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rich-away is now known as richard |
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* chris_n2 |
heads off to the strawberry patch ;-) |
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brendan |
have fun :) |
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* chris_n2 |
begins to remember why he gave up on compiling XML::LibXSLT on Win32 :-P |
| 01:46 |
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chris_n2 |
and wonders why he is even attempting it again... |
| 01:50 |
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chris |
heh |
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chris |
glutton for punishment |
| 01:53 |
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chris |
and that was the last liblimer still on #koha |
| 01:57 |
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richard |
poor chap, prolly feels a bit like he shouldn't be raising his head above the parapet |
| 01:57 |
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chris |
yup |
| 02:04 |
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brendan |
@seen liblime |
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munin` |
brendan: I have not seen liblime. |
| 03:11 |
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chris_n2 |
it looks like we are very close to having XML::LibXSLT in Strawberry Perl... |
| 03:11 |
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chris |
oh cool |
| 03:11 |
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chris_n2 |
http://rt.cpan.org/Ticket/Disp[…]=48247#txn-669928 |
| 03:11 |
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chris_n2 |
maybe end of October |
| 03:12 |
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chris_n2 |
which should remove the last impediment to a native Win32 install of Koha |
| 03:12 |
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chris |
cool |
| 03:12 |
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chris_n2 |
and maybe even an msi type install |
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chris_n2 |
g'night |
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kf |
good morning :) |
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Ropuch |
Morning kf [; |
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kf |
morning Ropuch |
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CGI482 |
hi there |
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Ropuch |
ello |
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CGI482 |
any one help me for catalog ? |
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nicomo |
morning |
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kf |
morning nicomo |
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nicomo |
morning kf |
| 06:25 |
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nicomo |
how's the weather on the eve of this week-end in Konstanz? |
| 06:26 |
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kf |
can someone help me with jquery? I want to hide the messaging tab in opac, its 7th li element in #menu |
| 06:26 |
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kf |
its getting colder in the morning now, but dry and sunny during the day :) |
| 06:26 |
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kf |
but will propably spent my weekend on training materials for monday and tuesday |
| 06:27 |
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kf |
first koha training in our project library :) |
| 06:31 |
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nicomo |
kf: very cool, when are they scehduled to go live? |
| 06:33 |
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kf |
the party is on 12th |
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nicomo |
will they be the 1st in Germany? |
| 06:34 |
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kf |
Im not sure |
| 06:34 |
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kf |
I think its safe to say the first academic |
| 06:34 |
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kf |
there is a pharmacy using koha for health books I know of and I dont know what happened to the special library listed in the wiki |
| 06:47 |
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Ropuch |
Hm |
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Ropuch |
kf: you're working for University of Konstanz? |
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nahuel |
hi all |
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kf |
Ropuch: no, for BSZ |
| 07:19 |
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kf |
kf: www2.bsz-bw.de |
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kf |
kf = Ropuch ;) |
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Ropuch |
kf: I've just started work at Willy-Brandt-Zentrum f�r Deutschland- und Europastudien |
| 07:30 |
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CGI041 |
I have a query on importing data from Mandarin to KOHA |
| 07:40 |
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kf |
Ropuch: cool! |
| 07:50 |
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CGI041 |
ANybody with experience here |
| 07:50 |
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CGI041 |
Migrating from Mandarin LMS to KOHA? |
| 07:53 |
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kf |
CGI041 - perhaps better write to the mailing lists to find someone - there are not so many people here and nz and usa are sleeping |
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* chris |
is actually still at work :( |
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paul_p |
yes, but CGI041 has left ;-) |
| 08:08 |
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paul_p |
hello chris. |
| 08:08 |
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Ropuch |
Hello paul_p, chris |
| 08:08 |
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paul_p |
(I don't say good evening, because it seems not good for you...) |
| 08:08 |
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chris |
nope, rss DDOS |
| 08:09 |
