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ah.. so doing 'not jn=55,435,34,234' is the wrong way? each journal number has to have its on jn=? |
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genji-laptop |
Yay, got the not jn query working. I was doing jn=value,value,value...... instead, its actually 'not jn=value1 not jn=value2' etc |
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CGI169 |
hey guys |
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pianohacker |
Good evening |
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CGI169 |
where are yall from |
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CGI169 |
lol im like near russia right now |
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CGI169 |
and im outside |
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CGI169 |
its freezing |
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CGI169 |
thank goodness i found a chatroom |
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CGI169 |
i cant access anything |
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CGI169 |
it's all blocked |
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genji-laptop |
chris: Liblime acquired the koha division of Katipo..... yet you are not in liblime.... who have they actually got that was in katipo? |
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chris |
no one |
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chris |
we all left |
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chris |
as have most of their staff |
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genji-laptop |
chris: ...... acquisition fail then huh? |
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CGI169 |
what is this room about |
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chris |
genji-laptop: yeah fundamentally difference philosophies on what FLOSS is about |
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chris |
different even |
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pianohacker |
CGI169: http://www.koha.org/, open source library management software |
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pianohacker |
CGI169: If you have to ask, it'll probably bore you ;) |
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CGI169 |
oh ok |
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CGI169 |
no it wont |
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genji-laptop |
CGI169: Welcome to #koha. Its a support channel for Koha.... the Open-source intergrated library system. issues, returns, renewals, patron details, overdue accounts, acquisitions.... Its all here. |
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CGI169 |
oh i see lol |
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CGI169 |
im in the military |
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CGI169 |
and i was just looking for something to do |
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genji-laptop |
the russian military? |
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CGI169 |
no |
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CGI169 |
im just located near russia |
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genji-laptop |
ah.. okay. |
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CGI169 |
US |
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ummms.... "Im not sure your supposed to be giving away your position, soldier." |
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CGI169 |
its ok |
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CGI169 |
it's a known location |
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genji-laptop |
uhhuh...... do you have a bbc news article referencing your div's deployment? |
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CGI169 |
yes |
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genji-laptop |
ah okay then. |
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CGI169 |
im jus wondering if obama has made any decision regarding the increase in troops |
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has no idea, im in NZ so dont follow the US military that much |
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* CGI169 |
didnt know lol |
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CGI169 |
i used to go on mirc back in the day |
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CGI169 |
@ dalnet |
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munin |
CGI169: Error: "dalnet" is not a valid command. |
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CGI169 |
? |
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genji-laptop |
munin = bot |
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munin |
genji-laptop: Error: "=" is not a valid command. |
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CGI169 |
lol |
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CGI169 |
alright |
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genji-laptop |
CGI169: also be aware that this channel is being logged. don't say anything that you don't want made permanantly available. |
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CGI169 |
i know |
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CGI169 |
i havent said anything important |
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Amit |
heya brendan, chris |
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CGI169 |
hi amit |
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Amit |
hi CGI169 |
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CGI169 |
where are u from |
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Amit |
I am from India u? |
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genji-laptop |
chris: so... if they failed... why don't they admit it, and sell it all back to katipo, or to a Koha foundation .... which the community is already setting up? |
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chris |
im not sure they think they failed |
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genji-laptop |
So, they succeeded.. but not in the way the community hoped, eh? |
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chris |
well i dont think they succeeded |
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chris |
im just saying i cant speak for what they think |
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genji-laptop |
ahh. |
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chris |
they certainly have succeeded in backing themselves into a corner |
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genji-laptop |
LEF = vendor lock in? |
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genji-laptop |
err.. LEK. |
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chris |
well considering you can only get it from one vendor, then yep |
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genji-laptop |
which is contary to the concept of koha..... funnily enough, they say 'no vendor lock in' on their ... 'our' website. |
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chris |
*nod* |
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pianohacker |
Your _data_ might theoretically not be locked in |
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pianohacker |
But with normal koha, you could move to a version hosted by yourself or a different vendor, and expect the same features to be available |
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pianohacker |
LEK means, in effect, feature lock-in |
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chris |
yep |
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chris |
and database changes |
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genji-laptop |
you 'could' get someone else to look at your problems. Most likely liblime because no one else would have the knowledge to fix things, right? |
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chris |
no one else has access to the code |
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pianohacker |
Well, we can offer general advice, based on guesses on what has changed |
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genji-laptop |
... isn't that against the GPL? |
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chris |
you can only get liblime to do it, its run as SaaS, they dont actually have access |
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chris |
no |
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chris |
not against the letter of GPLv2 |
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genji-laptop |
ah... System as a service...... |
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chris |
since they haven't distributed it |
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genji-laptop |
all hosted on their machines.. |
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chris |
definitely against the spirit of it |
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pianohacker |
it's against the Affero GPL, but I think that was regarded by most as a step too far in the other direction |
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chris |
*nod* |
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pianohacker |
(and would be impossible to do retroactively) |
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genji-laptop |
