IRC log for #koha, 2009-10-01

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01:21 pianohacker hi, #koha
01:21 brendan heya pianohacker
01:21 pianohacker hi brendan
01:21 pianohacker how are you?
01:22 brendan ah hanging in there
01:22 brendan how's everything with you -- hand getting better ?
01:23 pianohacker i'm all right. hand's still broken, but is healing slowly
01:24 pianohacker how's work treating you?
01:29 brendan well I'm still in the office -- so I guess that's good or bad
01:29 pianohacker heh
01:29 brendan I'd say fun :)
01:29 pianohacker what are you working on?
01:30 brendan some data
01:30 brendan just had a load of items import to the wrong branch :)
01:30 brendan so I had to correct that...
01:31 brendan how about you?
01:31 pianohacker school :) calculus study
01:31 brendan nice -- always loved Math
01:31 pianohacker and now I've been called away to do some housework
01:32 pianohacker (it's definitely preferable to history)
01:32 pianohacker brb
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02:30 brendan cya in a bit #koha
02:30 pianohacker cya
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03:11 Amit hi chris, richard
03:11 Amit good morning #koha
03:20 pianohacker hi amit
03:21 Amit hi pianohacker
03:21 Amit @wounder Bangalore, India
03:21 munin` Amit: downloading the Perl source
03:22 pianohacker @wunder bangalore, india
03:22 munin` pianohacker: The current temperature in Bangalore, India is 20.0�C (5:30 AM IST on October 01, 2009). Conditions: Light Drizzle. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: 19.0�C.
03:22 pianohacker wow, you're up early
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03:33 Amit @wunder New Delhi
03:33 munin` Amit: The current temperature in New Delhi, India is 29.0�C (8:00 AM IST on October 01, 2009). Conditions: Mist. Humidity: 79%. Dew Point: 25.0�C. Pressure: 29.80 in 1009 hPa (Rising).
03:34 Amit @wunder Dehradun, India
03:34 munin` Amit: The current temperature in Dehradun, India is 26.0�C (8:30 AM IST on October 01, 2009). Conditions: Mist. Humidity: 74%. Dew Point: 22.0�C. Pressure: 29.80 in 1009 hPa.
03:36 pianohacker good night, #koha
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05:15 brendan heya Amit
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05:40 kf morning
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07:02 hdl_laptop hi
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07:28 kf hi hdl, nicomo and RMD
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07:53 nahuel hi all
07:53 nahuel chris, really bad news this morning
07:53 nahuel another earthquake :(
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08:47 |Lupin| good morning everybody
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09:04 hala hi
09:04 hala Q :pleasre
09:04 hala please
09:05 hala how we import koha
09:05 hala upload record to koha
09:05 hala ??
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09:07 hdl_laptop hala: tools/stage marc import
09:07 hdl_laptop or bulkmarcimport on command line
09:17 |Lupin| hdl_laptop: I'm wondering how to determine the number of available items for a biblionumer from within a Perl script... couldn't find a function that returns that. Is there one ?
09:17 hdl_laptop what to you mean number of "available" items
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09:18 hdl_laptop SELECT count(*) from items where biblio=?
09:18 hdl_laptop SELECT count(*) from items where biblionumber=?
09:18 hdl_laptop or
09:19 |Lupin| hdl_laptop: is this  equivalent to counting the number of occurences of the 995 unimarc field ?
09:19 hdl_laptop SELECT count(*) from items where biblionumber=? and items.onloan IS NOT NULL and items.notforloan=0 and items.wthdrawn=0 and items.itemlost=0 ?
09:19 hdl_laptop |Lupin|: Yes
09:20 hdl_laptop (in theory)
09:20 |Lupin| hdl_laptop: for us the notion of "available" item is a bit irrelevant, because every iem is alwys available...
09:21 |Lupin| hdl_laptop: ok, thanks
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09:29 kf guten Tag |Lupin|
09:37 hala after tools/stage marc import ?
09:38 |Lupin| hallo kf
09:39 kf hala: after uploading there should be a link to manage staged imports, there you can add your file to the catalog and finish import
09:40 hala where can i find it -  link to manage staged imports -
09:41 hala am sry if am bothering you ;)
09:42 hala did you mean V
09:42 hala sry
09:42 hala Manage staged MARC records.
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09:56 kf hala: yes
09:56 kf hala:[…]ecords-for-import
09:57 kf hala:[…]aged-marc-records
10:05 hala i have in my library 1171 books
10:06 hala i must to upload 1 by 1 ??
10:06 |Lupin| pls everybody
10:06 |Lupin| is it possible from within Koha to search a biblio whose x$y field contains z ?
10:06 hala and from whiv cataloge can i get a record
10:06 hala ?
10:07 hala loc or britsh library or what ?
