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brendan |
howdy chris_n2 |
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chris_n2 |
heya brendan |
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* chris_n2 |
manually creates a pull request since github does not appear to have the ability to email a pull request :-( |
| 00:31 |
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brendan |
cya #koha - heading home to cook :) |
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chris |
cya brendan |
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chris_n2 |
cooking++ |
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* chris_n2 |
wonders if brendan attained a culinary achievement |
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brendan |
chris_n2 an excellent stew will be ready for dinner tomorrow night :) |
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chris_n2 |
sounds good :-) |
| 02:57 |
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chris_n2 |
g'night #Koha |
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brendan |
night chris_n2 |
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Amit |
heya brendan, chris |
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Amit |
good morning #koha |
| 03:33 |
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brendan |
good evening Amit |
| 03:33 |
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brendan |
@wunder new delhi |
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munin |
brendan: The current temperature in New Delhi, India is 8.0�C (8:30 AM IST on January 12, 2010). Conditions: Mist. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: 6.0�C. Windchill: 7.0�C. Pressure: 30.06 in 1018 hPa (Steady). |
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brendan |
@wunder 93117 |
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munin |
brendan: The current temperature in Northwest Goleta, Goleta, California is 13.8�C (7:30 PM PST on January 11, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 60%. Dew Point: 6.0�C. Pressure: 30.08 in 1018.5 hPa (Rising). High surf advisory in effect from 8 PM Tuesday to 9 am PST Friday... |
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Amit |
@wunder Dehradun, India |
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munin |
Amit: The current temperature in Dehradun, India is 6.0�C (8:30 AM IST on January 12, 2010). Conditions: Heavy Fog. Humidity: 100%. Dew Point: 6.0�C. Pressure: 30.10 in 1019 hPa. |
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Amit |
@wunder Bangalore, India |
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munin |
Amit: The current temperature in Bangalore, India is 22.0�C (8:30 AM IST on January 12, 2010). Conditions: Haze. Humidity: 79%. Dew Point: 19.0�C. |
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Ropuch |
Morning #koha |
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CGI076 |
I m using koha-3.00.04_fixed on debian, when I want to import and save any record from z3950 search |
| 07:22 |
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CGI076 |
It show ' cant save this record because the following field aren't filled: *ta942 subfield c koha [defualt] item in tab 9 |
| 07:22 |
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CGI076 |
can any one help me? |
| 07:27 |
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Amit |
heya nicomo, Ropuch |
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nicomo |
hi Amit |
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CGI076 |
how can I solve this problem |
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CGI076 |
? |
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CGI605 |
I asked Question, can any body help me....? |
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nicomo |
CGI605: I guess you have to either fill in this field |
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nicomo |
orelse go to admin > MARC framework > edit the subfield > not mandatory |
| 09:20 |
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CGI605 |
nicomo: how can I fill this one? there is no value in combo box |
| 09:21 |
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CGI605 |
I want to only import and save record via z3950 |
| 09:21 |
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nicomo |
ok, then make the subfield not mandatory |
| 09:22 |
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nicomo |
if you want to fill the field and it's a dropbox |
| 09:22 |
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nicomo |
in the framework it should be linked to an Authorized Value list |
| 09:23 |
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nicomo |
populating the dropbox |
| 09:43 |
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CGI605 |
nicomo: there is not mandatory selected, still it show problem |
| 09:44 |
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nicomo |
sure you're checking the right bibliographic framework? i.e. cataloging with default and looking default framework in admin? |
| 09:47 |
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CGI605 |
nicomo: Im not getting |
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CGI605 |
Im in Marc Bibliographic framework |
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nicomo |
you should have at least a Default framework |
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nicomo |
admin/biblio_framework.pl |
| 09:49 |
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nicomo |
then admin/marctagstructure.pl?frameworkcode= |
| 09:49 |
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CGI605 |
Im not still getting |
| 09:49 |
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nicomo |
loook for the field that causes the problem, e.g. 942 |
| 09:49 |
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CGI605 |
plz tell me easy steps as Im new |
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nicomo |
go to /admin/marc_subfields_structure.pl?tagfield=942&frameworkcode= |
| 09:50 |
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nicomo |
you should see the subfields for this 942 field |
| 09:56 |
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CGI605 |
Yeah I m there and there is not mandatory field |
| 09:57 |
