Time Nick Message 00:03 brendan howdy chris_n2 00:05 chris_n2 heya brendan 00:15 * chris_n2 manually creates a pull request since github does not appear to have the ability to email a pull request :-( 00:31 brendan cya #koha - heading home to cook :) 00:36 chris cya brendan 01:06 chris_n2 cooking++ 02:17 * chris_n2 wonders if brendan attained a culinary achievement 02:50 brendan chris_n2 an excellent stew will be ready for dinner tomorrow night :) 02:50 chris_n2 sounds good :-) 02:57 chris_n2 g'night #Koha 02:58 brendan night chris_n2 03:33 Amit heya brendan, chris 03:33 Amit good morning #koha 03:33 brendan good evening Amit 03:33 brendan @wunder new delhi 03:33 munin brendan: The current temperature in New Delhi, India is 8.0�C (8:30 AM IST on January 12, 2010). Conditions: Mist. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: 6.0�C. Windchill: 7.0�C. Pressure: 30.06 in 1018 hPa (Steady). 03:33 brendan @wunder 93117 03:33 munin brendan: The current temperature in Northwest Goleta, Goleta, California is 13.8�C (7:30 PM PST on January 11, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 60%. Dew Point: 6.0�C. Pressure: 30.08 in 1018.5 hPa (Rising). High surf advisory in effect from 8 PM Tuesday to 9 am PST Friday... 03:36 Amit @wunder Dehradun, India 03:36 munin Amit: The current temperature in Dehradun, India is 6.0�C (8:30 AM IST on January 12, 2010). Conditions: Heavy Fog. Humidity: 100%. Dew Point: 6.0�C. Pressure: 30.10 in 1019 hPa. 03:36 Amit @wunder Bangalore, India 03:36 munin Amit: The current temperature in Bangalore, India is 22.0�C (8:30 AM IST on January 12, 2010). Conditions: Haze. Humidity: 79%. Dew Point: 19.0�C. 07:05 Ropuch Morning #koha 07:20 CGI076 I m using koha-3.00.04_fixed on debian, when I want to import and save any record from z3950 search 07:22 CGI076 It show ' cant save this record because the following field aren't filled: *ta942 subfield c koha [defualt] item in tab 9 07:22 CGI076 can any one help me? 07:27 Amit heya nicomo, Ropuch 07:40 nicomo hi Amit 07:49 CGI076 how can I solve this problem 07:49 CGI076 ? 08:42 CGI605 I asked Question, can any body help me....? 09:18 nicomo CGI605: I guess you have to either fill in this field 09:18 nicomo orelse go to admin > MARC framework > edit the subfield > not mandatory 09:20 CGI605 nicomo: how can I fill this one? there is no value in combo box 09:21 CGI605 I want to only import and save record via z3950 09:21 nicomo ok, then make the subfield not mandatory 09:22 nicomo if you want to fill the field and it's a dropbox 09:22 nicomo in the framework it should be linked to an Authorized Value list 09:23 nicomo populating the dropbox 09:43 CGI605 nicomo: there is not mandatory selected, still it show problem 09:44 nicomo sure you're checking the right bibliographic framework? i.e. cataloging with default and looking default framework in admin? 09:47 CGI605 nicomo: Im not getting 09:48 CGI605 Im in Marc Bibliographic framework 09:48 nicomo you should have at least a Default framework 09:48 nicomo admin/biblio_framework.pl 09:49 nicomo then admin/marctagstructure.pl?frameworkcode= 09:49 CGI605 Im not still getting 09:49 nicomo loook for the field that causes the problem, e.g. 942 09:49 CGI605 plz tell me easy steps as Im new 09:50 nicomo go to /admin/marc_subfields_structure.pl?tagfield=942&frameworkcode= 09:50 nicomo you should see the subfields for this 942 field 09:56 CGI605 Yeah I m there and there is not mandatory field 09:57 CGI605 error was in 942 in c c 10:07 nicomo CGI605: no further idea then, i don't know 10:13 CGI605 tag 942 sub field c koha [defualt] item ty in tab tab 9 12:56 chris_n good morning 12:57 jwagner Good morning chris_n 13:12 nengard morning all 13:16 jdavidb Hi, nengard! :) 13:17 nengard how goes it? 13:19 jdavidb so far, so good. The caffeine hasn't kicked in quite yet, so ask again later. :/ 13:21 nengard hehe 14:38 CGI113 hi 14:48 * owen tries to change Ubuntu's system date so he can check some books out yesterday 14:53 Ropuch date -s? 14:57 owen Didn't work, not sure why 15:01 owen Never mind, worked that time. 15:01 Ropuch sudo date +%Y%m%d -s "20081128" 15:01 Ropuch ropuch@bagno:~$ date 15:02 Ropuch pi�, 28 lis 2008, 00:00:02 CET 15:02 Ropuch But it reminds unchanged in gnome systray clock 15:16 someone so... ive got an issue while importing a MARC record. the marc record has ~3300 titles, and koha has, as far as i can tell, stopped trying to import at the 25th entry 15:16 someone it still says "Status staging" 15:16 someone but inside of "Manage Staged MARC Records › Batch 1 ", it only lists 25 titles 15:17 someone its been running for uh. 10ish hours? 