Time Nick Message 23:21 munin chris: The operation succeeded. 23:21 chris @later tell Lee if you leave on the 18th will probably arrive on the 20th 23:07 jwagner I'm going to call it a day. Talk to you all tomorrow! 22:38 Lee Chris what day will I be arriving the 19 or the 20? 22:37 Lee :D very happy 22:37 Lee I just got my reservations...arriving on the 18 of Oct leaving on the 8 of Nov. 22:07 jwagner back :-) 22:03 Lee nice... and i thought we were friends:P 22:00 chris Lee: not quite last :) 21:54 chris eat well 21:54 jwagner be back in a few -- supper is calling my name. 21:33 Lee So no one else is surprised - am I the last to know...Chris...:/ 21:32 Lee feel better 21:32 Lee besides ...we like you...:D 21:32 nengard k - back to napping for me ... maybe i'll be up to talking (or typing) more tomorrow :( 21:32 Lee it would be good to have you at KCon so we can get some face time with PTFS 21:31 chris still buggy 21:31 chris :) 21:31 jwagner And we'll have to get up to speed on every one of you. chris, how are those cloning and time travel scripts coming? 21:30 Lee I know the WALDO peeps are major players at LL but there are lots of us self hosted peeps too 21:29 Lee it can only get better IMHO 21:28 jwagner Things are going to be interesting over the next few months, that's for sure. 21:27 Lee yeah big doings at PTFS 21:27 Lee rock paper sissors 21:27 nengard like crap - but was told discussion was going on here - so i thought i'd pop in 21:26 jwagner I'd love to go to NZ. So would several others on our staff. This could get ugly.... 21:26 Lee hey Nicole how ya feeling? 21:26 Lee Well I think John Y should send you NZ... 21:25 jwagner Believe me, we are aware of all the questions. I just don't have any answers yet. 21:25 Lee sorry for the deluge of Qs 21:25 Lee I will be patient...I am just stunned 21:24 Lee typing before reading 21:24 Lee oops 21:24 Lee will PTFS come to KohaCon? and what about the Koha.org and trademark... 21:23 jwagner And it will also take time to get answers to all the outstanding questions on community issues. 21:23 jwagner Everyone needs to be aware that this will NOT be a speedy process. It's going to take time to integrate all the systems and get up to speed. 21:23 Lee ah 21:22 jwagner Right now I don't know anything beyond what is in the press release. It didn't go final until I left for the day, so I'm logged in from home. I'm sure we'll all get briefed tomorrow. 21:22 Lee is Josh staying on as an consultant? 21:22 Lee so is it effective immediately? 21:21 Lee ummm yup loud and clear 21:21 jwagner But I guess that answers the question of whether the email made it to the listserv -- I haven't seen it yet. 21:21 Lee Well that is a HUGE surprise for me!!! 21:21 jwagner The announcement just came out a few minutes ago. 21:20 Lee lol 21:20 gmcharlt no sooner than you did 21:20 jwagner Eeeep! You spotted me!!! 21:20 gmcharlt and jwagner said as much in channel, and I believe she is hiding ... right there! ;0 21:20 Lee hey Galen did you know? 21:20 gmcharlt hi Lee 21:20 Lee Just got an email from Jane Wagner that PTFS closed the deal with LibLime 21:13 chris yeah, it is a public statement tho, starting off on the wrong foot and all 21:13 jwagner I wouldn't read too much into that right now, chris. I'm not authorized to speak on any issues, but a lot of things are still under discussion. 21:12 chris *sigh* 21:12 chris not a single mention of working with the community at all 21:12 chris "PTFS pledges to enhance and maintain the www.koha.org site as the focal point for the world’ s Koha activities– the place to find the latest information on Koha support, documentation, news, and downloads. " 21:12 jwagner ouch? That's MY line!!! 21:11 chris ouch 21:10 chris oh, i thought that got called off 21:10 oceb oh 21:10 richard wow 21:09 cait oh 21:09 * jwagner ducks for cover :-) 21:09 jwagner http://www.ptfs.com/company/press_release.aspx?pressId=84 21:08 * jwagner clears throat 20:52 schuster chris 20:52 schuster yes way cool thanks for sharing Crhis. 