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CGI605 |
error was in 942 in c c |
| 10:07 |
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nicomo |
CGI605: no further idea then, i don't know |
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CGI605 |
tag 942 sub field c koha [defualt] item ty in tab tab 9 |
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chris_n |
good morning |
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jwagner |
Good morning chris_n |
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nengard |
morning all |
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jdavidb |
Hi, nengard! :) |
| 13:17 |
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nengard |
how goes it? |
| 13:19 |
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jdavidb |
so far, so good. The caffeine hasn't kicked in quite yet, so ask again later. :/ |
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nengard |
hehe |
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CGI113 |
hi |
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* owen |
tries to change Ubuntu's system date so he can check some books out yesterday |
| 14:53 |
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Ropuch |
date -s? |
| 14:57 |
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owen |
Didn't work, not sure why |
| 15:01 |
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owen |
Never mind, worked that time. |
| 15:01 |
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Ropuch |
sudo date +%Y%m%d -s "20081128" |
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Ropuch |
ropuch bagno:~$ date |
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Ropuch |
pi�, 28 lis 2008, 00:00:02 CET |
| 15:02 |
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Ropuch |
But it reminds unchanged in gnome systray clock |
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| 15:16 |
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someone |
so... ive got an issue while importing a MARC record. the marc record has ~3300 titles, and koha has, as far as i can tell, stopped trying to import at the 25th entry |
| 15:16 |
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someone |
it still says "Status staging" |
| 15:16 |
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someone |
but inside of "Manage Staged MARC Records › Batch 1 ", it only lists 25 titles |
| 15:17 |
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someone |
its been running for uh. 10ish hours? |
| 15:17 |
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owen |
It should take a few minutes. |
| 15:17 |
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owen |
I would guess that something in that marc file is tripping it up. |
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someoneagain |
so apparently my laptop doesnt like running on 1% battery for any sustained amount of time |
| 15:22 |
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someoneagain |
live and learn |
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someoneagain |
so yeah, initially all of our book information was just entered into a 5 column excel spreadsheet... |
| 15:24 |
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someoneagain |
used MarcEdit to convert that data to MARC. i know nothing about MARC21 format but the creator of MarcEdit was nice enough to supply me with the information that was applicable to our excel spreadsheet layout: Field 0: 035$a = proprietary book number, Field 1: 090$a = LC classification number, Field 2: 260$c = Publication date, Field 3: 100$a; indicators: 10 = Author, Field 4: 245$a; indicators: 10 = Title |
| 15:25 |
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someoneagain |
i guess my question is, is there any particular place on the server i should be looking for detailed information on what is stopping the process from importing the data from the 26th record? (if indeed i am correct for assuming the 26th record is in error, seeing as how the site only shows me details of the imported records going to the 25th record) |
| 15:31 |
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nengard |
Your error log might have something in it |
| 15:32 |
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nengard |
that said, you're probably missing a required field of some sort - but I've never used MarcEdit so I dont know for sure how to help you there |
| 15:32 |
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someoneagain |
ive checked /var/log/koha/koha-error_log and koha-opac-error_log but neither seem to have anything regarding the importing of the MARC file |
| 15:33 |
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nengard |
this may help: http://koha.org/documentation/[…]al/using-marcedit |
| 15:33 |
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someoneagain |
how about this, is it possible to completely cancel the import process and abandon any changes that would otherwise have been imported after the staging |
| 15:33 |
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nengard |
I'm not the best person to talk to about server issues - i always have to ask to be reminded how to find the error log :) hehe |
| 15:33 |
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someoneagain |
so that i can try it all over again with a smaller MARC file? |
| 15:34 |
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nengard |
hmmm - I'm sure you could - but I don't know what command to use |
| 15:34 |
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someoneagain |
well at any rate thanks for the link, i will definitely read through it ( i know next to nothing about MARC so this should help) |
| 15:36 |
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owen |
Lots of lurkers here, not many helpers. |
| 15:36 |
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owen |
nengard: Are you still having trouble with bugzilla today? |
| 15:36 |
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someoneagain |
i can identify with that, even irl :) |
| 15:36 |
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nengard |
owen - nope |
| 15:36 |
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owen |
I don't have any problems accessing it, but it took about 12 hours for my last bugzilla emails to come through |
| 15:37 |
