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chris_n2 |
ftherese: any luck? |
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Nate |
Ok time to sign out for the day gnight #koha! |
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chris_n2 |
argghh... |
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chris_n2 |
ok perl wizards, I'm stumped |
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pastebot |
"chris_n" at 192.168.15.101 pasted "array weirdness" (210 lines) at http://paste.workbuffer.org/43 |
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chris_n2 |
any thoughts on what causes this weirdness? |
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chris |
hmmm |
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chris |
dunno, but it's a bunch easier to read if you do |
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chris |
http://paste.workbuffer.org/43[…]submit=Format+it! |
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chris_n2 |
yeah |
| 01:54 |
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chris_n2 |
no matter how I cut it it always appears to modify the same array contents |
| 01:55 |
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chris_n2 |
rather than undef'ing the array each pass |
| 01:56 |
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chris |
$field_font = _set_selected( $font_types, $field_params->{'font'} ); |
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chris |
its always passing the same array in |
| 01:57 |
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chris |
so you are dumping hte same array, each time its passed into _set_selected |
| 01:57 |
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chris_n2 |
right, it should be, but what's coming out should only have one 'selected' => 1 |
| 01:57 |
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chris |
well nothing is unselecting it |
| 01:57 |
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chris |
thats a ref to an array being passed in, and being returned |
| 01:58 |
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chris |
it will just keep setting selected=1 for ever |
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chris_n2 |
ahhh |
| 01:58 |
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chris |
nothing is unsetting it |
| 01:58 |
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chris_n2 |
the arrayref is the same... boy did I miss that one |
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chris |
if you see what what i mean |
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chris_n2 |
since I'm passing the ref and not the actual array |
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chris |
*nod* |
| 01:59 |
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chris_n2 |
so I need to deref it to unset it, correct? |
| 01:59 |
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chris |
or make a copy, modify that and return it |
| 02:00 |
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chris |
actually no that wont work |
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chris |
yeah, deref it |
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chris |
you might want to warn on $layout_font too |
| 02:01 |
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chris |
just to check that is what you think it should be |
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chris_n2 |
*nod* |
| 02:04 |
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chris |
that my should be stopping the side effect |
| 02:05 |
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pastebot |
"chris" at 192.168.15.101 pasted "Use array assignment to a loca" (8 lines) at http://paste.workbuffer.org/44 |
| 02:05 |
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chris |
so it should actually be making a copy each time and modifying that |
| 02:06 |
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chris |
so i might have put you wrong |
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chris_n2 |
very strange |
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chris_n2 |
derefing it and copying it so: my @font_types_copy = @font_types; and the weirdness is the same :-P |
| 02:15 |
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chris_n2 |
recopying each pass even |
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chris_n2 |
it somehow appears that all the vars reference the same memory location |
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chris |
that is really weird |
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* chris_n2 |
consults with the perl gurus |
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chris_n2 |
and bets it is something obvious as it too often is |
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chris |
it is usually the way |
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chris_n2 |
bad algorithm... |
| 02:29 |
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chris |
? |
| 02:29 |
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chris_n2 |
[21:21]<CSJewell>You have an algorithm error in _set_selected. The if statement needs an else { $type->{'selected'} = 0; } |
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chris |
hmmm |
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chris_n2 |
turns out the actual "referent" is not scoped and everything (vars and references) point to the same "referent"... 8-S |
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chris |
ahhh |
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chris |
so i was half on the right track |
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chris_n2 |
adding the 'else' does "fix" the "problem" |
| 02:31 |
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chris_n2 |
but really being able to destroy the referent would be better probably |
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chris |
yeah |
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* chris_n2 |
tries hard to remember his C++ |
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brendan |
what do you mean "referent" ? |
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brendan |
"call-by-reference" |
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chris_n2 |
brendan: the thing the reference refers to |
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brendan |
ok -- kind of tongue tided there |
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chris_n2 |
theoretically an actual memory address |
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brendan |
ok |
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brendan |
thanks -- understanding the term usage a little bit better now |
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chris_n2 |
brendan: I may be wrong... have been before and will be again |
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brendan |
won't hold anything against you :) |
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chris |
http://stephenslighthouse.sirs[…]_about_a_res.html |
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chris |
check out that last comment and stephens comment on it |
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chris |
he is the master of playing the woe is me, im such a martyr card |
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brendan |
http://www.wired.com/thisdayin[…]ack-to-the-future |
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brendan |
from the evergreen channel :) |
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chris_n2 |
he is a bit 'slippery' I'd say |
| 03:15 |
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chris_n2 |
http://paste.workbuffer.org/47[…]submit=Format+it! |
| 03:16 |
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chris_n2 |
so it appears that I really am just passing around the reference |
| 03:16 |
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chris_n2 |
and so am operating on the same array regardless of the name |
| 03:17 |
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* chris_n2 |
spends way too much time chasing rabbits |
| 03:18 |
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chris_n2 |
brendan: lol |
| 03:18 |
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brendan |
chris : the idea that Stephen has a response on every comment on his blog -- just really get's under my skin |
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brendan |
I know the claim of too much spam -- but geeze it really bothers me |
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chris_n2 |
self generated spam? |
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brendan |
Wonders how many responses he hasn't posted |
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Amit |
hi chris, brendan, richard |
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Amit |
good morning #koha |
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richard |
hi Amit |
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* chris_n2 |
thinks there is a wicked heisenbug in perl >8-( |
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chris_n2 |
nothing like being persecuted by your own code |
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chris_n2 |
hi richard, Amit |
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richard |
