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Genji |
Hi, im back. anyone alive? |
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Genji |
Would a mismatch in versioning of LibXML compiled for 706 but libxml2 runtime is 702, cause a zebra indexing/search fail? |
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Genji |
Would it cause icu.xml to fail to read? |
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Amit |
hi brendan, chris |
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Amit |
good morning #koha |
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Genji |
hiya Amit. |
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Genji |
Would a mismatch in versioning of LibXML compiled for 706 but libxml2 runtime is 702, cause a zebra indexing/search fail? |
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Genji |
Would it cause icu.xml to fail to read? |
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Amit |
heya Genji |
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Genji |
What do you think, Amit? |
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Amit |
your LibXML version |
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Genji |
how do i get that? |
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Amit |
what os r u using? |
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Genji |
Centos |
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Genji |
5.something |
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Amit |
have u installed by rpm or CPAN package? |
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Genji |
unsure. I uninstalled LibXML via CPANPLUS, and reinstalled.. to see if the mismatch would disappear. Nope. |
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Amit |
u can installed by RPM package |
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Genji |
Oh? okay. whats the rpm? |
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Amit |
perl-XML-LibXML |
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Genji |
no package perl-XML-LibXML availab.e |
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Genji |
hmm.. guess i have to search for it. |
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Genji |
how do i know from uname -a if i have 64 bit or not? |
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Genji |
2.6.18-164.el5PAE #1 SMP Thu Sep 3 04:10:44 EDT 2009 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux is 64 or 32 bit? |
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Amit |
yum search perl-XML-LibXML |
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Genji |
nevermind.. got it. |
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Genji |
rpmforging on. |
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Genji |
oh... this isn't good. now yum update says that kernel.i686 is set to be erased! |
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Genji |
oh.. a new kernel is set to be installed.... |
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brendan |
hello amit |
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chris_n2 |
@wunder 28334 |
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munin |
chris_n2: The current temperature in Dunn, North Carolina is -2.0�C (11:53 PM EST on December 20, 2009). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 74%. Dew Point: -6.0�C. Windchill: -2.0�C. Pressure: 29.77 in 1008.0 hPa (Steady). |
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chris_n2 |
@wunder 22727 |
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munin |
chris_n2: The current temperature in Madison Cnty; 3 miles NE Haywood, Haywood, Virginia is -4.0�C (11:50 PM EST on December 20, 2009). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 77%. Dew Point: -7.0�C. Windchill: -4.0�C. Pressure: 30.17 in 1021.6 hPa (Rising). |
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notes that 22727 is currently under about 30 some inches of snow |
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chris_n2 |
and wonders back off into LEK purgatory |
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Amit |
heya chris_n2 |
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chris_n2 |
howdy Amit |
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Amit |
everything is fine |
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chris_n2 |
heh... as fine as can be trying to code with both hands tied behind my back and one foot too, I think |
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Genji |
hmm, chris_n2? Your Liblime developer? |
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Genji |
@quote search chris_n2 |
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munin |
Genji: No matching quotes were found. |
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chris_n2 |
Genji: no... I was once upon a time in a galaxy far far away... now I'm just contracted by a third party to attempt to do some magical foo interfacing LEK with some other software |
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chris_n2 |
Genji: btw chris_n2 = chris_n = fbcit so on and so forth |
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Genji |
magical foo getting LEK to play nice, sounds like black magic. |
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chris_n2 |
indeed... very black |
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Genji |
Beware of the Voodoo. |
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@wunder Kolkata |
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indradg: The current temperature in Kolkata, India is 23.0�C (10:50 AM IST on December 21, 2009). Conditions: Haze. Humidity: 44%. Dew Point: 10.0�C. Pressure: 30.09 in 1019 hPa (Falling). |
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Amit |
hi indradg |
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indradg |
Amit, hiya! |
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Genji |
Would a mismatch in versioning of LibXML compiled for 20706 but libxml2 runtime is 20702, cause a zebra indexing/search fail? |
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Genji |
looks like it would be impossible downgrading libxml2 without uninstallling a lot of other stuff. |
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Genji |
is it possible to swap versions of libxml2 without uninstalling/reinstalling everything? |
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chris_n2 |
g'night koha |
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Amit |
heya nicomo |
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nicomo |
hi Amit |
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Ropuch |
Morning #koha |
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test |
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chris |
evening |
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Ropuch |
Hi chris |
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Genji |
chris, you awake still? |
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hdl_laptop |
chris : hi |
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CGI887 |
anybody out there? |
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CGI887 |
i'm a complete noob just messing with the virtual machine Koha dist. |
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CGI887 |
wanna know how to change the staff interface password for "kohaadmin" |
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CGI887 |
690 you there? |
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CGI690 |
Is there a simple tutorial on how to use Koha to create a very simple library system for an existing library with very basic cataloguing, and for someone who is NOT a library expert, nor a data base expert? |