10:08 hala and how can i delet a file after  import it ?
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10:09 ricardo Hi everyone. Is anyone "awake"? :)
10:10 |Lupin| ricardo: not yet, but working hard to become so... :-)
10:10 |Lupin| (buddhist joke)
10:10 ricardo |Lupin|: LOL!
10:11 ricardo |Lupin|: Hi Sébastien :)  I'm having a little problem with a Koha git installation (HEAD of the 3.0.x branch)...
10:11 ricardo Advanced searches by "keyword" not working. Author and Title searches work fine.
10:11 ricardo UNIMARC and NoZebra installation
10:12 |Lupin| ricardo: hmm...
10:12 kf hala: you can do copy cataloging via z39.50 and you can load a files with many MARC records via stages marc import or bulk import
10:12 |Lupin| ricardo: it may not help, but I switched to Zebra mode because it seems this gets much more testing and dev effort...
10:13 kf hala: but you need your records to be valid MARC21 / UNIMARC (dpeending on your installation) and items information in 952
10:13 ricardo |Lupin|: agreed and understood
10:13 |Lupin| ricardo: apart from that, I assme you built your index etc. ?
10:14 ricardo |Lupin|: Yup. I ran   Thanks :)
10:14 hala from where can i get a user ID and password and how ?
10:14 ricardo |Lupin|: The problem remains, though...
10:14 ricardo |Lupin|: I think I'll send a message to [Koha-Devel] and see if someone "pops" up there
10:16 |Lupin| ricardo: perhaps something to do with the rebuilding of frameworkcodes or whatever ? there is a script called batchRebuild something one is advised to run when one modifies cataloguing frameworks...
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10:17 hdl_laptop ricardo: as far as BibLibre is concerned, we donot setup any nozebra zny longer
10:18 hdl_laptop have you tried adding kw index ?
10:18 ricardo hdl_laptop: Ouch... Thanks for the information (about not setting any NoZebra any longer).
10:18 kf hala: to add more patrons and staff users you have to define patron categories in adminstration and add patrons after that. for staff category you can set permissions
10:19 ricardo hdl_laptop: I thought that a keyword search searched in every field... Where should I add a "kw" index? Is it in the "NoZebraIndexes" system preference?
10:19 hdl_laptop let me look 10 sec
10:19 ricardo hdl_laptop: Thanks  :)
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10:22 hala i cant find the method to download a Loc catalog ?
10:22 hdl_laptop lines 1860 - 1866
10:23 hdl_laptop indexes are searched as exact terms.
10:23 hdl_laptop ^ti$
10:23 ricardo hdl_laptop: Of C4/, right?
10:23 hdl_laptop you might want to change that to ^ti
10:23 hdl_laptop yes
10:24 hdl_laptop hala: search Z3950 on the manual
10:24 ricardo hdl_laptop: Change "^ti$" to "^ti"? Why? All other indexes are ending up in "$"
10:25 ricardo (which I assume is the "end of line" for a regular expression)
10:28 hala did you mean from koha manual
10:31 |Lupin| hala: yes
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10:34 hala then ??
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10:40 kf hala: sorry hala, meeting now. take a look at the manual, look for z39.50 clients and download.
10:41 hala ok . thxx alot , dnt wry
10:41 hala catch u later
10:42 hala catch you later
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10:50 hala can u help me plz
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10:50 hala i need to download the  z39.50 client
10:51 hala may you help me in how to download it
11:00 kf hala: I meant search in the manual for z39.50 :) you dont have to download additonal software or programs. depending on your choices during install it should just work. start in cataloging for z39.50-download of titles. - lunch time now :)
11:06 |Lupin| lunch time here, too
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11:46 |Lupin| hi Jane, jdavidb
11:46 jdavidb Hi, |Lupin|! :)
11:46 |Lupin| jdavidb: how are you doing ?
11:46 jdavidb I'll let you know later, after I'm awake.  I was up way too late last night!
11:48 jwagner Morning |Lupin|
11:51 Amit hi lupin, hdl, jwagner
11:52 |Lupin| hey Amit
11:52 |Lupin| jdavidb: I see. YOur day may be a bit difficult... good luck !
11:54 jdavidb thanks, Lupin.  Yeah, this one's gonna be rough.
11:55 |Lupin| jdavidb: btw, are you from the United Stats ? I hought you and Jane are from UK... ?
11:56 jdavidb Nope, we're both in Bethesda, MD, in the US.
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11:56 |Lupin| jdavidb: MD ?
11:56 jdavidb g'mornin, nengard.  How's the new tattoo?  Looks cool as heck, but I bet that stung a bit.
11:57 nengard stung more than a bit
11:57 nengard hehe
11:57 jdavidb Lupin:  Maryland..a state in the northeastern part of the US.