hiya chris_n2 |
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Amit |
heya chris_n2 |
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brendan |
hello Amit |
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Amit |
hi granthpal |
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granthpal |
hi guys.. first install attempt of koha on CentOS image -- opac/staffclient accessible -- added one book -- HOWEVER Search won't respond -- two errors in the log files :: DBD:mysql:st + HTML::Template::Pro:in TMPL_LOOP ... Can anyone help |
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granthpal |
hi AMit :) |
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crawls off to sleep |
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ftherese |
anyone here this morning? |
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ftherese |
evening/afternoon |
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Ropuch^ |
Morning ;> |
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ftherese |
I need to do surgery on my koha database to find out why it isn't being indexed, even though no errors are being reported - maybe it is the way I am using the bulkimportscript.pl |
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Ropuch^ |
I've never used bulkmarcimport |
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ftherese |
consider yourself blessed |
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Ropuch^ is now known as Ropuch |
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Ropuch |
ftherese: huh, the previous ils' records are so bad I decided to skip migration and create new records |
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Ropuch |
So I'm consider myself busy instead of blessed ;> |
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ftherese |
I'll say... If I decided to do that... I would be at it for at least a year before we could migrate |
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ftherese |
40000+ records |
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Ropuch |
I was < 10k then, so i had that choice ;> |
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hdl |
chris around ? |
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|Lupin| |
hello all |
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Ropuch |
Hi laurence |
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Ropuch |
Uh |
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Ropuch |
Hello |Lupin| [; |
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laurence |
hello Ropuch |
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|Lupin| |
hi Ropuch, laurence |
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|Lupin| |
someone remembers how to solve the dependency problem with libicu36 ? |
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Ropuch |
I've downloaded .deb and instlled it manualyy afar |
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|Lupin| |
Ropuch: I think I did the same but currently I can't find the .deb again |
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Ropuch |
https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/h[…]86/libicu36/3.6-3 |
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|Lupin| |
Ropuch: thanks, but would you also be able to find a link from a Debian site ? |
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|Lupin| |
Ropuch: also, I'd need the amd64 version |
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Ropuch |
http://packages.debian.org/etch/libicu36 |
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Ropuch |
It's from etch, but should work |
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|Lupin| |
Ropuch: yep I visited this page and didn't see the link to download the binary, but perhaps I went through the page too quickly |
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Ropuch |
http://security.debian.org/deb[…]-2etch3_amd64.deb |
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|Lupin| |
Ropuch: ahah ! thanks a lot ! |
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Brewman |
OK....silly question of the day.....any one know where to change the text of such things like "Login" and "Password" ? is there a variable file anywhere? |
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Brewman |
That's on the OPAC |
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hdl |
in template file |
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Brewman |
template file? Which one? |
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Ropuch |
hdl: I think it's in .po |
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Ropuch |
Oh |
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Ropuch |
Brewman: you want to change an english version? |
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hdl |
Ropuch: If you want to change that in English, then you have to edit template. |
| 10:35 |
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Brewman |
Yep, should have mentioned that |
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Ropuch |
;> |
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Brewman |
Is it the opac-main.tmpl? |
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Brewman |
Great....found it..../usr/share/koha/opac/htdocs/opac-tmpl/prog/en/modules/opac-main.tmpl |
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Brewman |
Thanks! |
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jan |
hi all |
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Brewman |
Would anyone be able to look here and tell me what might be wrong? http://83.141.96.100:222/cgi-b[…]ha/opac-search.pl |
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jan |
anyone know the status of AmazonContent and AmazonEnabled ..... both settings are used in source, but in the admin interface you can only set the latter ... :/ |
| 11:12 |
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granthpal2 |
Brewman: your splash page is all skewed up, but searches are quite fine, results for "system" download within 3 seconds in mumbai, india :) |
| 11:14 |
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Brewman |
Yeah, its the screen all messed up that I have a problem with!! Any idea where to look? I am thinking it might be a CSS issue but not sure |
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granthpal2 |
Guys ! This is my first installation 3.0.2 on CentOS. I have added one marc record, but it just won't show up in a search... |
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|Lupin| |
granthpal2: have you indexed he dtabase ? |
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granthpal2 |
<link rel="stylesheet" type="text/css" href="/opac-tmpl/prog/en/css/opac2.css" /> |
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granthpal2 |
<link rel="stylesheet" type="text/css" href="/opac-tmpl/prog/en/css/opac2.css" /> |
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granthpal2 |
brewman: your page source -- line 14 -- |
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granthpal2 |
what I have is opac.css ! |
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Brewman |
I know, I was trying to change things around to see if it is CSS, I will change back to opac.css but I think it'll be the same |
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granthpal2 |
Lupin: I came across a cmd online a few hrs back and ran the zebra index -- it said 2 biblios indexed --- still searching for catch |
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|Lupin| |
granthpal2: the oher thing to check is that the zebra daemon is running... |
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granthpal2 |
Yeah, zebra daemon is on |
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granthpal2 |
log-opac-err shows: opac-search.pl: Use of uninitialized value in addition (+) at /usr/share/koha/opac/cgi-bin/opac/opac-search.pl |
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granthpal2 |
other err: HTML::Template::Pro:in TMPL_LOOP at pos 232: PARAM:LOOP:next_loop(0): callback returned null scope |
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hdl |
jan : you can add the one you need. New System Preference. |
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hdl |
But there should be only one valid. |
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jan |
hi hdl, thanks, i did, i just find it strange that i cannot find some preferences documented, also "OPACShowCheckoutName" |
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hdl |
are you on a 3.2 version or 3.0 ? |
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jan |
latest 3.0.x |
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|Lupin| |
bye all |
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hdl |
jan: OPACShowCheckoutName is 3.2 iirc. |
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jan |
hdl: i was reading the documentation of 3.0 : http://koha.org/documentation/[…]cshowcheckoutname |
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Nate |
Good Morning #koha |
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Amit |
heya Nate |
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Nate |
morning Amit! |
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Brewman |
Anyone know if you can either switch off the Pickup Location drop down when placing a hold or, make it default in a NON alphabetical way? |