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chris |
paul_p: can you see www.stuff.co.nz? |
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paul_p |
chris:nope |
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paul_p |
oh... yes, but VERY slow |
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chris |
ta |
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paul_p |
I have the title now |
| 08:10 |
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paul_p |
(but nothing else |
| 08:11 |
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chris |
yeah, something is maxing out our international bandwidth |
| 08:11 |
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kf |
hi chris |
| 08:13 |
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paul_p |
chris: ok, I see the text, but not the images yet :( |
| 08:14 |
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chris |
ta |
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chris |
hopefully we can get that fixed soon |
| 08:28 |
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kf |
chris: good luck! hope you can solve it soon |
| 08:28 |
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chris |
its hard to solve as its multiple (thousands and thousands) of ips all requesting the same files |
| 08:28 |
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chris |
and using up all the bandwidth |
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paul_p |
chris: it's a DoS ? |
| 08:38 |
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chris |
not intentional i dont think |
| 08:38 |
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chris |
but thats the effect |
| 08:39 |
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chris |
i think its a toolbar, that is aggressive |
| 08:39 |
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chris |
is www.stuff.co.nz any more responsive now? |
| 08:40 |
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paul_p |
chris++ ! |
| 08:40 |
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paul_p |
yes, it's fast now |
| 08:40 |
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chris |
kf: can you check too please? |
| 08:41 |
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chris |
(and anyone else not in nz) |
| 08:42 |
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chris |
it was only using up our international bandwidth |
| 08:46 |
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magnusenger |
chris: reasonably fast from up here! |
| 08:46 |
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chris |
thanks magnusenger :) |
| 08:49 |
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chris |
traffic is down to 22Mbit/sec overseas traffic .. from 40 (which is the whole of the overseas pipe) |
| 08:49 |
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kf |
chris: still a bit slow but loading completely now |
| 08:49 |
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chris |
cool |
| 08:49 |
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kf |
chris: dont know how fast it should be |
| 08:49 |
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paul_p |
kf: nz is always a little bit slow from here! |
| 08:50 |
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kf |
paul_p: ok, should be ok then :) |
| 08:52 |
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chris |
i think thats fixed enough so i can go home :) |
| 08:52 |
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chris |
10pm ... too late on a friday to be at work ;) |
| 08:52 |
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Ropuch |
;> |
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nahuel |
hi chris ! |
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Crusoe |
hi all! |
| 11:06 |
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Ropuch |
Hi Crusoe |
| 11:06 |
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Crusoe |
In Russia the university libraries have very specific task: they must provide the students with the learning aids and textbooks |
| 11:07 |
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Crusoe |
so we have to know, how many students per book do we have |
| 11:07 |
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Crusoe |
is there anything like this anywhere in the Earth? |
| 11:08 |
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Crusoe |
I'm just curious how to name my report generator |
| 11:09 |
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Ropuch |
Don't know, actually |
| 11:10 |
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Crusoe |
in russian this sounds like 'literature provision' |
| 11:11 |
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Crusoe |
and i don't like this translation |
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Crusoe |
git status |
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Ropuch |
Crusoe: how it sounds in original? |
| 11:12 |
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Crusoe |
Cardbox of the provision with the literature - something like that |
| 11:13 |
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Ropuch |
I mean in russian |
| 11:13 |
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Crusoe |
kartoteka knigoobespechennosti |
| 11:15 |
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Ropuch |
I'll try to ask someone to translate this, wait |
| 11:24 |
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Ropuch |
Books providing reserve? |
| 11:25 |
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Crusoe |
sounds much better |
| 11:25 |
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Ropuch |
(I don't have any russian speaker around |
| 11:25 |
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Ropuch |
I just named it in polsih and tried to translate to english ;> |
| 11:26 |
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Ropuch |
s/posih/polish |
| 11:26 |
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Crusoe |
nice trick %-)) |
| 11:26 |
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Ropuch |
hehe |
| 11:26 |
