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Ropuch |
I can still install 3.05 without a problem following the same routine |
| 00:00 |
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Ropuch |
And the stem is updated |
| 00:00 |
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Ropuch |
s/stem/system |
| 00:00 |
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chris |
weird |
| 00:00 |
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Ropuch |
Isn't it? |
| 00:01 |
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Ropuch |
But the problem occur when trying to install on fresh system |
| 00:02 |
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chris |
its gotta be something to do with the dbd mismatch |
| 00:02 |
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chris |
maybe remove mysql-server etc |
| 00:02 |
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chris |
install libdbd-mysql-perl first, then the server after? |
| 00:04 |
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Ropuch |
Doing it right now :) |
| 00:10 |
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Ropuch |
Whoa |
| 00:11 |
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Ropuch |
I worked |
| 00:12 |
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Ropuch |
I've apt-get remove --purge mysql-server-5.1 libhtml-template-perl mysql-client-5.1 mysql-server-core-5.1 libdbd-mysql-perl |
| 00:12 |
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chris |
interesting |
| 00:13 |
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Ropuch |
Then apt-get install libdbd-mysql=perl |
| 00:15 |
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Ropuch |
And then apt-get install mysql-server |
| 00:15 |
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Ropuch |
(I've removed /etc/mysql after purging it, don't kniow if it matters) |
| 00:16 |
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Ropuch |
Ok, I should be sleeping for at least an hour |
| 00:16 |
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Ropuch |
Good night and see you in the morning, I'll try to reproduce the error at work |
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Genji |
gotta smile at this. When i told my boss about upgrading from 3.0rc1 to 3.0.x head: "i don't think we will get a lot from upgrading. the version we upgrading to is not a major change from what we already have." |
| 01:54 |
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chris |
heh, only about 500 bugfixes is all |
| 01:54 |
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Genji |
ya.. i said.. the major changes are hidden, because they are bugfixes. not feature upgrades. we won't 'gain' new features, but fix broken thngs... one of them might be the 700 field resaving problem. |
| 01:59 |
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Genji |
which is the correct thing to say yes/ |
| 01:59 |
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Genji |
? |
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chris |
yup |
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* ebegin |
just spent long hours in order to customized the opac... the experience is always painful... |
| 03:54 |
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ebegin |
I wish I had time to rewrite part of the prog template... |
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Amit_G |
heya ebegin |
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ebegin |
Hey amit! How are you? |
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Nouman |
hi |
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Ropuch |
Morning #koha |
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paulab |
Hi! |
| 08:17 |
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paulab |
I have a question about Koha fines. I set Koha to make patrons to pay a fee each month, by setting an enrollment period of a month. If one month the patron doesn't pay the fee they can't loan any more. |
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paulab |
The problem is, I need to set up koha to keep growing the debt if the months go on and the patron still doesn't pay the monthly payment |
| 08:20 |
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paulab |
Exist a way to doing this, or the only way is to create a script on cron, running monthly to increase patrons debt |
| 08:20 |
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paulab |
? |
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magnus |
hello, #koha |
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hdl_laptop |
hi magnus |
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magnus |
hi hdl_laptop |
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psychokiller |
it's a miracle |
| 10:25 |
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psychokiller |
i've installed Koha !!! |
| 10:26 |
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psychokiller |
Ropuch |
| 10:26 |
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psychokiller |
you've written that you don't know if removing /etc/mysql after purging it |
| 10:26 |
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psychokiller |
matters or not |
| 10:27 |
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psychokiller |
well you have to remove it yes |
| 10:27 |
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psychokiller |
remove the mysql server AND TRASH the directory TOO and THEN re install libdbd-mysql-perl and then mysql server |
| 10:27 |
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psychokiller |
it worked for me |
| 10:31 |
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Ropuch |
I know |
| 10:31 |
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Ropuch |
:) |
| 10:31 |
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Ropuch |
I just want to be sure that installing libdb-mysql-perl before installing mysql-server solves the problem |
| 10:32 |
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psychokiller |
NO |
| 10:32 |
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psychokiller |
the problem is the FOLDER |
| 10:33 |
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psychokiller |
if you dont trash the folder |
| 10:33 |
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psychokiller |
it doesnt work |
| 10:33 |
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psychokiller |
i did it by mistake the other way round |
| 10:33 |
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psychokiller |
i first installed the server |
| 10:33 |
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psychokiller |
then libdb |
| 10:33 |
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psychokiller |
without trashing the folder |
| 10:33 |
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psychokiller |
no good |
| 10:33 |
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psychokiller |
i did it again in the right order didnt happen either |
| 10:33 |
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psychokiller |