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Amit |
heya Brewman |
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Brewman |
Hey |
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hdl |
hi all |
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Amit |
heya hdl, jwagner |
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jwagner |
Hi everyone |
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Nate |
hi jwagner |
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Nate |
hi hdl |
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Amit |
hi paul |
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chris_n |
g'morning #koha |
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ftherese |
morning chris_n |
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chris_n |
ftherese: how's your zebra behaving today? |
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ftherese |
poorly :( |
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ftherese |
well... I guess it works |
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ftherese |
but it doesn't return any results |
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ftherese |
the only way I can find my records is by looking in the inventory |
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chris_n |
have you tried connecting with the yaz-client and doing some search |
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ftherese |
they don't show up in the catalog or in the reservoir |
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ftherese |
even when everything runs without reporting any errors |
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ftherese |
no... I don't know how that works... |
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chris_n |
'morning gmcharlt |
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ftherese |
chris_n: yaz-client? what does that do? |
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gmcharlt |
good morning |
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chris_n |
ftherese: check out this example from kete: http://kete.net.nz/documentati[…]y-with-yaz-client |
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chris_n |
it should work for koha as well |
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chris_n |
yaz-client is a cli zebra client |
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ftherese |
ok |
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chris_n |
doing that will at least tell you if the problem is w/zebra |
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ftherese |
zebra gives no errors |
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ftherese |
if I watch the server output |
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ftherese |
the user connects makes the request and then hangs up without a problem |
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Amit |
hi galen |
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nengard |
is it just me or has the koha list gotten more active lately? maybe it's just that I have so much more to do lately that I can't keep up!!! |
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owen |
I don't think it's just you nengard |
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nengard |
oh good :) |
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owen |
and lots of it is coming from outside the US, which is exciting but makes for more language problems. |
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nengard |
that is true |
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owen |
Brewman, did you get your template problem sorted out? |
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paul_p |
g'morning USA... |
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jwagner |
Bonjour paul_p. No jpaul_p today? |
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Brewman |
Owen@ I got the Text in the template sorted, yes. However this problems remains - > look at the was this page is all messed up! http://83.141.96.100:222/cgi-b[…]ha/opac-search.pl |
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owen |
What kind of changes have you made? HTML? CSS? Both? |
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Brewman |
To that advanced page? None, that problem was there before I made any changes |
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paul_p |
jwagner: jnope, jbut i'ill jadd j jeverywhere :D |
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Brewman |
It is a CSS problem though, if I strip the css from the page its fine. However, there seems to be an <div> of Boolean that I can't find in any style sheet |
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jwagner |
paul_p, jwell, jI jguess jthat jwill jwork jtoo! |
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chris_n |
lol |
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owen |
Brewman: What version of Koha is this? |
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* jdavidb |
needs some jsleep. |
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Brewman |
Version 3.0001005 |
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* owen |
doesn't know what official version number that translates to |
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nengard |
ahhhhhh - too many Js |
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* jdavidb |
finds it jamusing that all the js are jconfusing jnengard. |
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paul_p |
hello jnengard ! |
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Brewman |
I think it's 3.0.1 |
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* paul_p |
jhas a jlittle jproblem... |
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owen |
Brewman: What templates have you modified? |
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Brewman |
just opac-results (changing to yui-t1 to yui-t4). Nothing else |
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Brewman |
in opacfacets |
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owen |
Brewman: Do you have the opacbookbag and virtualshelves preferences turned off? |
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Brewman |
one sec and I'll check |
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Brewman |
yes, to both |
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owen |
It looks like you must. I wonder if the problem goes away if they're on? |
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Brewman |
We'll, I try it. Gimme a minute. |
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* owen |
is looking at what's missing from your advanced search screen and wondering if there is a connection |
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Brewman |
Both turned on now and no change. |
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owen |
I'm not sure what to tell you Brewman. I don't have an installation of that version to check against, but I can't imagine an unmodified installation would have a completely broken advanced search page |
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owen |
I would try to track down any possible changes you might have made. Maybe check the files from the original tarball and diff them against the templates you have installed? |
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Brewman |
Yeah, I know, it's a strange one. It is possible someone else changed it. I thought someone here might spot it straight away, but I will go back to installer files and check. Thanks for your help. |
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jwagner |
paul_p and others, we have an installation problem. Doing a git install, we applied paul_p's patch for Bug 3608 to make the messaging options work in patron categories and patron records. When I try to set some options in the patron categories, it will record and display things like Hold Filled. But it won't retain settings for Advance Notice (e.g., 5 days, digest). jdavidb tells me he sees them in the table, but they don't show in the patron categor |
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munin |
Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3608 blocker, PATCH-Sent, ---, paul.poulain biblibre.com, ASSIGNED, Install from scratch, file uploading errors [BibLibre coderun] |
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paul_p |
jwagner: I don't understand the relation btw 3608 and your problem ? |
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jwagner |
And when I create a new patron based on one of the categories, it sees and applies the hold setting, but does not pick up the advance notice setting. I can edit the record to it, and jdavidb says he sees it in the table, but it again doesn't display. |
| 14:30 |
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jdavidb |
Bug 3608 prevented loading of sample_notices (which prevented loading of sample_notice_message_transport). May not be tightly linked, but it's in there. |
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jwagner |
He had to load your patch before I could get any message settings at all in the patron categories. |
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jwagner |