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Crusoe |
dzenkuju pan! |
| 11:26 |
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Ropuch |
Rezerwa zabepieczenia ksi�zkowego/czytelniczego |
| 11:27 |
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Ropuch |
:) |
| 11:27 |
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Ropuch |
What library are you working for? |
| 11:27 |
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Crusoe |
the library of the ivanovo state university of chemistry and technology |
| 11:28 |
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Ropuch |
I'm starting a page about koha in polish, but I'd like to have list of libraries using in close aproximity of Poland |
| 11:29 |
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Crusoe |
no we don't use Koha yet |
| 11:29 |
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Ropuch |
But you plan to? |
| 11:30 |
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Crusoe |
I'm not sure |
| 11:30 |
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Crusoe |
actually I'm thinking of rolling my own ILS |
| 11:30 |
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Crusoe |
which is not a monolith like Koha but rather an integrating system |
| 11:30 |
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Ropuch |
I envy people with so much free time ;-) |
| 11:30 |
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Crusoe |
a kind of |
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Ropuch |
Hello jdavidb |
| 11:31 |
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jdavidb |
Hello, Ropuch. :) |
| 11:31 |
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Crusoe |
hi |
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Ropuch |
Crusoe: you can try to ask native english speakers for translation of kartoteka knigoobespechennosti, maybe they will figure something better |
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Ropuch |
Ok, back to work |
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* jdavidb |
is a native-English speaker, but doesn't speak much of anything else. |
| 11:34 |
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Ropuch |
jdavidb: http://pastebin.com/m538e262 |
| 11:35 |
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Ropuch |
I've came up with Books providing reserve, but I'm not sure it means what i think it means ;> |
| 11:35 |
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jdavidb |
No, "Reserve" in en_US libraries means something totally different. |
| 11:36 |
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Ropuch |
provision then? |
| 11:36 |
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jdavidb |
If it's applied to students, this concept would be "Texbook management" or simply, "Students per textbook report", if that's what it's telling you. |
| 11:37 |
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Ropuch |
Crusoe: here you are :) |
| 11:38 |
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jdavidb |
If the report is actually telling you a number of students per textbook available, then I would name it that; that would be consistent enough across all the en_ variants for people to know what it's about. |
| 11:38 |
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Ropuch |
jdavidb: I know it's not #learn-basic-english channel, but is "book providing provision" any close to what it's supposed to mean? |
| 11:39 |
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Crusoe |
actually there are different requests: one may wander how many students per book there is for a given discipline, or a set of disciplines taught by some department |
| 11:39 |
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Crusoe |
so the application requires a more general name |
| 11:40 |
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Crusoe |
s/wander/wonder/ |
| 11:40 |
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jdavidb |
Pretty close, yeah. Generally, when it's learning materials meant for students to work directly out of, it's "textbooks." You normally wouldn't see "providing provision" as an English construct. |
| 11:41 |
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Crusoe |
textbooks? provision then ? |
| 11:41 |
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jdavidb |
Crusoe: The first report could be simply "Students per book report", but the second...is this the kind of thing where you have fifty copies of the same book, and everyone in a class has one, or where you have a bunch of different books? |
| 11:41 |
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jdavidb |
"Textbook provision" would be a good descriptor, Crusoe, I think. |
| 11:42 |
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Crusoe |
each discipline is associated with main literature list and optional literature list |
| 11:42 |
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Crusoe |
so there are many books per discipline and the report contains that many numbers |
| 11:42 |
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jdavidb |
I did a report like that, on another system, where certain call numbers were assigned to a university department, and we could take counts and average ages of the collection for that department. Sound similar? |
| 11:43 |
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Crusoe |
alike |
| 11:43 |
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jdavidb |
A user didn't need to know all the call number ranges, they just entered "Art department", and got everything that we'd decided fit there. |
| 11:44 |
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jdavidb |
Our report was used so that the department could figure out what they needed to buy more of, so we called it the "Collection Development Report." You could also call something like that a "Departmental collection analysis." |
| 11:45 |
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Crusoe |
analysis sounds very good! |
| 11:46 |
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jdavidb |
Excellent! Anything else I can help with on that? |
