Time  Nick        Message
23:32 * chris_n^2 discovers GPS::NMEA on cpan
23:30 chris_n^2   does anyone know of a good FOSS GPS package?
23:07 brendan     cya later #koha
23:04 munin`      chris_n^2: The operation succeeded.
23:04 chris_n^2   @later tell pianohacker interesting article on quantum physics and entanglement with relation to quantum computing http://www.sciencenews.org/view/generic/id/47638/title/Entanglement_in_the_macroworld
22:48 pianohacker Time to get back to school, cya #koha
22:29 pianohacker chris: a mediocre advertising campaign from microsoft? how shocking!
22:29 pianohacker looks like someone else peeking over shoulders at the back; maybe she didn't make the cut
22:29 chris       (worst advertising campaign ever the windows 7 youtube videos)
22:29 brendan     did google have their wave party yet ?
22:28 pianohacker heh. where all of the male geeks visiting the site will see her, of course :P
22:28 chris       she shold be off at the windows 7 party
22:28 rhcl        She's the only woman! Where else to put her?
22:27 brendan     yup
22:27 pianohacker notice that they took one of the attractive women and put her in the front row
22:26 brendan     a bunch of smart looking pale people :)
22:25 brendan     ha
22:25 pianohacker it's microsoft-related, the name doesn't have to make sense
22:25 pianohacker no idea
22:25 pianohacker also readable, which is a nice change after trying to puzzle through things like j-pake
22:25 brendan     why the name barrelfish
22:24 * chris     bookmarks
22:23 pianohacker http://www.barrelfish.org/ - very interesting thoughts on multiprocessor os development
22:22 chris       not i
22:22 pianohacker has anyone else read the design documents for barrelfish?
22:11 pianohacker and I thought I was suffering with my physics teacher's monotonous voice
22:11 pianohacker haha
22:08 brendan     he was an old Navy guy
22:08 brendan     he wouldn't let me into his class unless I was clean shaved...
22:08 brendan     I had a scary physics teacher
22:08 pianohacker it's kind of fun to figure out mechanics of everyday stuff (normal forces, friction and whatnot)
22:08 brendan     that's a different model than I had
22:07 pianohacker with online homeschool, my schedule is largely self-determined, as long as I get everything in
22:07 brendan     cool physics was my favorite
22:06 pianohacker ahh, a physics assignment
22:06 brendan     what's the homework for today :)
22:05 chris       http://bywatersolutions.com/wordpress/?p=53 <-- yay
22:05 pianohacker hi brendan
22:05 brendan     afternoon pianohacker
22:05 chris       cool ;)
22:04 pianohacker good, catching up in school
22:04 chris       pretty good, how bout urself?
22:03 pianohacker how's it going?
22:02 pianohacker hi chris
22:02 chris       heya pianohacker
22:02 pianohacker Good afternoon, #koha
20:07 wizzyrea    cheerful
20:07 wizzyrea    oh that is cherful
20:05 chris       hi Jo
20:04 Jo          morning all
19:56 chris       with some nice nz scenery
19:55 chris       song for a sunny wellington day
19:55 chris       http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DRGo-Zp8_3A
19:48 wizzyrea    lol
19:48 chris       :)
19:48 chris       way i see it, its just twice as much chance to get in trouble for forgetting
19:47 chris       :-)
19:47 owen        chris: I'd be happy to receive anniversary congratulations on April 10th *and* Oct. 4th :)
19:46 |Lupin|     see you chris, have a nice day
19:46 chris       cya |Lupin|
19:46 wizzyrea    october_weddings++
19:45 |Lupin|     see you later guys !
19:45 |Lupin|     k, enough perl hacking for today
19:44 chris       we picked that day, cos it works the same for american's and nzers :)
19:44 chris       10/10
19:44 chris       mine is the 10th
19:34 richard     hi
19:32 wizzyrea    (if you do that sort of thing)
19:31 wizzyrea    whew! at least you'll have time to plan!
19:31 wizzyrea    !!
19:31 owen        Sunday!
19:31 wizzyrea    (when is it?)
19:31 wizzyrea    owen: you're welcome
19:28 * owen      thanks wizzyrea for reminding him of his anniversary by mentioning hers
18:53 * chris     hopes its not the whiplash bus today
18:53 chris       and with that, time to catch my bus cyas in 40 mins or so
18:50 chris       |Lupin|: its because she isnt liblime she can stay around :)
18:35 ricardo     Time to go home. Take care people!  :)
18:23 |Lupin|     nengard: it's very cool to have ou in the community, I'm happy you stay around althoughyou are not at liblime anylonger.
18:22 ricardo     chris: OK Chris. Take care!  :)
18:22 chris       ok time to get ready for work
18:21 ricardo     brendan: Yes, and that's great! Hats off to all of you (ByWater, BibLibre ... and Nicole, obviously!) :)
18:20 brendan     ricardo -- main goal was to keep nengard in the community as much as possible so We (ByWater) and biblibre got together and made it possible :)
18:20 ricardo     nengard: OK. That answers half of my questions  :)  The 2nd one would be: have you been hired as an employee by "ByWater" or is it some other kind of arrangement?