11:57 nengard and it's a bit sore this am - but other than that great
11:57 |Lupin| jdavidb: ah, okay
11:57 |Lupin| jdavidb:
11:57 |Lupin| jdavidb: thanks
11:57 |Lupin| hello Nicole
11:58 jdavidb you bet.  We're just a loud yell from the national capital, where our office is.  Easy, few-minutes drive to be in Washington DC.
11:59 |Lupin| jdavidb: ah ok, now things start to become a bit more precise to me :)
11:59 jdavidb nengard. Tats on..erm..fluffier parts..don't hurt so bad, I'm told, but those bony spots and tendons and things on the ankle--no fat to pad it, so it hurts more.
11:59 jwagner jdavidb, I beg to differ.  There is no such thing as an easy, few-minute drive in this area unless you can remove every other driver from the roads :-(
12:00 nengard jdavidb - yeah - hubby had his on his arm and he didn't even flinch - but the problem with fluffier parts is that they sag in old age :)
12:00 jdavidb jwagner:  Easy for me; I was a passenger in your vehicle.  Sit down, hold on, and pray.  Easy.  Mighta been hard for *you...*
12:01 |Lupin| pray ? :)
12:01 jwagner jdavidb, your consideration for other people's viewpoints is as always breathtaking :-)
12:02 jwagner |Lupin|, with traffic around here, prayer is sometimes the best option.  Even if you're agnostic.
12:02 jdavidb Lupin:  Riding with jwagner is fun.  She gets along well with all the rest of the traffic, and makes it look easy.
12:02 nahuel gmcharlt, ping
12:02 gmcharlt nahuel: pong
12:02 |Lupin| jwagner: I see. I thought this had to do with the way you drive and found it strange to read such a thing from jdavidb :)
12:02 nahuel gmcharlt, yes ! you're here !
12:02 hdl_laptop hi gmcharlt
12:02 nahuel gmcharlt, did you forget my 3281 patch ?
12:02 nahuel :)
12:02 gmcharlt not, just a bot ;)
12:03 jwagner Well, he MIGHT have been referring to that.  I prefer to think otherwise :-)
12:03 nahuel oh damned !
12:03 nahuel :p
12:03 jdavidb jwagner is not a bad driver, at all.  Nor even "Aggressive."  I prefer the term, "enthusiastic."  I never felt in danger or anything, but it was amazing how fast things were flying by...
12:04 |Lupin| jwagner: let's say it's just me and my tendency to interprete things in a negative way :/
12:04 jwagner Harrumph.
12:05 jwagner jdavidb, I felt the same way when you were driving us through the Dallas freeways!
12:05 jdavidb (Not like in a Boston taxi, where I laid down in the back seat and told the driver to let me know when we were there.
12:06 jdavidb jwagner:  I'm sure.  Dallas is *fast*.  DC traffic seems to be a lot more tightly packed, but not quite so fast.
12:06 kf jwagner: jane, just looked at the new sys prefs I got yesterday - will there be an option to hide messaging in opac? I thought I saw one somewhere
12:07 gmcharlt nahuel: looking at now
12:07 nahuel ok cool!
12:07 kf ok, I thought I saw a patch from you for this, but not sure now :)
12:07 nahuel gmcharlt, I sent it in june
12:07 jwagner kf, do you mean the new messaging system for borrower notes?  Or hiding the messaging tab (where borrowers can set notice prefs?)
12:07 kf second
12:08 gmcharlt nahuel: I'm lokoing at your resend, I mean
12:08 jwagner I sent a patch (see Bug 3535) on August 17 to hide the messaging tab -- not sure if it's made it into head yet.
12:08 nahuel :)
12:08 munin` Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3535 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---,, ASSIGNED, Add syspref to control display of My Messaging tab in OPAC
12:08 nahuel gmcharlt, the resent is rebased on new head / 3.0.x
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12:09 kf jwagner: thx :) good to know its done, can wait and perhaps hide it with css
12:10 jwagner kf, I just uploaded the patch file itself to the bug report, if you want to download and try installing.  Not that I know how to do that myself :-(
12:11 kf kf: have order to avoid customization as far as possible :) but I think css will work, some display:none
12:16 |Lupin| pls
12:17 |Lupin| is it a usual thing o report problems by e-mails to the webmaster in Koha ?
12:17 kf ok, perhaps its a little more difficult
12:17 |Lupin| If so, I'm wondering which function to call to achieve this...
12:32 ricardo Back from lunch
12:33 ricardo |Lupin|: There's a System Preference with the E-mail Address of the Koha Admin for that installation... Is that what you want?
