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* chris_n2 |
's Koha on Win32 work stops being fun |
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so I'm off to sleep |
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schuster |
anybody hanging out and awake? |
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schuster |
chris_n gave me a couple of clues for my libgdm-dev issue with XML-LibXSLT but I'm not able to apt-get libgdm-dev it tell sme invalid operation libgdm-dev or even lgdbm. |
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When I run the Makefile.PL int he XML-LibXSLT-1.70... directory it tells me it can't find -lgdbm and errors out. suggestions? |
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schuster |
When I run the make to install koha it tells me I don't have prerequisite XML::LibXSLT 1.59 so can't figure out how to get this one going. |
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schuster |
thanks talk to ya all tomorrow! |
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Amit |
heya nicomo |
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Amit |
@wunder New Delhi India |
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Amit: The current temperature in New Delhi, India is 9.0�C (11:30 AM IST on January 11, 2010). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 82%. Dew Point: 6.0�C. Windchill: 8.0�C. Pressure: 30.12 in 1020 hPa (Falling). |
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nicomo |
hi Amit |
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chris |
@later tell schuster apt-get install libgdm-dev |
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munin |
chris: The operation succeeded. |
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chris |
hi nicomo |
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nicomo |
hi chris |
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* chris |
is working on his presentation for the education mini-conf as part of lca2010 |
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Ropuch |
Morning #koha |
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chris |
hi Ropuch |
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Ropuch |
Hi chris |
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chris |
paul_p: http://blog.bigballofwax.co.nz[…]oha-benchmarking/ |
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imp |
chris: can i download the benchmarkscript somewhere? |
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chris |
its in the git repo |
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chris |
in misc/load_testing |
| 08:52 |
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paul_p |
chris: you write "seems fine under mod_perl", but i'm sure there is a major problem is you have multiple Koha on your server ! (unless you use a specific apache configuration you'll told me ;-) ) |
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chris |
no, you just have to be careful with environment variables |
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imp |
chris: thanks |
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chris |
imp: you will have to tweak it some (change the user:password etc) |
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imp |
yeah, cookiejar |
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chris |
paul_p: or they will all end up using the same koha_conf |
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chris |
the main worry is that i bet it leaks ram, because there are some circular dependencies |
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imp |
meeeh, somebody bricked the forwarding for my koha... |
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chris |
paul_p: the way i get round it is is a different startup.pl for each virtualhost |
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paul_p |
ok, so each library has his own "mod_perl" (or something like that) |
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chris |
same apache2 same mod_perl, different variables (ie using different koha_conf) |
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chris |
it still needs a lot of testing and there will need to be work done fixing circular dependencies before we can use it in production |
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Peach |
hi all |
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chris |
hi Peach |
| 09:13 |
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Peach |
:) I'm new here. Tried several times to get in but I used the web-based one and couldn't see any messages I typed... |
| 09:13 |
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Peach |
so happy I can now see them!! |
| 09:14 |
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Peach |
Um... I have a question about upgrading koha. |
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chris |
fire away |
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Peach |
I just installed koha-dev last week. I wonder what approach I should take when the new version of koha comes out. |
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chris |
koha-dev ? |
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Peach |
i mean the dev install, sorry |
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chris |
from which branch? |
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Peach |
i didn't use git |
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Peach |
i downloaded the tarball from koha website |
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chris |
ahh well then you dont have a real dev install :) |
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Peach |
oh - -" |
| 09:17 |
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Peach |
well i never used git and actually quite new to ubuntu |
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chris |
dev install is meant for installing from git |
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Peach |
i see |
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chris |
(where you dont need to upgrade) |
| 09:19 |
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Peach |
ah... i see but i don't know if the modifications i made are okay to be up there |
| 09:19 |
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Peach |
oh... ok ok i just update not commit |
| 09:19 |