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nengard |
owen maybe the server needs a restart :) |
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moodaepo |
@wunder 56001 |
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munin |
moodaepo: The current temperature in South on Monks, Mankato, Minnesota is -12.2�C (9:33 AM CST on January 12, 2010). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 88%. Dew Point: -13.0�C. Windchill: -19.0�C. Pressure: 30.33 in 1027.0 hPa (Rising). |
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someoneagain |
hrm, well, it has defnintely imported a ton more than 25 records. i just did a mysqldump of koha import_records and its a 3mb text file |
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chris_n |
@wunder 28334 |
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munin |
chris_n: The current temperature in Dunn, North Carolina is 5.6�C (11:27 AM EST on January 12, 2010). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 16%. Dew Point: -18.0�C. Windchill: 3.0�C. Pressure: 29.83 in 1010.0 hPa (Rising). |
| 16:34 |
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chris_n |
wow... heatwave :-) |
| 16:34 |
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owen |
Hi chris_n |
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chris_n |
howdy owen |
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schuster |
someoneagain - dump is more than just marc. |
| 16:38 |
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schuster |
someoneagain - in MarcEdit you might run the MARCVALIDATOR from the menu on top to see if it finds any particular errors. You might also search for a few titles beyond the 25th one to see if they actually imported. Usually it shows the first 25 and there are numbers at the bottom of the screen to go to the next batch of 25. |
| 16:39 |
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someoneagain |
yeah im thinking something was terribly wrong because i saw screenshots of someone elses koha installation at that particular screen, schuster |
| 16:39 |
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someoneagain |
and mine didnt have those numbers to go to different pages |
| 16:39 |
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someoneagain |
so i just nuked the old koha database and recreated it in mysql, and rm -rf'd the entire koha installed directory, im rebuilding it now |
| 16:40 |
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someoneagain |
im sort of in the dark when it comes to looking at marc files, i dont really know what im supposed to be expecting to see, but ill definitely try that marc validator. im breaking the 3000 line excel spreadsheet into smaller chunks to try doing test imports of smaller amounts at a time |
| 16:42 |
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brendan |
owen that last patch for bug 4035 - that working ok for you? |
| 16:42 |
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schuster |
How big is your marc file? |
| 16:42 |
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munin |
Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4035 major, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonardmyacpl.org, ASSIGNED, Today's checkouts grouped with previous checkouts |
| 16:43 |
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someoneagain |
it was about 800K |
| 16:44 |
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owen |
brendan: I tested that patch on HEAD, and as far as I can tell it fixes the problem. |
| 16:44 |
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brendan |
cool great - I'm just getting a chance to look at that. I think I'll give it a shot :) |
| 16:46 |
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someoneagain |
the guy that wrote MarcEdit told me that based on my excel file, this is how i should probably map the fields when using the delimited text translator Field 3: 100$a; indicators: 10 = Author Field 4: 245$a; indicators: 10 = Title |
| 16:46 |
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someoneagain |
but to be honest i really didnt follow him on that, as far as the 'indicators 10=' part |
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someoneagain |
hrm, yeah.. i guess that part is important because marcvalidator is showing errors only on those two particular fields |
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owen |
nengard: Can I ask if you remember a bug report for a particular problem? |
| 16:55 |
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nengard |
you can ask :) |
| 16:56 |
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owen |
Here's the bug: Check in an item at Branch A which is on hold for a patron at Branch B. Confirm the transfer. |
| 16:57 |
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owen |
Then check it in again: You get two confirmation dialogs: One which says transfer, one which doesn't. |
| 16:57 |
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nengard |
yeah - i think i saw that bug - and it ididn't used to do that .. so it's a new one ... let me see what i can find |
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nengard |
owen - i'm not having much luck ... |
| 17:01 |
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owen |
Yeah, me neither. I guess I'll submit a new report and wait for someone to mark it as a duplicate. |
| 17:01 |
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nengard |
not seeing it in my emails or in the bugs db |
| 17:02 |
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nengard |
maybe you need to report it :) |
| 17:10 |
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owen |
Bug 4040 |
| 17:10 |
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munin |
Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4040 normal, P5, ---, gmcharltgmail.com, NEW, Checking in an already confirmed on-hold item results in duplicate dialogs |
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collum |
owen: are you thinking of bug 3345 |
| 17:25 |
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munin |
Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3345 normal, P5, ---, gmcharltgmail.com, NEW, Return All items on patron detail does not initiate transfer of holds |
| 17:25 |