12:34 |Lupin| ricardo: ell... partially. I am more interested in how these e-mails can be sent from within a script
12:35 ricardo |Lupin|: Hmmm... Let me see
12:36 ricardo |Lupin|: The name of the preference is "KohaAdminEmailAddress"
12:36 greenmang0 @wunder mumbai
12:37 munin` greenmang0: The current temperature in Mumbai, India is 30.0�C (5:40 PM IST on October 01, 2009). Conditions: Haze. Humidity: 79%. Dew Point: 26.0�C. Pressure: 29.56 in 1001 hPa (Steady).
12:37 * ricardo is looking for code Koha samples that use System Preferences
12:39 jdavidb if (C4::Context->preference{'sysprefname'} eq "teststring") {  do something }   #like that?
12:39 ricardo jdavidb: Yeah... It will be something like that  :)
12:39 jdavidb Grepping C4 for "preference" will give you more examples than you could possibly want, I think.
12:42 ricardo |Lupin|: done
12:43 ricardo
12:43 |Lupin| ricardo: cool ! thanks a lot for your help !!
12:44 ricardo |Lupin|: You're welcome  :)
12:45 ricardo jdavidb: Thanks for your tip as well... One not... Around 'sysprefname', it should be "(" - parenthesis - and NOT "{" - curly bracket ... At least, in my setup.
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12:50 * jdavidb greps C4.
12:50 jdavidb Sure 'nuf, you're right, ricardo.  :)
12:50 ricardo jdavidb: :)
12:53 ricardo Other development question: shouldn't unconditional "warn" statements in Koha code, appear in the "ErrorLog"s ( /var/log/koha-error_log and /var/log/koha-opac-error_log )?
12:55 |Lupin| ricardo: don't they ?
12:56 ricardo |Lupin|: They are not appearing (since 8-Jun-2009)... At least in my setup... I may be doing something "incredibly" wrong, of course
12:58 |Lupin| ricardo: you may want to check your apache configuration to see whether they are not logged in another file...
12:58 |Lupin| ricardo: e.g. the general error log file rather than the KOha specific one
12:59 ricardo |Lupin|: Right... That's what I'm reading right now, but it seems OK... My eyes may be deceiving me, though
13:01 ricardo Hmm... I wonder if I might have some problems with permissions.... For now, I'll also activate TransferLog and see if the that file (koha-access_log) is created
13:02 * ricardo is restarting Apache ...
13:06 ricardo Right...
13:06 ricardo This DOES seem a permission problems...
13:06 ricardo Log files are being owned by User "root" / Group "root" and only with 644 permissions
13:07 jdavidb I've had the error file suddenly switch back to the apache default ones a couple of times, without changes to the apache config.  Still haven't figured out why, but restarting apache clears it up at once.
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13:08 ricardo jdavidb: Interesting. Thanks for the info... I think that, in my case, the problem is due to having git set up some directories as "subdirectories" of the "/root" directory... But I'll compare the permissions with one "nomal" Koha setup
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13:09 ricardo Yep... These files should be owned by User and Group "koha"
13:11 slef ricardo: do you have logrotate installed?  If so, check /etc/logrotate.d and see if it is rotating your koha logfiles
13:12 ricardo slef: Hi MJ!  :)
13:12 ricardo slef: Thanks... I may check that (although I believe it's not rotating those logfiles)
13:12 jwagner Question on hold slips -- has anyone seen situations where the barcode doesn't print on the slip?  I'm getting reports and screen shots where occasionally the barcode just doesn't print.  It does on other slips.  The item has a barcode, and the template file has the barcode field.  Why would it fail to print on some items?
13:14 ricardo jwagner: Sorry. I don't have ANY experience with hold slips / barcodes  :(
13:15 owen jwagner: Just a wild guess, but could it be an overflow problem? Not enough width, and the printer/browser doesn't manage?
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13:18 chris_n g'morning
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13:19 ricardo Hi chris! :)
13:19 jwagner owen, not sure about that -- it
13:19 jwagner s
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13:20 jwagner try that again.  It's not a lengthy record, and the rest of the slip prints (title, author, etc.)  It's always just the barcode that's missing.
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13:24 owen Hi CGI805, collum
13:24 |Lupin| pls
13:24 collum hi owen
13:24 |Lupin| how should I print a message in a perl script so that it appears n the web browser ? just print it on stdout ?
13:24 |Lupin| (hi owen)
13:26 ricardo Do other people here have to add a "LogLevel warn" line to their Apache configuration files, so they see are able to see unconditional warnings in their Log Files? Or is the "DebugLevel" set to "2", in the Koha System Preferences, enough for that? (I'm guessing that LogLevel is still necessary)
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13:29 Amit happy weekend to all
13:29 slef ricardo: LogLevel is for apache only I think; DebugLevel and KOHA_DEBUG are for Koha
13:29 Amit hi slef
13:29 slef Amit: hi - a bit early for weekending?