20:10 gmcharlt cool! 20:05 chris http://www.libraryjournal.com/MS2010Inductee/2140493436.html 19:59 larsw greetings 19:59 gmcharlt hi larsw 19:59 larsw one per directory? hmm... ok, I can do that 19:58 chris sounds good to me 19:58 gmcharlt no objection, that is, although not in one big batch - one per directory, I think 19:58 chris cool 19:57 gmcharlt nope 19:57 chris gmcharlt: did you see the mail from larsw ? any objection to him fixing up licensing statements? 19:56 jwagner Well, that's not helpful of it :-) 19:56 chris so the template never did anything anyway :) 19:56 chris the problem was SyndeticsEnabled was never being set 19:56 jwagner On that note, see you all tomorrow! 19:56 jwagner Oh, good. I was having visions of massive merge conflicts.... 19:56 chris mine is opac-detail.pl 19:55 chris nope yours are all template side 19:55 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4314 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, jwagner@ptfs.com, ASSIGNED, Flag for SSL Enabled to fix 3rd Party Enhanced Content in OPAC 19:55 jwagner chris, see my patch this week for Bug 4314 if you're going to be doing anything with the Syndetics and LibraryThing links. Would hate to bump heads.... 19:51 chris syndetics and librarything 19:51 chris http://opac.koha.catalystdemo.net.nz/cgi-bin/koha/opac-detail.pl?biblionumber=63369 19:51 gmcharlt cool 19:51 chris ill send a patch later today 19:50 chris gmcharlt: i was switching on syndetics for hlt, found some bugs (some variables not being passed to the template) 19:50 Ropuch hI gmcharlt, chris 19:48 gmcharlt hi chris 19:46 jwagner morning, chris 19:46 oceb morning chris 19:45 chris morning 19:37 oceb cri cri cri... 18:56 SJeffery Just had a massive new project come up, so all this stuff is on hold for a few weeks. 18:56 SJeffery Hi jwagner, I have been in touch with him. 18:52 cait hi jwagner and ropich 18:51 Ropuch Hi cait 18:50 jwagner hi cait 18:49 cait hi all 18:05 Ropuch It would be safer, as it's going to be used by non-librarian ;> 18:05 Ropuch So maybe I'll just set up onother koha 18:04 jwagner I don't know, then. Two different instances is possible. 18:04 Ropuch One instance 18:04 jwagner Two different instances? Or running off the same library/MySQL database? 18:03 Ropuch One with simple aquisition, seconf with normal, budget-based 18:02 Ropuch Is it possible to set up two libraries with different setting on one koha install? 18:00 jwagner ? 18:00 Ropuch Huh 17:08 * jwagner is getting dizzy with all the comings and goings.... 16:34 slef bbl 16:28 munin jwagner: Quote #34: "<chris> oh except that time .. when katipo decided to write an ils just for fun, then forced HLT to use it" (added by gmcharlt at 02:23 PM, September 16, 2009) 16:28 jwagner @quote random 16:05 schuster It also puts the output to a file so you can see the results later for errors etc... Need to test that more to see what types of errors are thrown. Currently it is loading files from what I can tell exactly as if I do it through the web interface. 16:05 schuster Anyone care to comment on this? I have a programmer who has set it up and we are testing it this week. For the default values he has created a seperate file so in case you wanted to set default values you could or just leave the file blank 16:03 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3340 enhancement, P5, ---, jmf@liblime.com, NEW, Enhancement for borrower loading command line 16:03 schuster bug 3340 16:03 schuster well what do you know... 16:00 jwagner Have you done a bugzilla on it? 15:59 jwagner Don't see why not. 15:59 schuster RFC type stuff. 