And if liblimes upstream internet provider goes down... how many lib's lose access to their intranet? |
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chris |
thats the problem with cloud services |
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pianohacker |
yup |
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pianohacker |
but of course that never happensâ„¢ |
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genji-laptop |
Ballpark figure, for postarity... how many? |
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pianohacker |
... libraries hosted on lek? |
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nods. |
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chris |
no idea |
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pianohacker |
Dunno. From press release volume, at least ten groups/libraries (including the ASCC consortium here in colorado, which has a fair amount of libraries) |
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genji-laptop |
anyway, got to go now. working on getting a cisco ip phone logged into asterisk. Thanks for the help and conversation, all. |
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pianohacker |
genji-laptop: glad to talk, have a good evening and good luck with the phone |
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pianohacker |
Good night |
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Ropuch |
Good morning |
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hi Ropuch |
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morning nicomo |
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Hi chris, nicomo |
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moinsen |
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hi Ropuch |
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paul_p2 |
hello world |
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paul_p2 |
chris_n++ (for the mail to Adrea Lund) |
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good morning #koha |
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heyho kf |
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greetings all. |
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kf |
hi Genji |
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Genji |
hiya kf. whats your connection to koha, im curious? |
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kf |
i m working at a German institution providing support for koha |
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nahuel |
hi all:) |
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Genji |
ah cool! |
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Amit |
heya kf, nahuel |
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nahuel |
heya |
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kf |
hi Amit and nahuel |
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kf |
Genji: and yours? ;) |
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Ropuch |
Guten Morgen, kf [; |
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kf |
hi Ropuch :) |
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Genji |
kf: Developer of Koha for a Saudi Arabian medical journal private library. |
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Genji |
so, nitty gritty coding level. |
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Genji |
worse than usual. its koha 3.0 code. not 3.04 or anything like that. |
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hdl_laptop |
Genji: are you sticking to 3.0 because you worked much on this release ? |
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Genji |
The saudi arabian library did work, making it truely Arabic compliant. (volume grammer etc, skip words like 'to' .. the arabic equivilent, ) and they are afraid of loosing their mods. That and they want features right now. They can't really afford time or $ on bringing their code up to current stable. |
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magnusenger |
hm, i'm having some zebra weirdness... i have a file with 400k marc records, and bulkmarcimport'ed 1000 records from it into a virtual machine on my desktop with the -n switch, then did rebuild_zebra. A search for "oslo" gave 350 hits. |
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magnusenger |
Then I imported 10.000 records and did rebuild_zebra: http://blogg.enger.priv.no/wp-[…]rebuild_zebra.png - then a search for "oslo" only gave 85 hits, but the number is increasing steadily |
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magnusenger |
Looks like rebuild_zebra didn't actually do much the last time, and now zebraqueue_demon is slowly indexing the records? |
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magnusenger |
from what rebuild_zebra says in the screen dump i thought running it was a success, exept for one record - could that one record have messed it all up? |
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hdl_laptop |
yes |
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hdl_laptop |
if there is a failure on one record, indexing doesnot go further |
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magnusenger |
A ha, so when it says "Records: 10000 i/u/d 9999/1/0" that means failure? |
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magnusenger |
To my uneducated eye it looks like the error message could have been a bit less discreet... ;-) |
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hdl_laptop |
no. |
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hdl_laptop |
here it says : 9999 inserted |
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hdl_laptop |
1 updated |
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hdl_laptop |
0 deleted |
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magnusenger |
hm, not sure i quite understand that, then... |
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magnusenger |
Shouldn't the 9999 inserted records be searchable? |
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hdl_laptop |
yes they should |
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magnusenger |
ah, but they are not. Indexing 1K records gives more hits for "oslo" than indexing 10K records... |
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magnusenger |
...initially, but the number is increasing slowly each time i do the search |
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hdl_laptop |
magnusenger: very strange |
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jwagner |
Good morning all. |
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kf |
good morning jwagner |
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chris_n |
g'morning |
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kf |
@karma work |
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munin |
kf: Karma for "work" has been increased 0 times and decreased 1 time for a total karma of -1. |
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jdavidb |
harrrrumph! |
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jdavidb |
work-- |
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kf |
hi jdavidb |
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jdavidb |
Hi, kf. :) |
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kf |
work-- #for imp |
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kf |
@karma work |
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munin |
kf: Karma for "work" has been increased 0 times and decreased 3 times for a total karma of -3. |
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imp |
:D |
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jwagner |
@karma vacation |
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munin |
jwagner: vacation has neutral karma. |
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jwagner |
vacation++ |
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paul_p |
good morning USA ! |
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jwagner |
Bonjour Europe! |
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nengard |
moring paul |
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nengard |
and all |
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jdavidb |
vacation++ #agrees with jwagner, even though he doesn't know what a vacation looks like... |
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paul_p |
nengard: moring, really ? I don't know what it means, but thank you :D :D |
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nengard |
oh boy - it's still early and my fingers are very cold - hard to type :) |
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jwagner |
You sure that's not mooring, as in mooring a boat? |
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jwagner |
(und Guten Tag, kf) |
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paul_p |
jwagner: there's a see in Marseille, so maybe it's mooring. But I don't have any boat... |
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jdavidb |
Howdy, owen! |
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owen |
Hi |
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owen |
nengard around? |
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nengard |
yup |
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schuster |