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Peach |
hmm... so i should learn how to use git then |
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chris |
you commit too :) |
| 09:19 |
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chris |
git is a distributed version system |
| 09:20 |
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chris |
so everyone has a repo |
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Peach |
- -" the change might not be clean... |
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chris |
the change is local |
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chris |
committing just keeps it in your repo |
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chris |
its not like cvs or svn |
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chris |
you have to send a patch, if you want it to go in the main repo (for others to use) |
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Peach |
oh i get the picture now. thanks a lot :) |
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hi #koha |
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chris |
hiya kf |
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Peach |
hi kdf |
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kf |
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kf |
hi chris and Peach |
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Amit |
heya kf |
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hi Amit |
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Nate |
Hello Everyone |
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jwagner |
Mornin' |
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g'morning |
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@wunder 28334 |
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chris_n: The current temperature in Dunn, North Carolina is -6.1�C (8:09 AM EST on January 11, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 67%. Dew Point: -11.0�C. Windchill: -6.0�C. Pressure: 29.91 in 1012.8 hPa (Steady). |
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chris_n |
heya owen, jdavidb |
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jdavidb |
howdy. |
| 14:10 |
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owen |
Hi |
| 14:13 |
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* jdavidb |
suggests that we just give Monday-Thursday a miss this week, and skip right to Friday. |
| 14:13 |
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jwagner |
I have a better idea. Let's skip to Saturday. |
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* magnus |
agrees |
| 14:14 |
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owen |
But I have three kids. Where will I sleep if not at work? |
| 14:14 |
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jwagner |
The public library? (*grin*) |
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paul_p |
owen: you have 3 kids ? that's one more than what I thought. there is a new baby with the new year ? |
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owen |
Hang on... |
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* owen |
counts on his fingers |
| 14:16 |
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owen |
Yes, 3! |
| 14:16 |
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owen |
Petra was born in May 2009 |
| 14:16 |
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paul_p |
hello jdavidb & chris_n & Nate & jwagner & schuster, and anyone else on #koha |
| 14:16 |
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jwagner |
Good morning paul_p |
| 14:17 |
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chris_n |
howdy paul_p |
| 14:17 |
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paul_p |
owen: I think I knew this one. I should have missed the 2nd one. Or maybe i become too old & have memory problems (just reached 42 this week end ;-) ) |
| 14:17 |
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schuster |
Hey all. owen was very nervous to attend Kohacon2009 due to baby on the way! |
| 14:18 |
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owen |
That's right, I almost forgot |
| 14:18 |
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owen |
The middle one, Thatcher, was born 3 years ago next week |
| 14:18 |
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jdavidb |
paul, you're not old enough to have memory problems. If you are, I should be worried; I'll be 42 in June. |
| 14:19 |
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paul_p |
jdavidb: :D |
| 14:19 |
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schuster |
memory leaks... Can I get more? |
| 14:19 |
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schuster |
I'll be 41 in May... |
| 14:19 |
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* chris_n |
will also be 41 in May |
| 14:19 |
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chris_n |
what day schuster? |
| 14:20 |
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jwagner |
I have you all beat, but I'm not saying by how much :-) |
| 14:20 |
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paul_p |
today /me investigates some resumes for hiring a new developer... a very very very good one, but very very very expensive too... will probably investigate a very good one, for a good -including for us- salary ;-) |
| 14:21 |
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schuster |
cinco de mayo! May 5th |
| 14:21 |
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chris_n |
you got me beat... I'm on the 17th |
| 14:21 |
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schuster |
Drat I hate being the oldest! Even though I'm the youngest of 8 in my family! |
| 14:21 |
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chris_n |
and the guy in the next office to me is on the 19th... he'll be 41 this year as well |
| 14:22 |
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schuster |
Good Catholic parents in the cold Minnesota weather! |
| 14:22 |
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schuster |
Paul_p good luck!!! Good Developers++++ |
| 14:22 |
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owen |
A belated happy birthday to you paul_p ! |
| 14:23 |
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jwagner |
Yes, happy birthday paul_p! |
| 14:23 |
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paul_p |