13:30 Amit yes 2oct gandhi jayanti
13:30 Amit so national holiday
13:30 slef ah local holiday
13:30 ricardo slef: Right... But where do I see the "warn"ings in Koha? Is it in the web pages of Koha (they are not appearing there, for me)?
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13:39 jwagner Following up on my vanishing barcode -- if you can manage to refresh the print window for the hold slip, the barcode frequently will appear on the second try.  Or if you cancel that print and then do it again, the barcode appears.  I just don't know why it's not getting to that screen the first time.
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13:43 slef ricardo: koha warnings go to the error_log files
13:45 owen jwagner: have you tried doing a view-source on the print window to confirm the data is always coming through?
13:46 ricardo slef: OK... So, I should also put "SetEnv KOHA_DEBUG 2" in the "koha-httpd.conf" file, alongside the "DebugLevel" = 2 in the Koha System Preferences?
13:48 jwagner owen, I managed to get a view source (difficult with it wanting to send directly to printer).  The data does not come through in the source code when the barcode doesn't appear.  I've just opened a bug report (Bug 3686) with examples of view source.
13:48 munin` Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3686 enhancement, P5, ---,, NEW, Hold slips sometimes don't print barcode
13:48 jwagner It seems to be a browser problem of some kind, since a refresh does fix it.  I don't know how to zero in on it, though.
13:49 slef ricardo: it depends what you are trying to debug
13:50 ricardo slef:  If I add a "warn" statement in a subroutine of C4/ that is called... where will that message appear?
13:51 |Lupin| is it possible to run a Koha CGI script from the command-line _and_ log in ? I know how to give it the other parameters in the QUERY_STRING, but how about login and password ?
13:52 |Lupin| ricardo: printed to stderr of your script, so normally it should end up in a log file.
13:52 slef ricardo: all over error_log I think
13:53 slef |Lupin|: only with the usual sort of web app test tools... you send it login and password, then capture the cookie and send that with further requests
13:54 |Lupin| slef: you can't send everything at once by using the right environment variables and so on ?
13:54 ricardo slef: OK... It's getting logged in /var/log/apache2/other_vhosts_access.log
13:54 slef |Lupin|: I think login is always a distinct step but I don't remember this stuff without my notes.
13:54 slef ricardo: ouch!
13:55 |Lupin| slef: it probably means the direcives in the KOha vhost are not taken into account for some reasons
13:55 ricardo |Lupin|: *nod*
13:56 slef check with "apache2ctl -S"
13:56 slef which should print apache's understanding of the config
13:56 ricardo slef: Right... Output of that looks good
13:57 ricardo I won't worry with that for now... What I wanted was to *find* the warnings to debug a specific problem  :)
13:57 slef have you told apache to reload its config (either init.d/apache2 reload or apache2ctl graceful) since changing the config last?
13:57 slef ok, nm
13:57 ricardo slef: I did apache2 *restart* ("restart" should also "reload", I think)
13:58 ricardo slef: Maybe LogRotate is at fault here, like you suggested. Oh well...
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14:32 nengard morning boss (aka brendan) :) hehe
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14:35 wizzyrea hehe oh that's nice to see
14:35 wizzyrea and 'mornin nicole
14:36 brendan morning nengard
14:37 brendan morning wizzyrea
14:37 jwagner question for libraries with parent-child records. For notices, (a) does the notice go to the child, or to the guarantor record?  and (b) if to the child and the child does not have an email address, does it go to the guarantor's email?
14:55 owen Argh.... "Open" lists are such a pain in the butt.
14:55 owen Can we just do away with them please?
14:56 ricardo owen: "lists" in the "virtual shelves" sense?
14:56 owen Yes. They're referred to as lists in 3.x
15:00 owen I appreciate the wiki-like spirit of an open list, but without some kind of revision history it's too easy to delete stuff forever.
15:02 owen And meanwhile, we've got a night mare of divergent permissions with regard to when someone can create a list or add something to a list.
15:02 owen Should the "add to list" feature always be present because one could always create an open list?
15:03 ricardo owen: I guess so (but I don't use "lists")
15:04 ricardo owen: You *might* check beforehand if there's already a "open list" / "public list" created and only display a "Add to List" if there's one
15:06 ricardo OK...
15:07 ricardo This particular NoZebra setup looks a bit... err... weird:
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15:10 ricardo There's only one row in the "nozebra" table that has "biblionumbers" field filled in, with a VERY LONG text... It ends like so:
15:10 ricardo ...  374,lessysteme-1;376,lesyndrome-1;384,palma​resle-1;386,networldin-1;395,lesgestion-1;
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15:12 ricardo Should those words appear in the "biblionumbers" field?