I am looking for a way to know what the next bib number is or the last one? suggestions? |
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schuster |
So great to have her around... nengard... ;) |
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owen |
Hi nengard, I've got a question about the Koha Facebook page |
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owen |
I just got a tweet from the kohails account pointing to this page: http://www.facebook.com/note.p[…]32171335&comments |
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owen |
(yeah I know it's in another language) |
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owen |
But the thing is...there's no URL or anything |
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owen |
It's confusing even for posts in English! |
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nengard |
hmmm - hang on |
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nengard |
owen - are you referring to the most recent tweet : http://twitter.com/kohails |
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nengard |
if so it's an update to the wiki - I pull the wiki RSS feed in and that's the link it generates - is there a better feed to pull in? I found it confusing at first too - but this way you're taking to the page that lists what has changed |
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owen |
Sorry, I'm getting my social media updates mixed up |
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owen |
I guess it was a Facebook notification, because the link I followed took me to the Facebook page above |
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owen |
The "Koha Integrated Library System's Notes" page on Facebook. |
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owen |
Oh wait, now I see it |
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owen |
There's a "View Original Post" link. That's what I wasn't seeing. |
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owen |
Never mind! |
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nengard |
:) |
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nengard |
no prob - and you're right - the same content is sent to Facebook & to Twitter |
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nengard |
I use the Yahoo! Pipe to feed them all |
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nengard |
http://pipes.yahoo.com/nengard/kohablogs |
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Melanie |
Hi. Does anyone use Amazon.com for the book jackets/reviews? Our reviews don't seem show up. |
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hdl_laptop |
which version are you using ? |
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Melanie |
3.01.00.032 |
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Colin |
are you seeing none at all or just very rare ones? |
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owen |
Melanie: I think Amazon content is broken for all LibLime customers who haven't been migrated to LEK |
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owen |
We're on the same version (last updated sometime in June) |
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jdavidb |
"it's a *feature*!" :P |
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nengard |
LOL |
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nengard |
jdavidb is a trouble maker - but he's a funny trouble maker :) hehe |
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nengard |
anyway - Melanie - I believe biblibre fixed that issue with Amazon Reviews with a patch that is available in the most recent version of Koha |
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nengard |
and will obviously be in 3.2 |
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hdl_laptop |
3.0.4_fixed and 3.0.5 already integrates those things |
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paul_p |
Melanie: 3.0.5 will be released soon, don't try to get it now ;-) |
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owen |
Melanie is a LibLime hosted customer, so it's not up to her ;) |
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paul_p |
Melanie: LL customers with official Koha are still with 3.0.2 (dunno the reason, except to try to convince ppl to move to LEK) |
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In LibLime's defense (gasp!), their goal is to get all their customers on the same version. I just disagree about which version that should be. |
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owen |
I sympathize with their desire to keep things simple by keeping their customers on the same version. I imagine other support companies face the same challenge. |
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Colin |
I think every vendor's tried and all have failed |
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jwagner |
Certainly one of the issues I have is that apart from the actual codebase various customers want individual screen changes ranging from the very simple to the very complex. |
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owen |
jwagner: And you don't just say no? :) |
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paul_p |
jwagner: in this case we say: "OK, but you won't be in standard koha, and that will cost €X to maintain" ( X being BIG ;-) ) |
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jwagner |
We try to accomodate where possible. (But I have been known to say NO! to a few things.) I need to go back and see if any of them can be handled through jquery, but there will still be some local template changes to merge with whatever the baseline code is. |
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paul_p |
it's better than just say "no", and our customers understand quickly the caveat |
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Colin |
So many customers seem to interpret a no as yes and its my top priority |
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jwagner |
Amazing how customers have selective hearing problems like that :-) |
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paul_p |
Colin: lol... |
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* jdavidb |
isn't saying *nuffin* about certain customers from New Jersey... |
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paul_p |
sometime, we also say : "ohhh... it could be a good idea, but, well, it's too frenchy, and the community will never accept that" |
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paul_p |
( a trick you can't use ;-) ) |
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jwagner |
A lot of the fiddly patches I've sent out for display changes are stuff that customers have asked for. If more than one asks for the same thing, I figure it's worth doing as a patch. |
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paul_p |
(you could try "it's too US, the frenchies won't like that", but i'm not sure it will work...) |
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jwagner |
paul_p, but we could say "it's too Yank!" :-) |
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bebbi |
Hallo kf |
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kf |
bebbi: hello bebbi |
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bebbi |
Hallo. Gerade eine Sekunde Zeit? Man sagte mir, du k�nntest mir vielleicht helfen ... |
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bebbi |
Aber da warst du nicht online hier im Chat ... |
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paul_p |
hey, fun, I can still understand a few german ;-) |
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paul_p |
(learned at school 24 years ago) |
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bebbi |
That's fine ... :-) |
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kf |
bebbi: um was geht es? hatte gerade noch ein kurzes Meeting |
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owen |
paul_p: It was almost as long ago that I studied French |
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Melanie |
thanks for the info. |
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nengard |
sorry we weren't of more help :( |
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paul_p |
Melanie: Hélas, i'm afraid we will have to write that more and more ( LEK is not Koha ) :'(((( |
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bebbi |
Also: ich habe XP und will koha installieren. Die letzte windows Version ist schon etwas �lter, weil es wohl Portierungsprobleme gibt. Wir hatten hier im Chat dann soweit �berelgt, das dei einzige sinnvolle M�glichkeit h�chstens sein k�nnte eine virtuele maschine zu installieren und das Image von koha als Laufwerk da einzubinden *sowas noch nie gemacht hab* (Einen Server habe ich nicht zur Verf�gung). Aber die Mitdiskutanten war |
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bebbi |
en der Meinung, ich solle dich noch mal fragen ... ich will die aktuelle Version halt vor allem auch deswegen, weil es da ja die deutsche Benutzeroberfl�che gibt ... |
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Melanie |
yea..... |
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kf |
bebbi: soweit ich weiss war die letzte lauffähige version unter windows 2.2.0 |
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kf |