ahhh... enfin... /me though noone would understand I was waiting for a happy birthday :D |
| 14:23 |
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jwagner |
paul_p, it's still early in the morning here. Subtle cues are wasted.... |
| 14:24 |
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paul_p |
is was not very happy in fact: my wife bought me gift, and it was stolen while she was looking somewhere else in the mall. So no new watch... |
| 14:24 |
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owen |
:O |
| 14:24 |
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magnus |
congrats, paul_p! |
| 14:25 |
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paul_p |
fortunatly: I missed ALL birthday of my 4 childrens last year, so they promised "we won't be there for your dad", but in fact, they stayed at home, and we eated a good cake ;-) |
| 14:26 |
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schuster |
What day Paul? My youngest had a birthday on Jan 6th... He is now 5. We had a lego party at our house this weekend 15 5 year olds! ahhhh.... |
| 14:26 |
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paul_p |
schuster: jan, 9th |
| 14:26 |
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schuster |
Happy Happy Birthday oh Happy happy day... |
| 14:37 |
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kf |
happy birthday paul_p |
| 14:49 |
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chris_n |
ok git gurus... |
| 14:49 |
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chris_n |
any thoughts on going back and splitting up a commit made, say, 50 commits ago? |
| 14:50 |
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chris_n |
ie. the commit contains changes to two files, but there should have been a commit made for each file separately |
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chris_n |
found the answer here: http://codeutopia.net/blog/200[…]tive-rebase-tips/ |
| 15:05 |
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chris_n |
very cool info |
| 15:14 |
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owen |
If the ReturnToShelvingCart system preference is on, how and when does the "CART" location go away? |
| 15:16 |
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jwagner |
owen, see the cron script shelf_to_cart.pl -- one of the parameters is how long (in hours) items should stay on the cart. After that, they revert to their "real" locations. |
| 15:16 |
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owen |
Okay, thanks. |
| 15:17 |
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owen |
I can see the reaction of the shelving flunkies now: "Meh, no hurry, it'll say 'cart' for another 10 minutes." |
| 15:17 |
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jwagner |
The script itself should probably be run at least once an hour. |
| 15:19 |
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owen |
Oooh, this circ error message is new to me: http://zivotdesign.com/example[…]error-message.png |
| 15:22 |
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jwagner |
owen, I've seen that when there is some "condition" on a patron checkout but the message isn't displaying. (Like too much $$ owed, other blocks, etc.) |
| 15:22 |
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jwagner |
Buggy code somewhere about eligibility for checkout. |
| 15:30 |
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owen |
Bug 4035 is the bug that keeps on bugging. It reappears every time Koha gets a significant upgrade. |
| 15:30 |
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munin |
Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4035 major, P5, ---, gmcharlt gmail.com, NEW, Today's checkouts grouped with previous checkouts |
| 15:43 |
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owen |
USERBLOCKEDREMAINING |
| 15:43 |
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owen |
That's the condition that the template isn't displaying an error message for jwagner |
| 15:44 |
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owen |
The comment in Circulation.pm says " ## remaining overdue documents" |
| 15:44 |
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owen |
...except I don't have any overdues |
| 15:44 |
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jwagner |
owen, current head? |
| 15:52 |
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owen |
Yes |
| 15:53 |
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owen |
I see that USERBLOCKEDOVERDUE is also not accounted for in the template |
| 15:55 |
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chris_n |
@seen gmcharlt |
| 15:55 |
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munin |
chris_n: gmcharlt was last seen in #koha 6 days, 2 hours, 48 minutes, and 2 seconds ago: <gmcharlt> at LL, I mean |
| 15:55 |
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chris_n |
gmcharlt: ping |
| 15:55 |
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gmcharlt |
chris_n: pong |
| 15:55 |
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chris_n |
heya gmcharlt |
| 15:56 |
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chris_n |
I'll be submitting a pull req for the new patron card creator today or tomorrow |
| 15:56 |
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gmcharlt |
chris_n: cool |
| 15:56 |
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* chris_n |
is busy squashing 90 commits now |
| 16:09 |
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paul_p |
hi gmcharlt. How are you ? |
| 16:09 |
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gmcharlt |
paul_p: ok, how are you? |
| 16:09 |
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paul_p |
fine, thanks (although a little bit old -see below ;-) - ) |
| 16:10 |
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paul_p |
did I miss something, or I didn't see any new push from you since thanksgiving in git.koha.org ? |
| 16:11 |
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gmcharlt |
paul_p: I'm working another final push of stuff in the next day or two to make up the 3.2 alpha |
| 16:12 |
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paul_p |
gmcharlt++ |
| 16:12 |
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paul_p |
could you include all our patches (on git.biblibre.com) ? |
