Time  Nick        Message
23:51 * chris_n2  cannot see the bottom of his list to add that item to it atm ;-)
23:51 chris_n2    although I agree with the need for returning an error
23:51 hdl_laptop  chris_n2++
23:51 chris_n2    hdl_laptop: the problem is with import_borrowers.pl so I'll fix that
23:43 hdl_laptop  Or at least a way to enable that.
23:43 hdl_laptop  But as I said, if it is not expected to get an error when trying to insert a duplicate row then we should have such fail over set.
23:41 hdl_laptop  My philosophy is do one thing but do it well.
23:40 hdl_laptop  I donot know many places where the default behaviour is to overwrite an existing row with a new one
23:40 * chris_n2  looks at the script again
23:40 chris_n2    the behavior of import_borrowers.pl probably should be corrected rather
23:39 hdl_laptop  Or should we raise rather an error when trying to INSERT duplicate information
23:38 chris_n2    hdl_laptop: it probably depends on how many places in the code expect to be able to overwrite an existing record by calling the InsertInTable function
23:38 hdl_laptop  chris_n2 My question is : would we want that behavior as default ?
23:37 chris_n2    great, patch on the way
23:37 hdl_laptop  Any improvement welcome.
23:37 chris_n2    so you have no problem with that change?
23:37 hdl_laptop  either file a bug or send a patch.
23:36 chris_n2    import_borrowers.pl rather
23:36 chris_n2    this causes a problem for the import_patron.pl script when overwriting an existing record I think
23:35 chris_n2    hdl_laptop: why does C4::SQLHelper=>InsertInTable do an INSERT rather than an INSERT ... ON DUPLICATE KEY UPDATE?
23:05 hdl_laptop  hi gmcharlt
22:12 chilts      have fun!
22:10 chris       bbl
22:10 chris       ok im gonna walk down the hill and watch avatar
22:04 chris       hehe well there are piles to choose from, its more just changing the rules for the attributes you dont want
22:03 pianohacker XSLT and "just" should never go in the same sentence
22:03 owen        chris: "just" ? :)
22:02 munin       chris: The operation succeeded.
22:02 chris       @later tell nengard you just have to make an xslt stylesheet then, it converts how it is told to convert
22:01 Ropuch      ;>
22:01 Ropuch      Are those two to be merged together?
22:01 owen        gmcharlt: I suggest you start soliciting bribes. I will be first in line. PayPal? Amazon wish list?
22:01 Ropuch      But i can see patches form list merged with koha-biblibre.git
22:00 owen        Ropuch: These days it is normal, as our 3.2 Release Manager is very busy
21:59 nengard     extra <p> tags and stuff
21:59 Ropuch      Is it normal that HEAD hasn't been updated in three weeks?
21:59 nengard     it's putting in stuff i don't want in there
21:59 nengard     thanks chris - can i just say i'm annoyed with the xml to html converter
21:51 chris       as of 10 mins ago
21:51 chris       yup
21:51 nengard     chris - as in the new css i put up in my last push?
21:47 owen        *yawn*
21:46 chilts      heh
21:45 chris       all the northern hemispherites will go to sleep soon anyway :)
21:45 chris       :-)
21:45 chilts      not sure the best way yet (anyway, we'll talk somewhere else or we'll hijack #koha) :D
21:44 chris       yeah that would be handy
21:44 chilts      chris: so I think I need links from the sections/nodes in the admin interface, to open the pages up too :)
21:44 chris       nengard: the test manual is using the new css now too
21:43 * chilts    looks
21:43 chilts      sweet :)
21:42 chris       chilts: i made a couple of template changes, and a new section on the kohacon site
21:38 chris_n     bbl
21:38 * chris_n   tears himself away from coding and heads home for real this time ;-)
21:36 * chilts    likes @wunder
21:36 munin       chris_n: The current temperature in Erwin, North Carolina is 8.0�C (4:20 PM EST on December 21, 2009). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 43%. Dew Point: -4.0�C. Windchill: 8.0�C. Pressure: 30.11 in 1020 hPa (Falling).
21:36 pianohacker It's _warmer_ here? What the hell?
21:36 chris_n     @wunder 28334
21:36 munin       pianohacker: The current temperature in Franklin Ave - Downtown, Canon City, Colorado is 16.8�C (2:31 PM MST on December 21, 2009). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 24%. Dew Point: -4.0�C. Pressure: 29.88 in 1011.7 hPa (Steady).
21:36 pianohacker @wunder 81212
21:36 pianohacker ...
21:36 chilts      heh, you're living at the airport at the moment
21:36 chris       hehe yeah its at least 17
21:35 chilts      wow, scorching 15°C !