I checked a couple of other systems. On my sandbox, updated to latest Koha head, it does the same thing. On another machine with the same version number (.061) but a couple of weeks behind head, messaging settings display and work properly. |
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hdl |
gmcharlt: around ? |
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gmcharlt |
hi hdl |
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hdl |
hi how are you ? |
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gmcharlt |
not too bad |
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hdl |
As Chris told, I shall release a new 3.0.5 quite soon. |
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gmcharlt |
understood |
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jdavidb |
hdl++ |
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hdl |
any hint on our master branch update ? |
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hdl |
(merge in official branch) ? |
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gmcharlt |
hdl: ready to go tonight |
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redtano |
test chat |
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paul_p |
redtano: works ;-) |
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owen |
I'm surprised how many people come in here just to find out if it works. Are they waiting for an emergency to ask a real question? |
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wizzyrea |
idk, I'm surprised that librarians aren't more interested in real time group chat |
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wizzyrea |
i mean, they love conferences |
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owen |
We tried to set up an IRC channel for our 7 branches, and it never took off. |
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owen |
But most people don't sit down at a computer |
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wizzyrea |
jwagner: i'm looking at my current head, and the messaging settings come through fine |
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wizzyrea |
sorry, I know that's like discussion from an hour ago |
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* owen |
has to go pick up a sniffly baby from daycare :( |
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owen |
Wish me luck! |
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chris_n |
what we need is a "HUD' type hat that has wireless connectivity and scrolls the irc buffer before our eyes as we walk about |
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wizzyrea |
@later tell owen good luck with the baby! |
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munin |
wizzyrea: The operation succeeded. |
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wizzyrea |
hehe |
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wizzyrea |
chris_n did you see/hear about the device that non-sighted people can put on their tongue, attached to a camera, that can allow them to "see" |
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wizzyrea |
lemme see if I can find it |
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chris_n |
sounds neat |
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wizzyrea |
http://www.c00lstuff.com/308/T[…]th_tongue_vision/ |
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chris_n |
I did read about experiments in sensor implants in the optic area of the brain |
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wizzyrea |
I wonder if you could stretch the functionality of that to create a 6th sense: the internet sense :) |
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chris_n |
heh |
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chris_n |
http://www.associatedcontent.c[…]lants.html?cat=12 |
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nengard |
quick question - for koha db is an issue a check out only? or a check out and/or a renewal |
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jdavidb |
An issue can be renewed. Renewal and checkout are *actions*, and an issue is a record of either. Renewing updates the issue record. |
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jdavidb |
gmcharlt: ping? |
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gmcharlt |
jdavidb: pong |
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jdavidb |
I resubmitted a patch for bug 3775, but it's labeled for 3774. Fat-finger typing day, I guess. Can you fix, or do I need to re-re-submit? |
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munin |
Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3775 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, dbavousettptfs.com, ASSIGNED, Accounts::chargelostitem uses title, but title not available to it |
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jwagner |
wizzyrea, sorry, I've been in a meeting & just saw your response to my problem. When did you last update head, can you tell? So far we have a system last updated to head in about July which works, and one updated this week, which doesn't. But they both have version # .061, so it's hard to tell when the problem crept in. |
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wizzyrea |
mine is updated to about 3 days ago |
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wizzyrea |
I think... |
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wizzyrea |
3.01.00.061 |
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wizzyrea |
let me make sure I understand correctly: You set up the messaging defaults on the patron categories page, and the defaults for advance notice don't show up? |
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gmcharlt |
jdavidb: that's fine - I'll fix the bug # when I push |
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jdavidb |
thankee, gmcharlt! |
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jwagner |
wizzyrea, correct. jdavidb says they seem to be recording in the table for the patron categories, but they aren't on the display/edit screen after I set them. And when I create a patron based on the category, the advance notice setting isn't seen/applied -- the actual patron record's settings don't have it. |
| 16:27 |
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jwagner |
I'm about to open a bug report. |
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jwagner |
It's a critical/blocker for us, because I can't import patrons for this new site until the messaging settings are fixed. |
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wizzyrea |
that's weird, it shows both places in mine |
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nengard |
MySQL problem - I'm getting an array error with this query |
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nengard |
oops - nevermind - a typo |
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wizzyrea |
OH jane |
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wizzyrea |
jwagner! |
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wizzyrea |
I think I know what your problem is |
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wizzyrea |
you can't have days in advance set to 0 |
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wizzyrea |
let me double check that you just tickled something in my mind |
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wizzyrea |
a problem we had waaaaay back when we were testing that enhancement |
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nengard |
okay - mysql question for real - I have a report that does this: Patrons who are expired who do not have notes and do not have outstanding fines from before 2006 (2005 on back) -- I have written it but I'm getting no results - I was querying the amountoutstanding field - is there another I should query? |
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* wizzyrea |
just verified that as true (at least on her system) |
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* wizzyrea |
is on pins and needles |
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jwagner |
wizzyrea, I didn't have days in advance set as zero -- I was setting to 5 days. |
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wizzyrea |
doh! |
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wizzyrea |
hey melanie |
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wizzyrea |
well it works on mine :( |
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jwagner |
There has to be something real recent that broke this, but we haven't found it so far. |
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nengard |
I'm working with melanie on the problem i mentioned above |
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wizzyrea |
I just tried to update my install, it said I had the most current version |
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wizzyrea |
is there maybe some jquery mucking it up? |
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wizzyrea |
mucking the display? |
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jwagner |
This is a brand new install -- no jquery, no local code, no data copied from anywhere. |
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wizzyrea |
bah! |
| 16:44 |
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jwagner |
Bugzilla opened -- Bug 3776 |