15:58 schuster So are we still using wiki.koha.org for now? I have an enhancement/ I want some input on... 15:55 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=2547 normal, P3, ---, jmf@liblime.com, NEW, $ sign in boraccount / fines / account tab 15:55 slef Can someone remind me how to use gitweb? I'm trying to check if http://git.koha.org/cgi-bin/gitweb.cgi?p=Koha;a=commit;h=471fe3927accd3787ecfd80a6a86d1188df3d9d8 is in current 3.0.x addressing Bug 2547 15:55 jwagner The state I grew up in didn't observe DST at all. Only practical difference was that for half the year, the TV programs were an hour later than the other half.... 15:53 Sharon in one state, it was a county-by-county decision! 15:53 Sharon I'm sending a request - we'll see if it's fixed. 15:53 Sharon maybe. 15:52 collum slef: Not sure why either. To throw another wrench into the works. It's a state by state decision. 15:51 slef I don't see why the US doesn't fall in line with Europe on the DST change. We've coordinated nearly 30 countries, but the US can't coordinate one? 15:50 collum But that's not a good answer either. 15:49 collum The time zone package for debian is tzdata. It probably needs to be updated. 15:47 jwagner But that's not a good answer. 15:47 jwagner I'll bet yours will reset itself automatically in a couple of weeks, on the old DST weekend. 15:47 jwagner Our servers updated themselves OK. 15:47 jwagner When Congress changed the dates on DST, most OS sites sent out patches for the various types of servers. Maybe that didn't get applied to yours? 15:46 Sharon guess we shoulda done the same this year! You'd think the server could do that on its own... 15:46 Sharon I'm told by another team member we had to send a reminder last year. 15:46 jwagner Sounds like the server clock didn't change times, then. 15:45 Sharon one of our libraries pulled materials at 7:40, only to have the list regenerate at 8 15:45 Sharon cron job runs at 7 am, but this morning it ran at 8 15:45 jwagner Sharon, in what sense? Was the job cronned to run at 2:00 AM or something? 15:44 Sharon one of our libraries just reported that our morning holds queue report (or whatever you folks call it) didn't realize yesterday was dst. 15:34 schuster http://wiki.koha.org/doku.php?id=en:development:rfcs3.2:rfc32_multiple_opac - criptic will have to see if I can give an example of the setup. 15:17 jwagner schuster, good work -- maybe write up how you did it for the wiki? 15:15 magnus schuster: sounds intriguing... 15:14 schuster 001.catalog.pisd.edu - will bring back searches for branch 001 and 901 locations - we have all our streaming and ebooks loaded into 901 location. 15:14 schuster jwagner and magnus - I was able to use the multi-branch opac with a modification to the location to get it to search 2 locations at the same time similar to what Jane did with Unicorn 14:59 Ropuch jwagner: ;-) 14:58 Ropuch And I was able to seek & destroy my typo 14:58 * jwagner thinks up ways to send new challenges in Ropuch's direction 14:57 Ropuch moodaepo: I know, but I like challenges ;> 14:56 moodaepo s/some many/ so many/ 14:56 moodaepo Ropuch: It's hard to help someone with some many problems and even though you had a typo it wasn't your job to completely spoon feed : ) 14:56 jwagner moodaepo, I've had two cups of tea, but caffeine doesn't help :-( It's a Monday morning, what can I say??? 14:55 Ropuch ...and my patience leveled up to whole new dimension 14:55 moodaepo jwagner: Er haven't had my caffeine yet so I claim what ever is the nicest meaning one can derive out of that : ) 14:55 Ropuch Besides his problems were kinda my fault ;> 14:55 jwagner But I agree with how you probably meant it :-) 14:55 Ropuch He was using my guide, so feel little obligated 14:54 jwagner moodaepo, you know that COULD be interpreted in multiple ways..... 14:54 Ropuch Thanks 14:53 moodaepo Ropuch++ # for helping psychos, again. 14:43 munin jwagner: Quote #60: "<owen> My 9-month-old may not be walking yet, but she's got great bib control." (added by gmcharlt at 12:31 PM, February 19, 2010) 14:43 jwagner @quote random 14:23 oceb Mmm Im from Lima,Perú. Where i can found more info about kohacon2010? 