21:35 chris       just got back from the airport, picking up laurel's dad
21:35 munin       chilts: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 15.0�C (10:00 AM NZDT on December 22, 2009). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 59%. Dew Point: 7.0�C. Pressure: 30.18 in 1022 hPa (Steady).
21:35 chilts      @wunder Wellington, NZ
21:35 chilts      how's it? you sunning yourself in this basking weather
21:35 chilts      heh, yeah, I decided on chilts instead of pie :)
21:35 chris       tab completion fail
21:35 chilts      ola!
21:35 chris       hmm sup chilts
21:35 nengard     thanks chris
21:34 chris       sup chris_n
21:34 chris       nengard: yes there are libraries in taiwan and mainland china cataloguing in chinese
21:33 chris       cool
21:33 chris_n     fantastic! back in business
21:33 chris       (or combo of them
21:32 chris_n     cool
21:32 chris       lets you do borrowernumber, cardnumber, surname .. whatever
21:31 chris       so Getmember('cardnumber' => $cardnumber );
21:31 chris_n     tnx
21:31 * chris_n   missed that and that accounts for the error
21:31 chris       just recently
21:31 chris       my ( %information ) = @_;
21:30 chris_n     when?
21:30 chris_n     oh, fun
21:30 chris       it takes a hash as input
21:30 chris       chris_n: GetMember has changed in master
21:30 nengard     thanks
21:30 pianohacker the perl debugger is really handy because you can run things like s GetMember($borrower_number), step through the function and see what's up. Much easier than throwing in a ton of warns
21:29 Ropuch      nengard: and http://www.granthalaya.org can perform zebra search with Marathi / Hindi / Telugu / Kannada alphabet
21:29 pianohacker Then GetMember's definitely screwy
21:29 chris_n     I'll try your suggestion and see what's up
21:29 chris_n     pianohacker: I'm getting complaints to this effect: Can't use an undefined value as a HASH reference
21:28 pianohacker *was
21:28 pianohacker chris_n: Not that I can think of. You could try a plain GetMember in a perl -de 1 session to see what the result wase
21:26 chris_n     any reason this should not work: my $card_number = GetMember($borrower_number)->{'cardnumber'};
21:26 Ropuch      kf's catalog
21:26 Ropuch      nengard: https://hfjs.bsz-bw.de/cgi-bin/koha/opac-main.pl
21:25 nengard     thanks!
21:24 Ropuch      nengard: zebra handles hebrew pretty well, so i guess there should be no problem with chinese or japanese
21:15 nengard     anyone know how well zebra will handle chinese and japanese characters?
21:14 pianohacker Dunno how well Zebra will handle it, but it should work
21:14 pianohacker You should be able to, as long as your database is set up for UTF8
21:14 nengard     just got asked a question I wasn't sure of - can you catalog in chinese and japanese characters in koha?
21:06 chris_n     time to go home, bbl
20:54 chris_n     but, there is much to be thankful for as the injury could have been much worse
20:52 pianohacker Yeah, definitely a danger with that bad a wound
20:52 chris_n     MRSA even
20:52 chris_n     he had MSRA last year... so the doctors is wanting to watch this closely
20:51 chris_n     right now infection is the only concern
20:51 chris_n     seems he's looking at about 5 or 6 weeks
20:51 janewagner  One small mercy....
20:51 chris_n     he's right-handed fortunately
20:51 janewagner  Hope he's not left-handed.  I've had injuries to fingers on my right hand & found it impossible to do anything because my normal grip/hand-action always hit the spot.
20:50 chris_n     yup... sends shivers up my spine
20:50 chris_n     janewagner" I'm sure
20:50 pianohacker Gah, "de-gloved", short but very vivid word
20:50 chris_n     which would have required skin grafts
20:49 janewagner  chris_n, he's going to have a lot of pain for a good many days.
20:49 chris_n     the bone was not crushed, however, and the finger was not "de-gloved"
20:49 pianohacker chris_n: Blurgh, so sorry
20:49 pianohacker janewagner: Great, actually :P
20:49 chris_n     it took an narcotic to finally deaden the pain
20:49 janewagner  speaking of broken fingers, how are yours, pianohacker?
20:49 chris_n     yeah
20:49 pianohacker *nerve endings
20:48 chris_n     although not bad on the whole scale of things
20:48 janewagner  I can believe it.
20:48 pianohacker grah. I've gotten really bad hand wounds like that before, all those never endings
20:48 chris_n     massively painful injury
20:48 janewagner  Yeowwwcchhhh
20:48 chris_n     ouch^2
20:48 * chris_n   's oldest son tore the skin completely off of the pad of his left middle finger
20:47 pianohacker Oh, crap! What happened?
20:47 chris_n     pianohacker: its been the sort of day that results in things like broken fingers
20:46 pianohacker Hi, Ropuch
20:45 Ropuch      Hello chris_n, pianohacker
20:42 pianohacker you?