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CGI887 |
sounds like you and I are both noobs. :) i'm trying to figure out how to change kohaadmin password |
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CGI690 |
I did find a link for that, but it is really quite complicated. I did find what the default password and just decided to go with it for a start |
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CGI690 |
I have scanned the physical cards, which contain relatively little information: catalog number (in a simple format, not Dewey, MARC or any standard form), title, author(s), brief description, publisher and that is about it! |
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CGI887 |
you are beyond me... ive figured out how to manually add items using isbn search... thats it |
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CGI690 |
I have this information in tables under major headings (like fiction, youth, etc.). The tables are in OpenOffice Text format. |
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CGI690 |
I haven't even figured out how to manually add items. For a lot of material in the library, I cannot even find the ISBN. |
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hdl_laptop |
CGI887: to change kohaadmin password. |
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hdl_laptop |
you have to change the mysql apssword for kohaadmin. |
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CGI690 |
http://blog.chadwollenberg.com[…]3-admin-password/ is a link for how to change the kohaadmin password. I have not tried it. |
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hdl_laptop |
And report the change in koha-conf.xml |
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hdl_laptop |
CGI690 :koha can only import iso2709 or MARCXML so no XL spreadsheet. |
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hdl_laptop |
To convert your data, see the wiki and look for MarcEdit |
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CGI690 |
Is it OK to leave most of the fields blank in MARC records? I don't have much of the data available for most of the fields in a MARC record |
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CGI887 |
ok, still stuck... on virtual machine I cannot get a root shell because of control panel that is tied to root account |
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CGI887 |
change of password seems to require root perms |
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CGI887 |
should read... change of sql password seems to require root perms. |
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says something about "cannot turn off login. access denied, you need SUPER priv for this op" |
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CGI952 |
koha on debian etch: failing at this point: Starting Zebraqueue Daemon/usr/share/koha/bin/koha-zebraqueue-ctl.sh: line 26: daemon: command not found could somebody help |
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CGI952 |
amit?? |
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CGI952 |
cud somebody clarify on the last post regarding koha on debian etch |
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Ropuch |
CGI952: sudo aptitude install daemon |
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Ropuch |
(from what you pasted it seems you;re missing daemon) |
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CGI952 |
sudo update-rc.d koha-zebraqueue-daemon defaults ; this i executed first |
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CGI952 |
and then i did this sudo /usr/share/koha/bin/koha-zebraqueue-ctl.sh start for which command not found error i got.. |
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CGI952 |
ropuch... |
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CGI952 |
i did try the command u gave it doesnt solve the error |
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CGI952 |
ropuch: i m able to go thru that step now...once i exec the zebraqueue start command. the daemon gets started..but i try accessing the page via the browser....page not found...kindly clarify...i have been with this for a long time now...kindly help... |
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CGI952 |
could somebody c larify......i am thru the six steps of debian install of koha....when i try accessing the page via the browser page not found... |
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CGI021 |
anasha koha on debian etch.... not able to access the opac or intranet pages...kindly help... |
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zico |
hi |
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zico |
i have installed koha-3.0.5 |
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zico |
the problem i had been facing is gone... thanks |
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zico |
:) |
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zico |
double biblio problem, multiple holdings physical items not showing... and other |
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zico |
:) |
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CGI021 |
zico |
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zico |
but.. now.. i am facing another problem in koha-3.0.5 |
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CGI021 |
cud u clarify.. |
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zico |
the thing is... when i go for label printing.... and... when... i press "Add item(s) to batch" ... no window comes... |
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CGI021 |
ropcuh.....i m not able to access the opac or intra pages... |
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zico |
CGI021: yes! |
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CGI021 |
zico...i m not able to access the opac or intra pages...till 6th step of INSTALL.debian went on well... |
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CGI021 |
zico...i m not able to access the opac or intra pages...till 6th step of INSTALL.debian went on well... |
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zico |
CGI021: what did you put in your "servername" ? |
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CGI021 |
http:<localhost> also tried with the ip.... doesnt workk.. |
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CGI021 |
zico.. |
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CGI021 |
cud somebody clarify on access of opac/intra pages...the correct syntax.... |
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CGI021 |
zico |
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CGI021 |
zico u there?? |
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zico |
CGI021: put http://127.0.0.1:8080/ |
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zico |
or... http://127.0.1.1:8080/ |
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CGI021 |
with 0.0.1 page not found and 0.1.1 request not allowed.... |
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CGI021 |
i mean connection refused... |
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CGI021 |
ropcuh... |
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zico |
what is your machine ip? |
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CGI021 |
laurence?? |
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CGI021 |
10.93.242.216 |
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CGI021 |
zico... |
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zico |
did you modify your virtualhost? |
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CGI021 |
no |