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owen |
collum: No, that's different |
| 17:25 |
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collum |
OK |
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* owen |
sees bugzilla emails trickling in from hours ago |
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someoneagain |
anyone ever seen this when running make test? |
| 17:53 |
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someoneagain |
t/Dates.t (Wstat: 65280 Tests: 135 Failed: 9) Failed tests: 127-135 Non-zero exit status: 255 Parse errors: Bad plan. You planned 126 tests but ran 135. Files=21, Tests=198, 11 wallclock secs ( 0.28 usr 0.06 sys + 5.67 cusr 0.84 csys = 6.85 CPU) Result: FAIL Failed 1/21 test programs. 9/198 subtests failed. make: *** [test_dynamic] Error 255 |
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chris_n |
atz++ # death to EXPR |
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owen |
death to EXPR = death to the 126 instances currently found in the templates |
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liz-nekls |
what, you didn't need more to do? |
| 18:48 |
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chris |
owen: dont worry about it |
| 18:49 |
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chris |
H::T::P is gone soon anyway |
| 18:49 |
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chris |
to be replaced with TT (i have about half the opac done) |
| 18:49 |
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chris |
which actually does what EXPR is supposed to do, but properly |
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owen |
chris: Is there a TT for dummies that would help me understand what we're switching to? |
| 18:51 |
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chris |
sure is |
| 18:51 |
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liz-nekls |
yes, I am interested in that as well |
| 18:51 |
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chris |
the docs are about 10 million times better |
| 18:52 |
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chris |
http://template-toolkit.org/do[…]manual/Intro.html |
| 18:53 |
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brendan |
chris - you still at home or at work yet? |
| 18:53 |
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Ropuch |
*bookmarked* |
| 18:53 |
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Ropuch |
Hi chris, brendan, owen |
| 18:53 |
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brendan |
hi Ropuch |
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chris |
owen: http://git.workbuffer.org/cgi-[…]df732409bf178a292 |
| 18:55 |
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chris |
in the koha context |
| 18:55 |
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chris |
brendan: still at home 10 mins til bus |
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rich-away is now known as richard |
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JeremyLC |
Can I check a single item to multiple borrowers simultaneously? |
| 19:05 |
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owen |
No |
| 19:05 |
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owen |
Why would you want to? |
| 19:05 |
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JeremyLC |
because we already do |
| 19:05 |
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JeremyLC |
Our patrons get credit for time spent using our materials |
| 19:05 |
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JeremyLC |
some things, notably movies (for language learning), can be shared |
| 19:06 |
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owen |
Interesting. Does that mean your library software integrates with some kind of credit-tracking software? |
| 19:06 |
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liz-nekls |
more to the point... wht is your current library software |
| 19:06 |
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JeremyLC |
we're a University language lab, credit doesn't apply |
| 19:07 |
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owen |
You just said patrons get credit |
| 19:07 |
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JeremyLC |
our current software is an abomination that was grown internally using PHP and apache (I did not write it) |
| 19:08 |
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liz-nekls |
Ahhhh |
| 19:08 |
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JeremyLC |
right, course credit. Their profs. say 'spend x hours/week' in the lab', our software tracks what they check out and use, and how long they had it |
| 19:09 |
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JeremyLC |
I already know that hourly circulation is not in Koha, but I'm capable of adding that (and, if uni. legal clears it, contributing it back to the project) |
| 19:10 |
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JeremyLC |
I've been looking through the documentation regarding circulation to try find the answer to the question I just asked (and got answered, thanks) |
| 19:10 |
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owen |
Just my opinion, but it sounds like tracking these hours is something outside the realm of what Koha should be doing. |
| 19:11 |
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JeremyLC |
well, for the circulation, I would just change from using date to datetime when recording issues |
| 19:12 |
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JeremyLC |
(and figuring due dates/times) |
| 19:12 |
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JeremyLC |
I know I'm not the only one who needed to do that, as I have researched it |
| 19:12 |
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JeremyLC |
I know the LibLime even implemented such a thing for one of their customers |
| 19:13 |
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JeremyLC |
(Our budget isn't really big enough to deal with them) |
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owen |
Hourly loans are still within the paradigm of "one item one patron" |
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JeremyLC |
yes |
| 19:14 |
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owen |