20:42 pianohacker Other than that, great
20:42 pianohacker Might disappear, internet connection has been weird today
20:42 chris_n     how are you
20:41 pianohacker Hi, chris_n
20:41 chris_n     howdy pianohacker
20:41 chris_n     grr.... FF crashes for the second time today
19:42 Chaos       I was going ot try to go weird al with it but that's all I got
19:40 Chaos       ya'll act like you never seen a gpl project before
19:37 wizzyrea    Will the real Koha please stand up
19:37 nengard     time for me to talk to CA librarians about the real Koha - be back on later
19:36 wizzyrea    chaos, also fun
19:36 wizzyrea    we get very few complaints
19:36 Chaos       removing win32, installing *nix, and customizing x11 to look EXACTLY like windows so they don't realize ANYTHING happened, should be the fun part
19:36 wizzyrea    but we put FF on the desktop with the big blue E
19:36 wizzyrea    we leave IE installed, because the government still requires it sometimes for forms and stuff
19:35 chris_n     lol
19:35 wizzyrea    truth.
19:35 chris_n     removing win32 and installing *nix tops the list of delightful computer experiences
19:35 chilts      good on you!
19:34 chilts      :)
19:34 wizzyrea    >.>
19:34 wizzyrea    we set the firefox icon to the big blue E
19:34 Chaos       cough elinks cough
19:34 chris_n     well.... one thing is more delightful...
19:34 wizzyrea    you know what we do in our libraries
19:34 wizzyrea    hehe
19:34 chris_n     nothing delights me more on a win32 system than to set Firefox as the default browser
19:34 * chris_n   agrees with that sentiment whole heartedly
19:33 * owen      is more than happy to ditch it at every opportunity
19:33 owen        chris_n: "had to?"
19:32 Chaos       and I have a toothache
19:32 Chaos       I'm so ridiculously bored tonight
19:32 chris_n     too many quarks
19:32 chris_n     wouldn't be surprised.... I had to ditch IE on my cataloger's computers
19:31 wizzyrea    dollars to donuts he's doing it in IE
19:30 wizzyrea    kyle's report module, specifically
19:30 chris_n     right, I tried to suggest to him to look at popup blocking settings
19:30 wizzyrea    is anyone here familiar with the kohatools from contribs.koha.org?
19:29 wizzyrea    something
19:29 wizzyrea    popups blocked, too aggressive security settings
19:29 wizzyrea    It just seems like the kind of thing that screams "busted browser" to me
19:28 wizzyrea    ^.^
19:28 Ropuch      ;>
19:28 chris_n     ;-)
19:28 chris_n     is there another browser?
19:28 chris_n     wizzyrea: Mozilla
19:25 wizzyrea    what browser are you using?
19:25 wizzyrea    (er try to)
19:25 wizzyrea    chris_n: I wonder what browser zico is using to access his labels
19:10 nengard     hi
19:09 chris_n     Hi
19:02 Ropuch      Hi
18:59 richard     hi
17:47 rhcl        Is there a sysop that can kick rhcl1 (I'm logged on at home)?
17:34 nengard     wub u too
17:34 wizzyrea    j/k I wub u
17:34 nengard     i'm so sorry!! you can help me too if you want :)
17:34 nengard     awwwww
17:34 wizzyrea    ;)
17:34 chris       hehe
17:34 wizzyrea    *sob*
17:34 chris       burn!!!
17:32 nengard     nevermind wizzyrea
17:32 nengard     ooo
17:32 owen        Yes, for another minute
17:32 nengard     wizzyrea you good with css?
17:32 nengard     owen about?
17:24 slef        paul_p: I punctured in sub-zero weather last week. Not fun. It held enough to get home.
17:23 munin       slef: The current temperature in Weston-Super-Mare, United Kingdom is 0.0�C (5:21 PM GMT on December 21, 2009). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 89%. Dew Point: -2.0�C. Windchill: 0.0�C. Pressure: 29.09 in 985.0 hPa (Steady).
17:23 slef        @wunder weston-super-mare somerset
17:23 slef        phrrrp
17:18 chris       looks like it might be a nice day
17:18 chris       http://metservice.co.nz/national/maps-rain-radar/maps/tasman-sea-nz-colour-latest
17:17 chris       hmmm
17:12 munin       chris: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 8.0�C (5:00 AM NZDT on December 22, 2009). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 81%. Dew Point: 5.0�C. Windchill: 6.0�C. Pressure: 30.15 in 1021 hPa (Steady).
17:12 chris       @wunder wellington nz
17:08 nengard     well paul, that's better than the 20 inches of snow we have here ;)
17:08 paul_p      raining in Marseille, just when I plan to go back home with my bike :'(
17:08 nengard     hi paul_p
17:07 paul_p      hi chris & wizzyrea & nengard !