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munin |
Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3776 blocker, P1, ---, dbavousettptfs.com, NEW, messaging options don't display/retain advance notice settings |
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wizzyrea |
maybe this one jane? |
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wizzyrea |
http://git.koha.org/cgi-bin/gi[…]6d1e9465eaea473e7 |
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wizzyrea |
bah, never mind |
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jwagner |
No, that has to do with the patron screen messages, not the notices. |
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wizzyrea_mobile |
Yay, our proper Internet is down. Stupid AT&T |
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5 red rlos lights, thumbs up |
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wizzyrea |
hurray! |
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jdavidb |
wizzyrea: do we need to velcro you in place? |
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wizzyrea |
yea pretty much |
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* jdavidb |
feels that it his not his day for patches. |
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* jdavidb |
breaks out some heavy-duty velcro, so wizzyrea won't go away any more. |
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chris |
hmm that can't be right |
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* jdavidb |
fears |
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chris |
We've been told there is one notice sent for each |
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chris |
item on the account... so if a patron had 5 overdue books, he/she would |
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chris |
receive 5 seperate emails. Has anyone found a solution for this problem? |
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chris |
that certainly hasn't been my experience ... anyone else ? |
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jwagner |
chris, the nightly cron for overdues lumps them all together, but if they're using something like the Item Due notice, it sends a separate one. Maybe that's what the poster was talking about? |
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chris |
ahh ill ask, thanks jwagner |
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jdavidb |
Hold pickup notices normally would not combine, either. |
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jwagner |
If I remember right, advance notices don't either, although that's handled separately from things like Items Due. |
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chris |
started the thread off, so if anyone else wants to chip in that would be cool :) |
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chris |
@wunder wellingon, nz |
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munin |
chris: Error: No such location could be found. |
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chris |
@wunder wellington, nz |
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munin |
chris: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 12.0�C (7:00 AM NZDT on November 07, 2009). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 77%. Dew Point: 8.0�C. Pressure: 30.21 in 1023 hPa (Steady). |
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chris |
i can't see any clouds ... that must be out by the airport |
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jdavidb |
@wunder 20852 |
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munin |
jdavidb: The current temperature in Flower Valley, Rockville, Maryland is 10.5�C (1:33 PM EST on November 06, 2009). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 43%. Dew Point: -2.0�C. Pressure: 30.04 in 1017.2 hPa (Rising). |
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chris_n |
@wunder 28334 |
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munin |
chris_n: The current temperature in Erwin, North Carolina is 15.0�C (1:19 PM EST on November 06, 2009). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 19%. Dew Point: -9.0�C. Pressure: 30.30 in 1026 hPa (Rising). Freeze warning in effect from 4 am to 9 am EST Saturday... |
| 18:51 |
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* jdavidb |
chuckles, as he closes bug 3776 |
| 18:51 |
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munin |
Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3776 blocker, P1, ---, dbavousettptfs.com, RESOLVED INVALID, messaging options don't display/retain advance notice settings |
| 18:52 |
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chris |
ahh, pebkac? |
| 18:53 |
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jwagner |
Hey! I resemble that remark!!! |
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* jdavidb |
promised he wouldn't say that where the user could hear it, so he doesn't say it, and asks that jwagner take note that he did not. |
| 18:53 |
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jwagner |
In defense, I've never set up a system where they only wanted digests as an option. It didn't occur to me that you had to check both boxes :-( |
| 18:54 |
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chris |
ahh, that is kinda confusing |
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jdavidb |
With SMS turned off, only the one transport is showing, which probably doesn't help, either. might convince someone to redraw that table a bit more clearly, or error-check it. |
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* jdavidb |
likes buts that close quick like that, though. |
| 18:56 |
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jdavidb |
*bugs, even. |
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jwagner |
It still puzzles me that the patron category setup saved it to the table, even without email checked. It just didn't display or apply it. |
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chris |
yeah, silent fails are annoying |
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chris_n |
chris: last evening's array foo fun turns out to be the result of an arrayref of hashrefs |
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chris |
ahhh |
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chris_n |
so not only did the array have to be de-ref'ed, but the hashes also |
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chris |
that makes sense |
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chris_n |
I was missing the hashes |
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chris |
that is why the else worked |
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chris_n |
actually the else only worked in one case.. :-P |
| 19:16 |
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chris_n |
which is what finally forced me to find the *real* problem |
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chris |
right |
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chris_n |
perl -d was the magic that showed it up |
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chris_n |
if Dumper showed the memory addresses pointed to by the refs, it would have been quicker |
| 19:18 |
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chris_n |
so if knowledge is power, I got a little more powerful in the realm of Perl for my trouble ;-) |
| 19:20 |
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jwagner |
Personally I'd prefer less power and less trouble :-( |
| 19:20 |
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jwagner |
But it's been a bad week overall.... |
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* chris_n |
hands jwagner some chocolates for consolation |
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jwagner |
chris_n, I've already been on a steady chocolate diet since Monday (lots of leftover Halloween candy), so that may be part of the problem. But I appreciate the thought :-) |
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chris_n |
wOOt!!! after many hours it works :-) |
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* chris_n |
considers taking off coding this weekend to celebrate |
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chris |
:) |
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* jdavidb |
notices at the #koha IRC stats page (http://stats.workbuffer.org/ircstats/) that jwagner is chattier than munin, but that he himself is not. |
| 19:45 |
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jwagner |
@karma jdavidb |
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munin |
jwagner: Karma for "jdavidb" has been increased 5 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 5. |
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jwagner |
@karma jwagner |
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munin |
jwagner: Karma for "jwagner" has been increased 8 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 8. |
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jwagner |
(refraining from further comment....) |
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chris |
heh |
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chris |
@karma |
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munin |