I'm not sure how you break out of that without breaking a lot of other things |
| 19:14 |
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JeremyLC |
I haven't looked at what I would need to do for 'one item many patrons' |
| 19:15 |
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JeremyLC |
(re: LibLime, I meant the hourly circulation) |
| 19:15 |
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owen |
To me this sounds like a whole new module, separate from regular circulation. |
| 19:17 |
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JeremyLC |
yuck |
| 19:17 |
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Ropuch |
Hm |
| 19:18 |
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Ropuch |
Items can have multiple holds |
| 19:19 |
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Ropuch |
But owen is right, it should be (and would be easier to implement) separate from circ |
| 19:21 |
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Ropuch |
Bah, now I'm thinking how to do it instead od translating ;-P |
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JeremyLC |
sorry |
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Ropuch |
;> |
| 19:21 |
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JeremyLC |
It sounds like I may need to investigate alternatives, then |
| 19:22 |
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owen |
JeremyLC: A question to ask yourself is whether Koha offers enough benefits aside from this issue to make it worth using |
| 19:22 |
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someoneagain |
when i go to administration, Libraries and Groups , it wont let me delete franklin, midway, pleasant valley or springfield. it says 'library deleted', but they remain on the page |
| 19:23 |
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JeremyLC |
I'll have to investigate some more before I can decide that |
| 19:23 |
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JeremyLC |
It is very powerful, and would be very nice for us to use |
| 19:24 |
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JeremyLC |
however, these two features are vital |
| 19:25 |
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Ropuch |
JeremyLC: you can always add some custom buttons to circ templates and call some exterior app, passing some koha-related stuff to it |
| 19:25 |
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JeremyLC |
I specifically want to avoid that sort of thing |
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Ropuch |
:) |
| 19:26 |
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JeremyLC |
I'm a technical person in a very non-technical dept |
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someoneagain |
JeremyLC: when you say LibLime, are you referring to Evergreen? |
| 19:26 |
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owen |
LibLime != Evergreen |
| 19:26 |
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owen |
LibLime = a Koha support vendor |
| 19:26 |
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someoneagain |
Ah |
| 19:26 |
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JeremyLC |
(eng. degree working in foreign lang) I want them to be able to operate without me when I eventually move one |
| 19:26 |
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JeremyLC |
er, move on |
| 19:27 |
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owen |
someoneagain: LibLime offers its customers a proprietary fork of Koha which includes some features (like hourly loans) not in the open source version |
| 19:27 |
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JeremyLC |
I want to leave as little in-house software as possible, and good documentation for what is here |
| 19:28 |
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JeremyLC |
I would like my successors to be able to do server updates and upgrades without having to wonder what version of which tool I used, an whether newer versions will break something |
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someoneagain |
thats kinda uh |
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someoneagain |
odd sounding |
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JeremyLC |
not if you've had to deal with our existing system |
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someoneagain |
but since im ignorant to all of this ill just keep silent so that my ignorance shows less :D |
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someoneagain |
no, not you, i was talking to owen |
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Ropuch |
sounds reasonable to me |
| 19:32 |
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JeremyLC |
there is 0 documentation |
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someoneagain |
everything you said was pretty much over my head :) |
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JeremyLC |
no configuration interface either, to do almost any configuring I have to log into phpmyadmin and edit the DB directly |
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chris |
hourly loans is easy |
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chris |
multiple borrowers .. not so much |
| 19:55 |
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JeremyLC |
I got that impression |
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chris |
you could ask Liblime to release the code, they do trumpet themselves as teh global leader in open source ... ask them to put their code where their mouth is |
| 19:56 |
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chris |
otherwise someone will just have to re do it |
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chris |
which isnt hard, but a waste of time and effort |
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JeremyLC |
I could implement hourly loans myself, even using the RFC in the 3.2 docs, but the multiple borrowers issue may be beyond my available time (and talents) |
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chris |
it's something that will require major changes |
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chris |
and really is probably outside the scope of koha |
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chris |
you can use koha as a materials tracking tool ... but bending it that far .. |