17:06 wizzyrea    mornin chris
17:05 chris       morning peeps
16:50 nengard     sorry - delayed reaction ...
16:50 nengard     owen wizzyrea - once the manual is in XML i bet it would be easier to bring in sections of it :)
16:20 jwagner     But at least I didn't have to struggle with the commute this morning!
16:20 hilongo     haha .. I guess they are missing your songs now !  ;)
16:19 jwagner     If I listen to music in the office, I make sure to keep it all instrumental, like classical or George Winston or Mannheim Steamroller.  Otherwise I'll start singing along, which might disturb other folks in my corridor.
16:18 wizzyrea    it's a good time to be snowed in :)
16:18 wizzyrea    niiice
16:18 jwagner     One of the advantages of working from home is that the soundtrack is better.  This morning has been a mixture of Pete Seeger/Arlo Guthrie and Bruce Springsteen.
16:16 jwagner     Doing better.  I'm pretty much off the painkillers now, but still using the wheelchair to get around.
16:16 wizzyrea    jwagner: how's the foot?
16:15 wizzyrea    more like links to the pages
16:15 jwagner     But it wouldn't have the screenshots....
16:14 wizzyrea    it's XML, could probably be done
16:14 wizzyrea    hawt
16:14 wizzyrea    something like @manual acquisitions
16:14 wizzyrea    owen: omg, having the manual as a chat bot... that makes me weep with happiness (or would, if we had that)
16:04 chris_n     owen-away: excellent idea... I'll do that right after <BOTTOM_ELEMENT_OF_FILO_BUFFER_GOES_HERE>
15:59 owen        Thanks nengard
15:59 owen        The manual needs to be converted into a chat bot ;)
15:55 nengard     all that is in the manual btw :)
15:55 nengard     that way you know when you have to renew your subscrption
15:55 nengard     the sub start date is for the date your subscirption starts with the vendor
15:55 nengard     it's the one you base all your predictions on
15:55 nengard     the first issue pub date is the issue you have in hand when you add the subscription
15:55 nengard     owen  that i can tell you :)
15:54 owen        What's the difference between a subscription's "First issue publication date" and its "Subscription start date" ?
15:46 rhcl        sed s/ne/new
15:46 rhcl        "A ne front has developed in the competition among library automation alternative vendors, who are racing to open up software and allow libraries more access to their data and internal functionality.?
15:46 rhcl        Interesting Marshal Breeding comment:
15:41 * chris_n   gives firefox its obligatory bi-weekly restart
15:40 chris_n     interesting
15:40 rhcl        Have "you all" read the American Libraries" articles?
15:40 rhcl        Ah, I don't have the logs on this computer.
15:40 owen        "brendan @llater tell chris stephen abram no longer with Sirsi-Dynix. he's gone back to publishing"
15:39 rhcl        It's up above somewhere...I'll look.
15:38 chris_n     but I'd be interested in the link
15:38 chris_n     I must confess: it was not I
15:38 rhcl        Wasn't it you that posted the note about Stephen Abram over the weekend? I'm just now starting to read the articles in American Libraries.  Quite interesting happenings going on I think.
15:37 chris_n     hehe
15:37 * owen      waves his arms and asks munin if he can see him now
15:37 chris_n     rhcl: here now
15:37 munin       rhcl: I have not seen anybody.
15:37 rhcl        @seen anybody
15:36 munin       rhcl: chris_n was last seen in #koha 2 days, 11 hours, 15 minutes, and 49 seconds ago: <chris_n> @later tell wizzyrea: open an enhancement request for that option and I'll add it to my ever growing list :-)
15:36 rhcl        @seen chris_n
15:36 munin       rhcl: chris was last seen in #koha 6 hours, 54 minutes, and 30 seconds ago: <chris> evening
15:36 rhcl        @seen chris
15:33 munin       rhcl: wizzyrea was last seen in #koha 2 days, 16 hours, 38 minutes, and 38 seconds ago: <wizzyrea> aside: I love screencast.com
15:33 rhcl        @seen wizzyrea
15:31 munin       04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3982 normal, P5, ---, paul.poulain@biblibre.com, NEW, History Start Date Not Populated
15:31 nengard     Bug 3982 submitted
15:30 owen        I do notice that "histstartdate" and "histenddate" are fields  that are part of the "manual history" entry form, but they're labeled "subscription start date" and "subscription end date"
15:29 nengard     i'll include our chat
15:29 nengard     owen - i see the same thing - i think we need a serials bug for this -
15:29 owen        start date and end date are filled, history start date and history end date are empty
15:28 nengard     and are they both showing?