but when i trashed the folder it works |
| 10:34 |
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psychokiller |
so this is in Pel language ? |
| 10:34 |
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psychokiller |
oh shit |
| 10:34 |
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psychokiller |
what similarities are there between perl and php ? |
| 10:36 |
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Ropuch |
I'm not a programmer so I can't tell you |
| 10:36 |
|
Ropuch |
http://www.thesitewizard.com/a[…]ve/phpvscgi.shtml |
| 10:37 |
|
Ropuch |
http://www.netconcepts.com/php-versus-perl/ |
| 10:39 |
|
chris |
http://tinyurl.com/yjxzprp |
| 10:40 |
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Ropuch |
Hi chris |
| 10:40 |
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Ropuch |
;> |
| 10:41 |
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chris |
heya Ropuch :) |
| 10:42 |
|
Ropuch |
I wonder if i should fill an ubuntu bug |
| 10:42 |
|
Ropuch |
It looks like some packaging/dependency handling problem |
| 10:44 |
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psychokiller |
the Ubuntu Lobby will be attacking you then |
| 10:44 |
|
psychokiller |
they are going to kidnap you in the middle of the night |
| 10:44 |
|
psychokiller |
and demand ransom from the koha community |
| 10:46 |
|
Ropuch |
Maybe you should start to write novels instead of struggling with Koha? ;> |
| 10:46 |
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chris |
Ropuch: might be worth searching see if anyone else has reported, cos its nothing to do with koha |
| 10:46 |
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chris |
it would be breaking all sorts of things |
| 10:48 |
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psychokiller |
what's the admin page for koha ? |
| 10:48 |
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psychokiller |
hmm cant find it |
| 10:49 |
|
Ropuch |
chris: I'm finishing new Koha install one, with libdbd-mysql-perl installed first, not as a part of mysql-server dependency |
| 10:50 |
|
Ropuch |
http://127.0.1.1:8080 |
| 10:50 |
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psychokiller |
aha |
| 10:50 |
|
psychokiller |
i forgot the port |
| 10:50 |
|
psychokiller |
and i got the user interface |
| 10:50 |
|
psychokiller |
instead of the admin interface |
| 10:51 |
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chris |
Ropuch: good idea |
| 10:51 |
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psychokiller |
Ropuch I once tried to file a Joomla Bug |
| 10:51 |
|
psychokiller |
and I got hate-mails |
| 10:51 |
|
psychokiller |
they started phoning in Midnight |
| 10:51 |
|
psychokiller |
saying YOU RE GOING TO DIE |
| 10:51 |
|
psychokiller |
and then hung up |
| 10:51 |
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Ropuch |
psychokiller: what can I say: maybe you've done it wrong? ;> |
| 10:52 |
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psychokiller |
oh im kidding but what im trying to say is that the Ubuntu Guys are going to DENY it |
| 10:52 |
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psychokiller |
they deny knowledge |
| 10:52 |
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psychokiller |
just like in the X - Files |
| 10:53 |
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chris |
that has not been my experience |
| 10:53 |
|
paul_p |
everybody say hello to alex_a, the new Biblibrian ;-) |
| 10:53 |
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chris |
hi alex_a :) |
| 10:54 |
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psychokiller |
what a Biblibrian ? |
| 10:54 |
|
psychokiller |
a bisexual librarian that is ? |
| 10:55 |
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magnus |
hi alex_a |
| 10:56 |
|
Ropuch |
Hi alex_a [; |
| 10:56 |
|
psychokiller |
" Please log in with the username and password given to you by your systems administrator and located in your koha-conf.xml configuration file. " |
| 10:57 |
|
psychokiller |
<user>kohauser</user> |
| 10:57 |
|
psychokiller |
<password>zebrastripes</password> |
| 10:57 |
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psychokiller |
is that it ? |
| 10:57 |
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Ropuch |
kohaadmin/katikoan |
| 10:58 |
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psychokiller |
aha |
| 10:58 |
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psychokiller |
but thats not in the XML file ! |
| 10:59 |
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psychokiller |
is there something wrong i should know about > |
| 10:59 |
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psychokiller |
? |
| 10:59 |
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chris |
could you login with it? |
| 10:59 |
|
chris |
if so, then it is definitely in the file, near the bottom |
| 11:00 |
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psychokiller |
nope |
| 11:00 |
|
psychokiller |
thats not the passes my friend Ropuch |
| 11:00 |
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chris |
its whatever you typed in when it asked you for it when you were installing |
| 11:00 |
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psychokiller |
aha ! |
| 11:00 |
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psychokiller |
kohaadmin and katikoan |
| 11:01 |
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psychokiller |
there's a double a there |
| 11:01 |
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psychokiller |
ok ok |
| 11:02 |
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psychokiller |
Ropuch if you Complete your guide im going to translate it in Greek |
| 11:02 |
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psychokiller |
and setup a blog for my thesis |
| 11:02 |
|
psychokiller |
or something |
| 11:02 |
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Ropuch |
Go for it |
| 11:03 |
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psychokiller |
it's not complete YET ! |
| 11:03 |
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psychokiller |
you have to make changes |
| 11:03 |
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Ropuch |
chris: it seems that installing libdbd-mysql-perl first doesn't fix it |
| 11:03 |
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psychokiller |
there's some cd missing and what about the last step ? |
| 11:03 |
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Ropuch |
What step? |
| 11:04 |
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psychokiller |
the one you removed libdbd and server |
| 11:04 |
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psychokiller |
and then the folder etc |
| 11:04 |
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psychokiller |
etc |
| 11:04 |
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psychokiller |
and another thing |
| 11:04 |
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psychokiller |