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gmcharlt |
paul_p: yep, I'll go through them |
| 16:26 |
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owen |
gmcharlt++ |
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| 16:35 |
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wizzyrea |
ok I'm losing my mind... where's the opacfooter preference? I'm looking in the opac and it is just... not... there |
| 16:35 |
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owen |
opaccredits |
| 16:35 |
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wizzyrea |
opac preferences, that is |
| 16:35 |
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wizzyrea |
OMG |
| 16:35 |
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wizzyrea |
owen, thanks |
| 16:35 |
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chris_n |
just now loosing your mind? |
| 16:35 |
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wizzyrea |
HAHAHA |
| 16:35 |
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owen |
Named so because someone wanted to be able to put their logo in the OPAC footer ;) |
| 16:36 |
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wizzyrea |
Ahh. Well it's 1. a dumb name and 2. confusing |
| 16:36 |
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wizzyrea |
:) |
| 16:36 |
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wizzyrea |
so there |
| 16:36 |
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* owen |
agrees |
| 16:38 |
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owen |
A question about something I'm seeing in my test install: item statuses on the search results page are not matching with what is on the detail page |
| 16:38 |
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owen |
The search results page says things are checked out which aren't. |
| 16:38 |
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wizzyrea |
are those items on hold? |
| 16:39 |
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wizzyrea |
on the hold shelf? |
| 16:39 |
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owen |
No. |
| 16:39 |
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wizzyrea |
no clue then |
| 16:39 |
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owen |
My test install has biblio records imported from our live system, but nothing from issues |
| 16:40 |
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wizzyrea |
weird |
| 16:40 |
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owen |
Where else would Koha be getting information about what was checked out if not from the issues table? |
| 16:41 |
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owen |
I nulled-out items.onloan right after importing. |
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owen |
Hi nengard |
| 16:45 |
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nengard |
hiya |
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| 16:50 |
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owen |
Where does the staff client's search results page get its item status information? |
| 16:56 |
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owen |
my @fields = $marcrecord->field($itemtag); |
| 16:56 |
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owen |
Does that mean it's pulling from the MARCXML? |
| 16:56 |
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chris_n |
why do people insist on re-inventing the wheel? |
| 16:56 |
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chris_n |
http://www.librarytechnology.o[…]ytext.pl?RC=14456 |
| 16:57 |
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chris_n |
what a perfect waste of money imho |
| 16:57 |
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chris_n |
dump it into an already existing FOSS ILS |
| 16:57 |
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chris_n |
like Koha :-) |
| 16:57 |
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chris_n |
or even EG |
| 16:57 |
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* chris_n |
stops ranting now |
| 17:02 |
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owen |
I wonder if The Andrew W. Mellon Foundation knows that they rejected existing systems in favor of doing it themselves. |
| 17:04 |
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chris_n |
I told them so, but I don't think I speak loud enough for an organization that big to hear :-P |
| 17:05 |
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owen |
If the MARCXML data in biblioitems is out of sync with the data in items, how to get them in line? |
| 17:07 |
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chris_n |
owen: there is a comment here which mentions koha and eg: http://oleproject.org/overview/ |
| 17:07 |
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chris_n |
owen: I think there is a script for that |
| 17:08 |
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owen |
"One of the key motivations of this project is to be able to manage print and electronic collections equally, and for the most part, Koha and Evergreen are still based on traditional library systems focusing on print collections." |
| 17:08 |
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chris_n |
owen: see sync_items_in_marc_bib.pl |
| 17:09 |
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owen |
Thanks chris_n |
| 17:10 |
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owen |
In other words, "Koha doesn't quite do what we want, so we have to start over" ? |
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chris_n |
these guys strike me as a bit arrogant in their responses: http://oleproject.org/participants/ |
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owen |
This seems an odd question to me, from the overview comments: "Why doesn’t Koha circulation interoperate with Evergreen cataloguing for example?" |
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chris_n |
galen comments here: http://oleproject.org/get-involved/ |
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chris_n |
I commented here: http://oleproject.org/final-re[…]t-on-ole-project/ |
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* chris_n |
sighs and goes back to squashing commits |
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jwagner |