14:21 jwagner Maryland 14:21 oceb hi jwagner where are you from? 14:19 jwagner There were a bunch earlier. Dunno if they're still online. 14:17 oceb any latinoamerican people here? 14:16 munin oceb: The current temperature in Northwest Goleta, Goleta, California is 6.8�C (7:14 AM PDT on March 15, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 71%. Dew Point: 2.0�C. Windchill: 7.0�C. Pressure: 30.11 in 1019.5 hPa (Rising). 14:16 oceb @weather 93117 14:16 munin brendan: The current temperature in Northwest Goleta, Goleta, California is 6.8�C (7:14 AM PDT on March 15, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 71%. Dew Point: 2.0�C. Windchill: 7.0�C. Pressure: 30.11 in 1019.5 hPa (Rising). 14:16 brendan @weather 93117 14:15 oceb hi 13:58 magnus makes sense! 13:58 jwagner I've worked in libraries where an eresource was only available to a particular branch (separate subscriptions). In that case, the item record belonged to the branch, not the elibrary branch. 13:57 jwagner No clue on that one. I'd like to see it work, though -- this was a tremendously useful function in Unicorn and could be for Koha too. If an eresource is available to all users, you want to make it easy to find. 13:56 magnus thanks jwagner, i see what you are getting at, and it sounds like a solution that might work. i think there has been some problems with the library group function in koha not actually doing anything, though? 13:54 jwagner I know there's a library group function in Koha, but I've never tried doing anything with it. 13:54 jwagner magnus, I'm not sure how Koha might do it. In Unicorn, I did some involved setup that worked. First we created a separate branch for eresources and added item records for all of them with that branch. Then we defined search groups for the OPAC where instead of using the individual branches, the group was defined as branch + elibrary branch. That way limiting to the search group (transparent to user) searched both automatically. 13:52 magnus hm is there any way to make electronic journals appear in the results when a search is limited to one specific branch? 13:32 jwagner But that doesn't hot-link to another site, like an electronic bookplate, correct? 13:31 chris_n jwagner: we use 952e to note donor sort of info 13:31 jwagner chris_n, I suppose it could also be in the 952e. 13:22 jwagner No, the 952 u, Uniform Resource Identifier 13:21 chris_n` jwagner: is that information the same as 952$e "Source of Acquisition"? 13:17 jwagner The item uri field seems to be indexed, but I can't figure out how to limit a search on it. Any ideas on that? I tried uri:searchstring but it didn't work. 13:16 owen If all they needed was that link then the database of donor information could be kept separately from Koha 13:16 jwagner I've tried a test record, and either/or the 856 or the item uri field seem to work fine. 13:14 jwagner Sorry, was away for a few minutes. The main purpose for the bookplate seems to be public stroking of donors :-) but I was just talking to some of our librarians here, picking their brains. How it's set up may depend on what else they want to get out of it -- reports for a particular donor by year, etc. 13:04 collum It would be nice to link from the ILS. 13:04 collum jwagner: What a wonderful idea. Public libraries, at least ours, mainly use bookplates for items that are purchased or donated as memorials. 12:59 Fallor Hi #koha :) 12:55 owen jwagner: That's an interesting example. My library is trying a bookplate fundraiser right now, it would be neat to be able to link to them in the OPAC 12:54 owen I'll have to think on it some more later schuster. 12:54 owen Just changing it to each() doesn't work... 12:50 schuster learned with javascript that is. 12:50 schuster That is all pretty criptic because later click - the button to place hold actually passes the biblionumber - there's a couple of click(function() on the page - that's why I was wondering if I could change that from a click to onload. but the terms are different than what I have learned so far. 12:49 owen Maybe try changing it to $(".selectspecific").each(function() 12:48 owen Hmmm... except the $(".selectspecific").click(function() uses $(this) to pass a biblionumber... 