18:19 nengard     ricardo - ah - i work for bywater in the US and they handle the contract part with biblibre
18:19 nengard     and programming (as I learn more)
18:18 ricardo     nengard: Hmmm... But are you working as a contractor? (I was wondering more about "legal terms")
18:18 nengard     and i'll help with migrations
18:18 nengard     i'll also still do writing and teaching of open source
18:18 nengard     first priority is to fix the documentation so that biblibre and translate it easily
18:18 nengard     kind of what i like
18:18 nengard     I'm doing a little bit of everything and anything really
18:18 ricardo     nengard: Cool  :)  Now, I'm very curious... Only answer if you wish: what kind of contract do you have with them (NOT asking about salary / payment, just about the kind of work relation)?
18:17 nengard     tonight i get to teach future librarians at Rutgers about open source software :)
18:16 nengard     hehe - nope ;) I'm at home for both - home in PA - I love my house and my area and don't want to move - and hubby loves his job - and he can't telecommute
18:16 ricardo     nengard: LOL! Obviously, eheh... But I was wondering if you were working physically in "ByWater" and remotely for "BibLibre"
18:15 wizzyrea    ty ty
18:15 nengard     congrats wizzyrea
18:15 nengard     would be hard to work in france and california at the same time :)
18:15 wizzyrea    yes, tomorrow is my anniversary! I <3 October 1-2!
18:15 nengard     yes - i telecommute
18:15 nengard     ricardo thanks :) it's going well - lots of documentation research done - trying to fidn a way to make the documentation more accessible and translatable
18:15 brendan     happy october 1st :)
18:14 ricardo     nengard: Are you doing all the work remotely now ("telecommuting")?
18:14 ricardo     nengard: Right... Today is the 1st October. I wish you a great 1st day! :)
18:14 nengard     |Lupin| I work for ByWater and Biblibre now - starting today :) but even if I didn't - I only had/have rights to the documentation area
18:11 |Lupin|     wizzyrea: k
18:10 wizzyrea    hehe
18:10 |Lupin|     nengard: actually, I didn't know you ere nolonger working for liblime, so I thought yo may have the rights on the koha.org site
18:10 wizzyrea    |Lupin| b/c nobody has the rights to Plone :P
18:10 ricardo     nengard: I think that only you know what you might know  ;-)
18:09 |Lupin|     nengard: I didn't mean you might "know" something
18:07 nengard     what might i know?
18:05 |Lupin|     ah...
18:04 chris       she had the good sense to leave
18:04 chris       she doesnt work for liblime
18:04 |Lupin|     nengard: perhaps ?
18:04 |Lupin|     and nobody can hep ?
18:04 |Lupin|     chris: right
18:04 |Lupin|     because of plone or because nobody has the rights ?
18:04 chris       because liblime control it
18:04 |Lupin|     why is this so ?
18:03 wizzyrea    grr
18:02 chris       wizzyrea: its too bad we cant do much of anything on that website
17:58 ricardo     hdl_laptop: (that one gives 2 results)
17:58 ricardo     hdl_laptop: http://koha30x.kohademo.info/cgi-bin/koha/opac-search.pl?idx=au&q=vidigal
17:58 ricardo     hdl_laptop: Vs
17:58 wizzyrea    it's too bad you can't make comments on the announcements
17:57 ricardo     hdl_laptop: (that one gives 0 results)
17:57 ricardo     hdl_laptop: http://koha30x.kohademo.info/cgi-bin/koha/opac-search.pl?q=vidigal
17:57 |Lupin|     chris: ah yes, why not. I was a bit reluctant to indent, because I recalled lynx doing funny things with indented code...
17:57 ricardo     hdl_laptop: Still there? Other simple comparison (it may help you helping me, while debugging):
17:56 chris       the way you do that is with good indentation
17:56 |Lupin|     ricardo: yeah I agree they offer a very nice functionality and a rather nice way to separate the code from the visual presentation. But I find them rather difficult to write
17:56 chris       no
17:55 |Lupin|     e.g. <!-- TMPL_ELSE variable--> to make clear to with TMPL_IF the TMPL_ELSE is related... ?
17:55 chris       like what |Lupin| ?
17:54 ricardo     |Lupin|: No wonder... Templates are a wonderful thing  ;-)   (sorry... I'll stop now)
17:54 |Lupin|     is it possible to write something between the TMPL_ELSE and the --> ?
17:54 |Lupin|     in templates
17:54 |Lupin|     I'm wondering
17:54 |Lupin|     please
17:53 chris       stop advertising your fork on koha.org !!!
17:53 chris       http://koha.org/news/hiwassee-college-library-now-live-on-liblime-enterprise-koha
17:53 ricardo     chris: what?