| 11:46 |
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Crusoe |
thank you |
| 11:47 |
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jdavidb |
Glad I could help, Crusoe. Never thought I'd get to help with translation! :) |
| 11:48 |
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Ropuch |
Don't forget english tips ;> |
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jdavidb |
en_US and en_UK are a bit different, and I speak the US version, southern style, but so far I've not had any trouble being understood. |
| 11:53 |
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Ropuch |
My english is result of reading unix man, some rpg handbooks and watching Seasame Street, so my grammar is often non-existen |
| 11:54 |
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jdavidb |
Sesame Street is not the worst place to learn basic English, Ropuch. Lots of people my age (I'm 41) learned to read and speak English with the help of Sesame Street. |
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Ropuch |
I strobgly agree, I'm 30 and started just like that |
| 11:55 |
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Ropuch |
s/strobgly/strongly |
| 11:55 |
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paul_p |
( everybody says hello fo francharb, the new BibLibrian, started yesterday, he's a geeky librarian ) |
| 11:56 |
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Ropuch |
Hello francharb [; |
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jdavidb |
Hello, francharb! Welcome! |
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jdavidb |
<== J. David Bavousett, PTFS in Bethesda, Maryland, USA. |
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jwagner |
Bonjour francharb! |
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magnusenger |
God dag francharb! Velkommen! |
| 12:04 |
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magnusenger |
geeky librarians++ |
| 12:05 |
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paul_p |
francharb => francois charbonnier |
| 12:06 |
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Crusoe |
CY All! |
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chris_n |
g'morning |
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Ropuch |
Morning, chris_n |
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* chris_n |
sees chris found the problem w/his data pipe |
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schuster |
Hey all. |
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jdavidb |
Howdy, schuster. :) |
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brendan |
morning #koha |
| 12:50 |
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jwagner |
Morning, all |
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chris_n |
hi schuster, brendan, et al |
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kf |
morning usa :) |
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jdavidb |
Good afternoon, kf! :) |
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chris_n |
howdy kf |
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chris_n |
git stash++ |
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jwagner |
Guten tag, kf |
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kf |
Guten morgen jwagner ;) |
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Ricardo |
Hi all :) |
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Colin |
Hi folks |
| 13:03 |
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jwagner |
Colin, I _like_ the idea of "large man with big stick visits patron" as a fine option! |
| 13:05 |
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Colin |
It's simple to implement too!! |
| 13:06 |
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chris_n |
hehe |
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jwagner |
But is there a Perl module for it? |
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Colin |
I suspect the London perl mongers would be only too eager to whip one up |
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* chris_n |
thought about a GPS tag for use in books |
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chris_n |
then the large man could drive right to where the book is |
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brendan |
just get conan the librarian |
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schuster |
Question - in the opac - when an item is put in transfer the opac indicates "In transit from Forman Elementary, to Dooley Elementary, since 05/08/2009" - is that a table or where is this information stored? |
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schuster |
I'm also curious about how many items I have in this situation - "transfer/transit" any sql suggestions? |
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Colin |
there's the table branchtransfers see C4::Items,pm ModItemTransfer |
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schuster |
Thanks! overlooked that table I was looking for transfers! not in the b's. |
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Colin |
select count(*) from branchtransfers where datearrived is NULL should get number in transit |
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Ricardo |
Question: In Bugzilla, how should I refer to the HEAD of a different branch from MASTER? Should I pick "HEAD" and in the comment textarea explain that it applies to other branch (3.0.x) in this case? |
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slef |
hi all |
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Ricardo |
Hi MJ! :) |
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slef |
I think I've botched a template update. Do we have a syntax checker? |
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slef |
found it - LOOP and IF nesting problem |
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Ricardo |
slef: Good. I'm afraid that I couldn't help you there, anyway :( |
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Ricardo |
hdl_laptop: Henri, are you there? I just corrected the bug I talked here yesterday :) |