chris: Highest karma: "chris" (69), "owen" (60), and "gmcharlt" (59). Lowest karma: "<!" (-20), "failed" (-20), and "src="<!" (-10). You (chris) are ranked 1 out of 536. |
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jdavidb |
@karma |
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munin |
jdavidb: Highest karma: "chris" (69), "owen" (60), and "gmcharlt" (59). Lowest karma: "<!" (-20), "failed" (-20), and "src="<!" (-10). You (jdavidb) are ranked 32 out of 536. |
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jdavidb |
32..not bad. |
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chris_n |
@karma |
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munin |
chris_n: Highest karma: "chris" (69), "owen" (60), and "gmcharlt" (59). Lowest karma: "<!" (-20), "failed" (-20), and "src="<!" (-10). You (chris_n) are ranked 13 out of 536. |
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rhcl |
@seen wizzyrea |
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munin |
rhcl: wizzyrea was last seen in #koha 1 hour, 33 minutes, and 59 seconds ago: <wizzyrea> yea pretty much |
| 19:53 |
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wizzyrea |
yo rhcl |
| 19:53 |
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wizzyrea |
sup |
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rhcl |
Hey...our people are playing with koha, and they've talked about how with workflows they can be logged in on one instance as techserv and on a separate instance of workflows as circ, for example... |
| 19:54 |
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rhcl |
I'm thinking you can't do that in a web browser, short of starting another browser in another profile or using a different browser altoghether. Si or no? |
| 19:55 |
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wizzyrea |
um... |
| 19:55 |
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wizzyrea |
well |
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chris |
thats right |
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wizzyrea |
why would you need to do that? |
| 19:55 |
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wizzyrea |
I"m just thinking about how koha is structured |
| 19:55 |
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wizzyrea |
this may be a nonissue |
| 19:55 |
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rhcl |
Well, I donno, but I do know that June does it all the time in Workflows. |
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wizzyrea |
what I would do |
| 19:55 |
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wizzyrea |
this is one person, right? |
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rhcl |
yes |
| 19:56 |
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jwagner |
rchl, I've needed to do that a few times in testing feature development on granular permissions. In that case, I use IE to log in as one user, and Firefox to log in as the other. |
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wizzyrea |
she would have a techsvcs acct correct? |
| 19:56 |
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wizzyrea |
so |
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jwagner |
Otherwise, I'm not sure it would come up in real-life use. |
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rhcl |
june has the keys to the kingdom |
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wizzyrea |
I would suggest she keep one window open with circ front and center |
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wizzyrea |
and another window open with cataloging front and center |
| 19:56 |
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wizzyrea |
her login as techsvcs would allow both |
| 19:56 |
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wizzyrea |
no reason to have two logins |
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chris |
(if you set its permissions to that) |
| 19:56 |
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wizzyrea |
just use two windowss |
| 19:56 |
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wizzyrea |
right |
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wizzyrea |
give her perms for both tasks, and use two windows with the same login |
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rhcl |
OK, tnx |
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wizzyrea |
unless there's something about the situation that I'm not understanding |
| 19:57 |
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wizzyrea |
but I think that the firewall between the two functions in sirsi is a nonissue for koha |
| 19:58 |
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rhcl |
I just know that she does some things as "admin" in one WF, then other things <near>simultaneously in another WF as "techserv" |
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wizzyrea |
ah |
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chris |
i think in koha you make her a real user |
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wizzyrea |
then yea, just use two windows |
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chris |
and give that user the appropriate permissions |
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wizzyrea |
<- hasn't used sirsi in a long time |
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chris |
instead of having 'roles' |
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wizzyrea |
right, especially if she's a low flight risk employee |
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jwagner |
The main thing I can think of in Unicorn would be report ownership -- if she normally logs in as TS, but needs to see other users' reports, she'd have to log in as Admin. |
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wizzyrea |
NEKLS actually does role based users, circ, tech, and director |
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chris_n |
owen++ # for a very cool units changing jquery script |
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chris |
depends on how fine you want your audit trail |
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wizzyrea |
yea |
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chris |
if you want to know exactly who it was that issued the book that you had told them not to issue 8 times already |
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wizzyrea |
I brought that up to our team, they said "eh, who cares" |
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chris |
that having individual users is handy |
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wizzyrea |
yepper |
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rhcl |
yes, I think that's what we do. But I remember seeing DiannaAtchison logging in and out as different roles when she needed to show us different things. |
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chris |
lots of nz libraries have volunteer staff |
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wizzyrea |
well that's because the circ role doesn't have reports rights |
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chris |
its good to be able to have individual logins for them |
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wizzyrea |
or cataloging |
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wizzyrea |
but you could set june as a user with both roles |
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wizzyrea |
and blammo |
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wizzyrea |
all done |
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wizzyrea |
and that stuff is all pretty granular |
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wizzyrea |
and getting more so |
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chris |
yep |
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chris |
its starting to get really nice |
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wizzyrea |
rhcl that's just the way NEKLS does it, you can do it <sings> your way </sings> |
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* wizzyrea |
whips out the top hat and cane |
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chris |
id pay money to see that |
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wizzyrea |
O.o |
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* wizzyrea |
ponders a new career |
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chris |
heh |
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rhcl |
Burger King? |
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wizzyrea |
*sob* |
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wizzyrea |
harsh, rhcl, harsh |
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wizzyrea |
;) |
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chris |
there is a burlesque house in wellington *grin* |
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jdavidb |
I'm with chris. Seeing wizzyrea doing a song and dance would be a treat. ;-) |
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chris_n |
any jquery gurus out there? |
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ftherese |
hello... trying to install the git version of koha |
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chris_n |
once again luck and fortune win out over skill and knowledge |
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ftherese |