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chris |
you are probably best off using an LDAP backend, sharing data between koha and a materials tracking tool |
| 19:59 |
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chris |
(room bookings, etc) |
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JeremyLC |
we have a campus wide LDAP with all our student info in it (I wrote a MOODLE plugin to use it for auto-enrolments and account creation) |
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chris |
then what i would look at doing is using a materials tracking tool that can talk LDAP to deal with things like shared movies |
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chris |
or, like owen said, make a separate module for Koha |
| 20:03 |
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chris |
it would bust to much stuff trying to wedge that into regular circulation |
| 20:09 |
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owen |
Is the "maxreserves" system preference deprecated? |
| 20:10 |
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chris |
i think so |
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chris |
its replaced with the new smart rules stuff |
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owen |
In request.pl : if ( $number_reserves > C4::Context->preference('maxreserves') ) { |
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chris |
hmmm, you might want to email koha-devel/biblibre ... imho, that should go away for 3.2 |
| 20:12 |
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owen |
I'm trying to figure out what I can't place holds and that's what I ran across. |
| 20:12 |
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chris |
actually 2 secs |
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chris |
i did a bugfix for that already |
| 20:14 |
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chris |
bug3785 |
| 20:14 |
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chris |
http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3785 |
| 20:14 |
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munin |
Bug 3785: critical, PATCH-Sent, ---, chrisbigballofwax.co.nz, ASSIGNED, New Install, no maxreserves setting, OPAC holds fail |
| 20:15 |
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owen |
So a similar change needs to be made to request.pl? |
| 20:15 |
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chris |
*nod* |
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chris |
something like this |
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someoneagain |
has this bug reopened? |
| 20:16 |
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someoneagain |
http://lists.katipo.co.nz/publ[…]-June/018995.html |
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chris |
if ( C4::Context->preference('maxreserves') && $number_reserves > C4::Context->preference('maxreserves') ) { |
| 20:16 |
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chris |
can you try that own |
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chris |
owen too |
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someoneagain |
when i try to place a hold i get the same error that guy got, |
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someoneagain |
brb |
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chris |
what version of koha someoneagain |
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owen |
So chris it looks like there is no check of the holds allowed count as set by smart-rules.pl |
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owen |
All we've got is maxreserves, and that's now "if you've got maxreserves set" |
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chris |
yeah there is in the opac |
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chris |
hmm or not |
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chris |
yeah, i think we need to ask biblibre .. it might be there are some patches waiting to be pushed |
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* owen |
's head hurts from all the patches waiting to be pushed |
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chris |
yeah, i wonder if i can un nominate myself for 3.4 hehe |
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owen |
No!!! |
| 20:28 |
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owen |
Not unless you want me to grab your ankle and not let go |
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chris |
hehe |
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jwagner |
And for the rest of us to grab you as well..... |
| 20:29 |
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chris |
was worth a shot :) |
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someoneagain |
chris: 3.00.02.012 |
| 20:34 |
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chris |
ahh thats a pretty old version |
| 20:34 |
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someoneagain |
doh.... i just downloaded it and installed today |
| 20:34 |
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someoneagain |
should i have grabbed 3.2? |
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chris |
where did you get it from? |
| 20:34 |
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someoneagain |
the main site |
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chris |
damnit |
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chris |
now i have to fight the urge to rant about liblime again |
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someoneagain |
sec let me make sure, i might be trippin |
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chris |
urge suppressed |
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chris_n |
hehe |
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chris |
http://download.koha.org/ |
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chris |
you want http://download.koha.org/koha-3.00.05.tar.gz |
| 20:35 |
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chris |
thats the latest stable release |
| 20:35 |
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someoneagain |
http://download.koha.org/koha-3.00.02.tar.gz |
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someoneagain |
is the link i used on their site |