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Ricardo |
Bug 3689 |
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munin` |
Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3689 major, PATCH-Sent, ---, ricmarques spamcop.net, ASSIGNED, Searching for a single keyword returns no results, although they exist |
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hdl_laptop |
Ricardo: congrats where the patch ? |
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Ricardo |
hdl_laptop: http://lists.koha.org/pipermai[…]tober/004690.html |
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gmcharlt |
slef: there's is a way to check syntax, actually |
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gmcharlt |
prove xt/author/valid-templates.t |
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gmcharlt |
that will catch unclosed tmpl_if and tmpl_loops and nesting problems |
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slef |
gmcharlt: I'll add it to http://wiki.koha.org/doku.php?[…]:codingguidelines some time |
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slef |
any way to run it on one file? |
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hdl_laptop |
Ricardo: imho, you could have disabled auto_truncation on your install |
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jwagner |
@seen owen |
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munin` |
jwagner: owen was last seen in #koha 18 hours, 27 minutes, and 4 seconds ago: <owen> chris: I'd be happy to receive anniversary congratulations on April 10th *and* Oct. 4th :) |
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gmcharlt |
slef: xt/author/test_template.pl file_name path_to_approprate_template_incudes_dir |
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hdl_laptop |
gmcharlt: seems that prepare_cached when using from command line and not CGI requires to be cautious |
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slef |
gmcharlt: tyvm |
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hdl_laptop: how so? |
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hdl_laptop |
prepare_cached(SELECT COUNT(*) FROM zebraqueue |
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hdl_laptop |
WHERE server = ? |
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hdl_laptop |
AND biblio_auth_number = ? |
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hdl_laptop |
AND operation = ? |
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hdl_laptop |
AND done = 0) statement handle DBI::st=HASH(0xa0824d0) still Active at /home/koha/gitosis-admin/am123//C4/Biblio.pm line 2417 |
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hdl_laptop |
I have those errors. |
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gmcharlt |
hmm - that may be a case where we *do* want to add a $sth->finish after we've fetched from the statement handle |
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gmcharlt |
does that make a difference? |
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Ricardo |
hdl_laptop: Well, I think that I didn't change the "auto truncation" value from the default one. |
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hdl_laptop |
gmcharlt: this is what I thought too. |
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hdl_laptop |
But have not tested |
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hdl_laptop |
gmcharlt: yep that DOES make a difference |
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gmcharlt |
hmm |
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gmcharlt |
a bit odd though - select count(*) will always return exactly one row |
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gmcharlt |
so the first fetch ought to be enogh to clear the statement handle |
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gmcharlt |
unless DBI needs you to attempt (and fail) to fetch subsequent rows in order to mark the sth finished |
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gmcharlt |
are there any paths by which the $sth can get prepared and executed but not fetched from? |
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hdl_laptop |
I don't know. |
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hdl_laptop |
have reviewed all the code used by bulkmarcimport to hunt prepare_cached |
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Colin |
hdl_laptop: does setting the if_active flag alter the behaviour? |
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hdl_laptop |
Colin: I guess that setting that to 1 would do the job. |
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hdl_laptop |
Should we ? |
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Colin |
It might be worth a try. (mind you I've had some nasty experiences with prepare_cached and mysql before ) |
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rhcl |
Is there a Koha tag for this? http://www.ala.org/ala/alonlin[…]bedbugs093009.cfm |
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gmcharlt |
rhcl: one could make a special damaged authorized value for that |
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shudders. |
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slef |
anyone know from memory what it means when C4::Members::ModMember returns 0E0? |
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slef |
"no rows to be affected" |
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slef |
ARGH! Stupid error |
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slef |
borrowernumber was getting replaced by cardnumber at some point |
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slef |
which is sometimes the same on this database |
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slef |
ho hum |
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hdl_laptop |
gmcharlt: abouut what I said before I think it is because I read about the bad usage of finish and wanted to remove them all from C4:::Biblio. |
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hdl_laptop |