Wierd cataloging problem here. A user cataloged a title by hand, no import or z39.50. He filled in 440$v volume & number info, and apparently Koha filled in by itself a 440$9 RLIN link. The 440$9 was hidden from view; he can't have filled it in himself. Where did that value come from? There's no default value or link in the framework. |
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jwagner |
I un-hid the 440$9, but it won't let us delete that subfield. |
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wizzyrea |
O.o You squash commits? |
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* wizzyrea |
pouts |
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owen |
Why is that pout-making? |
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nengard |
anyone having trouble with bugs.koha.org? |
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nengard |
I can get the page to open but when I click 'New' it's going way way way way slow |
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owen |
It seems to be working for me okay nengard |
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nengard |
k - think maybe I'll restart and see how that goes |
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gmcharlt |
chris_n: ultimately, we'll all have to wait and see what OLE actually produces |
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gmcharlt |
meanwhile, Koha and Evergreen will continue to grow and push out features |
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chris_n |
gmcharlt: *nod* |
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wizzyrea |
text-transform: uppercase is my new nemesis |
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wizzyrea |
I hate it, I can't explain why |
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wizzyrea |
dk, that sounds like you're killing them off |
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wizzyrea |
poor little commits |
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wizzyrea |
I thought maybe it was a typo for squashing bugs |
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owen |
It's a git thing |
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wizzyrea |
ah |
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owen |
Commit one thing, commit another thing, then squash the two together so you can submit just one patch for both changes. |
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schuster |
jwagner - $9 I believe is actually a link to the authority record in Koha not really the RLIN number. I've seen that in my catalog when I export the entire database. |
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kf |
schuster: you are right |
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jwagner |
schuster, thanks, I'll take a look at that. |
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paul_p |
jwagner: schuster is right. |
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jwagner |
OK, any good way to tell it to stop making that link? |
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jwagner |
I don't see a link in the default framework to authorities. |
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schuster |
You don't want it to link to an authority record in Koha? jwagner? or you don't want it to export that? |
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jwagner |
The problem is that it shows the $9 in the OPAC as a clickable link. |
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jwagner |
Brute force approach would be to modify the template/XSLT, I suppose. |
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jwagner |
But it's confusing the users. |
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schuster |
Only if they look at MARC though and how many library patrons do you know who will be doing that...! |
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jwagner |
No, this was showing up in the regular title display page, like this: Series: . Vol. 31 No. 28 Link# |
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jwagner |
It was a live link that tried to do a series search on the number when you clicked it. |
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schuster |
my authority searches don't work right so can't help with that... |
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nengard |
has anyone used the FF offline circ plugin? I can't seem to get it save the item i'm trying to checkout and i'm wondering if my settings are wrong |
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schuster |
I have not nengard as I don't have 3.2 to test it against. |
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schuster |
yet. |
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nengard |
schuster - that's a good point - I didn't think about the fact that it might be a bug with 3.2 |
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nengard |
or a bug with the plugin against 3.2 |
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nengard |
I'll wait to document it then |
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schuster |
nengard do you not have 3.2? |
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nengard |
i do - and i can't get the plugin to work |
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schuster |
Talk to your boss' didn't that come out of BibLibre? |
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nengard |
I forget, but that's my next move to contact the author |
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nengard |
for all we know it's my computer :) |
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nengard |
or the settings I'm putting in |
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JeremyLC |
incidentally, have there been any updates on when 3.2 is due out? (The only thing I found on the official website said it was dues in Nov 2009) |
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chris |
JeremyLC: the release manager is hoping to do a final push of commits in the next few days, and an alpha release |
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chris |
we are a bit behind schedule due to the fact that we lost a chunk of momentum when a company decided to withdraw from the community and it's staff needed to find new work, getting back on track now though |
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JeremyLC |
Okay. I've been eagerly awaiting its release. It has (or should have) a feature we need to be able to use it at all |