17:53 chris       this is annoying
17:53 chris       grrrr
17:53 chris       awesome
17:51 ricardo     chris: OK... I'll upload it through Pootle then. Thanks
17:50 ricardo     hdl_laptop: OK, thanks:)  I may also try do debug this myself, but I do need some hints to do it...please? :)
17:50 chris       ricardo: yes, through pootle or me, (who will put it through pootle) or i will overwrite it from pootle next time i update the git repo
17:49 hdl_laptop  Will investiguate on your pb
17:49 hdl_laptop  ricardo: it is high time for me to have a break.
17:49 ricardo     hdl_laptop: regarding Pootle => OK
17:49 hdl_laptop  ricardo you had better pass through upload on Pootle
17:49 chris       cool nengard
17:48 ricardo     chris: Hi! I already received an updated Portuguese translation file from the SAPO Summerbits student (Marta Grachat). She'll send me a still more updated version in the next few days. When that happens, should I submit it to "git" for the Koha 3.0.x branch, so it gets accepted for Koha 3.0.4?
17:48 hdl_laptop  ricardo: yes 1019 is what i pasted
17:45 nengard     chris couldn't figure it out - but I did it without it :)
17:45 |Lupin|     hi chris
17:44 chris       http://www.michael-a-fuchs.de/projects/dbdoclet/en/html2db.html
17:44 brendan     morning chris
17:43 chris       nengard: use herold
17:43 nicomo      morning chris
17:43 chris       morning
17:41 ricardo     http://git.koha.org/cgi-bin/gitweb.cgi?p=Koha;a=blob;f=C4/Search.pm;h=809bc87ea4108ab81339b69ce69b89668e96e6d6;hb=3.0.x
17:40 ricardo     hdl_laptop: git version for 3.0.x branch
17:39 hdl_laptop  which version are you on ?
17:38 hdl_laptop  if($query =~ /($index)(,?\w)*:/){
17:38 hdl_laptop  for my $index (@$cclindexes){
17:38 hdl_laptop  if( $query !~ /\s*ccl=/ ){
17:38 hdl_laptop  my $cclindexes = getIndexes();
17:38 hdl_laptop  my $cclq;
17:38 |Lupin|     ricardo: hi Ricardo :/
17:38 ricardo     |Lupin|: Hi Sébastien :)
17:38 hdl_laptop  no
17:38 ricardo     hdl_laptop: "# Field-weighted queries already have indexes set"  ?
17:38 |Lupin|     hi again
17:37 hdl_laptop  in Search.pm
17:37 hdl_laptop  ricardo: I believe it has to do with lines 1019
17:34 hdl_laptop  ok.
17:34 ricardo     hdl_laptop: The problem that I'm presenting now is that a simple search for "vidigal" should return some results... and it is NOT returning
17:34 hdl_laptop  you are not looking for Luis || Vidigal
17:33 hdl_laptop  if you are looking for Luis Vidigal
17:33 hdl_laptop  Why ?
17:33 ricardo     hdl_laptop: OK... That would be *another* problem then
17:33 hdl_laptop  two words search should be and AND
17:33 ricardo     hdl_laptop: So, that's what's puzzling me  :(
17:32 hdl_laptop  yes.
17:31 ricardo     right?
17:31 ricardo     ... but if you search for only ONE term, it should display the results
17:30 ricardo     hdl_laptop: Yes... I don't know if a keyword search is, by default, an "AND" or an "OR" search...
17:30 hdl_laptop  http://koha30x.kohademo.info/cgi-bin/koha/opac-search.pl?q=Anything+vidigal
17:30 ricardo     hdl_laptop: Do you see what I mean?
17:28 ricardo     http://koha30x.kohademo.info/cgi-bin/koha/opac-search.pl?q=lu%C3%ADs+vidigal
17:28 ricardo     VS
17:28 ricardo     http://koha30x.kohademo.info/cgi-bin/koha/opac-search.pl?q=vidigal
17:28 ricardo     Example:
17:27 ricardo     hdl_laptop: But keyword searches for TWO keywords return the right results
17:27 ricardo     hdl_laptop: Right... The thing is: keyword searches for ONE keyword are returning zero results... (although they exist)...
17:27 hdl_laptop  ricardo: yes <= I am familiar with rtrn
17:27 hdl_laptop  Maybe you have queryautotruncate set to 1
17:26 hdl_laptop  rtrn operator is for right truncation
17:25 hdl_laptop  ricardo: yes
17:25 ricardo     Is anyone here familiar with the "rtrn" operator in the "Search.pm" file? Should it be called in "keyword" searches? It is currently, and I'm not sure why
17:23 ricardo     hdl_laptop: Are you still there?
17:13 nicomo      that's a first step, we'll see
17:13 nicomo      cool
17:13 nengard     nicomo that worked - i figured it out - not sure how we're going to get the images over - but I've made a start
16:21 ricardo     CGI976: Hi. You may change your nickname by typing  /nick <desired nickname>
16:19 CGI976      i am a koha user
16:18 CGI976      hello
16:14 nengard     off to read it
16:14 nengard     thanks nicomo
16:14 nicomo      nengard: http://infomotions.com/musings/getting-started/getting-started.html#id2522295 might be of help
16:11 nengard     anyone on with a bit of xml knowledge?  I'm trying to convert XHTML to Docbook - and this site: http://wiki.docbook.org/topic/Html2DocBook says to use the stylesheet - but how do I apply the stylesheet?