15:17 owen It should take a few minutes. 15:17 owen I would guess that something in that marc file is tripping it up. 15:21 someoneagain so apparently my laptop doesnt like running on 1% battery for any sustained amount of time 15:22 someoneagain live and learn 15:22 someoneagain so yeah, initially all of our book information was just entered into a 5 column excel spreadsheet... 15:24 someoneagain used MarcEdit to convert that data to MARC. i know nothing about MARC21 format but the creator of MarcEdit was nice enough to supply me with the information that was applicable to our excel spreadsheet layout: Field 0: 035$a = proprietary book number, Field 1: 090$a = LC classification number, Field 2: 260$c = Publication date, Field 3: 100$a; indicators: 10 = Author, Field 4: 245$a; indicators: 10 = Title 15:25 someoneagain i guess my question is, is there any particular place on the server i should be looking for detailed information on what is stopping the process from importing the data from the 26th record? (if indeed i am correct for assuming the 26th record is in error, seeing as how the site only shows me details of the imported records going to the 25th record) 15:31 nengard Your error log might have something in it 15:32 nengard that said, you're probably missing a required field of some sort - but I've never used MarcEdit so I dont know for sure how to help you there 15:32 someoneagain ive checked /var/log/koha/koha-error_log and koha-opac-error_log but neither seem to have anything regarding the importing of the MARC file 15:33 nengard this may help: http://koha.org/documentation/tutorial/using-marcedit 15:33 someoneagain how about this, is it possible to completely cancel the import process and abandon any changes that would otherwise have been imported after the staging 15:33 nengard I'm not the best person to talk to about server issues - i always have to ask to be reminded how to find the error log :) hehe 15:33 someoneagain so that i can try it all over again with a smaller MARC file? 15:34 nengard hmmm - I'm sure you could - but I don't know what command to use 15:34 someoneagain well at any rate thanks for the link, i will definitely read through it ( i know next to nothing about MARC so this should help) 15:36 owen Lots of lurkers here, not many helpers. 15:36 owen nengard: Are you still having trouble with bugzilla today? 15:36 someoneagain i can identify with that, even irl :) 15:36 nengard owen - nope 15:36 owen I don't have any problems accessing it, but it took about 12 hours for my last bugzilla emails to come through 15:37 nengard owen maybe the server needs a restart :) 15:38 moodaepo @wunder 56001 15:38 munin moodaepo: The current temperature in South on Monks, Mankato, Minnesota is -12.2�C (9:33 AM CST on January 12, 2010). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 88%. Dew Point: -13.0�C. Windchill: -19.0�C. Pressure: 30.33 in 1027.0 hPa (Rising). 15:50 someoneagain hrm, well, it has defnintely imported a ton more than 25 records. i just did a mysqldump of koha import_records and its a 3mb text file 16:33 chris_n @wunder 28334 16:33 munin chris_n: The current temperature in Dunn, North Carolina is 5.6�C (11:27 AM EST on January 12, 2010). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 16%. Dew Point: -18.0�C. Windchill: 3.0�C. Pressure: 29.83 in 1010.0 hPa (Rising). 