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CGI021 |
i did add the lines listen 80 and 8080 to the file mentione during installation. |
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zico |
no... do another thing |
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CGI021 |
YEP... |
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CGI021 |
zico... |
| 11:38 |
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zico |
go to /etc/apache2/sites-available/koha |
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CGI021 |
ok |
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CGI021 |
i have opened the file.... |
| 11:39 |
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zico |
there.. you will find two lines named "<VirtualHost 127.0.1.1:80>" ... and "<VirtualHost 127.0.1.1:8080>" |
| 11:39 |
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zico |
put your machine ip there instead of "127.0.1.1" |
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zico |
then... restart apache2 with /etc/init.d/apache2 restar |
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CGI021 |
ok i shall try and get back... |
| 11:40 |
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zico |
clear your web browser cache and put your address in address bar |
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zico |
say... my OPAC is : http://192.168.1.54/ |
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zico |
and... Staff Interace: http://192.168.1.54:8080/ |
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zico |
hope this may help you |
| 11:43 |
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CGI021 |
now i guess it connects..but not able to open the PL file... |
| 11:43 |
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CGI021 |
and when i try the intranet page....koha error... |
| 11:44 |
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CGI021 |
so my perl modules are not installed properly or what? |
| 11:44 |
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zico |
what koha error shows? |
| 11:44 |
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zico |
i means... are there any other messages there? |
| 11:45 |
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CGI021 |
The following fatal error has occurred:Can't locate ZOOM.pm in @INC (@INC contains: /usr/share/koha/lib /etc/perl /usr/local/lib/perl/5.8.8 /usr/local/share/perl/5.8.8 /usr/lib/perl5 /usr/share/perl5 /usr/lib/perl/5.8 /usr/share/perl/5.8 /usr/local/lib/site_perl .) at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Context.pm line 85.BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Context.pm line 85.Compilation failed in require at /usr/share/ |
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CGI021 |
and when i try to open the opac page...browser says it does not know how to open the file...(PL) file... |
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zico |
u need to install ZOOM from cpan |
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zico |
ok...is there anyone who can tell about Koha-3.0.5 label printing problem? :) |
| 11:51 |
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zico |
i need it badly! :) |
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chris_n2 |
@wunder 28334 |
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munin |
chris_n2: The current temperature in Erwin, North Carolina is -3.0�C (7:40 AM EST on December 21, 2009). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 80%. Dew Point: -6.0�C. Windchill: -3.0�C. Pressure: 30.20 in 1023 hPa (Rising). |
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chris_n2 |
@later tell zico check popup blockers... labels in 3.0.5 works fine here |
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munin |
chris_n2: The operation succeeded. |
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owen |
Hello all non-vacationing Koha worker drones |
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paul_p2 |
hello owen. |
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hdl_laptop |
hi owen. |
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paul_p2 |
"no vacation for brave people !!!" |
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owen |
Do people usually take vacation around Christmas in France? |
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paul_p2 |
owen: yes, libraries often have 1 or even 2 weeks. |
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owen |
The schools do here, but not libraries |
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jwagner |
Hello to all from blizzard-bound DC. |
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owen |
Hi jwagner, how's your recuperation going? |
| 13:56 |
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jwagner |
Pretty good. I'm mostly off the painkillers which makes for better concentration but perhaps less imagination :-) |
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jwagner |
Still getting around the house in a wheelchair, but I can put some weight on the foot now. |
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owen |
But no sympathy for being house-bound while everyone else is too? |
| 13:57 |
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jwagner |
Well, even if they closed the office today I'd probably be working. No excuse if you're already set up to telework.... |
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jwagner |
But the federal government is shut down. The apocalypse is nigh.... |
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nengard |
hi all - no vaca for me either :) but we are dug out and so hubby's school was open today so he had to go to work |
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nengard |
more bug wrangling this AM |
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nengard |
now on to documentation again :) |
| 14:01 |
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jwagner |
nengard++ for all the bug wrangling |
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owen |
No inbox zero for me today, not with all of nengard's bug wrangling ;) |
| 14:01 |
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nengard |
thanks jwagner - unfortunatly there are still a lot left open :( |
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jwagner |
I've been wondering if nengard was aiming to hit the top of the listserv statistics :-) |
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nengard |
LOL - there are listserv stats? |
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nengard |
nope - just doing what I was asked to do :) |
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nengard |
also - I want to find bugs I can actually fix so I keep reading through the bugs |
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jwagner |
Is there any help or hint file on bugzilla? I haven't been able to figure out how to set up some reports. I'd like to see all the entries where I'm cc'd, for example. |
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nengard |
clicking the Search link gives you lots of options |
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nengard |
sorry - clicking the Search Link and then the Advanced Search Tab |
| 14:07 |
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nengard |
at the bottom you can choose to see items with a specific CC |
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nengard |
jwagner: http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…]1&format=advanced |
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jwagner |
Aha! Hadn't found that page. I was trying to do something similar with those fields in a report, but it kept complaining. |