12:47 schuster Document my changes well so that in the next upgrade I can either edit again or see about an enhancement. 12:47 owen That's much easier then. 12:46 schuster I can edit opac-reserve.tmpl - that's what I'm playing with... The beauty of self hosting ;) 12:46 schuster I was looking for a quick fix to force users to make copy specific holds rather than first available as that would force local only holds. 12:46 owen I don't have a complete answer on the solution schuster, but you'll have to try to accomplish it via opacuserjs...unless you can edit opac-reserve.tmpl 12:45 schuster so this is actually calling an external javascript? Is that what you are telling me? 12:42 owen schuster: My first thought is that you'll need to duplicate the contents of $(".selectspecific").click(function() on document load, but you'd have to restrict it to the holds page only 12:42 jwagner owen, see the "Purchased With" link under the call number at http://josiah.brown.edu/record=b3498108~S7 -- it's probably more common in academic/research libraries. 12:40 * owen has never heard of an electronic bookplate 12:37 jwagner Good morning, all. Is anyone doing anything with electronic bookplates? One of my sites is asking. So far the possibilities seem to be an 856 link in the title record and/or the 952u link in the item record. 12:33 owen schuster: Checking... 12:28 schuster Can I change that to an onload option so it is automatically selected? what would I call it? load? it doesn't follow my standard javascript so wasn't sure what to use. 12:28 schuster $(".selectspecific").click(function() { 12:27 schuster owen - quick question about javascript - I see in the opac-reserve.tmpl - a call for click "when specific copy function is clicked do x..." 12:20 hilongo no, I don't 12:18 psychokiller do you know Jorge Altamira ? 12:17 hilongo ha ha ha ... Hmmm ... I keep inviting him ... so maybe ;) 12:16 nahuel ar-gen-tina ! 12:16 nahuel lol 12:16 Kivutar1 lol 12:15 psychokiller maybe Diego Maradona will enter next 12:15 hilongo seems that all argentinians decided to show up today :) 12:14 hilongo HOla tomás :) 12:13 munin psychokiller: The current temperature in ARGYROUPOLI, Argyroupoli, Greece is 14.4�C (2:12 PM EET on March 15, 2010). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 52%. Dew Point: 4.0�C. Pressure: 29.91 in 1012.8 hPa (Steady). 12:12 psychokiller @wunder Athens, Greece 12:12 hilongo ha ha ... yes ... She's still here 12:11 munin hilongo: The current temperature in Mendoza Aerodrome, Argentina is 18.0�C (3:00 AM ART on March 15, 2010). Conditions: . Humidity: 41%. Dew Point: 8.0�C. Pressure: 29.85 in 1011 hPa (Rising). 12:11 hilongo @wunder Mendoza, Argentina 12:11 psychokiller Still Mrs Kirhner there ? 12:11 hilongo yep 12:10 psychokiller from argentina ? 12:09 hilongo nice nick... :) 12:08 psychokiller hello 12:08 hilongo hello everyone ... 12:07 psychokiller or are Proprietary ones still in the lead ? 12:06 psychokiller so is Koha the best LIS out there ? 12:06 psychokiller ok 12:04 collum Probably, 127.0.0.1:8080, or just http://localhost:8080 12:02 psychokiller ? 12:02 psychokiller so the staff interface is http://127.0.1.1:8080/ 12:01 psychokiller i will not set up zebra for the moment 12:00 collum It's fairly straight forward. You just have to make sure you have the correct environment variables set and that it is run by your koha user. 11:59 psychokiller noZebra that is 11:57 psychokiller is Zebra's installation a pain in the ass ? 11:57 psychokiller should i go with Zebra or not ? 11:56 collum Hi, psyhokiller. 11:55 psychokiller kentucky fried chickens ? 