15:28 owen        serials/subscription-detail.pl lists both in the subscription summary table
15:27 nengard     no clue what the dif is
15:27 nengard     owen - just a sec
15:27 owen        Wait, what's the difference between "start date" and "history start date" ?
15:25 owen        (I guess it's not an easy fix if the data isn't getting into the database)
15:24 owen        I'm just investigating. If it's an easy fix I'll roll it into the fix for 3900/3376
15:24 owen        Can you check your data to confirm?
15:23 owen        When I look at the information stored in the subscriptionhistory table I find that histstartdate is empty for everything
15:23 nengard     you fixing it with bug 3900? or should i put in a new bug?
15:23 nengard     hmmm - must be a display bug I didn't notice before
15:22 munin       04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3900 enhancement, P5, ---, oleonard@myacpl.org, RESOLVED DUPLICATE, Serial Info in Opac Needs View Tabs
15:22 owen        nengard: I notice in your screenshot for bug 3900 that your "subscription started on" date is missing. I have that same problem.
14:39 nengard     not a missing Surname
14:39 hilongo     Hello, Madonna (Click here if you're not Sra Madonna)
14:39 nengard     the bug was regarding a missing First name
14:39 hilongo     I have v. 3.01 and Madonna looks nice ...
14:32 owen        ...although the bug is assigned to "rel_3_0." hdl_laptop: How should we be handling such bugs? It could be something that affects 3.0.x
14:29 owen        "Hello, Cher (Click here if you're not Cher)"
14:29 owen        Actually, looks like that bug has been taken care of. "Welcome, Cher | Log Out"
14:27 hilongo     just like Maddona ... I guess  :)
14:27 hilongo     haha
14:27 nengard     hehe
14:27 owen        Does Cher use her local public library? How do they handle it?
14:26 hilongo     but that had to be 'reviewed' manually anyway
14:25 hilongo     owen: Yes. First we tried to leave the first word as a surname and the rest as the name ...
14:25 nengard     owen - delayed response re the bug - but if first name isn't required for some reason it's pretty easy to have that field blank ...
14:23 * chris_n2  's 3 year old is laughing at the smileys in his irc client
14:23 owen        hilongo: Interesting case. Are you left manually correcting those patrons?
14:23 chris_n2    owen: lol
14:22 jwagner     owen, for that situation I highly recommend a cruise ship :-)  They can't reach you, but if you're really desperate (and willing to spend the exorbitant Internet access fees) you can reach them.
14:22 jwagner     Nope, they're talking about rain for Christmas day in the DC area, at least. Blue Ridge will probably be about the same.
14:22 owen        I want a place where the internet and phone can't find me...but I can find them ;)
14:21 hilongo     Over here the kids are always 'snow-disappointed' this time of the year ... cause it's summer but all the christmas 'propaganda' is snowy  :P
14:21 * chris_n2  can hardly wait to get to a place where the internet and phone cannot find him
14:21 chris_n2    yeah, we're headed to the Blue Ridge in VA next week... maybe we'll get snowed in ;-)
14:20 jwagner     I'll bet.  They're delighted here.  At least one school system has already cancelled classes until after the first of the year.
14:19 chris_n2    the children were very disappointed here :-(
14:19 chris_n2    jwagner: none here actually... 30 some inches at my parents in Madison VA (nearer to you)
14:19 chris_n2    vacation here has to wait until next week
14:19 jwagner     good morning chris_n2 -- much snow down your way?
14:18 chris_n2    g'morning all
14:18 hilongo     I have a bunch of patron without name ... from an import run where I was unable to separate firstnames from surnames ...
14:18 jwagner     Staff ID maybe?  We always set up dummy names even for those.  Sounds like it's not really breaking, just displaying funny.
14:16 * owen      wonders why he even asks himself these questions
14:16 munin       04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=2739 normal, P3, ---, jmf@liblime.com, NEW, OPAC Welcome Breaks if No First Name Avail
14:15 owen        Re: Bug 2739, why would you have a patron with no name?
14:14 hilongo     Great!
14:14 jwagner     Hi Ropuch
14:13 Ropuch      Hello everybody :)
14:13 Ropuch      Wow, All tests successful. Result: PASS in 3.0.5 make test
14:13 hilongo     very variable indeed :)
14:12 jwagner     Nope, we're all hard at work.  (For some variable definitions of "hard" and "work" that is)
14:11 hilongo     Hello everyone ... glad to see I'm not only one without vacations :)
14:10 jwagner     Thanks.  That's going to help.
14:10 jwagner     Aha!  Hadn't found that page.  I was trying to do something similar with those fields in a report, but it kept complaining.
14:07 nengard     jwagner: http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/query.cgi?help=1&format=advanced
14:07 nengard     at the bottom you can choose to see items with a specific CC
14:07 nengard     sorry - clicking the Search Link and then the Advanced Search Tab
14:06 nengard     clicking the Search link gives you lots of options
14:04 jwagner     Is there any help or hint file on bugzilla?  I haven't been able to figure out how to set up some reports.  I'd like to see all the entries where I'm cc'd, for example.