I get to the part about the sax_parser |
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ftherese |
it says that if I'm using PurePerl or Expat, you'll need to edit your |
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ftherese |
ini file, typically located at |
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ftherese |
/etc/perl/XML/SAX/ParserDetails.ini |
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ftherese |
problem is, I don't know what to do to this file |
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pastebot |
"chris_n" at 192.168.15.101 pasted "/etc/perl/XML/SAX/ParserDetails.ini" (7 lines) at http://paste.workbuffer.org/49 |
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chris_n |
ftherese: mine looks like that ^^ |
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ftherese |
ok |
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ftherese |
that seems to have fixed whether it uses sax or not |
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ftherese |
but now the hash between what koha is expecting is different from the hash I have |
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ftherese |
my SAX::Parser=HASH(0x81fe220) |
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ftherese |
sorry KOHA WANTS = SAX:: Parser=HASH(0x81fe220) |
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ftherese |
My hash SAX:: Parser=HASH(0x8881a58) |
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ftherese |
says it looks good |
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ftherese |
but maybe it is a different version or something |
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ftherese |
is there an easy fix for DBD::SQLite2 failing on ak-dbd.t |
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pianohackr|work |
ftherese: not one that I know of offhand, but unless you'll be using offline circ, you shouldn't have to worry about that |
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ftherese |
offline in what sense? |
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ftherese |
because we just might need that |
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wizzyrea |
there's a client for creating circulation files for when you cannot connect to your koha installation |
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pianohackr|work |
right |
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wizzyrea |
http://kylehall.info/index.php[…]line-circulation/ |
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pianohackr|work |
you can checkout and checkin books and items, and then upload the changes once your installation is back online |
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pianohackr|work |
it needs a nightly-updated database of patrons and items, tho |
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pianohackr|work |
which is where DBD::SQLite2 comes in |
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wizzyrea |
fwiw, it's almost as easy to just keep track of your items in a spreadsheet and do them manually when the system comes up |
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ftherese |
so it is really that hard to fix? |
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ftherese |
well.. if no one else is using it, I can't imagine it is too important |
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wizzyrea |
I think it's safe to say that you can get by without it |
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pianohackr|work |
ftherese: we've never used offline circ here (was much more needed with our old evil hosted sirsi install) |
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wizzyrea |
of course, if you're like me you're like, "I can't go on! There's an error!!" :) |
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wizzyrea |
woe! |
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ftherese |
wizzyrea: yeah... I have that tendancy |
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ftherese |
what about dom vs grs1... I had some problems with zebra in my last install - had selected dom, which I would prefer if possible |
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ftherese |
what kind of legacy are we talking about here? |
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wizzyrea |
when we've needed it, we've used spreadsheets to track patrons/items, just use the scanner to scan barcodes into the spreadsheet, then have someone go back when the system is up and enter the data |
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ftherese |
grs1 is for legacy support, I don't think I need that, but just want to make sure that it is not perhaps part of my problem |
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ftherese |
I get this IMPORTANT notice with bulkmarcimport.pl |
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ftherese |
don't use this script before you've entered and checked your MARC |
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ftherese |
parameters tables twice (or more!). |
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ftherese |
any suggestions as to how I should do this? |
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ftherese |
grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr |
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ftherese |
the installer doesn't show up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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ftherese |
this is very anoying!!!!!! |
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ftherese |
I logged in, but /cgi-bin/koha/installer/install.pl is a blanc page!!!! |
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pianohackr|work |
oh my |
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pianohackr|work |
have you checked your error log? |
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ftherese |
oh |
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ftherese |
sorry... |
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ftherese |
I had to reload the page |
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ftherese |
I think it had my previous installation in cache |
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wizzyrea |
^.^ |
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ftherese |
but now I can't install in french... |
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wizzyrea |
:( |
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ftherese |
how do I install in french? I got from the git repo |
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ftherese |
only en is available |
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pianohackr|work |
ftherese: (in your koha directory, with a command prompt) |
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pianohackr|work |
cd misc/translator/ |
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pianohackr|work |
./install-code.pl fr-FR |
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wizzyrea |
pianohackr|work it's a good thing you're here |
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wizzyrea |
hey ph, where is that documented? |
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pianohackr|work |
sure, you say that now |
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wizzyrea |
b/c it should be |
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pianohackr|work |
hmm. I learned it from chris, I don't think it's documented |
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wizzyrea |
I always think it's good when you're around |
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wizzyrea |
well that's bad. |
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wizzyrea |
should we put it on the wiki somewhere? |
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pianohackr|work |
wizzyrea: I think it's mainly only needed if you install from git, but yeah, it should be on the wiki |
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wizzyrea |
"so you decided to install from git, you might need to do this" |
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pianohackr|work |
wizzyrea: (plastic cheesecake attack!) |
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wizzyrea |
AIEE!! |
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* wizzyrea |
ducks |
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* wizzyrea |
goes for the plastic cocktails |
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pianohackr|work |
wizzyrea: there's a guide for getting started with git, that would be a good place for it |
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pianohackr|work |
hehe |
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pianohackr|work |
tho that was mainly joetho's fault |
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wizzyrea |
yes, yes it was |
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ftherese |
lets see if that works |
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wizzyrea |
I did somehow end up with said plastic cheesecake |
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pianohackr|work |
that poor, traumatized waitress |
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pianohackr|work |
yes, you did! you sat on the _wrong_ end of the table |
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ftherese |