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jwagner |
Thanks. That's going to help. |
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hilongo |
Hello everyone ... glad to see I'm not only one without vacations :) |
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jwagner |
Nope, we're all hard at work. (For some variable definitions of "hard" and "work" that is) |
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hilongo |
very variable indeed :) |
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Ropuch |
Wow, All tests successful. Result: PASS in 3.0.5 make test |
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Ropuch |
Hello everybody :) |
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jwagner |
Hi Ropuch |
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hilongo |
Great! |
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owen |
Re: Bug 2739, why would you have a patron with no name? |
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munin |
Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…]w_bug.cgi?id=2739 normal, P3, ---, jmf liblime.com, NEW, OPAC Welcome Breaks if No First Name Avail |
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* owen |
wonders why he even asks himself these questions |
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jwagner |
Staff ID maybe? We always set up dummy names even for those. Sounds like it's not really breaking, just displaying funny. |
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hilongo |
I have a bunch of patron without name ... from an import run where I was unable to separate firstnames from surnames ... |
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chris_n2 |
g'morning all |
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jwagner |
good morning chris_n2 -- much snow down your way? |
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chris_n2 |
vacation here has to wait until next week |
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chris_n2 |
jwagner: none here actually... 30 some inches at my parents in Madison VA (nearer to you) |
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chris_n2 |
the children were very disappointed here :-( |
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jwagner |
I'll bet. They're delighted here. At least one school system has already cancelled classes until after the first of the year. |
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chris_n2 |
yeah, we're headed to the Blue Ridge in VA next week... maybe we'll get snowed in ;-) |
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* chris_n2 |
can hardly wait to get to a place where the internet and phone cannot find him |
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hilongo |
Over here the kids are always 'snow-disappointed' this time of the year ... cause it's summer but all the christmas 'propaganda' is snowy :P |
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owen |
I want a place where the internet and phone can't find me...but I can find them ;) |
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jwagner |
Nope, they're talking about rain for Christmas day in the DC area, at least. Blue Ridge will probably be about the same. |
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jwagner |
owen, for that situation I highly recommend a cruise ship :-) They can't reach you, but if you're really desperate (and willing to spend the exorbitant Internet access fees) you can reach them. |
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chris_n2 |
owen: lol |
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owen |
hilongo: Interesting case. Are you left manually correcting those patrons? |
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's 3 year old is laughing at the smileys in his irc client |
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nengard |
owen - delayed response re the bug - but if first name isn't required for some reason it's pretty easy to have that field blank ... |
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hilongo |
owen: Yes. First we tried to leave the first word as a surname and the rest as the name ... |
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hilongo |
but that had to be 'reviewed' manually anyway |
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owen |
Does Cher use her local public library? How do they handle it? |
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nengard |
hehe |
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hilongo |
haha |
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hilongo |
just like Maddona ... I guess :) |
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owen |
Actually, looks like that bug has been taken care of. "Welcome, Cher | Log Out" |
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owen |
"Hello, Cher (Click here if you're not Cher)" |
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owen |
...although the bug is assigned to "rel_3_0." hdl_laptop: How should we be handling such bugs? It could be something that affects 3.0.x |
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hilongo |
I have v. 3.01 and Madonna looks nice ... |
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nengard |
the bug was regarding a missing First name |
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hilongo |
Hello, Madonna (Click here if you're not Sra Madonna) |
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nengard |
not a missing Surname |
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owen |
nengard: I notice in your screenshot for bug 3900 that your "subscription started on" date is missing. I have that same problem. |
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munin |
Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3900 enhancement, P5, ---, oleonardmyacpl.org, RESOLVED DUPLICATE, Serial Info in Opac Needs View Tabs |
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nengard |
hmmm - must be a display bug I didn't notice before |
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nengard |
you fixing it with bug 3900? or should i put in a new bug? |
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owen |
When I look at the information stored in the subscriptionhistory table I find that histstartdate is empty for everything |
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owen |
Can you check your data to confirm? |
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owen |
I'm just investigating. If it's an easy fix I'll roll it into the fix for 3900/3376 |
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owen |
(I guess it's not an easy fix if the data isn't getting into the database) |
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owen |
Wait, what's the difference between "start date" and "history start date" ? |
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nengard |
owen - just a sec |
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nengard |
no clue what the dif is |
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owen |
serials/subscription-detail.pl lists both in the subscription summary table |
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nengard |
and are they both showing? |
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owen |
start date and end date are filled, history start date and history end date are empty |
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nengard |
owen - i see the same thing - i think we need a serials bug for this - |
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nengard |
i'll include our chat |
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owen |