15:52 |Lupin|     take care
15:52 |Lupin|     bye everybody
15:23 collum      owen: there is a shell script at http://sourceforge.net/projects/automysqlbackup/files/ that does it.
15:21 ricardo     owen: I usually create a small Perl script for that  :)
15:20 owen        Does anyone know if it's possible to combine some kind of variable output with mysqldump to generate a file with the date as part of the filename?
15:12 ricardo     Should those words appear in the "biblionumbers" field?
15:10 ricardo     ...  374,lessysteme-1;376,lesyndrome-1;384,palmaresle-1;386,networldin-1;395,lesgestion-1;
15:10 ricardo     There's only one row in the "nozebra" table that has "biblionumbers" field filled in, with a VERY LONG text... It ends like so:
15:07 ricardo     This particular NoZebra setup looks a bit... err... weird:
15:06 ricardo     OK...
15:04 ricardo     owen: You *might* check beforehand if there's already a "open list" / "public list" created and only display a "Add to List" if there's one
15:03 ricardo     owen: I guess so (but I don't use "lists")
15:02 owen        Should the "add to list" feature always be present because one could always create an open list?
15:02 owen        And meanwhile, we've got a night mare of divergent permissions with regard to when someone can create a list or add something to a list.
15:00 owen        I appreciate the wiki-like spirit of an open list, but without some kind of revision history it's too easy to delete stuff forever.
14:56 owen        Yes. They're referred to as lists in 3.x
14:56 ricardo     owen: "lists" in the "virtual shelves" sense?
14:55 owen        Can we just do away with them please?
14:55 owen        Argh.... "Open" lists are such a pain in the butt.
14:37 jwagner     question for libraries with parent-child records. For notices, (a) does the notice go to the child, or to the guarantor record?  and (b) if to the child and the child does not have an email address, does it go to the guarantor's email?
14:37 brendan     morning wizzyrea
14:36 brendan     morning nengard
14:35 wizzyrea    and 'mornin nicole
14:35 wizzyrea    hehe oh that's nice to see
14:32 nengard     morning boss (aka brendan) :) hehe
13:58 ricardo     slef: Maybe LogRotate is at fault here, like you suggested. Oh well...
13:57 ricardo     slef: I did apache2 *restart* ("restart" should also "reload", I think)
13:57 slef        ok, nm
13:57 slef        have you told apache to reload its config (either init.d/apache2 reload or apache2ctl graceful) since changing the config last?
13:57 ricardo     I won't worry with that for now... What I wanted was to *find* the warnings to debug a specific problem  :)
13:56 ricardo     slef: Right... Output of that looks good
13:56 slef        which should print apache's understanding of the config
13:56 slef        check with "apache2ctl -S"
13:55 ricardo     |Lupin|: *nod*
13:55 |Lupin|     slef: it probably means the direcives in the KOha vhost are not taken into account for some reasons
13:54 slef        ricardo: ouch!
13:54 slef        |Lupin|: I think login is always a distinct step but I don't remember this stuff without my notes.
13:54 ricardo     slef: OK... It's getting logged in /var/log/apache2/other_vhosts_access.log
13:54 |Lupin|     slef: you can't send everything at once by using the right environment variables and so on ?
13:53 slef        |Lupin|: only with the usual sort of web app test tools... you send it login and password, then capture the cookie and send that with further requests
13:52 slef        ricardo: all over error_log I think
13:52 |Lupin|     ricardo: printed to stderr of your script, so normally it should end up in a log file.
13:51 |Lupin|     is it possible to run a Koha CGI script from the command-line _and_ log in ? I know how to give it the other parameters in the QUERY_STRING, but how about login and password ?
13:50 ricardo     slef:  If I add a "warn" statement in a subroutine of C4/Search.pm that is called... where will that message appear?
13:49 slef        ricardo: it depends what you are trying to debug
13:48 jwagner     It seems to be a browser problem of some kind, since a refresh does fix it.  I don't know how to zero in on it, though.
13:48 munin`      04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3686 enhancement, P5, ---, gmcharlt@gmail.com, NEW, Hold slips sometimes don't print barcode
13:48 jwagner     owen, I managed to get a view source (difficult with it wanting to send directly to printer).  The data does not come through in the source code when the barcode doesn't appear.  I've just opened a bug report (Bug 3686) with examples of view source.
13:46 ricardo     slef: OK... So, I should also put "SetEnv KOHA_DEBUG 2" in the "koha-httpd.conf" file, alongside the "DebugLevel" = 2 in the Koha System Preferences?
13:45 owen        jwagner: have you tried doing a view-source on the print window to confirm the data is always coming through?
13:43 slef        ricardo: koha warnings go to the error_log files
13:39 jwagner     Following up on my vanishing barcode -- if you can manage to refresh the print window for the hold slip, the barcode frequently will appear on the second try.  Or if you cancel that print and then do it again, the barcode appears.  I just don't know why it's not getting to that screen the first time.