http://127.0.1.1:8080/cgi-bin/[…]install.pl?step=1 |
| 11:04 |
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psychokiller |
after this |
| 11:04 |
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psychokiller |
i see a nice white screen |
| 11:05 |
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psychokiller |
is that it ? |
| 11:05 |
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psychokiller |
no step=2 in the way ? |
| 11:06 |
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chris |
right, sleep time for me |
| 11:06 |
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magnus |
good night chris |
| 11:07 |
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psychokiller |
right ? |
| 11:07 |
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psychokiller |
only one step ? |
| 11:07 |
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Ropuch |
psychokiller: what langiage have you selected? |
| 11:07 |
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psychokiller |
greek |
| 11:07 |
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psychokiller |
i better go for english ? |
| 11:07 |
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Ropuch |
At least try it |
| 11:07 |
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Ropuch |
Maybe it's greek translaton issue |
| 11:09 |
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psychokiller |
well somebody has to do something with the greek translation |
| 11:09 |
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psychokiller |
maybe that someone will be me in the future if you help me |
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| 11:10 |
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psychokiller |
Select your MARC flavour Unimarc |
| 11:10 |
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psychokiller |
Marc21 |
| 11:10 |
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psychokiller |
what should i install |
| 11:10 |
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psychokiller |
Unimarc or Marc21 ? |
| 11:11 |
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| 11:13 |
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Ropuch |
psychokiller: it's your call |
| 11:14 |
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Ropuch |
I'm using Marc21 as it's more popular in Poland |
| 11:14 |
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psychokiller |
have to check out what they use in Greece |
| 11:17 |
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Ropuch |
Oh man |
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| 11:17 |
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Ropuch |
psychokiller: i must apalogize to you |
| 11:17 |
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Ropuch |
Actually all this DBD error is my fault |
| 11:18 |
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Ropuch |
I/wordpress must have messed up with quotes |
| 11:18 |
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Ropuch |
Remeber sudo echo "grant all on koha.* to 'kohaadmin'@'localhost' identified by 'katikoan';" | mysql -uroot -p |
| 11:18 |
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Ropuch |
The quotes where escaped and we fixed that |
| 11:18 |
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Ropuch |
init-connect=\'SET NAMES utf8\' |
| 11:18 |
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Ropuch |
Here's the prblem |
| 11:19 |
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Ropuch |
init-connect='SET NAMES utf8' |
| 11:19 |
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Ropuch |
And all works just fine |
| 11:19 |
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Ropuch |
I don't know where those escapings came from |
| 11:20 |
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Ropuch |
You can call me at midnight and whisper death-threats for wasting your time ;/ |
| 11:21 |
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Ropuch |
But, what doesn't kill you makes you stronger, right? |
| 11:21 |
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psychokiller |
no |
| 11:21 |
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psychokiller |
who said that ? |
| 11:21 |
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psychokiller |
Nitzse ? |
| 11:22 |
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psychokiller |
have you added the cd commandds in your guide ? |
| 11:22 |
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psychokiller |
is it ok now ? |
| 11:24 |
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Ropuch |
I'm not sure where there is 'cd' missing? |
| 11:25 |
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Ropuch |
I fixed init-connect part, so it shuold be ok |
| 11:25 |
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psychokiller |
on the Makefile thing |
| 11:25 |
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psychokiller |
on perl |
| 11:26 |
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Ropuch |
tar -zxvf koha-3.00.05.tar.gz && cd koha-3.00.05 |
| 11:26 |
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Ropuch |
it's there |
| 11:26 |
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Ropuch |
But |
| 11:26 |
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Ropuch |
Hm |
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Ropuch |
I can split it in two |
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Ropuch |
done |
| 11:30 |
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Ropuch |
case closed |
| 11:35 |
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psychokiller |
it is ? |
| 11:35 |
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psychokiller |
should i make the blog? |
| 11:36 |
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psychokiller |
why libraries keep using MARC and not XML ? |
| 11:36 |
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psychokiller |
i think XML can do what MARC can |
| 11:36 |
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psychokiller |
but i guess there are millions books already MARCed |
| 11:36 |
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psychokiller |
so they'll have to XMLem from the start ? |
| 11:38 |
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Ropuch |
Yes (millions MARCed books), no ('xmling' from the start) |
| 11:38 |
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Ropuch |
MARC is a standard, so any serious ILS can handle MARC records |
| 11:39 |
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psychokiller |
but lets say Poland before 1989 |
| 11:39 |
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psychokiller |
they didnt use MARC did they ? |
| 11:39 |
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psychokiller |
that was an american system |
| 11:40 |
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psychokiller |
they must have something else |
| 11:40 |
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psychokiller |