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15:20 owen Does anyone know if it's possible to combine some kind of variable output with mysqldump to generate a file with the date as part of the filename?
15:21 ricardo owen: I usually create a small Perl script for that  :)
15:23 collum owen: there is a shell script at[…]ysqlbackup/files/ that does it.
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15:52 |Lupin| bye everybody
15:52 |Lupin| take care
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16:11 nengard anyone on with a bit of xml knowledge?  I'm trying to convert XHTML to Docbook - and this site: says to use the stylesheet - but how do I apply the stylesheet?
16:14 nicomo nengard:[…]ed.html#id2522295 might be of help
16:14 nengard thanks nicomo
16:14 nengard off to read it
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16:18 CGI976 hello
16:19 CGI976 i am a koha user
16:21 ricardo CGI976: Hi. You may change your nickname by typing  /nick <desired nickname>
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17:13 nengard nicomo that worked - i figured it out - not sure how we're going to get the images over - but I've made a start
17:13 nicomo cool
17:13 nicomo that's a first step, we'll see
17:23 ricardo hdl_laptop: Are you still there?
17:25 ricardo Is anyone here familiar with the "rtrn" operator in the "" file? Should it be called in "keyword" searches? It is currently, and I'm not sure why
17:25 hdl_laptop ricardo: yes
17:26 hdl_laptop rtrn operator is for right truncation
17:27 hdl_laptop Maybe you have queryautotruncate set to 1
17:27 hdl_laptop ricardo: yes <= I am familiar with rtrn
17:27 ricardo hdl_laptop: Right... The thing is: keyword searches for ONE keyword are returning zero results... (although they exist)...
17:27 ricardo hdl_laptop: But keyword searches for TWO keywords return the right results
17:28 ricardo Example:
17:28 ricardo[…]
17:28 ricardo VS
17:28 ricardo[…]lu%C3%ADs+vidigal
17:30 ricardo hdl_laptop: Do you see what I mean?
17:30 hdl_laptop[…]=Anything+vidigal
17:30 ricardo hdl_laptop: Yes... I don't know if a keyword search is, by default, an "AND" or an "OR" search...
17:31 ricardo ... but if you search for only ONE term, it should display the results
17:31 ricardo right?
17:32 hdl_laptop yes.
17:33 ricardo hdl_laptop: So, that's what's puzzling me  :(
17:33 hdl_laptop two words search should be and AND
17:33 ricardo hdl_laptop: OK... That would be *another* problem then
17:33 hdl_laptop Why ?
17:33 hdl_laptop if you are looking for Luis Vidigal
17:34 hdl_laptop you are not looking for Luis || Vidigal
17:34 ricardo hdl_laptop: The problem that I'm presenting now is that a simple search for "vidigal" should return some results... and it is NOT returning
17:34 hdl_laptop ok.
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17:37 hdl_laptop ricardo: I believe it has to do with lines 1019
17:37 hdl_laptop in
17:38 |Lupin| hi again
17:38 ricardo hdl_laptop: "# Field-weighted queries already have indexes set"  ?
17:38 hdl_laptop no
17:38 ricardo |Lupin|: Hi Sébastien :)
17:38 |Lupin| ricardo: hi Ricardo :/
17:38 hdl_laptop my $cclq;
17:38 hdl_laptop my $cclindexes = getIndexes();
17:38 hdl_laptop if( $query !~ /\s*ccl=/ ){
17:38 hdl_laptop for my $index (@$cclindexes){
17:38 hdl_laptop if($query =~ /($index)(,?\w)*:/){
17:39 hdl_laptop which version are you on ?
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17:40 ricardo hdl_laptop: git version for 3.0.x branch
17:41 ricardo[…]8e96e6d6;hb=3.0.x
17:43 chris morning
17:43 nicomo morning chris
17:43 chris nengard: use herold
17:44 brendan morning chris
17:44 chris[…]t/en/html2db.html
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17:45 |Lupin| hi chris
17:45 nengard chris couldn't figure it out - but I did it without it :)
17:48 hdl_laptop ricardo: yes 1019 is what i pasted
17:48 ricardo chris: Hi! I already received an updated Portuguese translation file from the SAPO Summerbits student (Marta Grachat). She'll send me a still more updated version in the next few days. When that happens, should I submit it to "git" for the Koha 3.0.x branch, so it gets accepted for Koha 3.0.4?
17:49 chris cool nengard
17:49 hdl_laptop ricardo you had better pass through upload on Pootle
17:49 ricardo hdl_laptop: regarding Pootle => OK
17:49 hdl_laptop ricardo: it is high time for me to have a break.