2.2.9 |
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bebbi |
Paul_p: Seven years and a half ago i had my last english lesson at school and i was'nt good ... To iinterpret a text is even in German nothink for me ... :-( |
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paul_p |
bebbi: you should come here more often, you'll learn English + get some help from all around the world (from france -me-) to USA - nengard, jdavidb, jwagner, owen - and New Zealand - chris - |
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paul_p |
hi Nate, 'morning |
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Nate |
Hiya paul_p! |
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* jdavidb |
waves a greeting to bebbi. |
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bebbi |
Paul_p: i don't know so much words ... and - I think so - the problem ist, that you doesn't learn to talk in reality outside the school ... |
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jdavidb |
bebbi, I can understand you very well. :) |
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jdavidb |
(And I don't have any other languages, besides English.) |
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jwagner |
jdavidb, that's not true. You speak Texan! |
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kf |
:) |
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jdavidb |
harrrumph! |
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Nate |
and a good morning to everyone! |
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jwagner |
heh, heh |
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paul_p |
mine was quite good, thanks Nate ;-) |
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kf |
good morning Nate |
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kf |
bebbi: sometimes I think everybody here knows at least a little German |
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jwagner |
I had about a year's worth of German in college, but I've forgotten most of it. Ich spreche nur ein bischen Deutsch... |
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kf |
jwagner: which is a perfect German sentence :) |
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jwagner |
I think I'm missing some diacritics, and I'm not sure about the spelling, but it gets the meaning across.... |
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jwagner |
I learned just enough German to travel in Germany without being totally lost if I needed directions or help. |
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kf |
jwagner: where have you been in Germany? |
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bebbi |
Jdavidb: I think, i make so much mistakes ... but I say to me "If the people unterstand you, it's all right :-) " |
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bebbi |
Jdavidb: I had to (It's the right past to must, or?) leard alidle bit of latin and old-greek and old-hebrew - but it's "f�r die Tonne" we say in Germany (means: you can't do anythink with it) |
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kf |
bye #koha :) |
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magnusenger |
hm, i've been seeing a bit of this lately: "DBD::mysql::db do failed: The total number of locks exceeds the lock table size at /usr/share/koha/bin/migration_tools/bulkmarcimport.pl line 116." Anyone got an idea what i'm doing or not doing wrong? |
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hdl_laptop |
magnusenger: are you trying to bulkimport while having rebuild_zebra crojob active ? |
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paul_p |
magnusenger: it's a truncate biblio on a large DB |
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paul_p |
? |
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magnusenger |
hdl_laptop: yup, not a good idea? |
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paul_p |
not a good idea, definetly ;-) |
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magnusenger |
paul_p: yes, about 400k records |
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hdl_laptop |
you might end up screwing your server |
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hdl_laptop |
because you start rebuild_zebra over and over again. |
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paul_p |
the foreign key constraint on biblio/biblioitems/items make truncate biblio fail on large DB. I had to do "DELETE FROM items WHERE biblionumber > 300 000" |
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paul_p |
the > 200 000, then 100 000, then biblioitems, then biblio |
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hdl_laptop |
rebuild_zebra cronjob should test whether a previous job is running or not |
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paul_p |
a little bit slower, but works |
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paul_p |
(another possibility I didn't try would be to do : SET FOREIGN_KEY_CHECK=0, then truncate biblio,biblioitems,items, then SET FOREIGN_KEY_CHECK=1 |
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hdl_laptop |
but at the moment doesnot do that. |
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magnusenger |
hdl_laptop: actually, i don't have rebuild_zebra running from cron, but i have the two daemons, which may be the same thing? |
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paul_p |
( magnusenger you've 2 solutions for 1 problem ...) |
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magnusenger |
paul_p: a "luxury problem" as we say in Norwegian... |
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hdl_laptop |
magnusenger: mmm koha-zebraqueue-ctl.sh is really slow to index. |
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magnusenger |
hdl_laptop: well, seems to do the job quite well for my customer with 13K records... |
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hdl_laptop |
12000 biblios is not the same as 400000 |
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magnusenger |
hdl_laptop: am i right in thinking that koha-zebraqueue-ctl.sh could interfere with bulkmarcimport.pl in the same way as rebuild_zebra.pl? |
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magnusenger |
hdl_laptop: true that! ;-) |
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magnusenger |
so: i'll try deleting from biblio,biblioitems,items "by hand", stopping cronjobs and queue-daemons and then try to import/index again. Thanks for these tips! |
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bebbi |
Jwagner: " I learned just enough German to travel in Germany without being totally lost if I needed directions or help." I think, that's enough ... some months ago in was in the rench speeking Swiss ... and i ask a postman if he can change my money ... but i cann't french and he only french ... :-( |
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jwagner |
bebbi, Ich verstehe le probleme :-) |
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bebbi |
:-) |
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Rob |
Does anyone know of a Koha implementation in or around Zambia? |
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Melanie |
Can anyone give me a KOHA library site that the amazon reviews work on? |
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brendan |
Melanie http://demo.bywatersolutions.com |
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brendan |
http://demo.bywatersolutions.c[…]iblionumber=12307 |
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Melanie |
thanks |
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chris |
Melanie: do you have a syspref set for AWSPrivateKey ? |
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chris |
since august, amazon have required that, and reviews simply dont work unless you have that set |
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chris |
i just tested with mine http://opac.koha.workbuffer.or[…]pl?biblionumber=6 |
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chris |
was getting no reviews until i set that system preference |
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* chris |
will bbiab |
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* nengard |
watching coda try to catch the annoying fly that has been nagging us |
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nengard |
hehe |
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owen |
nengard: I had a dog do that with a bee, and after that she was afraid of anything that flew and buzzed. |
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nengard |
awwww :( |
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nengard |
bees I get out of the house ASAP - flies I just ignore until they die |
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nengard |
one of the things you learn to deal with with dogs - always opening and closing the doors |
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wizzyrea |
oh, melanie |
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wizzyrea |
you are on liblime, we don't have that option yet |
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wizzyrea |
it's not in our codebase |
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wizzyrea |