I do notice that "histstartdate" and "histenddate" are fields that are part of the "manual history" entry form, but they're labeled "subscription start date" and "subscription end date" |
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nengard |
Bug 3982 submitted |
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munin |
Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3982 normal, P5, ---, paul.poulainbiblibre.com, NEW, History Start Date Not Populated |
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rhcl |
@seen wizzyrea |
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munin |
rhcl: wizzyrea was last seen in #koha 2 days, 16 hours, 38 minutes, and 38 seconds ago: <wizzyrea> aside: I love screencast.com |
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rhcl |
@seen chris |
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munin |
rhcl: chris was last seen in #koha 6 hours, 54 minutes, and 30 seconds ago: <chris> evening |
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rhcl |
@seen chris_n |
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munin |
rhcl: chris_n was last seen in #koha 2 days, 11 hours, 15 minutes, and 49 seconds ago: <chris_n> @later tell wizzyrea: open an enhancement request for that option and I'll add it to my ever growing list :-) |
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rhcl |
@seen anybody |
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munin |
rhcl: I have not seen anybody. |
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chris_n |
rhcl: here now |
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* owen |
waves his arms and asks munin if he can see him now |
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chris_n |
hehe |
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rhcl |
Wasn't it you that posted the note about Stephen Abram over the weekend? I'm just now starting to read the articles in American Libraries. Quite interesting happenings going on I think. |
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chris_n |
I must confess: it was not I |
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chris_n |
but I'd be interested in the link |
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rhcl |
It's up above somewhere...I'll look. |
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owen |
"brendan @llater tell chris stephen abram no longer with Sirsi-Dynix. he's gone back to publishing" |
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rhcl |
Ah, I don't have the logs on this computer. |
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rhcl |
Have "you all" read the American Libraries" articles? |
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chris_n |
interesting |
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gives firefox its obligatory bi-weekly restart |
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rhcl |
Interesting Marshal Breeding comment: |
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rhcl |
"A ne front has developed in the competition among library automation alternative vendors, who are racing to open up software and allow libraries more access to their data and internal functionality.? |
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rhcl |
sed s/ne/new |
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owen |
What's the difference between a subscription's "First issue publication date" and its "Subscription start date" ? |
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nengard |
owen that i can tell you :) |
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nengard |
the first issue pub date is the issue you have in hand when you add the subscription |
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nengard |
it's the one you base all your predictions on |
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nengard |
the sub start date is for the date your subscirption starts with the vendor |
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nengard |
that way you know when you have to renew your subscrption |
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nengard |
all that is in the manual btw :) |
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owen |
The manual needs to be converted into a chat bot ;) |
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owen |
Thanks nengard |
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chris_n |
owen-away: excellent idea... I'll do that right after <BOTTOM_ELEMENT_OF_FILO_BUFFER_GOES_HERE> |
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wizzyrea |
owen: omg, having the manual as a chat bot... that makes me weep with happiness (or would, if we had that) |
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wizzyrea |
something like @manual acquisitions |
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wizzyrea |
hawt |
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wizzyrea |
it's XML, could probably be done |
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jwagner |
But it wouldn't have the screenshots.... |
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wizzyrea |
more like links to the pages |
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wizzyrea |
jwagner: how's the foot? |
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jwagner |
Doing better. I'm pretty much off the painkillers now, but still using the wheelchair to get around. |
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jwagner |
One of the advantages of working from home is that the soundtrack is better. This morning has been a mixture of Pete Seeger/Arlo Guthrie and Bruce Springsteen. |
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wizzyrea |
niiice |
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wizzyrea |
it's a good time to be snowed in :) |
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jwagner |
If I listen to music in the office, I make sure to keep it all instrumental, like classical or George Winston or Mannheim Steamroller. Otherwise I'll start singing along, which might disturb other folks in my corridor. |
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hilongo |
haha .. I guess they are missing your songs now ! ;) |
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jwagner |
But at least I didn't have to struggle with the commute this morning! |
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nengard |
owen wizzyrea - once the manual is in XML i bet it would be easier to bring in sections of it :) |
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nengard |
sorry - delayed reaction ... |
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chris |
morning peeps |
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wizzyrea |
mornin chris |
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paul_p |
hi chris & wizzyrea & nengard ! |
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nengard |
hi paul_p |
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paul_p |
raining in Marseille, just when I plan to go back home with my bike :'( |
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nengard |
well paul, that's better than the 20 inches of snow we have here ;) |
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chris |
@wunder wellington nz |
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munin |
chris: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 8.0�C (5:00 AM NZDT on December 22, 2009). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 81%. Dew Point: 5.0�C. Windchill: 6.0�C. Pressure: 30.15 in 1021 hPa (Steady). |
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chris |
hmmm |
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chris |