And I did on a wip branch. |
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gmcharlt |
ok |
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hdl_laptop |
and used that branch to import. |
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gmcharlt |
*most* uses of $sth->finish were not necessary |
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gmcharlt |
but I guess all |
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gmcharlt |
*not all |
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hdl_laptop |
prepare_cached(....,{},1) can also does the job |
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hdl_laptop |
I mean get prepare_cached OK |
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nengard |
just had my first official work related phone call for my new job :) hehe |
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nengard: the novelty will wane |
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nengard |
slef I know!! :) |
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Hello all. I've been testing the import of a periodical bib with 1900+ issues. Each issue has an item record attached. Zebra chokes on this. I did some experimenting and found that I can import the record as long as it has 1238 items or fewer. The import file is 46 KB. Is there a limit to the size of an individual MARC record that is set somewhere in the zebra config? If so, is there... |
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...some reason I shouldn't increase this limit? |
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slef |
ccurry: I'm not aware of a limit but it would explain a similar thing I've had at one site and not examined yet, so I'd love to know what you find. |
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slef |
zebrasrv is still a bit of a black box to me |
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slef: I'll let you know when it becomes demystified, but hopefully somebody here has an idea. |
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jwagner |
Question for people -- how can library staff load MARC authority records into Koha? I tested, and the Stage/Manage records for import under Tools does't recognize that these are authorities -- tried it and Koha thought they were bib records. |
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ccurry |
http://pastebin.com/d76b1f2d Here's the error message from my zebra index (perl /usr/share/koha/bin/migration_tools/rebuild_zebra.pl -b -w -r -v) |
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jwagner |
I don't see any link from within the staff client to an authority load script like bulkauthimport.pl |
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schuster |
slef and ccurry - there is a limit to the size of a marc record |
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ccurry |
schuster: do you know what it is and if it can be increased? |
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schuster |
I can't remember what it is but that may be your problem is the character count gets off and you can't import it. |
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schuster |
It is a MARC limitation not a system limitation. |
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ccurry |
hmmmm... |
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schuster |
Let me check with someone who would know off the top of their head - our migration specialist! |
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ccurry |
any idea how to import a record with so many items? |
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ccurry |
schuster: Great! Thanks! |
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schuster |
I had to break several records when we migrated to limit the number of characters so they would import and also to SEARCH in Koha. From my understanding 3.2 will remove the items from the marc so this won't be a problem in the future. |
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schuster |
99,999 - characters on a marc |
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schuster |
So every subfield you add creates more characters. So the number of items varies based on the amount of data in the MARC and item records attached to it. |
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ccurry |
schuster: what do you mean by: "3.2 will remove the items from the marc so this won't be a problem in the future" How can you import items without adding 952 fields to a record? |
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CGI049 |
I am succesflly intalling kOha , and tried to test it using sample records using cataloging menu, but the fields in add new biblo page are not compateble with my library system so how can i customize the fileds to enter new record for example a new book to the cataloging record |
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ccurry |
schuster: this particular record is 61,125 characters. So it should be a valid MARC record. Still doesn't index in zebra. argh. |
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CGI049 |
i dont understan your response |
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ccurry |
CGI049: if you're referring to my last post, you didn't understand it because it wasn't a response to your question. I was writing to schuster. |
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CGI049 |
ok thank you, I need a detailed answer for my question, my time is up now but i will not close my pc so i will get your response next time |
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schuster |
ccurry - sorry - what I meant was that you will be able to load lost of records match and you won't have a limitation on the MARC record - currently if you load a record with more than 99,999 characters it won't even index in Koha as it keeps all the 952's accurate in Koha. |
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schuster |
It will be taking the 952 from my understanding out of the equation with 3.2 so you can have a bib with more than 250 items on it and it will still search etc. |
