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gmcharlt |
chris: does memcached support having the client dictate how much memory to use for a namespace? |
| 00:01 |
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chris |
nope |
| 00:01 |
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chris |
not that im aware of anyway |
| 00:02 |
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gmcharlt |
ok, curious |
| 00:02 |
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chris |
the way to do that would be to run a couple of memcacheds |
| 00:02 |
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chris |
on different ports |
| 00:02 |
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gmcharlt |
note, by the way, that a Proper Patch (tm) will at least give a hint about how to set up memcached |
| 00:02 |
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chris |
:-) |
| 00:02 |
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chris |
yep |
| 00:02 |
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chris |
sudo apt-get install memcached |
| 00:02 |
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chris |
:) |
| 00:02 |
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chris |
i promise to do more than that |
| 00:02 |
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gmcharlt |
C:> sudo apt-get install memcached |
| 00:02 |
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gmcharlt |
oops |
| 00:03 |
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gmcharlt |
;) |
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| 00:31 |
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chris_n2 |
evening |
| 00:31 |
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gmcharlt |
hi chris_n2 |
| 00:31 |
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chris |
hi chris_n2 |
| 00:57 |
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gmcharlt |
chris: couple thoughts occur - making Memoize::M optional might be nice - i.e., fail gracefully if it's not installed |
| 00:57 |
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gmcharlt |
chris: second, updatedb ought to check for unmet perl deps |
| 00:58 |
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chris |
can do, so bump the version |
| 00:58 |
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chris |
and just check perl deps, instead of doing any db updates |
| 00:58 |
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chris |
? |
| 01:13 |
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chris |
i may have to do an unsung heroes for andrew moore for the dbrevs page |
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chris |
ohhh the first patch from VOKAL |
| 03:18 |
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Amit |
hi chris, pie |
| 03:18 |
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Amit |
good morning #koha |
| 03:18 |
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chris |
hi Amit |
| 03:42 |
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pianohacker |
Hello, chris, pie, Amit |
| 03:42 |
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chris |
hiya pianohacker |
| 03:42 |
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pianohacker |
Hey |
| 03:48 |
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pianohacker |
Hmm, just noticed your copyright header on the new Memcached stuff (which is nice, by the way). What's your reasoning behind that? |
| 03:49 |
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chris |
oh it didnt have the koha dev team in there |
| 03:49 |
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chris |
that's my new thing |
| 03:50 |
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pianohacker |
Hmm, okay. Why? |
| 03:52 |
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chris |
The copyright notice should include the year in which you finished preparing the release (so if you finished it in 1998 but didn't post it until 1999, use 1998). You should add the proper year for each release; for example, “Copyright 1998, 1999 Terry Jones†if some versions were finished in 1998 and some were finished in 1999. If several people helped write the code, use all their names. |
| 03:52 |
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chris |
http://www.fsf.org/licensing/l[…]es/gpl-howto.html |
| 03:53 |
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chris |
For software with several releases over multiple years, it is best to spell out each year, in full, without using ranges or abbreviations, as in the example above. |
| 03:54 |
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chris |
one of the debian developers was commenting on how we are missing copyright statements, or have incomplete ones |
| 03:54 |
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chris |
so figure, 1 file at a time |
| 03:54 |
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chris |
:) |
| 03:54 |
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pianohacker |
Hmm. It seems like that would require, for something like, say, C4::Biblio, Copyright (c) 2000, 2001, 2002, 2003, ..., 2009 Chris Cormack, Joshua Ferraro, ad infinitum |
| 03:55 |
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pianohacker |
That seems... somewhat difficult |
| 03:55 |
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chris |
thats where the Koha Dev team comes in |
| 03:55 |
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chris |
i should just gone 2009 Koha Dev Team |
| 03:55 |
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pianohacker |
Okay. |
| 03:56 |
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pianohacker |
Perhaps adding a note that the Koha Dev Team means those listed in about.pl ? |
| 03:56 |
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pianohacker |
Not necessarily in every file |
| 03:56 |
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chris |
good idea |
| 03:56 |
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chris |
speaking of about.pl |
| 03:56 |
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chris |
its missing a copyright statement |
| 03:56 |
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pianohacker |
Hahaha. Well then, appropriate place to add them |
| 03:57 |
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pianohacker |
Can you perltidy everything while you're at it? ;) |
| 03:57 |
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chris |
:) |
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pianohacker |
Good night |
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| 05:46 |
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nathan1021 |
hi |
| 05:46 |
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nathan1021 |
SOS |
| 05:46 |
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nathan1021 |
i have trouble running koha-zebraqueue-daemon |
| 05:48 |
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nathan1021 |
i tried to start koha-zebraqueue-daemon by service koha-zebraqueue-daemon start |
| 05:48 |
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nathan1021 |
it says line 28: daemon command not found |
| 05:48 |
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nathan1021 |
but i have just installed daemon program |
| 05:50 |
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nathan1021 |
i hope somebody can help |
| 05:50 |