http://metservice.co.nz/nation[…]-nz-colour-latest |
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chris |
looks like it might be a nice day |
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slef |
phrrrp |
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slef |
@wunder weston-super-mare somerset |
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munin |
slef: The current temperature in Weston-Super-Mare, United Kingdom is 0.0�C (5:21 PM GMT on December 21, 2009). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 89%. Dew Point: -2.0�C. Windchill: 0.0�C. Pressure: 29.09 in 985.0 hPa (Steady). |
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slef |
paul_p: I punctured in sub-zero weather last week. Not fun. It held enough to get home. |
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nengard |
owen about? |
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nengard |
wizzyrea you good with css? |
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owen |
Yes, for another minute |
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nengard |
ooo |
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nengard |
nevermind wizzyrea |
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chris |
burn!!! |
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wizzyrea |
*sob* |
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chris |
hehe |
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wizzyrea |
;) |
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nengard |
awwwww |
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nengard |
i'm so sorry!! you can help me too if you want :) |
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wizzyrea |
j/k I wub u |
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nengard |
wub u too |
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rhcl |
Is there a sysop that can kick rhcl1 (I'm logged on at home)? |
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richard |
hi |
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Ropuch |
Hi |
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chris_n |
Hi |
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nengard |
hi |
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wizzyrea |
chris_n: I wonder what browser zico is using to access his labels |
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wizzyrea |
(er try to) |
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wizzyrea |
what browser are you using? |
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chris_n |
wizzyrea: Mozilla |
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chris_n |
is there another browser? |
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chris_n |
;-) |
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Ropuch |
;> |
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wizzyrea |
^.^ |
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wizzyrea |
It just seems like the kind of thing that screams "busted browser" to me |
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wizzyrea |
popups blocked, too aggressive security settings |
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wizzyrea |
something |
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wizzyrea |
is anyone here familiar with the kohatools from contribs.koha.org? |
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chris_n |
right, I tried to suggest to him to look at popup blocking settings |
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wizzyrea |
kyle's report module, specifically |
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wizzyrea |
dollars to donuts he's doing it in IE |
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chris_n |
wouldn't be surprised.... I had to ditch IE on my cataloger's computers |
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chris_n |
too many quarks |
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Chaos |
I'm so ridiculously bored tonight |
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Chaos |
and I have a toothache |
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owen |
chris_n: "had to?" |
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* owen |
is more than happy to ditch it at every opportunity |
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* chris_n |
agrees with that sentiment whole heartedly |
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chris_n |
nothing delights me more on a win32 system than to set Firefox as the default browser |
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wizzyrea |
hehe |
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wizzyrea |
you know what we do in our libraries |
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chris_n |
well.... one thing is more delightful... |
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Chaos |
cough elinks cough |
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wizzyrea |
we set the firefox icon to the big blue E |
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wizzyrea |
>.> |
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chilts |
:) |
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chilts |
good on you! |
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chris_n |
removing win32 and installing *nix tops the list of delightful computer experiences |
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wizzyrea |
truth. |
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chris_n |
lol |
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wizzyrea |
we leave IE installed, because the government still requires it sometimes for forms and stuff |
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wizzyrea |
but we put FF on the desktop with the big blue E |
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Chaos |
removing win32, installing *nix, and customizing x11 to look EXACTLY like windows so they don't realize ANYTHING happened, should be the fun part |
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wizzyrea |
we get very few complaints |
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wizzyrea |
chaos, also fun |
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nengard |
time for me to talk to CA librarians about the real Koha - be back on later |
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wizzyrea |
Will the real Koha please stand up |
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Chaos |
ya'll act like you never seen a gpl project before |
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Chaos |
I was going ot try to go weird al with it but that's all I got |
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chris_n |
grr.... FF crashes for the second time today |
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chris_n |
howdy pianohacker |
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pianohacker |
Hi, chris_n |
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chris_n |
how are you |
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pianohacker |
Might disappear, internet connection has been weird today |
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pianohacker |
Other than that, great |
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pianohacker |
you? |
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Ropuch |
Hello chris_n, pianohacker |
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pianohacker |
Hi, Ropuch |
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chris_n |
pianohacker: its been the sort of day that results in things like broken fingers |
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pianohacker |
Oh, crap! What happened? |