13:30 ricardo     slef: Right... But where do I see the "warn"ings in Koha? Is it in the web pages of Koha (they are not appearing there, for me)?
13:30 slef        ah local holiday
13:30 Amit        so national holiday
13:30 Amit        yes 2oct gandhi jayanti
13:29 slef        Amit: hi - a bit early for weekending?
13:29 Amit        hi slef
13:29 slef        ricardo: LogLevel is for apache only I think; DebugLevel and KOHA_DEBUG are for Koha
13:29 Amit        happy weekend to all
13:26 ricardo     Do other people here have to add a "LogLevel warn" line to their Apache configuration files, so they see are able to see unconditional warnings in their Log Files? Or is the "DebugLevel" set to "2", in the Koha System Preferences, enough for that? (I'm guessing that LogLevel is still necessary)
13:24 |Lupin|     (hi owen)
13:24 |Lupin|     how should I print a message in a perl script so that it appears n the web browser ? just print it on stdout ?
13:24 collum      hi owen
13:24 |Lupin|     pls
13:24 owen        Hi CGI805, collum
13:20 jwagner     try that again.  It's not a lengthy record, and the rest of the slip prints (title, author, etc.)  It's always just the barcode that's missing.
13:19 jwagner     s
13:19 jwagner     owen, not sure about that -- it
13:19 ricardo     Hi chris! :)
13:18 chris_n     g'morning
13:15 owen        jwagner: Just a wild guess, but could it be an overflow problem? Not enough width, and the printer/browser doesn't manage?
13:14 ricardo     jwagner: Sorry. I don't have ANY experience with hold slips / barcodes  :(
13:12 jwagner     Question on hold slips -- has anyone seen situations where the barcode doesn't print on the slip?  I'm getting reports and screen shots where occasionally the barcode just doesn't print.  It does on other slips.  The item has a barcode, and the template file has the barcode field.  Why would it fail to print on some items?
13:12 ricardo     slef: Thanks... I may check that (although I believe it's not rotating those logfiles)
13:12 ricardo     slef: Hi MJ!  :)
13:11 slef        ricardo: do you have logrotate installed?  If so, check /etc/logrotate.d and see if it is rotating your koha logfiles
13:09 ricardo     Yep... These files should be owned by User and Group "koha"
13:08 ricardo     jdavidb: Interesting. Thanks for the info... I think that, in my case, the problem is due to having git set up some directories as "subdirectories" of the "/root" directory... But I'll compare the permissions with one "nomal" Koha setup
13:07 jdavidb     I've had the error file suddenly switch back to the apache default ones a couple of times, without changes to the apache config.  Still haven't figured out why, but restarting apache clears it up at once.
13:06 ricardo     Log files are being owned by User "root" / Group "root" and only with 644 permissions
13:06 ricardo     This DOES seem a permission problems...
13:06 ricardo     Right...
13:02 * ricardo   is restarting Apache ...
13:01 ricardo     Hmm... I wonder if I might have some problems with permissions.... For now, I'll also activate TransferLog and see if the that file (koha-access_log) is created
12:59 ricardo     |Lupin|: Right... That's what I'm reading right now, but it seems OK... My eyes may be deceiving me, though
12:58 |Lupin|     ricardo: e.g. the general error log file rather than the KOha specific one
12:58 |Lupin|     ricardo: you may want to check your apache configuration to see whether they are not logged in another file...
12:56 ricardo     |Lupin|: They are not appearing (since 8-Jun-2009)... At least in my setup... I may be doing something "incredibly" wrong, of course
12:55 |Lupin|     ricardo: don't they ?
12:53 ricardo     Other development question: shouldn't unconditional "warn" statements in Koha code, appear in the "ErrorLog"s ( /var/log/koha-error_log and /var/log/koha-opac-error_log )?
12:50 ricardo     jdavidb: :)
12:50 jdavidb     Sure 'nuf, you're right, ricardo.  :)
12:50 * jdavidb   greps C4.
12:45 ricardo     jdavidb: Thanks for your tip as well... One not... Around 'sysprefname', it should be "(" - parenthesis - and NOT "{" - curly bracket ... At least, in my setup.
12:44 ricardo     |Lupin|: You're welcome  :)
12:43 |Lupin|     ricardo: cool ! thanks a lot for your help !!
12:43 ricardo     http://koha.pastebin.com/d625311bd
12:42 ricardo     |Lupin|: done
12:39 jdavidb     Grepping C4 for "preference" will give you more examples than you could possibly want, I think.
12:39 ricardo     jdavidb: Yeah... It will be something like that  :)
12:39 jdavidb     if (C4::Context->preference{'sysprefname'} eq "teststring") {  do something }   #like that?
12:37 * ricardo   is looking for code Koha samples that use System Preferences
12:37 munin`      greenmang0: The current temperature in Mumbai, India is 30.0�C (5:40 PM IST on October 01, 2009). Conditions: Haze. Humidity: 79%. Dew Point: 26.0�C. Pressure: 29.56 in 1001 hPa (Steady).