17:49 hdl_laptop Will investiguate on your pb
17:50 chris ricardo: yes, through pootle or me, (who will put it through pootle) or i will overwrite it from pootle next time i update the git repo
17:50 ricardo hdl_laptop: OK, thanks:)  I may also try do debug this myself, but I do need some hints to do it...please? :)
17:51 ricardo chris: OK... I'll upload it through Pootle then. Thanks
17:53 chris awesome
17:53 chris grrrr
17:53 chris this is annoying
17:53 ricardo chris: what?
17:53 chris[…]e-enterprise-koha
17:53 chris stop advertising your fork on !!!
17:54 |Lupin| please
17:54 |Lupin| I'm wondering
17:54 |Lupin| in templates
17:54 |Lupin| is it possible to write something between the TMPL_ELSE and the --> ?
17:54 ricardo |Lupin|: No wonder... Templates are a wonderful thing  ;-)   (sorry... I'll stop now)
17:55 chris like what |Lupin| ?
17:55 |Lupin| e.g. <!-- TMPL_ELSE variable--> to make clear to with TMPL_IF the TMPL_ELSE is related... ?
17:56 chris no
17:56 |Lupin| ricardo: yeah I agree they offer a very nice functionality and a rather nice way to separate the code from the visual presentation. But I find them rather difficult to write
17:56 chris the way you do that is with good indentation
17:57 ricardo hdl_laptop: Still there? Other simple comparison (it may help you helping me, while debugging):
17:57 |Lupin| chris: ah yes, why not. I was a bit reluctant to indent, because I recalled lynx doing funny things with indented code...
17:57 ricardo hdl_laptop:[…]
17:57 ricardo hdl_laptop: (that one gives 0 results)
17:58 wizzyrea it's too bad you can't make comments on the announcements
17:58 ricardo hdl_laptop: Vs
17:58 ricardo hdl_laptop:[…]?idx=au&q=vidigal
17:58 ricardo hdl_laptop: (that one gives 2 results)
18:02 chris wizzyrea: its too bad we cant do much of anything on that website
18:03 wizzyrea grr
18:04 |Lupin| why is this so ?
18:04 chris because liblime control it
18:04 |Lupin| because of plone or because nobody has the rights ?
18:04 |Lupin| chris: right
18:04 |Lupin| and nobody can hep ?
18:04 |Lupin| nengard: perhaps ?
18:04 chris she doesnt work for liblime
18:04 chris she had the good sense to leave
18:05 |Lupin| ah...
18:07 nengard what might i know?
18:09 |Lupin| nengard: I didn't mean you might "know" something
18:10 ricardo nengard: I think that only you know what you might know  ;-)
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18:10 wizzyrea |Lupin| b/c nobody has the rights to Plone :P
18:10 |Lupin| nengard: actually, I didn't know you ere nolonger working for liblime, so I thought yo may have the rights on the site
18:10 wizzyrea hehe
18:11 |Lupin| wizzyrea: k
18:14 nengard |Lupin| I work for ByWater and Biblibre now - starting today :) but even if I didn't - I only had/have rights to the documentation area
18:14 ricardo nengard: Right... Today is the 1st October. I wish you a great 1st day! :)
18:14 ricardo nengard: Are you doing all the work remotely now ("telecommuting")?
18:15 brendan happy october 1st :)
18:15 nengard ricardo thanks :) it's going well - lots of documentation research done - trying to fidn a way to make the documentation more accessible and translatable
18:15 nengard yes - i telecommute
18:15 wizzyrea yes, tomorrow is my anniversary! I <3 October 1-2!
18:15 nengard would be hard to work in france and california at the same time :)
18:15 nengard congrats wizzyrea
18:15 wizzyrea ty ty
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18:16 ricardo nengard: LOL! Obviously, eheh... But I was wondering if you were working physically in "ByWater" and remotely for "BibLibre"
18:16 nengard hehe - nope ;) I'm at home for both - home in PA - I love my house and my area and don't want to move - and hubby loves his job - and he can't telecommute
18:17 nengard tonight i get to teach future librarians at Rutgers about open source software :)
18:18 ricardo nengard: Cool  :)  Now, I'm very curious... Only answer if you wish: what kind of contract do you have with them (NOT asking about salary / payment, just about the kind of work relation)?
18:18 nengard I'm doing a little bit of everything and anything really
18:18 nengard kind of what i like
18:18 nengard first priority is to fix the documentation so that biblibre and translate it easily
18:18 nengard i'll also still do writing and teaching of open source
18:18 nengard and i'll help with migrations
18:18 ricardo nengard: Hmmm... But are you working as a contractor? (I was wondering more about "legal terms")
18:19 nengard and programming (as I learn more)
18:19 nengard ricardo - ah - i work for bywater in the US and they handle the contract part with biblibre
18:20 ricardo nengard: OK. That answers half of my questions  :)  The 2nd one would be: have you been hired as an employee by "ByWater" or is it some other kind of arrangement?