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chris |
with this push of patches, we will hit 100 committers :) |
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chris |
what is the feature? |
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JeremyLC |
We need to track our checkouts by the minute, rather than by the date |
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JeremyLC |
we have a 4 hour max checkout time for students, and 1 week for profs. |
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JeremyLC |
Since we're a media lab, our students can get credit for their time spent here and we need to be able to track it |
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chris |
not sure that in is there, ill check for you, I think that was something liblime promised, then decided not to share |
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JeremyLC |
Oh, that may be an issue for us. (it was LibLime, IIRC) |
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chris |
most of those things, others have stepped up and implemented anyway, when it was clear the code was not coming |
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chris |
not sure if that is one of those |
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owen |
I'm pretty sure that feature was a LibLime promise. |
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* chris |
has to catch his bus, but will bbiab |
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JeremyLC |
I'm fairly certain we could do it in-house, but not fast enough to meet a looming deadline. |
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owen |
JeremyLC: "Hourly loans" is listed as one of the features of LibLime's proprietary version of Koha |
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JeremyLC |
I know, I have an EMail from Daniel Sweeney telling me they had it working, and that they were going to release it to the community |
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JeremyLC |
>:( |
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wizzyrea |
yea, they say that a log |
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wizzyrea |
lot* |
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JeremyLC |
They're welcome to do as they please, but it doesn't give me any incentive to do business with them |
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wizzyrea |
yea, I wouldn't get involved with them at this juncture |
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owen |
Maybe if we wait a little bit longer they'll release it. |
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JeremyLC |
It's a bit frustrating because I've been waiting since May (had other projects running, so not just sitting idle) |
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JeremyLC |
It looks to me like their pricing would be too much for us anyway |
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wizzyrea |
heh, you odn't have to talk to us about being frustrated with LL |
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JeremyLC |
I imagine not |
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wizzyrea |
because believe me, we understand |
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JeremyLC |
Of course, this leaves me in a bind, unless someone else already added hourly loans |
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nengard |
I haven't seen anyone else working on it |
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nengard |
:( |
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JeremyLC |
Well. I can look again at what it would take, but that may be a bit much for the time I have |
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nengard |
I understand |
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wizzyrea |
Dan doesn't work at LL anymroe |
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wizzyrea |
more* |
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JeremyLC |
Hmm.. |
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JeremyLC |
building git now, I'll grab the latest copy I can get and see what's there |
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nengard |
JeremyLC - you may also want to look at the BibLibre Community Branch |
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nengard |
it has some more than HEAD has |
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JeremyLC |
okay |
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JeremyLC |
koha-biblibre.git ? |
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Ropuch |
git clone git://git.koha.org/pub/scm/koha-biblibre.git whatever |
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Ropuch |
:) |
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JeremyLC |
yeah, I got it |
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JeremyLC |
are the newer versions any easier to install? |
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JeremyLC |
when I first tried 3.0 it was brutal |
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Ropuch |
Hm |
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owen |
JeremyLC: I managed my first Koha install on Ubuntu fairly well recently |
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Ropuch |
Can't tell, my first install went smooth |
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chris |
back |
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JeremyLC |
I did it on a Debian system, configured for that purpose, and it took a lot of work |
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Ropuch |
JeremyLC: good thing with dev versions is that they're shipped with just english, and install && test are really quick |
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* chris_n |
growls at git |
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chris |
debian lenny is pretty easy now |
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chris_n |
hi chris, Ropuch, JeremyLC |
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Ropuch |
Hi chris_n, chris_n owen ;-) |
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chris_n |
git behaves badly during multiple interactive rebases |
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chris_n |
about every dozen times run in succession, git suddenly decides to load up *all* commits (500+) into the to-do list |