12:36 greenmang0  @wunder mumbai
12:36 ricardo     |Lupin|: The name of the preference is "KohaAdminEmailAddress"
12:35 ricardo     |Lupin|: Hmmm... Let me see
12:34 |Lupin|     ricardo: ell... partially. I am more interested in how these e-mails can be sent from within a script
12:33 ricardo     |Lupin|: There's a System Preference with the E-mail Address of the Koha Admin for that installation... Is that what you want?
12:32 ricardo     Back from lunch
12:17 |Lupin|     If so, I'm wondering which function to call to achieve this...
12:17 kf          ok, perhaps its a little more difficult
12:17 |Lupin|     is it a usual thing o report problems by e-mails to the webmaster in Koha ?
12:16 |Lupin|     pls
12:11 kf          kf: have order to avoid customization as far as possible :) but I think css will work, some display:none
12:10 jwagner     kf, I just uploaded the patch file itself to the bug report, if you want to download and try installing.  Not that I know how to do that myself :-(
12:09 kf          jwagner: thx :) good to know its done, can wait and perhaps hide it with css
12:08 nahuel      gmcharlt, the resent is rebased on new head / 3.0.x
12:08 munin`      04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3535 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, jwagner@ptfs.com, ASSIGNED, Add syspref to control display of My Messaging tab in OPAC
12:08 nahuel      :)
12:08 jwagner     I sent a patch (see Bug 3535) on August 17 to hide the messaging tab -- not sure if it's made it into head yet.
12:08 gmcharlt    nahuel: I'm lokoing at your resend, I mean
12:07 kf          second
12:07 jwagner     kf, do you mean the new messaging system for borrower notes?  Or hiding the messaging tab (where borrowers can set notice prefs?)
12:07 nahuel      gmcharlt, I sent it in june
12:07 kf          ok, I thought I saw a patch from you for this, but not sure now :)
12:07 nahuel      ok cool!
12:07 gmcharlt    nahuel: looking at now
12:06 kf          jwagner: jane, just looked at the new sys prefs I got yesterday - will there be an option to hide messaging in opac? I thought I saw one somewhere
12:06 jdavidb     jwagner:  I'm sure.  Dallas is *fast*.  DC traffic seems to be a lot more tightly packed, but not quite so fast.
12:05 jdavidb     (Not like in a Boston taxi, where I laid down in the back seat and told the driver to let me know when we were there.
12:05 jwagner     jdavidb, I felt the same way when you were driving us through the Dallas freeways!
12:04 jwagner     Harrumph.
12:04 |Lupin|     jwagner: let's say it's just me and my tendency to interprete things in a negative way :/
12:03 jdavidb     jwagner is not a bad driver, at all.  Nor even "Aggressive."  I prefer the term, "enthusiastic."  I never felt in danger or anything, but it was amazing how fast things were flying by...
12:03 nahuel      :p
12:03 nahuel      oh damned !
12:03 jwagner     Well, he MIGHT have been referring to that.  I prefer to think otherwise :-)
12:02 gmcharlt    not, just a bot ;)
12:02 nahuel      :)
12:02 nahuel      gmcharlt, did you forget my 3281 patch ?
12:02 hdl_laptop  hi gmcharlt
12:02 nahuel      gmcharlt, yes ! you're here !
12:02 |Lupin|     jwagner: I see. I thought this had to do with the way you drive and found it strange to read such a thing from jdavidb :)
12:02 gmcharlt    nahuel: pong
12:02 nahuel      gmcharlt, ping
12:02 jdavidb     Lupin:  Riding with jwagner is fun.  She gets along well with all the rest of the traffic, and makes it look easy.
12:02 jwagner     |Lupin|, with traffic around here, prayer is sometimes the best option.  Even if you're agnostic.
12:01 jwagner     jdavidb, your consideration for other people's viewpoints is as always breathtaking :-)
12:01 |Lupin|     pray ? :)
12:00 jdavidb     jwagner:  Easy for me; I was a passenger in your vehicle.  Sit down, hold on, and pray.  Easy.  Mighta been hard for *you...*
12:00 nengard     jdavidb - yeah - hubby had his on his arm and he didn't even flinch - but the problem with fluffier parts is that they sag in old age :)
11:59 jwagner     jdavidb, I beg to differ.  There is no such thing as an easy, few-minute drive in this area unless you can remove every other driver from the roads :-(
11:59 jdavidb     nengard. Tats on..erm..fluffier parts..don't hurt so bad, I'm told, but those bony spots and tendons and things on the ankle--no fat to pad it, so it hurts more.
11:59 |Lupin|     jdavidb: ah ok, now things start to become a bit more precise to me :)
11:58 jdavidb     you bet.  We're just a loud yell from the national capital, where our office is.  Easy, few-minutes drive to be in Washington DC.
11:57 |Lupin|     hello Nicole
11:57 |Lupin|     jdavidb: thanks
11:57 |Lupin|     jdavidb:
11:57 |Lupin|     jdavidb: ah, okay
11:57 nengard     and it's a bit sore this am - but other than that great
11:57 jdavidb     Lupin:  Maryland..a state in the northeastern part of the US.