it is copying a zillion things |
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pianohackr|work |
yup, that's normal |
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wizzyrea |
oh I know between nahuel wanting a bluedy steak |
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wizzyrea |
and joetho and the plastic cheesecake |
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wizzyrea |
and owen on impending baby watch |
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wizzyrea |
chris too for that matter. |
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pianohackr|work |
yeah, seriously |
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ftherese |
ok... the web-installer still only shows en... |
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ftherese |
do I need to rebuild something pianohackr|work |
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pianohackr|work |
ftherese: what kind of install did you do? dev, simple or single? |
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pianohackr|work |
standard, single or dev? rather |
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ftherese |
standard |
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ftherese |
oh |
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ftherese |
do I need to remake it? |
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ftherese |
after the language thing? |
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pianohackr|work |
Yes |
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ftherese |
ok |
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wizzyrea |
ph, I have an additional dumb question for you |
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ftherese |
hey! |
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pianohackr|work |
wizzyrea: no such thing as a dumb question :) |
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ftherese |
lol |
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pianohackr|work |
that is my mantra |
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pianohackr|work |
only thing that's kept me and my coworkers alive and sane |
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wizzyrea |
if I wanted to add a template variable for 952$z (I always have dumb questions) in catalogue/detail.pl, I've never defined those and I don't think it's there already |
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wizzyrea |
how? |
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wizzyrea |
we wanna show the note on the bib detail page |
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wizzyrea |
(perhaps supplanting the copy number column) |
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wizzyrea |
(mostly I just want to see if it can be done) |
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wizzyrea |
at 4:57 on a friday, no less |
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pianohackr|work |
wizzyrea: it depends how the item information is being fetched |
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ftherese |
it is Skiping all the files in make |
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pianohackr|work |
basically, you just find what call the script uses, then make sure that that call retrieves that specific field from the database |
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ftherese |
even the ones wit the fr-FR directory |
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pianohackr|work |
hrm |
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pianohackr|work |
you can do it manually |
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ftherese |
that is fine |
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ftherese |
where do I put the stuff |
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pianohackr|work |
cp -r koha-tmpl/intranet-tmpl/prog/fr-FR /usr/share/koha/.../prog/ |
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pianohackr|work |
basically, there should be a prog dir where the english templates were installed |
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pianohackr|work |
just copy the fr-FR directories for intranet and OPAC to the right places |
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ftherese |
ok |
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wizzyrea |
you wanna put them right next to the en folder |
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pianohackr|work |
yup |
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pianohackr|work |
ftherese: are you going to be updating this install using git? |
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pianohackr|work |
if so, it would be easier to do a dev install |
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wizzyrea |
bah, I may revisit this next week... thanks for expending some brain cycles on it for me ph |
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ftherese |
pianohackr|work: I just want to see if it will work |
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pianohackr|work |
wizzyrea: np |
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pianohackr|work |
ftherese: right :) |
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ftherese |
I still haven't been able to successfully import my data |
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pianohackr|work |
ahh, I've wanted to send an email; one quick thing you might try is adding the -r flag to rebuild_zebra |
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ftherese |
ok |
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ftherese |
hmmm installer still comes up with only en as option, but everything is in french... |
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ftherese |
crap... and I hit next and it went back to english |
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pianohackr|work |
ftherese: ahh, it sounds like you might have copied the french data into the english folder |
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ftherese |
I didn't do any copying |
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ftherese |
I let the installation progie take care of it |
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ftherese |
when I redid make install I saw it copy those things |
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pianohackr|work |
what does ls /usr/share/koha/intranet/htdocs/intranet-tmpl/prog show? |
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pianohackr|work |
(I think that's the right directory for a standard install) |
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ftherese |
en fr-FR img |
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ftherese |
I restarted the webserver |
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ftherese |
still have only en as an option |
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ftherese |
pianohackr|work: I don't know perl works, but I am looking at the install.pl |
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pianohackr|work |
I'm taking a look at getTranslatedLanguages, which this depends on |
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ftherese |
use C4::Languages qw(getAllLanguages getTranslatedLanguages); |
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pianohackr|work |
I admit that I've only done English installs before and am doing this a bit seat-of-the-pants |
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pianohackr|work |
You might want to ask the list for help; one of the bibLibre or other folk that deal with translations might be more helpful |
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ftherese |
where is getTranslatedLanguages |
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pianohackr|work |
C4/Languages.pm |
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ftherese |
and where is that? |
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pianohackr|work |
koha source directory |
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pianohackr|work |
ftherese: chris, hdl, ricardo and paul_p are all more involved with translation work than I |
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ftherese |
hmmm |
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ftherese |
I am going to try make clean |
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ftherese |
and then remake |
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pianohackr|work |
*shrug* it's worth a shot |
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ftherese |
pianohackr|work: there are a couple other scripts in misc translator... do you think I need to run any of them? |
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pianohackr|work |
install-code should take care of the whole process (to my knowledge) |
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ftherese |
ok |
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ftherese |
but if it doesn't ;) |
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ftherese |
still can't choose French after uninstalling and reinstalling |
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ftherese |
I think I have to give up for this evening |
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pianohackr|work |
good night to you too then :) |
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