14:02 nengard     also - I want to find bugs I can actually fix so I keep reading through the bugs
14:02 nengard     nope - just doing what I was asked to do :)
14:02 nengard     LOL - there are listserv stats?
14:02 jwagner     I've been wondering if nengard was aiming to hit the top of the listserv statistics :-)
14:01 nengard     thanks jwagner - unfortunatly there are still a lot left open :(
14:01 owen        No inbox zero for me today, not with all of nengard's bug wrangling ;)
14:01 jwagner     nengard++ for all the bug wrangling
14:01 nengard     now on to documentation again :)
14:00 nengard     more bug wrangling this AM
14:00 nengard     hi all - no vaca for me either :) but we are dug out and so hubby's school was open today so he had to go to work
13:58 jwagner     But the federal government is shut down.  The apocalypse is nigh....
13:57 jwagner     Well, even if they closed the office today I'd probably be working.  No excuse if you're already set up to telework....
13:57 owen        But no sympathy for being house-bound while everyone else is too?
13:56 jwagner     Still getting around the house in a wheelchair, but I can put some weight on the foot now.
13:56 jwagner     Pretty good.  I'm mostly off the painkillers which makes for better concentration but perhaps less imagination :-)
13:55 owen        Hi jwagner, how's your recuperation going?
13:55 jwagner     Hello to all from blizzard-bound DC.
13:54 owen        The schools do here, but not libraries
13:53 paul_p2     owen: yes, libraries often have 1 or even 2 weeks.
13:53 owen        Do people usually take vacation around Christmas in France?
13:52 paul_p2     "no vacation for brave people !!!"
13:52 hdl_laptop  hi owen.
13:52 paul_p2     hello owen.
13:51 owen        Hello all non-vacationing Koha worker drones
13:27 munin       chris_n2: The operation succeeded.
13:27 chris_n2    @later tell zico check popup blockers... labels in 3.0.5 works fine here
12:51 munin       chris_n2: The current temperature in Erwin, North Carolina is -3.0�C (7:40 AM EST on December 21, 2009). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 80%. Dew Point: -6.0�C. Windchill: -3.0�C. Pressure: 30.20 in 1023 hPa (Rising).
12:51 chris_n2    @wunder 28334
11:51 zico        i need it badly! :)
11:50 zico        ok...is there anyone who can tell about Koha-3.0.5 label printing problem? :)
11:47 zico        u need to install ZOOM from cpan
11:45 CGI021      and when i try to open the opac page...browser says it does not know how to open the file...(PL) file...
11:45 CGI021      The following fatal error has occurred:Can't locate ZOOM.pm in @INC (@INC contains: /usr/share/koha/lib /etc/perl /usr/local/lib/perl/5.8.8 /usr/local/share/perl/5.8.8 /usr/lib/perl5 /usr/share/perl5 /usr/lib/perl/5.8 /usr/share/perl/5.8 /usr/local/lib/site_perl .) at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Context.pm line 85.BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Context.pm line 85.Compilation failed in require at /usr/share/
11:44 zico        i means... are there any other messages there?
11:44 zico        what koha error shows?
11:44 CGI021      so my perl modules are not installed properly or what?
11:43 CGI021      and when i try the intranet page....koha error...
11:43 CGI021      now i guess it connects..but not able to open the PL file...
11:41 zico        hope this may help you
11:41 zico        and... Staff Interace:  http://192.168.1.54:8080/
11:40 zico        say... my OPAC is : http://192.168.1.54/
11:40 zico        clear your web browser cache and put your address in address bar
11:40 CGI021      ok i shall try and get back...
11:39 zico        then... restart apache2 with /etc/init.d/apache2 restar
11:39 zico        put your machine ip there instead of "127.0.1.1"
11:39 zico        there.. you will find two lines named "<VirtualHost 127.0.1.1:80>" ... and "<VirtualHost 127.0.1.1:8080>"
11:39 CGI021      i have opened the file....
11:38 CGI021      ok
11:38 zico        go to /etc/apache2/sites-available/koha
11:38 CGI021      zico...
11:38 CGI021      YEP...
11:38 zico        no... do another thing
11:37 CGI021      i did add the lines listen 80 and 8080 to the file mentione during installation.
11:36 CGI021      no
11:36 zico        did you modify your virtualhost?
11:35 CGI021      zico...
11:35 CGI021      10.93.242.216
11:34 CGI021      laurence??
11:34 zico        what is your machine ip?
11:34 CGI021      ropcuh...
11:33 CGI021      i mean connection refused...