16:34 chris_n wow... heatwave :-) 16:34 owen Hi chris_n 16:35 chris_n howdy owen 16:36 schuster someoneagain - dump is more than just marc. 16:38 schuster someoneagain - in MarcEdit you might run the MARCVALIDATOR from the menu on top to see if it finds any particular errors. You might also search for a few titles beyond the 25th one to see if they actually imported. Usually it shows the first 25 and there are numbers at the bottom of the screen to go to the next batch of 25. 16:39 someoneagain yeah im thinking something was terribly wrong because i saw screenshots of someone elses koha installation at that particular screen, schuster 16:39 someoneagain and mine didnt have those numbers to go to different pages 16:39 someoneagain so i just nuked the old koha database and recreated it in mysql, and rm -rf'd the entire koha installed directory, im rebuilding it now 16:40 someoneagain im sort of in the dark when it comes to looking at marc files, i dont really know what im supposed to be expecting to see, but ill definitely try that marc validator. im breaking the 3000 line excel spreadsheet into smaller chunks to try doing test imports of smaller amounts at a time 16:42 brendan owen that last patch for bug 4035 - that working ok for you? 16:42 schuster How big is your marc file? 16:42 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4035 major, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard@myacpl.org, ASSIGNED, Today's checkouts grouped with previous checkouts 16:43 someoneagain it was about 800K 16:44 owen brendan: I tested that patch on HEAD, and as far as I can tell it fixes the problem. 16:44 brendan cool great - I'm just getting a chance to look at that. I think I'll give it a shot :) 16:46 someoneagain the guy that wrote MarcEdit told me that based on my excel file, this is how i should probably map the fields when using the delimited text translator Field 3: 100$a; indicators: 10 = Author Field 4: 245$a; indicators: 10 = Title 16:46 someoneagain but to be honest i really didnt follow him on that, as far as the 'indicators 10=' part 16:52 someoneagain hrm, yeah.. i guess that part is important because marcvalidator is showing errors only on those two particular fields 16:54 owen nengard: Can I ask if you remember a bug report for a particular problem? 16:55 nengard you can ask :) 16:56 owen Here's the bug: Check in an item at Branch A which is on hold for a patron at Branch B. Confirm the transfer. 16:57 owen Then check it in again: You get two confirmation dialogs: One which says transfer, one which doesn't. 16:57 nengard yeah - i think i saw that bug - and it ididn't used to do that .. so it's a new one ... let me see what i can find 17:00 nengard owen - i'm not having much luck ... 17:01 owen Yeah, me neither. I guess I'll submit a new report and wait for someone to mark it as a duplicate. 17:01 nengard not seeing it in my emails or in the bugs db 17:02 nengard maybe you need to report it :) 17:10 owen Bug 4040 17:10 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4040 normal, P5, ---, gmcharlt@gmail.com, NEW, Checking in an already confirmed on-hold item results in duplicate dialogs 17:25 collum owen: are you thinking of bug 3345 17:25 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3345 normal, P5, ---, gmcharlt@gmail.com, NEW, Return All items on patron detail does not initiate transfer of holds 17:25 owen collum: No, that's different 17:25 collum OK 17:33 * owen sees bugzilla emails trickling in from hours ago 17:53 someoneagain anyone ever seen this when running make test? 17:53 someoneagain t/Dates.t (Wstat: 65280 Tests: 135 Failed: 9) Failed tests: 127-135 Non-zero exit status: 255 Parse errors: Bad plan. You planned 126 tests but ran 135. Files=21, Tests=198, 11 wallclock secs ( 0.28 usr 0.06 sys + 5.67 cusr 0.84 csys = 6.85 CPU) Result: FAIL Failed 1/21 test programs. 