Russia had MARC for its libraries ? |
| 11:40 |
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Ropuch |
What's your point? |
| 11:40 |
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Ropuch |
Before 1989 it was pre-autoamization era of polish libraries |
| 11:41 |
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Ropuch |
Our standard was paper catalogue card |
| 11:41 |
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psychokiller |
well it was pre -automatization pretty much everywhere |
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psychokiller |
but CCCP should have its own machine catalogue of books |
| 11:41 |
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Ropuch |
And - as some systems were adopted - we're started on using marc |
| 11:42 |
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Ropuch |
psychokiller: I don't know, I'm not an expert on MARC-adoption history in every country |
| 11:43 |
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psychokiller |
so a MARC record is printed on a book ? or is it only inside a computer ? |
| 11:43 |
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Ropuch |
Geez |
| 11:43 |
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psychokiller |
only the DEWEY record is printed in the book ? |
| 11:43 |
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Ropuch |
What you mean by DWEWY redcord? |
| 11:44 |
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Ropuch |
You mean CIP? |
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psychokiller |
DDC |
| 11:44 |
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psychokiller |
where you will find it in the shelves |
| 11:44 |
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psychokiller |
i know thats printed on the books , just wondering if the MARC record was printed too. |
| 11:44 |
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Ropuch |
I know what a DDC is, but I'm not sure what you mean by "DDC record" ;> |
| 11:45 |
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psychokiller |
lol |
| 11:45 |
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psychokiller |
the DDC number that is and letters |
| 11:45 |
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psychokiller |
thats printed here in greek libraries on the side of the book |
| 11:45 |
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Ropuch |
Call number |
| 11:45 |
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Ropuch |
Or Shelfmark |
| 11:46 |
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Ropuch |
And if you have books sorted by DDC/UDC |
| 11:47 |
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Ropuch |
They have *Dc symbol on spine |
| 11:47 |
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Ropuch |
psychokiller: here's marc record example |
| 11:47 |
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Ropuch |
http://photoswest.org/marc.htm |
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Ropuch |
I don't think you want to print it on the books |
| 11:48 |
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psychokiller |
print in on the cover |
| 11:50 |
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psychokiller |
ill think ill go with MARC21 |
| 11:51 |
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psychokiller |
i see some digitalisations projects have used it already |
| 11:51 |
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psychokiller |
here in greece |
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psychokiller |
hi collum |
| 11:55 |
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psychokiller |
kentucky fried chickens ? |
| 11:56 |
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collum |
Hi, psyhokiller. |
| 11:57 |
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psychokiller |
should i go with Zebra or not ? |
| 11:57 |
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psychokiller |
is Zebra's installation a pain in the ass ? |
| 11:59 |
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psychokiller |
noZebra that is |
| 12:00 |
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collum |
It's fairly straight forward. You just have to make sure you have the correct environment variables set and that it is run by your koha user. |
| 12:01 |
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psychokiller |
i will not set up zebra for the moment |
| 12:02 |
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psychokiller |
so the staff interface is http://127.0.1.1:8080/ |
| 12:02 |
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psychokiller |
? |
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collum |
Probably, 127.0.0.1:8080, or just http://localhost:8080 |
| 12:06 |
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psychokiller |
ok |
| 12:06 |
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psychokiller |
so is Koha the best LIS out there ? |
| 12:07 |
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psychokiller |
or are Proprietary ones still in the lead ? |
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hilongo |
hello everyone ... |
| 12:08 |
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psychokiller |
hello |
| 12:09 |
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hilongo |
nice nick... :) |
| 12:10 |
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psychokiller |
from argentina ? |
| 12:11 |
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hilongo |
yep |
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psychokiller |
Still Mrs Kirhner there ? |
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hilongo |
@wunder Mendoza, Argentina |
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munin |
hilongo: The current temperature in Mendoza Aerodrome, Argentina is 18.0�C (3:00 AM ART on March 15, 2010). Conditions: . Humidity: 41%. Dew Point: 8.0�C. Pressure: 29.85 in 1011 hPa (Rising). |
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hilongo |
ha ha ... yes ... She's still here |
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@wunder Athens, Greece |
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hilongo |
HOla tomás :) |
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hilongo |
seems that all argentinians decided to show up today :) |
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psychokiller |
maybe Diego Maradona will enter next |
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lol |
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lol |
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nahuel |
ar-gen-tina ! |
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hilongo |
ha ha ha ... Hmmm ... I keep inviting him ... so maybe ;) |
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psychokiller |
do you know Jorge Altamira ? |
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no, I don't |
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owen - quick question about javascript - I see in the opac-reserve.tmpl - a call for click "when specific copy function is clicked do x..." |