11:33 CGI021      with 0.0.1 page not found and 0.1.1 request not allowed....
11:31 zico        or...  http://127.0.1.1:8080/
11:31 zico        CGI021: put  http://127.0.0.1:8080/
11:31 CGI021      zico u there??
11:31 CGI021      zico
11:30 CGI021      cud somebody clarify on access of opac/intra pages...the correct syntax....
11:28 CGI021      zico..
11:27 CGI021      http:<localhost> also tried with the ip.... doesnt workk..
11:27 zico        CGI021: what did you put in your "servername" ?
11:27 CGI021      zico...i m not able to access the opac or intra pages...till 6th step of INSTALL.debian went on well...
11:25 CGI021      zico...i m not able to access the opac or intra pages...till 6th step of INSTALL.debian went on well...
11:25 zico        CGI021: yes!
11:25 CGI021      ropcuh.....i m not able to access the opac or intra pages...
11:25 zico        the thing is... when i go for label printing....  and...   when... i press "Add item(s) to batch" ... no window comes...
11:24 CGI021      cud u clarify..
11:24 zico        but.. now.. i am facing another problem in koha-3.0.5
11:24 CGI021      zico
11:24 zico        :)
11:24 zico        double biblio problem, multiple holdings physical items not showing... and other
11:23 zico        :)
11:23 zico        the problem i had been facing is gone... thanks
11:23 zico        i have installed koha-3.0.5
11:23 zico        hi
11:23 CGI021      anasha koha on debian etch.... not able to access the opac or intranet pages...kindly help...
11:05 CGI952      could somebody c larify......i am thru the six steps of debian install of koha....when i try accessing the page via the browser page not found...
11:03 CGI952      ropuch: i m able to go thru that step now...once i exec the zebraqueue start command. the daemon gets started..but i try accessing the page via the browser....page not found...kindly clarify...i have been with this for a long time now...kindly help...
10:59 CGI952      i did try the command u gave it doesnt solve the error
10:56 CGI952      ropuch...
10:56 CGI952      and then i did this  sudo /usr/share/koha/bin/koha-zebraqueue-ctl.sh start for which command not found error i got..
10:55 CGI952      sudo update-rc.d koha-zebraqueue-daemon defaults ; this i executed first
10:53 Ropuch      (from what you pasted it seems you;re missing daemon)
10:53 Ropuch      CGI952: sudo aptitude install daemon
10:52 CGI952      cud somebody clarify on the last post regarding koha on debian etch
10:48 CGI952      amit??
10:45 CGI952      koha on debian etch: failing at this point: Starting Zebraqueue Daemon/usr/share/koha/bin/koha-zebraqueue-ctl.sh: line 26: daemon: command not found could somebody help
10:08 CGI887      says something about "cannot turn off login.  access denied, you need SUPER priv for this op"
10:08 CGI887      should read... change of sql password seems to require root perms.
10:06 CGI887      change of password seems to require root perms
10:05 CGI887      ok, still stuck... on virtual machine I cannot get a root shell because of control panel that is tied to root account
09:57 CGI690      Is it OK to leave most of the fields blank in MARC records? I don't have much of the data available for most of the fields in a MARC record
09:55 hdl_laptop  To convert your data, see the wiki and look for  MarcEdit
09:55 hdl_laptop  CGI690 :koha can only import iso2709 or MARCXML so no XL spreadsheet.
09:54 hdl_laptop  And report the change in koha-conf.xml
09:54 CGI690      http://blog.chadwollenberg.com/2009/01/26/change-kohan-3-admin-password/ is a link for how to change the kohaadmin password. I have not tried it.
09:54 hdl_laptop  you have to change the mysql apssword for kohaadmin.
09:53 hdl_laptop  CGI887: to change kohaadmin password.
09:49 CGI690      I haven't even figured out how to manually add items. For a lot of material in the library, I cannot even find the ISBN.
09:48 CGI690      I have this information in tables under major headings (like fiction, youth, etc.). The tables are in OpenOffice Text format.
09:48 CGI887      you are beyond me... ive figured out how to manually add items using isbn search... thats it
09:47 CGI690      I have scanned the physical cards, which contain relatively little information: catalog number (in a simple format, not Dewey, MARC or any standard form), title, author(s), brief description, publisher and that is about it!
09:45 CGI690      I did find a link for that, but it is really quite complicated. I did find what the default password and just decided to go with it for a start
09:44 CGI887      sounds like you and I are both noobs.  :)  i'm trying to figure out how to change kohaadmin password
09:43 CGI690      Is there a simple tutorial on how to use Koha to create a very simple library system for an existing library with very basic cataloguing, and for someone who is NOT a library expert, nor a data base expert?
09:43 CGI887      690 you there?