11:55 psychokiller hi collum 11:51 psychokiller here in greece 11:51 psychokiller i see some digitalisations projects have used it already 11:50 psychokiller ill think ill go with MARC21 11:48 psychokiller print in on the cover 11:48 Ropuch I don't think you want to print it on the books 11:47 Ropuch http://photoswest.org/marc.htm 11:47 Ropuch psychokiller: here's marc record example 11:47 Ropuch They have *Dc symbol on spine 11:46 Ropuch And if you have books sorted by DDC/UDC 11:45 Ropuch Or Shelfmark 11:45 Ropuch Call number 11:45 psychokiller thats printed here in greek libraries on the side of the book 11:45 psychokiller the DDC number that is and letters 11:45 psychokiller lol 11:44 Ropuch I know what a DDC is, but I'm not sure what you mean by "DDC record" ;> 11:44 psychokiller i know thats printed on the books , just wondering if the MARC record was printed too. 11:44 psychokiller where you will find it in the shelves 11:44 psychokiller DDC 11:44 Ropuch You mean CIP? 11:43 Ropuch What you mean by DWEWY redcord? 11:43 psychokiller only the DEWEY record is printed in the book ? 11:43 Ropuch Geez 11:43 psychokiller so a MARC record is printed on a book ? or is it only inside a computer ? 11:42 Ropuch psychokiller: I don't know, I'm not an expert on MARC-adoption history in every country 11:41 Ropuch And - as some systems were adopted - we're started on using marc 11:41 psychokiller but CCCP should have its own machine catalogue of books 11:41 psychokiller well it was pre -automatization pretty much everywhere 11:41 Ropuch Our standard was paper catalogue card 11:40 Ropuch Before 1989 it was pre-autoamization era of polish libraries 11:40 Ropuch What's your point? 11:40 psychokiller Russia had MARC for its libraries ? 11:40 psychokiller they must have something else 11:39 psychokiller that was an american system 11:39 psychokiller they didnt use MARC did they ? 11:39 psychokiller but lets say Poland before 1989 11:38 Ropuch MARC is a standard, so any serious ILS can handle MARC records 11:38 Ropuch Yes (millions MARCed books), no ('xmling' from the start) 11:36 psychokiller so they'll have to XMLem from the start ? 11:36 psychokiller but i guess there are millions books already MARCed 11:36 psychokiller i think XML can do what MARC can 11:36 psychokiller why libraries keep using MARC and not XML ? 11:35 psychokiller should i make the blog? 11:35 psychokiller it is ? 11:30 Ropuch case closed 11:29 Ropuch done 11:27 Ropuch I can split it in two 11:26 Ropuch Hm 11:26 Ropuch But 11:26 Ropuch it's there 11:26 Ropuch tar -zxvf koha-3.00.05.tar.gz && cd koha-3.00.05 11:25 psychokiller on perl 11:25 psychokiller on the Makefile thing 11:25 Ropuch I fixed init-connect part, so it shuold be ok 11:24 Ropuch I'm not sure where there is 'cd' missing? 11:22 psychokiller is it ok now ? 11:22 psychokiller have you added the cd commandds in your guide ? 11:21 psychokiller Nitzse ? 11:21 psychokiller who said that ? 11:21 psychokiller no 11:21 Ropuch But, what doesn't kill you makes you stronger, right? 11:20 Ropuch You can call me at midnight and whisper death-threats for wasting your time ;/ 11:19 Ropuch I don't know where those escapings came from 11:19 Ropuch And all works just fine 11:19 Ropuch init-connect='SET NAMES utf8' 11:18 Ropuch Here's the prblem 11:18 Ropuch init-connect=\'SET NAMES utf8\' 11:18 Ropuch The quotes where escaped and we fixed that 11:18 Ropuch Remeber sudo echo "grant all on koha.* to 'kohaadmin'@'localhost' identified by 'katikoan';" | mysql -uroot -p 11:18 Ropuch I/wordpress must have messed up with quotes 11:17 Ropuch Actually all this DBD error is my fault 11:17 Ropuch psychokiller: i must apalogize to you 11:17 Ropuch Oh man 11:14 psychokiller have to check out what they use in Greece 11:14 Ropuch I'm using Marc21 as it's more popular in Poland 11:13 Ropuch psychokiller: it's your call 11:10 psychokiller Unimarc or Marc21 ? 