18:20 brendan ricardo -- main goal was to keep nengard in the community as much as possible so We (ByWater) and biblibre got together and made it possible :)
18:21 ricardo brendan: Yes, and that's great! Hats off to all of you (ByWater, BibLibre ... and Nicole, obviously!) :)
18:22 chris ok time to get ready for work
18:22 ricardo chris: OK Chris. Take care!  :)
18:23 |Lupin| nengard: it's very cool to have ou in the community, I'm happy you stay around althoughyou are not at liblime anylonger.
18:35 ricardo Time to go home. Take care people!  :)
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18:50 chris |Lupin|: its because she isnt liblime she can stay around :)
18:53 chris and with that, time to catch my bus cyas in 40 mins or so
18:53 * chris hopes its not the whiplash bus today
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19:28 * owen thanks wizzyrea for reminding him of his anniversary by mentioning hers
19:31 wizzyrea owen: you're welcome
19:31 wizzyrea (when is it?)
19:31 owen Sunday!
19:31 wizzyrea !!
19:31 wizzyrea whew! at least you'll have time to plan!
19:32 wizzyrea (if you do that sort of thing)
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19:34 richard hi
19:44 chris mine is the 10th
19:44 chris 10/10
19:44 chris we picked that day, cos it works the same for american's and nzers :)
19:45 |Lupin| k, enough perl hacking for today
19:45 |Lupin| see you later guys !
19:46 wizzyrea october_weddings++
19:46 chris cya |Lupin|
19:46 |Lupin| see you chris, have a nice day
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19:47 owen chris: I'd be happy to receive anniversary congratulations on April 10th *and* Oct. 4th :)
19:47 chris :-)
19:48 chris way i see it, its just twice as much chance to get in trouble for forgetting
19:48 chris :)
19:48 wizzyrea lol
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19:55 chris
19:55 chris song for a sunny wellington day
19:56 chris with some nice nz scenery
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20:04 Jo morning all
20:05 chris hi Jo
20:07 wizzyrea oh that is cherful
20:07 wizzyrea cheerful
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22:02 pianohacker Good afternoon, #koha
22:02 chris heya pianohacker
22:02 pianohacker hi chris
22:03 pianohacker how's it going?
22:04 chris pretty good, how bout urself?
22:04 pianohacker good, catching up in school
22:05 chris cool ;)
22:05 brendan afternoon pianohacker
22:05 pianohacker hi brendan
22:05 chris <-- yay
22:06 brendan what's the homework for today :)
22:06 pianohacker ahh, a physics assignment
22:07 brendan cool physics was my favorite
22:07 pianohacker with online homeschool, my schedule is largely self-determined, as long as I get everything in
22:08 brendan that's a different model than I had
22:08 pianohacker it's kind of fun to figure out mechanics of everyday stuff (normal forces, friction and whatnot)
22:08 brendan I had a scary physics teacher
22:08 brendan he wouldn't let me into his class unless I was clean shaved...
22:08 brendan he was an old Navy guy
22:11 pianohacker haha
22:11 pianohacker and I thought I was suffering with my physics teacher's monotonous voice
22:22 pianohacker has anyone else read the design documents for barrelfish?
22:22 chris not i
22:23 pianohacker - very interesting thoughts on multiprocessor os development
22:24 * chris bookmarks
22:25 brendan why the name barrelfish
22:25 pianohacker also readable, which is a nice change after trying to puzzle through things like j-pake
22:25 pianohacker no idea
22:25 pianohacker it's microsoft-related, the name doesn't have to make sense
22:25 brendan ha
22:26 brendan a bunch of smart looking pale people :)
22:27 pianohacker notice that they took one of the attractive women and put her in the front row
22:27 brendan yup
22:28 rhcl She's the only woman! Where else to put her?
22:28 chris she shold be off at the windows 7 party
22:28 pianohacker heh. where all of the male geeks visiting the site will see her, of course :P
22:29 brendan did google have their wave party yet ?
22:29 chris (worst advertising campaign ever the windows 7 youtube videos)
22:29 pianohacker looks like someone else peeking over shoulders at the back; maybe she didn't make the cut
22:29 pianohacker chris: a mediocre advertising campaign from microsoft? how shocking!
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22:48 pianohacker Time to get back to school, cya #koha
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23:04 chris_n^2 @later tell pianohacker interesting article on quantum physics and entanglement with relation to quantum computing[…]in_the_macroworld
23:04 munin` chris_n^2: The operation succeeded.
23:07 brendan cya later #koha
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23:23 richard is now known as rich-away
23:30 chris_n^2 does anyone know of a good FOSS GPS package?
23:32 * chris_n^2 discovers GPS::NMEA on cpan
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