11:57 nengard     hehe
11:57 nengard     stung more than a bit
11:56 jdavidb     g'mornin, nengard.  How's the new tattoo?  Looks cool as heck, but I bet that stung a bit.
11:56 |Lupin|     jdavidb: MD ?
11:56 jdavidb     Nope, we're both in Bethesda, MD, in the US.
11:55 |Lupin|     jdavidb: btw, are you from the United Stats ? I hought you and Jane are from UK... ?
11:54 jdavidb     thanks, Lupin.  Yeah, this one's gonna be rough.
11:52 |Lupin|     jdavidb: I see. YOur day may be a bit difficult... good luck !
11:52 |Lupin|     hey Amit
11:51 Amit        hi lupin, hdl, jwagner
11:48 jwagner     Morning |Lupin|
11:46 jdavidb     I'll let you know later, after I'm awake.  I was up way too late last night!
11:46 |Lupin|     jdavidb: how are you doing ?
11:46 jdavidb     Hi, |Lupin|! :)
11:46 |Lupin|     hi Jane, jdavidb
11:06 |Lupin|     lunch time here, too
11:00 kf          hala: I meant search in the manual for z39.50 :) you dont have to download additonal software or programs. depending on your choices during install it should just work. start in cataloging for z39.50-download of titles. - lunch time now :)
10:51 hala        may you help me in how to download it
10:50 hala        i need to download the  z39.50 client
10:50 hala        can u help me plz
10:42 hala        catch you later
10:41 hala        catch u later
10:41 hala        ok . thxx alot , dnt wry
10:40 kf          hala: sorry hala, meeting now. take a look at the manual, look for z39.50 clients and download.
10:34 hala        then ??
10:31 |Lupin|     hala: yes
10:28 hala        did you mean from koha manual
10:25 ricardo     (which I assume is the "end of line" for a regular expression)
10:24 ricardo     hdl_laptop: Change "^ti$" to "^ti"? Why? All other indexes are ending up in "$"
10:24 hdl_laptop  hala: search Z3950 on the manual
10:23 hdl_laptop  yes
10:23 hdl_laptop  you might want to change that to ^ti
10:23 ricardo     hdl_laptop: Of C4/Search.pm, right?
10:23 hdl_laptop  ^ti$
10:23 hdl_laptop  indexes are searched as exact terms.
10:22 hdl_laptop  lines 1860 - 1866
10:22 hala        i cant find the method to download a Loc catalog ?
10:19 ricardo     hdl_laptop: Thanks  :)
10:19 hdl_laptop  let me look 10 sec
10:19 ricardo     hdl_laptop: I thought that a keyword search searched in every field... Where should I add a "kw" index? Is it in the "NoZebraIndexes" system preference?
10:18 kf          hala: to add more patrons and staff users you have to define patron categories in adminstration and add patrons after that. for staff category you can set permissions
10:18 ricardo     hdl_laptop: Ouch... Thanks for the information (about not setting any NoZebra any longer).
10:18 hdl_laptop  have you tried adding kw index ?
10:17 hdl_laptop  ricardo: as far as BibLibre is concerned, we donot setup any nozebra zny longer
10:16 |Lupin|     ricardo: perhaps something to do with the rebuilding of frameworkcodes or whatever ? there is a script called batchRebuild something one is advised to run when one modifies cataloguing frameworks...
10:14 ricardo     |Lupin|: I think I'll send a message to [Koha-Devel] and see if someone "pops" up there
10:14 ricardo     |Lupin|: The problem remains, though...
10:14 hala        from where can i get a user ID and password and how ?
10:14 ricardo     |Lupin|: Yup. I ran rebuild_nozebra.pl   Thanks :)
10:13 |Lupin|     ricardo: apart from that, I assme you built your index etc. ?
10:13 ricardo     |Lupin|: agreed and understood
10:13 kf          hala: but you need your records to be valid MARC21 / UNIMARC (dpeending on your installation) and items information in 952
10:12 |Lupin|     ricardo: it may not help, but I switched to Zebra mode because it seems this gets much more testing and dev effort...
10:12 kf          hala: you can do copy cataloging via z39.50 and you can load a files with many MARC records via stages marc import or bulk import
10:12 |Lupin|     ricardo: hmm...
10:11 ricardo     UNIMARC and NoZebra installation
10:11 ricardo     Advanced searches by "keyword" not working. Author and Title searches work fine.
10:11 ricardo     |Lupin|: Hi Sébastien :)  I'm having a little problem with a Koha git installation (HEAD of the 3.0.x branch)...
10:10 ricardo     |Lupin|: LOL!
10:10 |Lupin|     (buddhist joke)
10:10 |Lupin|     ricardo: not yet, but working hard to become so... :-)
10:09 ricardo     Hi everyone. Is anyone "awake"? :)
10:08 hala        and how can i delet a file after  import it ?
10:07 hala        loc or britsh library or what ?
10:06 hala        ?