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's oldest son tore the skin completely off of the pad of his left middle finger |
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chris_n |
ouch^2 |
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janewagner |
Yeowwwcchhhh |
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chris_n |
massively painful injury |
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pianohacker |
grah. I've gotten really bad hand wounds like that before, all those never endings |
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janewagner |
I can believe it. |
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chris_n |
although not bad on the whole scale of things |
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pianohacker |
*nerve endings |
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chris_n |
yeah |
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janewagner |
speaking of broken fingers, how are yours, pianohacker? |
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chris_n |
it took an narcotic to finally deaden the pain |
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pianohacker |
janewagner: Great, actually :P |
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pianohacker |
chris_n: Blurgh, so sorry |
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chris_n |
the bone was not crushed, however, and the finger was not "de-gloved" |
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janewagner |
chris_n, he's going to have a lot of pain for a good many days. |
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chris_n |
which would have required skin grafts |
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pianohacker |
Gah, "de-gloved", short but very vivid word |
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chris_n |
janewagner" I'm sure |
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chris_n |
yup... sends shivers up my spine |
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Hope he's not left-handed. I've had injuries to fingers on my right hand & found it impossible to do anything because my normal grip/hand-action always hit the spot. |
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chris_n |
he's right-handed fortunately |
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janewagner |
One small mercy.... |
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chris_n |
seems he's looking at about 5 or 6 weeks |
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chris_n |
right now infection is the only concern |
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chris_n |
he had MSRA last year... so the doctors is wanting to watch this closely |
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chris_n |
MRSA even |
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pianohacker |
Yeah, definitely a danger with that bad a wound |
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chris_n |
but, there is much to be thankful for as the injury could have been much worse |
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chris_n |
time to go home, bbl |
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nengard |
just got asked a question I wasn't sure of - can you catalog in chinese and japanese characters in koha? |
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pianohacker |
You should be able to, as long as your database is set up for UTF8 |
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pianohacker |
Dunno how well Zebra will handle it, but it should work |
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nengard |
anyone know how well zebra will handle chinese and japanese characters? |
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Ropuch |
nengard: zebra handles hebrew pretty well, so i guess there should be no problem with chinese or japanese |
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nengard |
thanks! |
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Ropuch |
nengard: https://hfjs.bsz-bw.de/cgi-bin/koha/opac-main.pl |
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Ropuch |
kf's catalog |
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chris_n |
any reason this should not work: my $card_number = GetMember($borrower_number)->{'cardnumber'}; |
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pianohacker |
chris_n: Not that I can think of. You could try a plain GetMember in a perl -de 1 session to see what the result wase |
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pianohacker |
*was |
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chris_n |
pianohacker: I'm getting complaints to this effect: Can't use an undefined value as a HASH reference |
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chris_n |
I'll try your suggestion and see what's up |
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pianohacker |
Then GetMember's definitely screwy |
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Ropuch |
nengard: and http://www.granthalaya.org can perform zebra search with Marathi / Hindi / Telugu / Kannada alphabet |
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pianohacker |
the perl debugger is really handy because you can run things like s GetMember($borrower_number), step through the function and see what's up. Much easier than throwing in a ton of warns |
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nengard |
thanks |
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chris |
chris_n: GetMember has changed in master |
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chris |
it takes a hash as input |
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chris_n |
oh, fun |
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chris_n |
when? |
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chris |
my ( %information ) = @_; |
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chris |
just recently |
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missed that and that accounts for the error |
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chris_n |
tnx |
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chris |
so Getmember('cardnumber' => $cardnumber ); |
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chris |
lets you do borrowernumber, cardnumber, surname .. whatever |
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chris_n |
cool |
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chris |
(or combo of them |
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chris_n |
fantastic! back in business |
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chris |
cool |
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chris |
nengard: yes there are libraries in taiwan and mainland china cataloguing in chinese |
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chris |
sup chris_n |
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nengard |
thanks chris |
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chris |
hmm sup chilts |
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chilts |
ola! |
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chris |
tab completion fail |
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chilts |
heh, yeah, I decided on chilts instead of pie :) |
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chilts |
how's it? you sunning yourself in this basking weather |
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chilts |
@wunder Wellington, NZ |
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munin |
chilts: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 15.0�C (10:00 AM NZDT on December 22, 2009). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 59%. Dew Point: 7.0�C. Pressure: 30.18 in 1022 hPa (Steady). |