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chris |
what version of git? |
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chris_n |
1.6.0.4 |
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chris |
i have 1.6.3.3 |
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JeremyLC |
looks like it still uses only date rather than datetime |
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chris_n |
I'll update and see fif that fixes it |
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chris_n |
if, even |
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chris |
worth a crack |
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chris |
JeremyLC: it wouldn't actually be much work to add it, its just that because LL said they were, no one else was working on it |
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JeremyShellhase |
I am working with Koha 2.29 windows XP - system is refusing to create item records, any ideas? |
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chris |
unfortunately no JeremyShellhase, 2.2.9 is a very old and pretty much unsupported version of koha |
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JeremyShellhase |
is there a later version for running under windows |
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chris |
chris_n is working on it for 3.2.0 .. i think he is getting there |
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chris_n |
inch by inch... or cm by cm whatever your preference |
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JeremyLC |
chris: which version should I work with if I want to be able to submit my changes back in? (I want my organization to have an available upgrade/support path after I'm gone) |
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chris |
to be truthful, it isn't really a priority for a lot of the developers as we all work with FOSS |
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chris |
but chris_n is doing some great work |
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chris |
JeremyLC: master branch, of git.koha.org |
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chris |
if you format patches based off that, that will be the way to go |
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chris_n |
JeremyShellhase: 3.2 on win32 is hopeful for 3.2, but no guarantees as it depends on a one line change in a core module of Perl itself |
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chris_n |
the change will *probably* be made, but things move slowly in that world |
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* chris_n |
goes back to flexing the power of git |
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JeremyShellhase |
Thanks chris_n, it was working with 2.29 for a while but no more |
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chris |
hi irma |
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chilts |
calcu |
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chilts |
oopse, ww |
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chris_n |
ok, 90 commits is now 35... 8 hours later :-P |
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chris_n |
bbl |
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schuster |
back. |
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schuster |
Ok finally got a chance to do the apt-get install libgdm-dev again and I get error package not found. |
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chris |
thats cos its gdbm sorry typo |
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chris |
libgdbm-dev |
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schuster |
giddy with excitement that might be it! whew! thanks Chris and Chris_n |
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chris |
what the hell is 'community source' ? |
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chris |
http://newsinfo.iu.edu/news/pa[…]normal/12849.html |
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schuster |
well off to the homefront - with community meetings tonight!! |
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chris |
have fun :) |
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owen |
chris: Not only do they want to reinvent the wheel, they want to reinvent the term |
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chris |
i bet it's some half arsed not really open source thing |
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chris |
http://www.microsoft.com/resou[…]munitysource.mspx |
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chris |
using the same term as M$ use to create FUD about FLOSS .. nice work |
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chilts |
bet it runs on Windoze too |
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chris |
well it doesnt exist yet .. but yeah, its probably likely |
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owen |
Maybe that was the thing Koha and Evergreen lacked :) |
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chris |
theres nothing that EG and Koha lack that 2.4 million US couldnt fix |
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chris |
:-) |
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chilts |
that's a lot of money |
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chris |
you're darn tooting it is |
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Nate |
goodnight All! |
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* chris_n2 |
could do *a lot* of coding on Koha for just a part of 2.4 million |
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chris |
heh |
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chris |
i bet most of it disappears |
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chris |
if its anything like when i used to work for a university |
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chris |
a big chunk will disappear in 'overheads' |
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chris |
id estimate less than 1 goes to the actual coders |
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brendan |
overheads-- |
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chris |
was something like 40% or something horrid |
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chris_n2 |
sad, but most likely true |
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