10:06 hala        and from whiv cataloge can i get a record
10:06 |Lupin|     is it possible from within Koha to search a biblio whose x$y field contains z ?
10:06 |Lupin|     pls everybody
10:06 hala        i must to upload 1 by 1 ??
10:05 hala        i have in my library 1171 books
09:57 kf          hala: http://koha.org/documentation/manual/3.2/tools/manage-staged-marc-records
09:56 kf          hala: http://koha.org/documentation/manual/3.2/tools/stage-marc-records-for-import
09:56 kf          hala: yes
09:42 hala        Manage staged MARC records.
09:42 hala        sry
09:42 hala        did you mean V
09:41 hala        am sry if am bothering you ;)
09:40 hala        where can i find it -  link to manage staged imports -
09:39 kf          hala: after uploading there should be a link to manage staged imports, there you can add your file to the catalog and finish import
09:38 |Lupin|     hallo kf
09:38 hala        chose uploID FILE BUT WHEN FINSH UPLODING THERE'S NO RECORD OR ANY ITEM
09:37 hala        after tools/stage marc import ?
09:29 kf          guten Tag |Lupin|
09:21 |Lupin|     hdl_laptop: ok, thanks
09:20 |Lupin|     hdl_laptop: for us the notion of "available" item is a bit irrelevant, because every iem is alwys available...
09:20 hdl_laptop  (in theory)
09:19 hdl_laptop  |Lupin|: Yes
09:19 hdl_laptop  SELECT count(*) from items where biblionumber=? and items.onloan IS NOT NULL and items.notforloan=0 and items.wthdrawn=0 and items.itemlost=0 ?
09:19 |Lupin|     hdl_laptop: is this  equivalent to counting the number of occurences of the 995 unimarc field ?
09:18 hdl_laptop  or
09:18 hdl_laptop  SELECT count(*) from items where biblionumber=?
09:18 hdl_laptop  SELECT count(*) from items where biblio=?
09:17 hdl_laptop  what to you mean number of "available" items
09:17 |Lupin|     hdl_laptop: I'm wondering how to determine the number of available items for a biblionumer from within a Perl script... couldn't find a function that returns that. Is there one ?
09:07 hdl_laptop  or bulkmarcimport on command line
09:07 hdl_laptop  hala: tools/stage marc import
09:05 hala        ??
09:05 hala        upload record to koha
09:05 hala        how we import koha
09:04 hala        please
09:04 hala        Q :pleasre
09:04 hala        hi
08:47 |Lupin|     good morning everybody
07:53 nahuel      another earthquake :(
07:53 nahuel      chris, really bad news this morning
07:53 nahuel      hi all
07:28 nicomo      hi kf
07:28 kf          hi hdl, nicomo and RMD
07:15 Rmd         hi
07:02 nicomo      hi
07:02 hdl_laptop  hi
05:40 kf          morning
05:15 brendan     heya Amit
03:36 pianohacker good night, #koha
03:34 munin`      Amit: The current temperature in Dehradun, India is 26.0�C (8:30 AM IST on October 01, 2009). Conditions: Mist. Humidity: 74%. Dew Point: 22.0�C. Pressure: 29.80 in 1009 hPa.
03:34 Amit        @wunder Dehradun, India
03:33 munin`      Amit: The current temperature in New Delhi, India is 29.0�C (8:00 AM IST on October 01, 2009). Conditions: Mist. Humidity: 79%. Dew Point: 25.0�C. Pressure: 29.80 in 1009 hPa (Rising).
03:33 Amit        @wunder New Delhi
03:22 pianohacker wow, you're up early
03:22 munin`      pianohacker: The current temperature in Bangalore, India is 20.0�C (5:30 AM IST on October 01, 2009). Conditions: Light Drizzle. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: 19.0�C.
03:22 pianohacker @wunder bangalore, india
03:21 munin`      Amit: downloading the Perl source
03:21 Amit        @wounder Bangalore, India
03:21 Amit        hi pianohacker
03:20 pianohacker hi amit
03:11 Amit        good morning #koha
03:11 Amit        hi chris, richard
02:30 pianohacker cya
02:30 brendan     cya in a bit #koha
01:32 pianohacker brb
01:32 pianohacker (it's definitely preferable to history)
01:31 pianohacker and now I've been called away to do some housework
01:31 brendan     nice -- always loved Math
01:31 pianohacker school :) calculus study
01:31 brendan     how about you?
01:30 brendan     so I had to correct that...
01:30 brendan     just had a load of items import to the wrong branch :)
01:30 brendan     some data
01:29 pianohacker what are you working on?
01:29 brendan     I'd say fun :)
01:29 pianohacker heh
01:29 brendan     well I'm still in the office -- so I guess that's good or bad
01:24 pianohacker how's work treating you?
01:23 pianohacker i'm all right. hand's still broken, but is healing slowly
01:22 brendan     how's everything with you -- hand getting better ?
01:22 brendan     ah hanging in there
01:21 pianohacker how are you?
01:21 pianohacker hi brendan
01:21 brendan     heya pianohacker
01:21 pianohacker hi, #koha