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$(".selectspecific").click(function() { |
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schuster |
Can I change that to an onload option so it is automatically selected? what would I call it? load? it doesn't follow my standard javascript so wasn't sure what to use. |
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owen |
schuster: Checking... |
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Good morning, all. Is anyone doing anything with electronic bookplates? One of my sites is asking. So far the possibilities seem to be an 856 link in the title record and/or the 952u link in the item record. |
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owen, see the "Purchased With" link under the call number at http://josiah.brown.edu/record=b3498108~S7 -- it's probably more common in academic/research libraries. |
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schuster: My first thought is that you'll need to duplicate the contents of $(".selectspecific").click(function() on document load, but you'd have to restrict it to the holds page only |
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schuster |
so this is actually calling an external javascript? Is that what you are telling me? |
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I don't have a complete answer on the solution schuster, but you'll have to try to accomplish it via opacuserjs...unless you can edit opac-reserve.tmpl |
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schuster |
I was looking for a quick fix to force users to make copy specific holds rather than first available as that would force local only holds. |
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schuster |
I can edit opac-reserve.tmpl - that's what I'm playing with... The beauty of self hosting ;) |
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owen |
That's much easier then. |
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schuster |
Document my changes well so that in the next upgrade I can either edit again or see about an enhancement. |
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Hmmm... except the $(".selectspecific").click(function() uses $(this) to pass a biblionumber... |
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Maybe try changing it to $(".selectspecific").each(function() |
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schuster |
That is all pretty criptic because later click - the button to place hold actually passes the biblionumber - there's a couple of click(function() on the page - that's why I was wondering if I could change that from a click to onload. but the terms are different than what I have learned so far. |
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schuster |
learned with javascript that is. |
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owen |
Just changing it to each() doesn't work... |
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I'll have to think on it some more later schuster. |
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jwagner: That's an interesting example. My library is trying a bookplate fundraiser right now, it would be neat to be able to link to them in the OPAC |
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Hi #koha :) |
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jwagner: What a wonderful idea. Public libraries, at least ours, mainly use bookplates for items that are purchased or donated as memorials. |
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collum |
It would be nice to link from the ILS. |
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jwagner |
Sorry, was away for a few minutes. The main purpose for the bookplate seems to be public stroking of donors :-) but I was just talking to some of our librarians here, picking their brains. How it's set up may depend on what else they want to get out of it -- reports for a particular donor by year, etc. |
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jwagner |
I've tried a test record, and either/or the 856 or the item uri field seem to work fine. |
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owen |
If all they needed was that link then the database of donor information could be kept separately from Koha |
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jwagner |
The item uri field seems to be indexed, but I can't figure out how to limit a search on it. Any ideas on that? I tried uri:searchstring but it didn't work. |
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jwagner: is that information the same as 952$e "Source of Acquisition"? |
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jwagner |
No, the 952 u, Uniform Resource Identifier |
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chris_n, I suppose it could also be in the 952e. |
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jwagner: we use 952e to note donor sort of info |
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But that doesn't hot-link to another site, like an electronic bookplate, correct? |
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magnus |
hm is there any way to make electronic journals appear in the results when a search is limited to one specific branch? |
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magnus, I'm not sure how Koha might do it. In Unicorn, I did some involved setup that worked. First we created a separate branch for eresources and added item records for all of them with that branch. Then we defined search groups for the OPAC where instead of using the individual branches, the group was defined as branch + elibrary branch. That way limiting to the search group (transparent to user) searched both automatically. |
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jwagner |
I know there's a library group function in Koha, but I've never tried doing anything with it. |
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magnus |
thanks jwagner, i see what you are getting at, and it sounds like a solution that might work. i think there has been some problems with the library group function in koha not actually doing anything, though? |
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jwagner |
No clue on that one. I'd like to see it work, though -- this was a tremendously useful function in Unicorn and could be for Koha too. If an eresource is available to all users, you want to make it easy to find. |
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I've worked in libraries where an eresource was only available to a particular branch (separate subscriptions). In that case, the item record belonged to the branch, not the elibrary branch. |
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magnus |
makes sense! |
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hi |