11:10 psychokiller what should i install 11:10 psychokiller Marc21 11:10 psychokiller Select your MARC flavour Unimarc 11:09 psychokiller maybe that someone will be me in the future if you help me 11:09 psychokiller well somebody has to do something with the greek translation 11:07 Ropuch Maybe it's greek translaton issue 11:07 Ropuch At least try it 11:07 psychokiller i better go for english ? 11:07 psychokiller greek 11:07 Ropuch psychokiller: what langiage have you selected? 11:07 psychokiller only one step ? 11:07 psychokiller right ? 11:06 magnus good night chris 11:06 chris right, sleep time for me 11:05 psychokiller no step=2 in the way ? 11:05 psychokiller is that it ? 11:04 psychokiller i see a nice white screen 11:04 psychokiller after this 11:04 psychokiller http://127.0.1.1:8080/cgi-bin/koha/installer/install.pl?step=1 11:04 psychokiller and another thing 11:04 psychokiller etc 11:04 psychokiller and then the folder etc 11:04 psychokiller the one you removed libdbd and server 11:03 Ropuch What step? 11:03 psychokiller there's some cd missing and what about the last step ? 11:03 Ropuch chris: it seems that installing libdbd-mysql-perl first doesn't fix it 11:03 psychokiller you have to make changes 11:03 psychokiller it's not complete YET ! 11:02 Ropuch Go for it 11:02 psychokiller or something 11:02 psychokiller and setup a blog for my thesis 11:02 psychokiller Ropuch if you Complete your guide im going to translate it in Greek 11:01 psychokiller ok ok 11:01 psychokiller there's a double a there 11:00 psychokiller kohaadmin and katikoan 11:00 psychokiller aha ! 11:00 chris its whatever you typed in when it asked you for it when you were installing 11:00 psychokiller thats not the passes my friend Ropuch 11:00 psychokiller nope 10:59 chris if so, then it is definitely in the file, near the bottom 10:59 chris could you login with it? 10:59 psychokiller ? 10:59 psychokiller is there something wrong i should know about > 10:58 psychokiller but thats not in the XML file ! 10:58 psychokiller aha 10:57 Ropuch kohaadmin/katikoan 10:57 psychokiller is that it ? 10:57 psychokiller <password>zebrastripes</password> 10:57 psychokiller <user>kohauser</user> 10:56 psychokiller " Please log in with the username and password given to you by your systems administrator and located in your koha-conf.xml configuration file. " 10:56 Ropuch Hi alex_a [; 10:55 magnus hi alex_a 10:54 psychokiller a bisexual librarian that is ? 10:54 psychokiller what a Biblibrian ? 10:53 chris hi alex_a :) 10:53 paul_p everybody say hello to alex_a, the new Biblibrian ;-) 10:53 chris that has not been my experience 10:52 psychokiller just like in the X - Files 10:52 psychokiller they deny knowledge 10:52 psychokiller oh im kidding but what im trying to say is that the Ubuntu Guys are going to DENY it 10:51 Ropuch psychokiller: what can I say: maybe you've done it wrong? ;> 10:51 psychokiller and then hung up 10:51 psychokiller saying YOU RE GOING TO DIE 10:51 psychokiller they started phoning in Midnight 10:51 psychokiller and I got hate-mails 10:51 psychokiller Ropuch I once tried to file a Joomla Bug 10:51 chris Ropuch: good idea 10:50 psychokiller instead of the admin interface 10:50 psychokiller and i got the user interface 10:50 psychokiller i forgot the port 10:50 psychokiller aha 10:50 Ropuch http://127.0.1.1:8080 10:49 Ropuch chris: I'm finishing new Koha install one, with libdbd-mysql-perl installed first, not as a part of mysql-server dependency 10:48 psychokiller hmm cant find it 10:48 psychokiller what's the admin page for koha ? 10:46 chris it would be breaking all sorts of things 10:46 chris Ropuch: might be worth searching see if anyone else has reported, cos its nothing to do with koha 10:46 Ropuch Maybe you should start to write novels instead of struggling with Koha? ;> 10:44 psychokiller and demand ransom from the koha community 10:44 psychokiller they are going to kidnap you in the middle of the night 10:44 psychokiller the Ubuntu Lobby will be attacking you then 10:42 Ropuch It looks like some packaging/dependency handling problem 10:42 Ropuch I wonder if i should fill an ubuntu bug 10:41 chris heya Ropuch :) 10:40 Ropuch ;> 10:40 Ropuch Hi chris 10:39 chris http://tinyurl.com/yjxzprp 10:37 Ropuch http://www.netconcepts.com/php-versus-perl/ 10:36 Ropuch http://www.thesitewizard.com/archive/phpvscgi.shtml 10:36 Ropuch I'm not a programmer so I can't tell you 10:34 psychokiller what similarities are there between perl and php ? 