9/198 subtests failed. make: *** [test_dynamic] Error 255 18:01 chris_n atz++ # death to EXPR 18:46 owen death to EXPR = death to the 126 instances currently found in the templates 18:48 liz-nekls what, you didn't need more to do? 18:48 chris owen: dont worry about it 18:49 chris H::T::P is gone soon anyway 18:49 chris to be replaced with TT (i have about half the opac done) 18:49 chris which actually does what EXPR is supposed to do, but properly 18:50 owen chris: Is there a TT for dummies that would help me understand what we're switching to? 18:51 chris sure is 18:51 liz-nekls yes, I am interested in that as well 18:51 chris the docs are about 10 million times better 18:52 chris http://template-toolkit.org/docs/manual/Intro.html 18:53 brendan chris - you still at home or at work yet? 18:53 Ropuch *bookmarked* 18:53 Ropuch Hi chris, brendan, owen 18:53 brendan hi Ropuch 18:55 chris owen: http://git.workbuffer.org/cgi-bin/gitweb.cgi?p=koha.git;a=blob;f=koha-tmpl/opac-tmpl/prog/en/includes/doc-head-close.inc;h=210d971d186ed23e5bf92d6243d14e615510fb7a;hb=0874d01782b22badd885febdf732409bf178a292 18:55 chris in the koha context 18:55 chris brendan: still at home 10 mins til bus 19:04 JeremyLC Can I check a single item to multiple borrowers simultaneously? 19:05 owen No 19:05 owen Why would you want to? 19:05 JeremyLC because we already do 19:05 JeremyLC Our patrons get credit for time spent using our materials 19:05 JeremyLC some things, notably movies (for language learning), can be shared 19:06 owen Interesting. Does that mean your library software integrates with some kind of credit-tracking software? 19:06 liz-nekls more to the point... wht is your current library software 19:06 JeremyLC we're a University language lab, credit doesn't apply 19:07 owen You just said patrons get credit 19:07 JeremyLC our current software is an abomination that was grown internally using PHP and apache (I did not write it) 19:08 liz-nekls Ahhhh 19:08 JeremyLC right, course credit. Their profs. say 'spend x hours/week' in the lab', our software tracks what they check out and use, and how long they had it 19:09 JeremyLC I already know that hourly circulation is not in Koha, but I'm capable of adding that (and, if uni. legal clears it, contributing it back to the project) 19:10 JeremyLC I've been looking through the documentation regarding circulation to try find the answer to the question I just asked (and got answered, thanks) 19:10 owen Just my opinion, but it sounds like tracking these hours is something outside the realm of what Koha should be doing. 19:11 JeremyLC well, for the circulation, I would just change from using date to datetime when recording issues 19:12 JeremyLC (and figuring due dates/times) 19:12 JeremyLC I know I'm not the only one who needed to do that, as I have researched it 19:12 JeremyLC I know the LibLime even implemented such a thing for one of their customers 19:13 JeremyLC (Our budget isn't really big enough to deal with them) 19:13 owen Hourly loans are still within the paradigm of "one item one patron" 19:14 JeremyLC yes 19:14 owen I'm not sure how you break out of that without breaking a lot of other things 19:14 JeremyLC I haven't looked at what I would need to do for 'one item many patrons' 19:15 JeremyLC (re: LibLime, I meant the hourly circulation) 19:15 owen To me this sounds like a whole new module, separate from regular circulation. 19:17 JeremyLC yuck 19:17 Ropuch Hm 19:18 Ropuch Items can have multiple holds 19:19 Ropuch But owen is right, it should be (and would be easier to implement) separate from circ 19:21 Ropuch Bah, now I'm thinking how to do it instead od translating ;-P 19:21 JeremyLC sorry 19:21 Ropuch ;> 19:21 JeremyLC It sounds like I may need to investigate alternatives, then 19:22 owen JeremyLC: A question to ask yourself is whether Koha offers enough benefits aside from this issue to make it worth using 19:22 someoneagain when i go to administration, Libraries and Groups , it wont let me delete franklin, midway, pleasant valley or springfield. it says 'library deleted', but they remain on the page 19:23 JeremyLC I'll have to investigate some more before I can decide that 19:23 JeremyLC It is very powerful, and would be very nice for us to use 19:24 JeremyLC however, these two features are vital 19:25 Ropuch JeremyLC: you can always add some custom buttons to circ templates and call some exterior app, passing some koha-related stuff to it 19:25 JeremyLC I specifically want to avoid that sort of thing 19:25 Ropuch :) 19:26 JeremyLC I'm a technical person in a very non-technical dept 19:26 someoneagain JeremyLC: when you say LibLime, are you referring to Evergreen? 