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chris |
dont ask why that isnt linked from the main site |
| 20:35 |
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chris |
yeah, its wrong, out of date by months and .... |
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* chris |
stops himself |
| 20:36 |
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chris |
short version is, 3.00.05 is the version you want |
| 20:36 |
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someoneagain |
hmmmm... can i do an in place upgrade or do i have to redo everything? like delete and recreate the mysql db, etc? |
| 20:36 |
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chris |
you can do an upgrade |
| 20:36 |
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chris |
download the new version |
| 20:36 |
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someoneagain |
k :| im skird but ill try |
| 20:36 |
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chris |
unpack it |
| 20:36 |
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chris |
perl Makefile.PL --prev-install-log /path/to/koha-install-log |
| 20:37 |
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chris |
(the previous install log will be in your 3.00.02 unpacked dir) |
| 20:37 |
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* chris_n |
accidentally updates the perl on his production server |
| 20:38 |
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chris_n |
and now has to rebuild most of the koha deps |
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chris_n |
>:-( |
| 20:38 |
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chris |
someoneagain: probably in the misc dir |
| 20:39 |
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chris |
and then after that, make, make test, make install |
| 20:39 |
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someoneagain |
oh wow, 91meg |
| 20:39 |
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chris |
yeah lot more languages translated |
| 20:39 |
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someoneagain |
so this might also explain why make test was failing |
| 20:39 |
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someoneagain |
(oldversion) |
| 20:39 |
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chris |
*nod* |
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chris |
chris_n: :( |
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chris_n |
yeah, it appears that a portion of the perl modules are installed in /usr/local/share/perl/version_number/module |
| 20:42 |
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chris |
that'd be the cpan'd ones |
| 20:42 |
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* chris_n |
figures there is some obscure reason for not installing them all in the same place |
| 20:42 |
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chris |
thats why .debs win |
| 20:42 |
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chris |
cos when you upgrade perl it upgrades all the perl related .debs too |
| 20:42 |
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chris_n |
sometimes the .debs are not the latest |
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chris_n |
ahh |
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chris_n |
bbl |
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owen |
bye all |
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someoneagain |
hello there richard |
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someoneagain |
im someone |
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someoneagain |
again |
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* someoneagain |
beams |
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JeremyLC |
My boss suggested an interesting solution to me. We could suffix a patron number to our barcodes |
| 21:34 |
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JeremyLC |
So if abcd123 is the code for "Blue Angel", then abcd123-patron2 could be for the second person to simultaneously check out |
| 21:35 |
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chris |
so have multiple items ? |
| 21:35 |
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JeremyLC |
yes |
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chris |
its hacky, but it'd work :) |
| 21:35 |
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JeremyLC |
it gets a bit complex, though, when you consider that we sometimes have multiple physical copies of the same item |
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JeremyLC |
it would save a lot of coding, though. |
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someoneagain |
gah, the update installer seems to have used a variable quite literally |
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someoneagain |
Installing /data/koha-3.00.05/__INSTALL_BASE__/man/man3/misc::translator::tmpl_process3.3pm |
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chris |
hlj |
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chris |
whoops |
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chris |
it might have been the wrong install-log .. you might need to see if there is another one |
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chris |
(no harm no foul, you can just get rid of /data/koha-3.00.05/__INSTALL_BASE__/ ) |
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chris_n2 |
arghhh |
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chris |
still stuck in perl upgrade? |
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chris_n2 |
so it appears that my @INC has been screwed up |
| 22:03 |
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chris_n2 |
perl did not upgrade afaict |
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chris |
ahh |
| 22:03 |
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chris_n2 |
but @INC has pathing in it to 5.10.1 |
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chris_n2 |
and some pathing from my dev box as well |
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* chris_n2 |
scratches his head |
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chris_n2 |
so who is responsible for setting the default @INC? |
| 22:04 |
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chris |
