aid and it didn't work, so he didn't sleep and it took longer to get better
14:46 nengard       at 12am they came in to give me an IV - and then right after that the woman in the bed next to me decided it was time to wake up and talk
14:45 nengard       so no
14:45 nengard       well 2 hours
14:45 nengard       no
14:45 Sharon        did you get any sleep at that 'place of healing' nengard?
14:45 nengard       hiya
14:45 jdavidb       hi, nengard.
14:45 nengard       woo hoo - irc not blocked ;)
14:38 slef          hdl_laptop: what does MT2116 mean on a commit log?
14:38 slef          Hi all.
14:16 chris_n       yo-yo internet today brendan?
13:08 collum        just did a google search. :)
13:07 jwagner       collum, thanks.  I'm going to have to get familiar with all that.
13:07 collum        llek documentation
13:06 collum        It's mentioned in documentation under itembarcodelength - http://ow.ly/1qJ4s
13:01 jwagner       owen, not sure
13:01 kf            slip printer? whats the right word?
13:01 kf            because some slip printers dont produce readable barcodes
13:01 chris_n       kf: that might be true
13:00 kf            I was told that the printers can be a problem
13:00 chris_n       I think both of the barcode modules support nearly all forms of barcode
13:00 owen          jwagner: Is that a LEK thing?
13:00 chris_n       jwagner: it would probably be trivial to add if it does not
12:59 jwagner       Me either.
12:59 kf            ?
12:59 kf            jwagner: I never saw a barcode on a hold slip...
12:59 chris_n       I'm not sure what that section in particular supports
12:59 chris_n       there is support for a number of barcode types in various sections of Koha
12:58 jwagner       chris_n, nothing like a definitive answer :-)
12:58 chris_n       jwagner: maybe
12:58 * chris_n     is not an initiate in these things, however
12:58 jwagner       Question for folks, true or false? "Koha only supports Code 39 barcode symbology for printing scannable barcodes on hold-transfer slips"
12:58 chris_n       but if I view the page source with js on, I do not see the entire table in the source
12:57 kf            owen: looks really nice
12:56 owen          I you disable javascript and view this page you'll see a giant table: http://tablesorter.com/docs/example-pager.html
12:55 chris_n       if it uses some sort of ajax type call back to grab each "page" it would not be too heavy
12:55 chris_n       I'm not sure, I just saw the add-on and had the thought
12:54 owen          Except don't you have to load the contents of all "pages" before you can display it that way?
12:53 chris_n       I just noticed that they have a table pagination addon for that script which might be a nicer way of handling pagination for long tables
12:53 owen          This one: http://tablesorter.com/docs/
12:52 owen          Hi chris_n, yes we do
12:50 chris_n       good morning as well :)
12:49 chris_n       owen: do we use jquery.tablesorter.js for our table sorting?
12:48 kf            morning owen and jwagner
12:45 jwagner       morning, owen
12:44 owen          Hi #koha
11:33 munin`        kf: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Germany is 18.9�C (12:28 PM CET on March 25, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 39%. Dew Point: 5.0�C. Pressure: 29.79 in 1008.7 hPa (Steady).
11:33 kf            @wunder konstanz
11:14 chris         hi kf
11:12 kf            hi chris
11:08 chris         juan-xercode: there are too many hardcoded paths in the templates for that to work easily
11:00 munin`        kf: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Germany is 18.5�C (11:58 AM CET on March 25, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 39%. Dew Point: 4.0�C. Pressure: 29.80 in 1009.0 hPa (Falling).
11:00 kf            @wunder konstanz
10:52 juan-xercode  anybody try it??
10:52 juan-xercode  i always get it working under a subdomain like koha1.domain.com
10:52 juan-xercode  but, no success
10:52 juan-xercode  yesterday i've been trying to set koha under a www.domain.com/koha1
10:51 juan-xercode  hi kf
10:51 kf            h juan-xercode :)
10:50 juan-xercode  hi henri
10:50 hdl_laptop    hi juan-xercode
10:47 chris_n       g'morning
10:39 juan-xercode  hi
10:37 kf            hi hdl_laptop
10:37 hdl_laptop    hi kf
10:34 kf            hi #koha
09:24 mason         chris: all good....
09:23 mason         chris:
08:37 mason         chris:  u about re: hlt reboot?
07:06 magnus        hello Ropuch
07:05 Ropuch        Hello magnus [;
07:04 magnus        good morning #koha!
06:30 Ropuch        Morning #koha
04:19 brendan       heya Amit_G
04:15 Amit_G        hi brendan