19:26 owen LibLime != Evergreen 19:26 owen LibLime = a Koha support vendor 19:26 someoneagain Ah 19:26 JeremyLC (eng. degree working in foreign lang) I want them to be able to operate without me when I eventually move one 19:26 JeremyLC er, move on 19:27 owen someoneagain: LibLime offers its customers a proprietary fork of Koha which includes some features (like hourly loans) not in the open source version 19:27 JeremyLC I want to leave as little in-house software as possible, and good documentation for what is here 19:28 JeremyLC I would like my successors to be able to do server updates and upgrades without having to wonder what version of which tool I used, an whether newer versions will break something 19:32 someoneagain thats kinda uh 19:32 someoneagain odd sounding 19:32 JeremyLC not if you've had to deal with our existing system 19:32 someoneagain but since im ignorant to all of this ill just keep silent so that my ignorance shows less :D 19:32 someoneagain no, not you, i was talking to owen 19:32 Ropuch sounds reasonable to me 19:32 JeremyLC there is 0 documentation 19:32 someoneagain everything you said was pretty much over my head :) 19:33 JeremyLC no configuration interface either, to do almost any configuring I have to log into phpmyadmin and edit the DB directly 19:55 chris hourly loans is easy 19:55 chris multiple borrowers .. not so much 19:55 JeremyLC I got that impression 19:56 chris you could ask Liblime to release the code, they do trumpet themselves as teh global leader in open source ... ask them to put their code where their mouth is 19:56 chris otherwise someone will just have to re do it 19:57 chris which isnt hard, but a waste of time and effort 19:57 JeremyLC I could implement hourly loans myself, even using the RFC in the 3.2 docs, but the multiple borrowers issue may be beyond my available time (and talents) 19:58 chris it's something that will require major changes 19:58 chris and really is probably outside the scope of koha 19:58 chris you can use koha as a materials tracking tool ... but bending it that far .. 19:58 chris you are probably best off using an LDAP backend, sharing data between koha and a materials tracking tool 19:59 chris (room bookings, etc) 19:59 JeremyLC we have a campus wide LDAP with all our student info in it (I wrote a MOODLE plugin to use it for auto-enrolments and account creation) 20:01 chris then what i would look at doing is using a materials tracking tool that can talk LDAP to deal with things like shared movies 20:01 chris or, like owen said, make a separate module for Koha 20:03 chris it would bust to much stuff trying to wedge that into regular circulation 20:09 owen Is the "maxreserves" system preference deprecated? 20:10 chris i think so 20:10 chris its replaced with the new smart rules stuff 20:10 owen In request.pl : if ( $number_reserves > C4::Context->preference('maxreserves') ) { 20:11 chris hmmm, you might want to email koha-devel/biblibre ... imho, that should go away for 3.2 20:12 owen I'm trying to figure out what I can't place holds and that's what I ran across. 20:12 chris actually 2 secs 20:12 chris i did a bugfix for that already 20:14 chris bug3785 20:14 chris http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3785 20:14 munin 04Bug 3785: critical, PATCH-Sent, ---, chris@bigballofwax.co.nz, ASSIGNED, New Install, no maxreserves setting, OPAC holds fail 20:15 owen So a similar change needs to be made to request.pl? 20:15 chris *nod* 20:16 chris something like this 20:16 someoneagain has this bug reopened? 