for the aws key |
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wizzyrea |
NEKLS doesn't have it either. |
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wizzyrea |
(very annoying) |
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* jdavidb |
waves at wizzyrea. |
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* wizzyrea |
waves at jdavidb "hiya!" |
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jdavidb |
:) |
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Genji |
And with liblime, no instant new features. you'll have to wait until they add it. Why are you using liblime? |
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wizzyrea |
Gengi: we got in before it sucked. |
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Genji |
Ah, and now your stuck with it, can't go back? |
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wizzyrea |
Gengi: we're not particularly happy about the current state of affairs. |
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wizzyrea |
Gengi: we are discussing our options at this point. |
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Genji |
What features does liblime do that koha does not? |
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sekjal |
Genji: Liblime Enterprise Koha, their customers-only fork, has a new Acquisitions interface, support for MARC format for Holdings Data, and course reserves, apparently |
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wizzyrea |
http://www.liblime.com/product[…]lek-release-notes |
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sekjal |
I assume it's got a few other unique features, as well |
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wizzyrea |
http://www.liblime.com/product[…]lution-comparison |
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wizzyrea |
do note that the comparison is for 3.0.0, not 3.0.4-5 |
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wizzyrea |
and certainly isn't comparable to current head. |
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sekjal |
wizzyrea: I thought it was 3.0.2 they were running as "community" |
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sekjal |
at any rate, it's getting more out of date by the day |
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wizzyrea |
it may be, but that's not what they're comparing |
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wizzyrea |
but I will double check |
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* Genji |
laughs.. "They say "no vendor lock in" on the table under Enterprise edition." |
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wizzyrea |
sorry, sekjal, you're right, they claim they are running 3.0.2 |
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brendan |
heya sekjal wizzyrea |
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wizzyrea |
hey brendan |
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nengard |
kind of funny huh Genji |
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Genji |
Funny... no. false advertising, yes. |
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nengard |
was being sarcastic - i'm with you on this |
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sekjal |
hey, brendan |
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Genji |
Im thinking, what does liblime think of all this chatter against liblime? do they even care? |
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wizzyrea |
my theory is that they think they have the superior product, and much like Automattic did with Wordpress, they want their version to become the canonical version, releasing it free while using their proprietary version as their hosted version (like wordpress.com) |
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wizzyrea |
and yea, I think they do probably care. |
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chris |
cake and eat it too springs to mind |
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chris |
aka being greedy dicks |
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* Genji |
omg's. "Can't believe you actually said that. Never thought I'd see that on #koha.... now recorded for all postarity." |
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chris |
yep, id say it to their face too |
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chris |
they have made life much harder than it needs to be for hundreds of people |
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Genji |
But you are right.... if they were a person, (in new zealand, companies become an entity, a legal person.. so lets play with it.) I'd call them egotistical, prideful, greedy ($299 for Koha Express, and then they want us to support it.), and self-serving. |
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chris |
i think greedy dicks is actually quite mild |
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jdavidb |
chris++ |
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Genji |
Thats $299 USD btw.... |
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Genji |
And then they want to charge for Koha Community Edition. |
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sekjal |
technical question: I'm running a second installation of Koha (a dev install for testing, vs. my pre-existing production installation). Apparently, for the second instance of Zebra, I need different ports |
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sekjal |
is there a standard scheme for designating secondary Zebra ports? Add 10,000 or something? |
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Genji |
@karma liblime |
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munin |
Genji: liblime has neutral karma. |
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Genji |
liblime-- |
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wizzyrea |
lol |
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Genji |
@karma liblime |
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munin |
Genji: Karma for "liblime" has been increased 0 times and decreased 1 time for a total karma of -1. |
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Genji |
@karma katipo |
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munin |
Genji: katipo has neutral karma. |
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Genji |
katipo++ |
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Genji |
Katipo wins. |
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wizzyrea |
interesting that particular karma adjustment had never been done |
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Genji |
Its probably never been thought of. |
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wizzyrea |
oh I'm sure it has lol |
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wizzyrea |
just not executed for whatever reason |
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Genji |
Where was liblime before Koha? |
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sekjal |
it wasn't |
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* chris |
is waiting for a stock to list before he can go to work |
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chris |
liblime grew out of athens county public library |
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Genji |
And became a monster of its own. |
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wizzyrea |
a fine enough institution, I might add |
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chris |
the first US public library to run koha |
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Genji |
Any members of the library still in liblime? |
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chris |
and for the first couple of years they were awesome, we cant forget liblime did do a lot of good things |
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sekjal |
they absolutely did |
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wizzyrea |
ACPL still is hosted by LL |
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wizzyrea |
for now |
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sekjal |
its only the last several months that have been so horrid |
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chris |
yeah since about this time last year |
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* Genji |
loves the "for now" qualifier. |
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wizzyrea |
i use that one a lot. :P |
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* chris |
first met joshua in 2002, when he had long hair and talked about freedom |
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chris |
i miss that joshua |
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Genji |
But i mean, the development staff of liblime... any of them still part of ACPL? |
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wizzyrea |
not that I am aware of |
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Genji |
or vs versa? |
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chris |
im not sure they have any development staff anymore |
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chris |
all the ones i know have left |
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wizzyrea |
well, there's kados and ryan |