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schuster |
Currently I have to watch how many items we add to a bib otherwise we will search and get 1 response when we should see 2 titles. |
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schuster |
ccurry - don't forget to wait the 10 minutes or so for the zebra indexer to catch up to you when loading records |
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schuster |
jwagner - there is no authority loader interface for the staff side just the command line loader. |
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jwagner |
schuster, that's what I figured. I was just hoping I'd overlooked something really obvious :-( |
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kf |
time to go home - bye #koha :) |
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ccurry |
schuster: thanks for the info. any idea when 3.2 is due? |
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Ricardo |
CGI049: When you come back, I suggest that you read the Koha 3.0 Manual - http://koha.org/documentation/manual/3.0 |
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Ricardo |
CGI049: For your particular question, the following topic may be particularly relevant - http://koha.org/documentation/[…]raphic-frameworks |
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chris_n |
ccurry: alpha release should happen in the near future |
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chris_n |
ccurry: "target" release date for stable is end of November |
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ccurry |
sweet. thanks. |
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chris_n |
of course all of the typical caveats and disclaimers apply ;-) |
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wizzyrea |
chris_n: not to mention who you ask about it; Waldo would say they're already using it |
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* wizzyrea |
fumes |
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chris_n |
waldo-- |
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wizzyrea |
you know, it was "their" release, after all |
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wizzyrea |
<eyeroll> |
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Ricardo |
I have to leave now. Take care! :) |
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schuster: can MARC length limit be dodged by using XML? |
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schuster |
Probably - but you can't load XML into Koha. |
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schuster |
slef - you could xml it out and use something like MARCEdit to break it and rebuild it into a marc record. |
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gmcharlt |
slef: schuster: actually, yes you can load MARCXML directly into Koha, and yes, it would be a way of going over the limit - there are a couple bugs still if you do that, but it is *workable* |
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cait_laptop |
evening :) |
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nengard |
afternoon cait_laptop |
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nengard |
:) |
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jdavidb |
Hi, cait_laptop :) |
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cait_laptop |
nengard: saw the tattoo fotos - really nice! the d20 is a great idea |
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nengard |
that's my geeky hubby for you :) |
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cait_laptop |
I know, your book is nice too, but I spent a lot of time with d&d when I was younger |
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nengard |
hubby still plays - he has a group that comes over once a month and he write about it on his blog as well www.gamecrafters.net |
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cait_laptop |
:) |
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nengard |
yeah - i'm an open source geek and he's a gamer geek - perfect geeky combo |
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cait_laptop |
where did you find him? (perhaps interested in one for myself ;) ) |
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cait_laptop |
got an email today, will give another talk on koha in april, perhaps this will attract some geeks :) |
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cait_laptop |
nengard: I will do my first koha training next week - something I shouldn't do or shouldn't miss? |
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nengard |
hehe - found him in college |
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nengard |
as for training |
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nengard |
let the librarians tell you how they work and then base your training on that - no matter how well we know koha- we can't know how those in the library use it without listening to them |
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cait_laptop |
good advice :) they had no library system before, so some workflows will change. I hope for the better. |
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nengard |
awesome |
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FYI I've posted more videos today on the KohaCon09 website. http://wiki.koha.org/doku.php?[…]conferenceprogram I hope to finish getting these loaded next week. |
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cait_laptop |
good night :) |
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chris |
morning |
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brendan |
good morning chir |
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chris |
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brendan |
think most of the east coasters are getting ready to head to happy hour :) |
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chris |
:) |
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brendan |
cya later #koha everyone enjoy the weekend |
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