20:16 someoneagain http://lists.katipo.co.nz/public/koha/2009-June/018995.html 20:16 chris if ( C4::Context->preference('maxreserves') && $number_reserves > C4::Context->preference('maxreserves') ) { 20:16 chris can you try that own 20:16 chris owen too 20:16 someoneagain when i try to place a hold i get the same error that guy got, 20:16 someoneagain brb 20:17 chris what version of koha someoneagain 20:24 owen So chris it looks like there is no check of the holds allowed count as set by smart-rules.pl 20:25 owen All we've got is maxreserves, and that's now "if you've got maxreserves set" 20:26 chris yeah there is in the opac 20:26 chris hmm or not 20:26 chris yeah, i think we need to ask biblibre .. it might be there are some patches waiting to be pushed 20:27 * owen 's head hurts from all the patches waiting to be pushed 20:27 chris yeah, i wonder if i can un nominate myself for 3.4 hehe 20:28 owen No!!! 20:28 owen Not unless you want me to grab your ankle and not let go 20:28 chris hehe 20:29 jwagner And for the rest of us to grab you as well..... 20:29 chris was worth a shot :) 20:33 someoneagain chris: 3.00.02.012 20:34 chris ahh thats a pretty old version 20:34 someoneagain doh.... i just downloaded it and installed today 20:34 someoneagain should i have grabbed 3.2? 20:34 chris where did you get it from? 20:34 someoneagain the main site 20:34 chris damnit 20:34 chris now i have to fight the urge to rant about liblime again 20:34 someoneagain sec let me make sure, i might be trippin 20:34 chris urge suppressed 20:35 chris_n hehe 20:35 chris http://download.koha.org/ 20:35 chris you want http://download.koha.org/koha-3.00.05.tar.gz 20:35 chris thats the latest stable release 20:35 someoneagain http://download.koha.org/koha-3.00.02.tar.gz 20:35 someoneagain is the link i used on their site 20:35 chris dont ask why that isnt linked from the main site 20:35 chris yeah, its wrong, out of date by months and .... 20:36 * chris stops himself 20:36 chris short version is, 3.00.05 is the version you want 20:36 someoneagain hmmmm... can i do an in place upgrade or do i have to redo everything? like delete and recreate the mysql db, etc? 20:36 chris you can do an upgrade 20:36 chris download the new version 20:36 someoneagain k :| im skird but ill try 20:36 chris unpack it 20:36 chris perl Makefile.PL --prev-install-log /path/to/koha-install-log 20:37 chris (the previous install log will be in your 3.00.02 unpacked dir) 20:37 * chris_n accidentally updates the perl on his production server 20:38 chris_n and now has to rebuild most of the koha deps 20:38 chris_n >:-( 20:38 chris someoneagain: probably in the misc dir 20:39 chris and then after that, make, make test, make install 20:39 someoneagain oh wow, 91meg 20:39 chris yeah lot more languages translated 20:39 someoneagain so this might also explain why make test was failing 20:39 someoneagain (oldversion) 20:39 chris *nod* 20:40 chris chris_n: :( 20:41 chris_n yeah, it appears that a portion of the perl modules are installed in /usr/local/share/perl/version_number/module 20:42 chris that'd be the cpan'd ones 20:42 * chris_n figures there is some obscure reason for not installing them all in the same place 20:42 chris thats why .debs win 20:42 chris cos when you upgrade perl it upgrades all the perl related .debs too 20:42 chris_n sometimes the .debs are not the latest 20:42 chris_n ahh 21:02 chris_n bbl 21:04 owen bye all 21:07 someoneagain hello there richard 21:07 someoneagain im someone 21:07 someoneagain again 21:07 * someoneagain beams 21:33 JeremyLC My boss suggested an interesting solution to me. We could suffix a patron number to our barcodes 21:34 JeremyLC So if abcd123 is the code for "Blue Angel", then abcd123-patron2 could be for the second person to simultaneously check out 21:35 chris so have multiple items ? 21:35 JeremyLC yes 21:35 chris its hacky, but it'd work :) 21:35 JeremyLC it gets a bit complex, though, when you consider that we sometimes have multiple physical copies of the same item 21:40 JeremyLC it would save a lot of coding, though. 21:59 someoneagain gah, the update installer seems to have used a variable quite literally 21:59 someoneagain Installing /data/koha-3.00.05/__INSTALL_BASE__/man/man3/misc::translator::tmpl_process3.3pm 22:00 chris hlj 22:00 chris whoops 22:01 chris it might have been the wrong install-log .. you might need to see if there is another one 22:01 chris (no harm no foul, you can just get rid of /data/koha-3.00.05/__INSTALL_BASE__/ ) 22:02 chris_n2 arghhh 22:02 chris still stuck in perl upgrade? 