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Genji |
So...... its a dead horse. |
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owen |
Josh left ACPL to start LibLime. |
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owen |
No other ACPL people left. |
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wizzyrea |
enough of a juggernaut by some estimations to hijack an entire open source ILS |
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chris |
has anyone seen ryan ? |
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Genji |
@seen ryan |
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munin |
Genji: ryan was last seen in #koha 21 weeks, 5 days, 23 hours, 48 minutes, and 30 seconds ago: * ryan Ryan Higgins, LibLime |
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Genji |
Not in recent history. |
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Genji |
@seen joshua |
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munin |
Genji: I have not seen joshua. |
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wizzyrea |
@seen kados |
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munin |
wizzyrea: I have not seen kados. |
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sekjal |
@seen jmf |
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munin |
sekjal: I have not seen jmf. |
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Genji |
@seen Josh |
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munin |
Genji: I have not seen Josh. |
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sekjal |
@seen Titanic |
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munin |
sekjal: I have not seen Titanic. |
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chris |
263 days |
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sekjal |
me neither |
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wizzyrea |
pity. |
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wizzyrea |
;) |
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wizzyrea |
@seen Star Trek |
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munin |
wizzyrea: (seen [<channel>] <nick>) -- Returns the last time <nick> was seen and what <nick> was last seen saying. <channel> is only necessary if the message isn't sent on the channel itself. |
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wizzyrea |
aww |
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wizzyrea |
i would get an error on that one |
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jdavidb |
nice try, wizzyrea |
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wizzyrea |
ty |
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owen is now known as owen-away |
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wizzyrea |
afk, lunch |
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* jdavidb |
thumps munin on the forehead. |
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Genji |
@seen genji-laptop |
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munin |
Genji: genji-laptop was last seen in #koha 15 hours, 11 minutes, and 27 seconds ago: <genji-laptop> anyway, got to go now. working on getting a cisco ip phone logged into asterisk. Thanks for the help and conversation, all. |
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Genji is now known as StarTrek |
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* jdavidb |
raises an eyebrow. |
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chris |
sekjal: to answer you question, no, no standard scheme |
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chris |
pick a port not in use :) |
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StarTrek |
Space, the final frontier. These are the voyages of Space: the final frontier. These are the voyages of the starship Enterprise. Its five-year mission: to explore strange new worlds, to seek out new life and new civilizations; to boldly go where no man has gone before. |
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StarTrek |
@seen StarTrek |
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munin |
StarTrek: StarTrek was last seen in #koha 5 seconds ago: <StarTrek> Space, the final frontier. These are the voyages of Space: the final frontier. These are the voyages of the starship Enterprise. Its five-year mission: to explore strange new worlds, to seek out new life and new civilizations; to boldly go where no man has gone before. |
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StarTrek is now known as Genji |
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chris |
and it looks like your koha talk got accepted sekjal :) |
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Genji |
Now, munin has seen startrek. |
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sekjal |
chris: thanks. and yes, perhaps I did... haven't gotten an email one way or the other, but I'm hopeful |
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* jdavidb |
groans. |
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sekjal |
not that that would stop me from speaking; it just gives me 15 extra minutes |
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chris |
:) |
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chris |
ok stock is showing, time to catch my bus |
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chris |
bbiab |
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sekjal |
I had not looked at Kete too closely before, but I think I might want to roll it together with a home Koha install... its neat |
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brendan |
yes Kete is very nice |
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sekjal |
jdavidb: did you have any time to play with a turnkeylinux.org Koha appliance in the last week? |
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jdavidb |
I've barely had time to do *laundry* in the last week. It's been pretty brisk around here. |
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sekjal |
jdavidb: totally understand. I'm trying to find ways of making my horrendous commute home more productive, and was looking into turnkeylinux |
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sekjal |
I really want to do a home installation of Koha (and maybe now Kete), but I'm never home, and there isn't reliable internet on the train |
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jdavidb |
I'd like to work on my commute, but it's too broken-up. I could do a lot in virtual-boxes, maybe, but a fifteen-minute bus ride, and ten minutes standing on a train, then a five minute ride...naah. |
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sekjal |
yeah, I suppose I do have some luck that my trip is only three legs, the middle being over an hour and a half |
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jdavidb |
I wouldn't call that "luck" myself. |
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sekjal |
its not a forever thing.... though I recall saying that a year ago.... |
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jdavidb |
heh. |
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chris |
back |
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Genji |
hmm.... you use 'screen' to keep the same irc session? |
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chris |
yep |
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Genji |
What is work, anyhow, chris? Catalyst website doesn't mention you. |
| 19:51 |
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chris |
yeah there are 108 staff at catalyst, most of them aren't on the website |
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chris |
i work on the fairfax team, doing stuff.co.nz (the infrastructure not the content) |
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chris |
as well as koha work |
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sekjal |
oooh, I get to talk up Koha to another area library. I love that part of my job! |
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Genji |
Ah cool! |
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Genji |
(to both chris and sekjal.) |
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chris |
sekjal: ohh excellent |
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sekjal |
I'm drafting up my answers to their preliminary questions on selection, installation, and usage/reporting right now. |
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sekjal |
I'm sure more will come up as we talk (always do) |
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bebbi |
Hi. I want to use http://intranet.bywatersolutions.com/ (Username = bywater Password = bywater ) to try koha before installing. Do somebody of you know, why the Impotz with Z39.50 dosen't work? |
| 19:59 |
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brendan |
yeah I've got an error on that server :) |
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bebbi |
I get the error-information "Koha error |
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bebbi |
The following fatal error has occurred: |
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bebbi |
Can't call method "add_subfields" on an undefined value at /home/koha/kohaclone/cataloguing/addbiblio.pl line 141." |
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brendan |