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brendan: The current temperature in Northwest Goleta, Goleta, California is 6.8�C (7:14 AM PDT on March 15, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 71%. Dew Point: 2.0�C. Windchill: 7.0�C. Pressure: 30.11 in 1019.5 hPa (Rising). |
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@weather 93117 |
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oceb: The current temperature in Northwest Goleta, Goleta, California is 6.8�C (7:14 AM PDT on March 15, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 71%. Dew Point: 2.0�C. Windchill: 7.0�C. Pressure: 30.11 in 1019.5 hPa (Rising). |
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oceb |
any latinoamerican people here? |
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There were a bunch earlier. Dunno if they're still online. |
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oceb |
hi jwagner where are you from? |
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jwagner |
Maryland |
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oceb |
Mmm Im from Lima,Perú. Where i can found more info about kohacon2010? |
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jwagner |
@quote random |
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jwagner: Quote #60: "<owen> My 9-month-old may not be walking yet, but she's got great bib control." (added by gmcharlt at 12:31 PM, February 19, 2010) |
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moodaepo |
Ropuch++ # for helping psychos, again. |
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Ropuch |
Thanks |
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jwagner |
moodaepo, you know that COULD be interpreted in multiple ways..... |
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Ropuch |
He was using my guide, so feel little obligated |
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jwagner |
But I agree with how you probably meant it :-) |
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Ropuch |
Besides his problems were kinda my fault ;> |
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moodaepo |
jwagner: Er haven't had my caffeine yet so I claim what ever is the nicest meaning one can derive out of that : ) |
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Ropuch |
...and my patience leveled up to whole new dimension |
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moodaepo, I've had two cups of tea, but caffeine doesn't help :-( It's a Monday morning, what can I say??? |
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moodaepo |
Ropuch: It's hard to help someone with some many problems and even though you had a typo it wasn't your job to completely spoon feed : ) |
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moodaepo |
s/some many/ so many/ |
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Ropuch |
moodaepo: I know, but I like challenges ;> |
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thinks up ways to send new challenges in Ropuch's direction |
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Ropuch |
And I was able to seek & destroy my typo |
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Ropuch |
jwagner: ;-) |
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schuster |
jwagner and magnus - I was able to use the multi-branch opac with a modification to the location to get it to search 2 locations at the same time similar to what Jane did with Unicorn |
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schuster |
001.catalog.pisd.edu - will bring back searches for branch 001 and 901 locations - we have all our streaming and ebooks loaded into 901 location. |
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magnus |
schuster: sounds intriguing... |
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schuster, good work -- maybe write up how you did it for the wiki? |
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http://wiki.koha.org/doku.php?[…]c32_multiple_opac - criptic will have to see if I can give an example of the setup. |
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Sharon |
one of our libraries just reported that our morning holds queue report (or whatever you folks call it) didn't realize yesterday was dst. |
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jwagner |
Sharon, in what sense? Was the job cronned to run at 2:00 AM or something? |
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Sharon |
cron job runs at 7 am, but this morning it ran at 8 |
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Sharon |
one of our libraries pulled materials at 7:40, only to have the list regenerate at 8 |
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jwagner |
Sounds like the server clock didn't change times, then. |
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Sharon |
I'm told by another team member we had to send a reminder last year. |
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Sharon |
guess we shoulda done the same this year! You'd think the server could do that on its own... |
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jwagner |
When Congress changed the dates on DST, most OS sites sent out patches for the various types of servers. Maybe that didn't get applied to yours? |
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jwagner |
Our servers updated themselves OK. |
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jwagner |
I'll bet yours will reset itself automatically in a couple of weeks, on the old DST weekend. |
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jwagner |
But that's not a good answer. |
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collum |
The time zone package for debian is tzdata. It probably needs to be updated. |
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collum |
But that's not a good answer either. |
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slef |
I don't see why the US doesn't fall in line with Europe on the DST change. We've coordinated nearly 30 countries, but the US can't coordinate one? |
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collum |
slef: Not sure why either. To throw another wrench into the works. It's a state by state decision. |
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Sharon |
maybe. |
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Sharon |
I'm sending a request - we'll see if it's fixed. |
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Sharon |
in one state, it was a county-by-county decision! |
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jwagner |
The state I grew up in didn't observe DST at all. Only practical difference was that for half the year, the TV programs were an hour later than the other half.... |
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slef |
Can someone remind me how to use gitweb? I'm trying to check if http://git.koha.org/cgi-bin/gi[…]a6a86d1188df3d9d8 is in current 3.0.x addressing Bug 2547 |
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munin |
Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…]w_bug.cgi?id=2547 normal, P3, ---, jmf liblime.com, NEW, $ sign in boraccount / fines / account tab |
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schuster |
So are we still using wiki.koha.org for now? I have an enhancement/ I want some input on... |
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schuster |
RFC type stuff. |
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jwagner |
Don't see why not. |
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jwagner |
Have you done a bugzilla on it? |
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schuster |
well what do you know... |
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schuster |
bug 3340 |
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munin |
Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3340 enhancement, P5, ---, jmfliblime.com, NEW, Enhancement for borrower loading command line |
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schuster |
Anyone care to comment on this? I have a programmer who has set it up and we are testing it this week. For the default values he has created a seperate file so in case you wanted to set default values you could or just leave the file blank |
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schuster |
It also puts the output to a file so you can see the results later for errors etc... Need to test that more to see what types of errors are thrown. Currently it is loading files from what I can tell exactly as if I do it through the web interface. |
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@quote random |
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jwagner: Quote #34: "<chris> oh except that time .. when katipo decided to write an ils just for fun, then forced HLT to use it" (added by gmcharlt at 02:23 PM, September 16, 2009) |
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bbl |
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Ropuch |
Huh |
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jwagner |
? |
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Ropuch |
Is it possible to set up two libraries with different setting on one koha install? |
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Ropuch |
One with simple aquisition, seconf with normal, budget-based |
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jwagner |
Two different instances? Or running off the same library/MySQL database? |
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Ropuch |
One instance |
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jwagner |
I don't know, then. Two different instances is possible. |
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Ropuch |
So maybe I'll just set up onother koha |
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Ropuch |
It would be safer, as it's going to be used by non-librarian ;> |
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cait |
hi all |
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jwagner |
hi cait |
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Ropuch |
Hi cait |
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cait |
hi jwagner and ropich |
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SJeffery |
Hi jwagner, I have been in touch with him. |
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SJeffery |
Just had a massive new project come up, so all this stuff is on hold for a few weeks. |
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oceb |
cri cri cri... |
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chris |
morning |
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oceb |
morning chris |
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jwagner |
morning, chris |
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gmcharlt |
hi chris |
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Ropuch |
hI gmcharlt, chris |
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chris |
gmcharlt: i was switching on syndetics for hlt, found some bugs (some variables not being passed to the template) |
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chris |
ill send a patch later today |
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gmcharlt |
cool |
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chris |
http://opac.koha.catalystdemo.[…]iblionumber=63369 |
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chris |
syndetics and librarything |
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jwagner |
chris, see my patch this week for Bug 4314 if you're going to be doing anything with the Syndetics and LibraryThing links. Would hate to bump heads.... |
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Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4314 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, jwagnerptfs.com, ASSIGNED, Flag for SSL Enabled to fix 3rd Party Enhanced Content in OPAC |
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chris |
nope yours are all template side |
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chris |
mine is opac-detail.pl |
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jwagner |
Oh, good. I was having visions of massive merge conflicts.... |
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jwagner |
On that note, see you all tomorrow! |
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chris |
the problem was SyndeticsEnabled was never being set |
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chris |
so the template never did anything anyway :) |
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jwagner |
Well, that's not helpful of it :-) |
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chris |
gmcharlt: did you see the mail from larsw ? any objection to him fixing up licensing statements? |
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gmcharlt |
nope |
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chris |
cool |
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gmcharlt |
no objection, that is, although not in one big batch - one per directory, I think |
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chris |
sounds good to me |
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larsw |
one per directory? hmm... ok, I can do that |
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gmcharlt |
hi larsw |
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larsw |
greetings |
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http://www.libraryjournal.com/[…]e/2140493436.html |
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gmcharlt |
cool! |
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yes way cool thanks for sharing Crhis. |
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schuster |
chris |
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si is now known as rachel |
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* jwagner |
clears throat |
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jwagner |
http://www.ptfs.com/company/pr[…]e.aspx?pressId=84 |
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* jwagner |