22:02 chris_n2 so it appears that my @INC has been screwed up 22:03 chris_n2 perl did not upgrade afaict 22:03 chris ahh 22:03 chris_n2 but @INC has pathing in it to 5.10.1 22:03 chris_n2 and some pathing from my dev box as well 22:03 * chris_n2 scratches his head 22:03 chris_n2 so who is responsible for setting the default @INC? 22:04 chris pass 22:04 * chris_n2 winces 22:05 chris its not a .bashrc or .bash_profile or something else setting it for you? 22:08 someoneagain oh snap 22:08 someoneagain you're right chris 22:08 someoneagain gah now ive got to build this all over again lol. poor pseudoserver is getting overworked 22:09 chris heh 22:09 schuster by all... Hopefully tonight I can finish setting up my testing box for 3.2!!! You might hear from me later! 22:10 someoneagain do i need to make clean before reruning make? 22:10 chris good luck schuster 22:11 chris someoneagain: hmm might be safest 22:11 someoneagain k 22:30 chris_n2 stupid chatzilla 22:54 chris_n2 so much for helpful hints from the folks at #perl and #perl-help 22:56 someoneagain try undernet 22:57 someoneagain and cross your fingers you find the server with the most users still on it after the netsplits 23:25 moodaepo @wunder 56001 23:25 munin moodaepo: The current temperature in South on Monks, Mankato, Minnesota is -8.3�C (5:18 PM CST on January 12, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 86%. Dew Point: -10.0�C. Windchill: -15.0�C. Pressure: 30.09 in 1018.8 hPa (Rising). 23:43 chris_n2 @wunder 28334 23:43 munin chris_n2: The current temperature in Dunn, North Carolina is 0.9�C (6:37 PM EST on January 12, 2010). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 20%. Dew Point: -20.0�C. Windchill: 1.0�C. Pressure: 29.83 in 1010.0 hPa (Rising). 23:44 someoneagain how can i pull up a full list of all users and delete the default ones that came with the program? 23:44 someoneagain er, patrons rather 23:48 chris_n2 heya pianohackr|work 23:48 pianohackr|work hi, chris_n2 23:48 pianohackr|work someoneagain: In the patrons section, you can step through them by the first letter of their last name 23:48 pianohackr|work labor intensive, but it works 23:49 someoneagain k 23:49 someoneagain thanks 23:49 someoneagain when i do a search im getting this error. ideas? 23:49 chris_n2 someoneagain: unless you opted to load the sample borrower data, there should be no patrons by default 23:49 someoneagain hmm. doh. thats probably what i did. i just selected a bunch of the samples without really knowing what they were. 23:50 someoneagain [Tue Jan 12 11:51:27 2010] [error] [client 10.0.2.154] [Tue Jan 12 11:51:27 2010] opac-search.pl: "my" variable $content_type masks earlier declaration in same scope at /data/koha/opac/cgi-bin/opac/opac-search.pl line 586., referer: http://library/cgi-bin/koha/opac-search.pl?q=white 23:51 chris_n2 someoneagain: you can open a mysql prompt and drop and recreate the database; then run the webinstaller again 23:51 chris_n2 that will probably be faster 23:52 someoneagain chris_n2: you are referring to removing the users, and not referring to the error above, right? 23:52 chris_n2 correct 23:53 someoneagain k ill probably do that... and while im at it i wont add thet default librarys either because i cant delete them :| 23:54 chris_n2 what version are you using 23:55 someoneagain latest... just reinstalled... uh it ends in 05 23:55 someoneagain not 02 23:56 someoneagain hmm i dont know what to do christ 23:56 someoneagain err chris :\ 23:56 someoneagain zebra just got done indexing 3300 titles i imported 23:56 chris_n2 so 3.0.5 23:57 someoneagain so if i drop the db and make it anew, ill have to import again... will i have to clear the zebra index's also? 23:57 chris_n2 yeah, if you drop the db, you will have to reindex zebra 23:57 someoneagain i know _nothing_ about zebra. its like voodoo or something 23:57 someoneagain ugh 23:57 chris_n2 just rebuild_zebra.pl -r -v -a -b 23:58 someoneagain thanks 23:58 chris_n2 look in the misc/migration_tools subdir 23:59 chris_n2 but you'll have to re-import your records into the new db