09:34 CGI887      wanna know how to change the staff interface password for "kohaadmin"
09:33 CGI887      i'm a complete noob just messing with the virtual machine Koha dist.
09:33 CGI887      anybody out there?
09:32 hdl_laptop  chris : hi
09:19 Genji       chris, you awake still?
08:43 Ropuch      Hi chris
08:41 chris       evening
08:33 CGI781      test
07:16 Ropuch      Morning #koha
06:53 nicomo      hi Amit
06:52 Amit        heya nicomo
06:35 chris_n2    g'night koha
05:57 Genji       is it possible to swap versions of libxml2 without uninstalling/reinstalling everything?
05:54 Genji       looks like it would be impossible downgrading libxml2 without uninstallling a lot of other stuff.
05:53 Genji       Would a mismatch in versioning of LibXML compiled for 20706 but libxml2 runtime is 20702, cause a zebra indexing/search fail?
05:49 indradg     Amit, hiya!
05:49 Amit        hi indradg
05:45 munin       indradg: The current temperature in Kolkata, India is 23.0�C (10:50 AM IST on December 21, 2009). Conditions: Haze. Humidity: 44%. Dew Point: 10.0�C. Pressure: 30.09 in 1019 hPa (Falling).
05:45 indradg     @wunder Kolkata
05:07 Genji       Beware of the Voodoo.
05:07 chris_n2    indeed... very black
05:06 Genji       magical foo getting LEK to play nice, sounds like black magic.
05:04 chris_n2    Genji: btw chris_n2 = chris_n = fbcit so on and so forth
05:03 chris_n2    Genji: no... I was once upon a time in a galaxy far far away... now I'm just contracted by a third party to attempt to do some magical foo interfacing LEK with some other software
05:02 munin       Genji: No matching quotes were found.
05:02 Genji       @quote search chris_n2
05:01 Genji       hmm, chris_n2? Your Liblime developer?
04:59 chris_n2    heh... as fine as can be trying to code with both hands tied behind my back and one foot too, I think
04:58 Amit        everything is fine
04:58 chris_n2    howdy Amit
04:58 Amit        heya chris_n2
04:57 chris_n2    and wonders back off into LEK purgatory
04:56 * chris_n2  notes that 22727 is currently under about 30 some inches of snow
04:55 munin       chris_n2: The current temperature in Madison Cnty; 3 miles NE Haywood, Haywood, Virginia is -4.0�C (11:50 PM EST on December 20, 2009). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 77%. Dew Point: -7.0�C. Windchill: -4.0�C. Pressure: 30.17 in 1021.6 hPa (Rising).
04:55 chris_n2    @wunder 22727
04:55 munin       chris_n2: The current temperature in Dunn, North Carolina is -2.0�C (11:53 PM EST on December 20, 2009). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 74%. Dew Point: -6.0�C. Windchill: -2.0�C. Pressure: 29.77 in 1008.0 hPa (Steady).
04:55 chris_n2    @wunder 28334
04:47 brendan     hello amit
04:36 Genji       oh.. a new kernel is set to be installed....
04:35 Genji       oh... this isn't good. now yum update says that kernel.i686 is set to be erased!
04:29 Genji       rpmforging on.
04:29 Genji       nevermind.. got it.
04:27 Amit        yum search perl-XML-LibXML
04:25 Genji       2.6.18-164.el5PAE #1 SMP Thu Sep 3 04:10:44 EDT 2009 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux is 64 or 32 bit?
04:22 Genji       how do i know from uname -a if i have 64 bit or not?
04:16 Genji       hmm.. guess i have to search for it.
04:16 Genji       no package perl-XML-LibXML availab.e
04:06 Amit        perl-XML-LibXML
04:05 Genji       Oh? okay. whats the rpm?
04:04 Amit        u can installed by RPM package
04:04 Genji       unsure. I uninstalled LibXML via CPANPLUS, and reinstalled.. to see if the mismatch would disappear. Nope.
04:03 Amit        have u installed by rpm or CPAN package?
04:03 Genji       5.something
04:02 Genji       Centos
04:02 Amit        what os r u using?
04:02 Genji       how do i get that?
04:01 Amit        your LibXML version
04:01 Genji       What do you think, Amit?
03:59 Amit        heya Genji
03:59 Genji       Would it cause icu.xml to fail to read?
03:59 Genji       Would a mismatch in versioning of LibXML compiled for 706 but libxml2 runtime is 702, cause a zebra indexing/search fail?
03:59 Genji       hiya Amit.
03:44 Amit        good morning #koha
03:44 Amit        hi brendan, chris
03:34 Genji       Would it cause icu.xml to fail to read?
03:33 Genji       Would a mismatch in versioning of LibXML compiled for 706 but libxml2 runtime is 702, cause a zebra indexing/search fail?
03:32 Genji       Hi, im back. anyone alive?