give me a sec and I can fix that up for you |
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bebbi |
thx |
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Godzilla8NJ |
Does anyone know if my browser crashed while doing a large import (under Manage import) did it rollback, continue or corrupt it? |
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bebbi |
How long is your sec? :-) *kindly ask* |
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schuster |
gozilla8nj - not sure - but you should be able to load it again and it won't do much depending on your match points usually it won't load items if they are already in the system. |
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Godzilla8NJ |
schuster - thx. i'm importing almost 30k records (project gutenberg) and i'd hate to overload system by duplicating work if it's still running. any way to check? |
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Genji |
Godzilla8NJ: Try 'top' |
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Godzilla8NJ |
genji, pretty much a koha virgin here...using koha for a library school project...not sure what you mean by 'top'? |
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sekjal |
godzilla8nj: do you have command line access to your Koha installation? |
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Genji |
Ahh. good question, sekjal. |
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Godzilla8NJ |
i do. |
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sekjal |
ah, good. in that case, it might be easier for you to use bulkmarcimport.pl to do the initial data load |
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sekjal |
its a commandline tool usually found in misc/migration_tools |
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Godzilla8NJ |
fair enough, so: roll back my server, wget the pj marc zip, and bulk import it? |
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Godzilla8NJ |
(pj = pg) |
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sekjal |
I'd recommend that over the GUI import method. Are the MARC records in the PG zip separate files, or in batches? |
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sekjal |
bulkmarcimport.pl loads the contents of a single file at a time |
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Godzilla8NJ |
it's a single batch file. i think that's the way to go. last question, i did this all before (imported pg records using bulk tool at cmd line) but when i added records i suddenly found myself staring at the following msg when i tried a search: Can't call method "as_usmarc" on an undefined value at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Search.pm line 2133. Which I think has to do with indexing but am not sure. |
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sekjal |
Godzilla8NJ: did you get this error only when you added more records, or after the initial bulk load? |
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Godzilla8NJ |
i tried a gui import of several records, it failed, and i started seeing that. |
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sekjal |
are you running Zebra, or without? |
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Godzilla8NJ |
with. |
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sekjal |
and you did the initial indexing after loading by running rebuild_zebra.pl -b? |
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Godzilla8NJ |
did but after the crash it threw some errors. i felt lost, cold and alone so i just did a rebuild. |
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sekjal |
did you have rebuild_zebra.pl running as a cron job every X minutes? |
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Godzilla8NJ |
i did not, was just running it manually |
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sekjal |
ok |
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sekjal |
odd... its not apparent to me what caused search to stop working after you GUI-loaded those additional records... something about the MARC? |
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sekjal |
file permissions, perhaps? I'm speculating wildly |
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sekjal |
were you always running rebuild_zebra.pl as your Koha user, or did you run it as another user at some point? |
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Godzilla8NJ |
as another user |
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sekjal |
that might be it; running it as a different user changes the ownerships of the files, and has tripped me up before |
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Godzilla8NJ |
ah, ok. will be aware in the future. thx. going to try bulk import now. many thx to all. |
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sekjal |
good luck, Godzilla8NJ! let us know if you need any further assistance |
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jwagner |
it |
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jransom |
hi George |
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GeorgeSue |
Hi Jo |
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jransom |
Chris: you about |
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chris |
yep |
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jransom |
hey the koha meeting is friday night? |
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jransom |
or tonight? |
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jransom |
I saw on the wiki and the time convertor i checked said it would be tonight |
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Genji |
What time, nz time? |
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sekjal |
I think that's accurate; my calendar reads it early tomorrow morning, in about 12.5 hours. |
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chris |
thats the devel meeting jo |
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chris |
there are 2 meetings |
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chris |
the devel meeting is at 11pm tonight |
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Genji |
11pm nz time? |
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chris |
yes |
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Genji |
Sweet! |
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jransom |
the message on my screen in this irc says its 3rd december |
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chris |
thats the foundation meeting |
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wizzyrea |
foundation forming |
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chris |
| Next foundation forming meeting is scheduled at 19:00 UTC 3rd december |
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chris |
thats a different meeting |
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chris |
7am for us friday morning |
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chris |
(us being nz) |
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jransom |
I'd like to introduce George Sue |
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jransom |
he is our library trustee who led the development of koha back in 1999 |
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jransom |
he is the HLT represntative who has been appointed to work with the koha community going forward |
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jransom |
and I am hoping he will join us for the community meeting - so he is learning how to use irc :) |
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brendan |
Hi GeorgeSue |
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brendan |
welcome |
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sekjal |
hello, GeorgeSue |
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wizzyrea |
hi GeorgeSue :) |
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Genji |
Cool Welcome GeorgeSue. |
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Genji |
GeorgeSue++ |
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* Genji |
wonders if he can increase karma privately, instead of spamming channel. |
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jransom |
(George won't know what ++ means :) |
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GeorgeSue |
Hello to everyone in the Koha Community, I am just learning, please excuse |
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Genji |
@karma GeorgeSue |
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munin |
Genji: Karma for "GeorgeSue" has been increased 1 time and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 1. |
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Genji |
@karma rach |
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munin |
Genji: rach has neutral karma. |
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* Genji |
huhs..... |
| 21:35 |
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Genji |
@seen rach |
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munin |
Genji: rach was last seen in #koha 9 weeks, 4 days, 14 hours, 55 minutes, and 0 seconds ago: * rach is contemplating a trip to guntur at christmas (which is near-ish to hyderabad) |
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Genji |
@karma chris |