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chris |
just got back from the airport, picking up laurel's dad |
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chilts |
wow, scorching 15°C ! |
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chris |
hehe yeah its at least 17 |
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chilts |
heh, you're living at the airport at the moment |
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pianohacker |
... |
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pianohacker |
@wunder 81212 |
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munin |
pianohacker: The current temperature in Franklin Ave - Downtown, Canon City, Colorado is 16.8�C (2:31 PM MST on December 21, 2009). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 24%. Dew Point: -4.0�C. Pressure: 29.88 in 1011.7 hPa (Steady). |
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chris_n |
@wunder 28334 |
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pianohacker |
It's _warmer_ here? What the hell? |
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munin |
chris_n: The current temperature in Erwin, North Carolina is 8.0�C (4:20 PM EST on December 21, 2009). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 43%. Dew Point: -4.0�C. Windchill: 8.0�C. Pressure: 30.11 in 1020 hPa (Falling). |
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* chilts |
likes @wunder |
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* chris_n |
tears himself away from coding and heads home for real this time ;-) |
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chris_n |
bbl |
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chris |
chilts: i made a couple of template changes, and a new section on the kohacon site |
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chilts |
sweet :) |
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* chilts |
looks |
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chris |
nengard: the test manual is using the new css now too |
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chilts |
chris: so I think I need links from the sections/nodes in the admin interface, to open the pages up too :) |
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chris |
yeah that would be handy |
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chilts |
not sure the best way yet (anyway, we'll talk somewhere else or we'll hijack #koha) :D |
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chris |
:-) |
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chris |
all the northern hemispherites will go to sleep soon anyway :) |
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chilts |
heh |
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owen |
*yawn* |
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nengard |
chris - as in the new css i put up in my last push? |
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chris |
yup |
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chris |
as of 10 mins ago |
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nengard |
thanks chris - can i just say i'm annoyed with the xml to html converter |
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nengard |
it's putting in stuff i don't want in there |
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Ropuch |
Is it normal that HEAD hasn't been updated in three weeks? |
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nengard |
extra <p> tags and stuff |
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owen |
Ropuch: These days it is normal, as our 3.2 Release Manager is very busy |
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Ropuch |
But i can see patches form list merged with koha-biblibre.git |
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owen |
gmcharlt: I suggest you start soliciting bribes. I will be first in line. PayPal? Amazon wish list? |
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Ropuch |
Are those two to be merged together? |
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Ropuch |
;> |
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chris |
@later tell nengard you just have to make an xslt stylesheet then, it converts how it is told to convert |
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munin |
chris: The operation succeeded. |
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owen |
chris: "just" ? :) |
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pianohacker |
XSLT and "just" should never go in the same sentence |
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chris |
hehe well there are piles to choose from, its more just changing the rules for the attributes you dont want |
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chris |
ok im gonna walk down the hill and watch avatar |
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chris |
bbl |
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chilts |
have fun! |
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hdl_laptop |
hi gmcharlt |
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chris_n2 |
hdl_laptop: why does C4::SQLHelper=>InsertInTable do an INSERT rather than an INSERT ... ON DUPLICATE KEY UPDATE? |
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chris_n2 |
this causes a problem for the import_patron.pl script when overwriting an existing record I think |
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chris_n2 |
import_borrowers.pl rather |
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hdl_laptop |
either file a bug or send a patch. |
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chris_n2 |
so you have no problem with that change? |
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hdl_laptop |
Any improvement welcome. |
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chris_n2 |
great, patch on the way |
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hdl_laptop |
chris_n2 My question is : would we want that behavior as default ? |
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chris_n2 |
hdl_laptop: it probably depends on how many places in the code expect to be able to overwrite an existing record by calling the InsertInTable function |
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hdl_laptop |
Or should we raise rather an error when trying to INSERT duplicate information |
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chris_n2 |
the behavior of import_borrowers.pl probably should be corrected rather |
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looks at the script again |
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hdl_laptop |
I donot know many places where the default behaviour is to overwrite an existing row with a new one |
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hdl_laptop |
My philosophy is do one thing but do it well. |
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hdl_laptop |
But as I said, if it is not expected to get an error when trying to insert a duplicate row then we should have such fail over set. |
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hdl_laptop |
Or at least a way to enable that. |
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chris_n2 |
hdl_laptop: the problem is with import_borrowers.pl so I'll fix that |
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hdl_laptop |
chris_n2++ |
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chris_n2 |
although I agree with the need for returning an error |
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cannot see the bottom of his list to add that item to it atm ;-) |