10:34 psychokiller oh shit 10:34 psychokiller so this is in Pel language ? 10:33 psychokiller but when i trashed the folder it works 10:33 psychokiller i did it again in the right order didnt happen either 10:33 psychokiller no good 10:33 psychokiller without trashing the folder 10:33 psychokiller then libdb 10:33 psychokiller i first installed the server 10:33 psychokiller i did it by mistake the other way round 10:33 psychokiller it doesnt work 10:33 psychokiller if you dont trash the folder 10:32 psychokiller the problem is the FOLDER 10:32 psychokiller NO 10:31 Ropuch I just want to be sure that installing libdb-mysql-perl before installing mysql-server solves the problem 10:31 Ropuch :) 10:31 Ropuch I know 10:27 psychokiller it worked for me 10:27 psychokiller remove the mysql server AND TRASH the directory TOO and THEN re install libdbd-mysql-perl and then mysql server 10:27 psychokiller well you have to remove it yes 10:26 psychokiller matters or not 10:26 psychokiller you've written that you don't know if removing /etc/mysql after purging it 10:26 psychokiller Ropuch 10:25 psychokiller i've installed Koha !!! 10:25 psychokiller it's a miracle 09:25 magnus hi hdl_laptop 09:25 hdl_laptop hi magnus 08:24 magnus hello, #koha 08:20 paulab ? 08:20 paulab Exist a way to doing this, or the only way is to create a script on cron, running monthly to increase patrons debt 08:19 paulab The problem is, I need to set up koha to keep growing the debt if the months go on and the patron still doesn't pay the monthly payment 08:17 paulab I have a question about Koha fines. I set Koha to make patrons to pay a fee each month, by setting an enrollment period of a month. If one month the patron doesn't pay the fee they can't loan any more. 08:12 paulab Hi! 07:17 Ropuch Morning #koha 05:13 Nouman hi 04:01 ebegin Hey amit! How are you? 04:01 Amit_G heya ebegin 03:54 ebegin I wish I had time to rewrite part of the prog template... 03:54 * ebegin just spent long hours in order to customized the opac... the experience is always painful... 02:00 chris yup 01:59 Genji ? 01:59 Genji which is the correct thing to say yes/ 01:54 Genji ya.. i said.. the major changes are hidden, because they are bugfixes. not feature upgrades. we won't 'gain' new features, but fix broken thngs... one of them might be the 700 field resaving problem. 01:54 chris heh, only about 500 bugfixes is all 01:53 Genji gotta smile at this. When i told my boss about upgrading from 3.0rc1 to 3.0.x head: "i don't think we will get a lot from upgrading. the version we upgrading to is not a major change from what we already have." 00:16 Ropuch Good night and see you in the morning, I'll try to reproduce the error at work 00:16 Ropuch Ok, I should be sleeping for at least an hour 00:15 Ropuch (I've removed /etc/mysql after purging it, don't kniow if it matters) 00:15 Ropuch And then apt-get install mysql-server 00:13 Ropuch Then apt-get install libdbd-mysql=perl 00:12 chris interesting 00:12 Ropuch I've apt-get remove --purge mysql-server-5.1 libhtml-template-perl mysql-client-5.1 mysql-server-core-5.1 libdbd-mysql-perl 00:11 Ropuch I worked 00:10 Ropuch Whoa 00:04 Ropuch Doing it right now :) 00:02 chris install libdbd-mysql-perl first, then the server after? 00:02 chris maybe remove mysql-server etc 00:02 chris its gotta be something to do with the dbd mismatch 00:01 Ropuch But the problem occur when trying to install on fresh system 00:00 Ropuch Isn't it? 00:00 chris weird 00:00 Ropuch s/stem/system 00:00 Ropuch And the stem is updated 00:00 Ropuch I can still install 3.05 without a problem following the same routine