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munin |
Genji: Karma for "chris" has been increased 78 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 78. |
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Genji |
Not that anyone really keeps tabs on their karma. |
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wizzyrea |
@karma wizzyrea |
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munin |
wizzyrea: Karma for "wizzyrea" has been increased 21 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 21. |
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wizzyrea |
except for me >.> |
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* Genji |
facepalms. |
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wizzyrea |
j/k |
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wizzyrea |
gengi++ /for funniness |
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Genji |
.... |
| 21:38 |
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Genji |
its GenJi.... Genji.. |
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* wizzyrea |
faceepalms |
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wizzyrea |
sorry sorry |
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Genji |
Gengi in Icelandish means 'original meaning' |
| 21:39 |
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wizzyrea |
Genji++ /for ... awesomeness? |
| 21:40 |
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Genji |
Genji is japanese, meaning commoner. Its from the Tale of Genji, a first novel in history, written by Lady Murasaki Shikibu. About a son of a courtisan, and the emperor, which of course being an illegitamate child, he can't really be a prince. Yet, hes very much part of court life... so you get a fair understanding of what it was like, back then. |
| 21:42 |
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Genji |
Huge book... I only read one volume of a two volume set... which I returned to the Kyoto Sanggyo University Office Library.. and then they shut up shop, so I can't ever read the same translation again.... unless I remember who translated it. Very fustrating. |
| 21:42 |
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wizzyrea |
yikes, sounds frustrating |
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brendan |
@wunder 93117 |
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munin |
brendan: The current temperature in Northwest Goleta, Goleta, California is 16.3�C (1:38 PM PST on December 01, 2009). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 71%. Dew Point: 11.0�C. Pressure: 29.89 in 1012.1 hPa (Falling). |
| 21:44 |
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Genji |
Translation was beautiful. Poems as original as possible to the original, while keeping all its cultural references in footnotes, instead of translating the poems as meaning, depriving it of cultural context. |
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chris |
hi GeorgeSue |
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wizzyrea |
oh that does sound nice. The japanese language definitely lends itself to poetry. Do you speak japanese? |
| 21:47 |
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Genji |
Only a tiny bit. |
| 21:48 |
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Genji |
Not enough to be convincing as to get a japanese person to mistake that I know japanese, and then talk over my head. |
| 21:48 |
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wizzyrea |
hehe! |
| 21:48 |
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Genji |
Wo betide someone who says 'moshi moshi' or 'Wei!' on the telephone in NZ. |
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* paul_p |
heads to bed. Have a good day, morning, night, whatsoever #koha |
| 21:48 |
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brendan |
night paul_p |
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chris |
wei ni hao |
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chris |
ni hao ma |
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Genji |
wu leao. |
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* chris |
has forgotten far more mandarin than he ever knew |
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* Genji |
nodnods. |
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Genji |
Did nightschool Chinese class a long time ago. |
| 21:50 |
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Genji |
Japanese too. |
| 21:50 |
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schuster |
see ya - won't be up at the meeting in the morning sorry can't wait to read about it when I get to work! Just can't wait for it to be released really! |
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chris |
mine is just from a couple of visits to china, have a little bit of cantonese from visits to hong kong |
| 21:50 |
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chris |
my sister did her masters at shanghai university |
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Genji |
OMG... you visited china. Cool. Ive never set foot out of the country. |
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chris |
Japan too |
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chris |
i made a deal with myself in my first year of uni, once i graduated i would travel overseas at least once every year |
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chris |
i graduated with my 2nd degree in 97 and have managed to keep the deal :) |
| 21:53 |
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Genji |
My coding isn't that good, to be of note, nor my diplomacy. So neither have I landed a well paying job nor become an ambassador for Koha. |
| 21:53 |
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Genji |
So, travel is not likely. |
| 21:54 |
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chris |
my first travel for koha, was to ohio |
| 21:54 |
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Genji |
What doing? |
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chris |
which i paid for from mileage points |
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chris |
meeting with owen, stephen and joshua from ACPL |
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Genji |
Cool. |
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chris |
and presenting at the ohio library conference, and the thinklinunx conference in toledo |
| 21:55 |
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* chris |
doesnt very often get paid to travel for koha |
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chris |
i think 3 times |
| 21:56 |
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sekjal |
sent in my first grant application for funding to go to KohaCon. working on a couple more |
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chris |
w00t |
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chris |
ok, i gotta go do meetings and stuff |
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sekjal |
cheers, chris |
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sekjal |
I've got to get moving, myself. groceries, train, kitchen |
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Genji |
find (rk=( kw,wrdl="school")) and yr,st-numeric=2008 gives me 'error: extra token' in a find (with lang ccl2rpn set).... whats wrong with it? |
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Genji |
It looks right... |
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Genji |
nevermind... oops. querytype.. not lang. |
| 22:13 |
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Genji |
ahh... interesting... pubdate query doesn't work if st-numeric is specified... |
| 22:25 |
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Genji |
and its a known problem in #koha.... was it fixed? |
| 22:31 |
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Genji |
whats the proper way to do match if pubdate > year? |
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bebbi |
Byebye :-) |
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Ian |
...would like the SQL for datelastborrowed <* or NULL.....getting screwy results from my efforts (eg changing the ccode's of the results) |
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Ian |
forgot to say please :-(... |
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* chris_n2 |
sets up extra coffee for the meeting later/tomorrow |
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chris_n2 |
Ian: try SELECT * FROM items WHERE datelastborrowed < '2009-12-01' OR NULL; |
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Ian |
thanks Chris...that's what i had but the OR seemed to trump the ccode criteria i had set. tried bracketing, still no |
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Ian |
i will go nibble on toast... |
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chris_n2 |
Ian: 'SELECT * FROM items WHERE (datelastborrowed < '2009-12-01' OR NULL) AND ccode <> NULL\G' returns an empty set for me which is correct since all ccode's are NULL in my development db |
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Genji |
melm 260$c pubdate:y,pubdate:s,pubdate:n,pubdate:w,copydate,copydate:s .... this line correct? or is there a reason in this line, that my searching for a range or > <es fails? |