pass |
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* chris_n2 |
winces |
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chris |
its not a .bashrc or .bash_profile or something else setting it for you? |
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someoneagain |
oh snap |
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someoneagain |
you're right chris |
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someoneagain |
gah now ive got to build this all over again lol. poor pseudoserver is getting overworked |
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chris |
heh |
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schuster |
by all... Hopefully tonight I can finish setting up my testing box for 3.2!!! You might hear from me later! |
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someoneagain |
do i need to make clean before reruning make? |
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chris |
good luck schuster |
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chris |
someoneagain: hmm might be safest |
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someoneagain |
k |
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stupid chatzilla |
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chris_n2 |
so much for helpful hints from the folks at #perl and #perl-help |
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someoneagain |
try undernet |
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someoneagain |
and cross your fingers you find the server with the most users still on it after the netsplits |
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moodaepo |
@wunder 56001 |
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munin |
moodaepo: The current temperature in South on Monks, Mankato, Minnesota is -8.3�C (5:18 PM CST on January 12, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 86%. Dew Point: -10.0�C. Windchill: -15.0�C. Pressure: 30.09 in 1018.8 hPa (Rising). |
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@wunder 28334 |
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munin |
chris_n2: The current temperature in Dunn, North Carolina is 0.9�C (6:37 PM EST on January 12, 2010). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 20%. Dew Point: -20.0�C. Windchill: 1.0�C. Pressure: 29.83 in 1010.0 hPa (Rising). |
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someoneagain |
how can i pull up a full list of all users and delete the default ones that came with the program? |
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someoneagain |
er, patrons rather |
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chris_n2 |
heya pianohackr|work |
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pianohackr|work |
hi, chris_n2 |
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pianohackr|work |
someoneagain: In the patrons section, you can step through them by the first letter of their last name |
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pianohackr|work |
labor intensive, but it works |
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someoneagain |
k |
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someoneagain |
thanks |
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someoneagain |
when i do a search im getting this error. ideas? |
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chris_n2 |
someoneagain: unless you opted to load the sample borrower data, there should be no patrons by default |
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someoneagain |
hmm. doh. thats probably what i did. i just selected a bunch of the samples without really knowing what they were. |
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someoneagain |
[Tue Jan 12 11:51:27 2010] [error] [client 10.0.2.154] [Tue Jan 12 11:51:27 2010] opac-search.pl: "my" variable $content_type masks earlier declaration in same scope at /data/koha/opac/cgi-bin/opac/opac-search.pl line 586., referer: http://library/cgi-bin/koha/op[…]search.pl?q=white |
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chris_n2 |
someoneagain: you can open a mysql prompt and drop and recreate the database; then run the webinstaller again |
| 23:51 |
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chris_n2 |
that will probably be faster |
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someoneagain |
chris_n2: you are referring to removing the users, and not referring to the error above, right? |
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chris_n2 |
correct |
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someoneagain |
k ill probably do that... and while im at it i wont add thet default librarys either because i cant delete them :| |
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chris_n2 |
what version are you using |
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someoneagain |
latest... just reinstalled... uh it ends in 05 |
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someoneagain |
not 02 |
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someoneagain |
hmm i dont know what to do christ |
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someoneagain |
err chris :\ |
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someoneagain |
zebra just got done indexing 3300 titles i imported |
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chris_n2 |
so 3.0.5 |
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someoneagain |
so if i drop the db and make it anew, ill have to import again... will i have to clear the zebra index's also? |
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chris_n2 |
yeah, if you drop the db, you will have to reindex zebra |
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someoneagain |
i know _nothing_ about zebra. its like voodoo or something |
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someoneagain |
ugh |
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chris_n2 |
just rebuild_zebra.pl -r -v -a -b |
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someoneagain |
thanks |
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chris_n2 |
look in the misc/migration_tools subdir |
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chris_n2 |
but you'll have to re-import your records into the new db |