ducks for cover :-) |
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cait |
oh |
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richard |
wow |
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oceb |
oh |
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chris |
oh, i thought that got called off |
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chris |
ouch |
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jwagner |
ouch? That's MY line!!! |
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chris |
"PTFS pledges to enhance and maintain the www.koha.org site as the focal point for the world’ s Koha activities– the place to find the latest information on Koha support, documentation, news, and downloads. " |
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chris |
not a single mention of working with the community at all |
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chris |
*sigh* |
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jwagner |
I wouldn't read too much into that right now, chris. I'm not authorized to speak on any issues, but a lot of things are still under discussion. |
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yeah, it is a public statement tho, starting off on the wrong foot and all |
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Lee |
Just got an email from Jane Wagner that PTFS closed the deal with LibLime |
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gmcharlt |
hi Lee |
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Lee |
hey Galen did you know? |
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gmcharlt |
and jwagner said as much in channel, and I believe she is hiding ... right there! ;0 |
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jwagner |
Eeeep! You spotted me!!! |
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gmcharlt |
no sooner than you did |
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Lee |
lol |
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jwagner |
The announcement just came out a few minutes ago. |
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Lee |
Well that is a HUGE surprise for me!!! |
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jwagner |
But I guess that answers the question of whether the email made it to the listserv -- I haven't seen it yet. |
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Lee |
ummm yup loud and clear |
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Lee |
so is it effective immediately? |
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Lee |
is Josh staying on as an consultant? |
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jwagner |
Right now I don't know anything beyond what is in the press release. It didn't go final until I left for the day, so I'm logged in from home. I'm sure we'll all get briefed tomorrow. |
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Lee |
ah |
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jwagner |
Everyone needs to be aware that this will NOT be a speedy process. It's going to take time to integrate all the systems and get up to speed. |
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jwagner |
And it will also take time to get answers to all the outstanding questions on community issues. |
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Lee |
will PTFS come to KohaCon? and what about the Koha.org and trademark... |
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Lee |
oops |
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Lee |
typing before reading |
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Lee |
I will be patient...I am just stunned |
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Lee |
sorry for the deluge of Qs |
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jwagner |
Believe me, we are aware of all the questions. I just don't have any answers yet. |
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Lee |
Well I think John Y should send you NZ... |
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Lee |
hey Nicole how ya feeling? |
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jwagner |
I'd love to go to NZ. So would several others on our staff. This could get ugly.... |
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nengard |
like crap - but was told discussion was going on here - so i thought i'd pop in |
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Lee |
rock paper sissors |
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Lee |
yeah big doings at PTFS |
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jwagner |
Things are going to be interesting over the next few months, that's for sure. |
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Lee |
it can only get better IMHO |
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Lee |
I know the WALDO peeps are major players at LL but there are lots of us self hosted peeps too |
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jwagner |
And we'll have to get up to speed on every one of you. chris, how are those cloning and time travel scripts coming? |
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chris |
:) |
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chris |
still buggy |
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Lee |
it would be good to have you at KCon so we can get some face time with PTFS |
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nengard |
k - back to napping for me ... maybe i'll be up to talking (or typing) more tomorrow :( |
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Lee |
besides ...we like you...:D |
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Lee |
feel better |
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Lee |
So no one else is surprised - am I the last to know...Chris...:/ |
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jwagner |
be back in a few -- supper is calling my name. |
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chris |
eat well |
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chris |
Lee: not quite last :) |
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Lee |
nice... and i thought we were friends:P |
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jwagner |
back :-) |
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Lee |
I just got my reservations...arriving on the 18 of Oct leaving on the 8 of Nov. |
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Lee |
:D very happy |
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Lee |
Chris what day will I be arriving the 19 or the 20? |
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jwagner |
I'm going to call it a day. Talk to you all tomorrow! |
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chris |
@later tell Lee if you leave on the 18th will probably arrive on the 20th |
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chris: The operation succeeded. |
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