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Elven_Thief |
what distro are you using? |
| 05:50 |
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nathan1021 |
fedora core 10 |
| 05:50 |
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Elven_Thief |
hrm. can you run daemon from a command line? |
| 05:51 |
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Elven_Thief |
it could be that the environment settings don't have the program in their path |
| 05:51 |
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nathan1021 |
yes.. when i type daemon in command line, available options appear |
| 05:52 |
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Elven_Thief |
the zebra daemon runs as the user 'koha'. can that user access it? |
| 05:54 |
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Elven_Thief |
on a side note, is there an easy way to get the list of 'matching' records when doing marc imports in the tools area? |
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| 06:17 |
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kf |
good morning #koha |
| 06:24 |
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nathan1021 |
may i ask what's the best distro to install koha |
| 06:25 |
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nathan1021 |
and version |
| 06:25 |
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kf |
there was a discussion on the mailing list some time ago |
| 06:25 |
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nathan1021 |
can you point me to the link |
| 06:25 |
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kf |
I think there is not the best and it was advised you use something you know |
| 06:25 |
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kf |
mom I will search for it |
| 06:26 |
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nathan1021 |
im new in koha, so i dont know whats the preferred distro |
| 06:26 |
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nathan1021 |
i have been trying all this time in fedora core 10 |
| 06:26 |
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nathan1021 |
got it working but with no zebra |
| 06:27 |
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nathan1021 |
as im having trouble with the daemon |
| 06:27 |
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kf |
http://www.nabble.com/Linux-di[…]24.html#a20778209 |
| 06:27 |
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nathan1021 |
thanks kf |
| 06:28 |
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kf |
there were many more answers to the thread, still searching :) |
| 06:28 |
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Elven_Thief |
kf, i asked this already, but you may know.... is there a way of listing what records "matched" when doing marc imports? |
| 06:29 |
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kf |
I think you get a list of matched records when using staged import in koha intranet |
| 06:30 |
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Elven_Thief |
i thought it just said 'x matched records', but i'll double check with some sample data |
| 06:30 |
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kf |
but my colleague handles record import to koha, so I dont know how it looks like |
| 06:30 |
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Elven_Thief |
ok. thanks. |
| 06:30 |
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kf |
try manage staged records, I think you will see it there, not while importing the batch |
| 06:31 |
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Elven_Thief |
ah. i think you're right |
| 06:33 |
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kf |
natham1021: found it: http://www.nabble.com/Linux-Fl[…]11.html#a24854622 |
| 06:36 |
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Elven_Thief |
nathan1021: (i might be wrong here - feel free to correct me) I believe the current preference is to use the koha-zebra-ctl.sh and a cron job running the rebuild_zebra.pl over using the koha-zebraqueue-ctl.sh |
| 06:36 |
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Elven_Thief |
just to save yourself from the same errors i made when figuring out how to set up zebra |
| 06:37 |
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nathan1021 |
just a clarification |
| 06:38 |
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nathan1021 |
what you are saying is to have a koha-zebra-daemon then run through cron the rebuild_zebra.pl |
| 06:38 |
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nathan1021 |
instead of using koha-zebraqueue-daemon |
| 06:38 |
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Elven_Thief |
yeah. i'm trying to find the page i found that on. |
| 06:38 |
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nathan1021 |
am i right? |
| 06:39 |
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Elven_Thief |
there was some justification about how directly using the zebraqueue is a slower process |
| 06:39 |
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nathan1021 |
ok.... |
| 06:39 |
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nathan1021 |
i hope you could find the page... anyway thanks for this tip |
| 06:39 |
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Elven_Thief |
yeah. give me a minute. |
| 06:40 |
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kf |
I think Elven_Thief is right - we are also using rebuild_zebra.pl instead of zebra_queue_daemon |
| 06:43 |
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nathan1021 |
okey... thanks for this info... |
| 06:45 |
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Elven_Thief |
sadly, there's a bit of dated information for either setup wherever i'm searching. |
| 06:45 |
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Elven_Thief |
http://wiki.koha.org/doku.php?[…]uide_ubuntu_hardy <- that will show you how to set it up either way |
| 06:46 |
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kf |
perhaps look here: http://koha.org/documentation/[…]endices/cron-jobs |
| 06:46 |
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Elven_Thief |
http://www.nabble.com/Bugs-abo[…]--td24352984.html |
| 06:47 |
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kf |
in nicole's manual rebuild_zebra.pl is listed as cronjob every n minutes |
| 06:50 |
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chris |
rebuild_zebra.pl as a cron is definitely the safe way to go |
| 06:51 |
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chris |
the zebraqueue-daemon has been known to flip out and consume all cpu and ram |
| 06:51 |
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Elven_Thief |
nice |
| 06:51 |
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nathan1021 |
ok... so how often do i have to run rebuild_zebra.pl |
| 06:52 |
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nathan1021 |
in 5, 60 min? |
| 06:52 |
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chris |
whatever you want |
| 06:52 |
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Elven_Thief |
depends on how fast you want a record change to show up in your opac search |
| 06:53 |
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kf |
hi chris |
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| 06:54 |
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nathan1021 |
correct me if im wrong, if i run rebuild_zebra.pl in every 60 min, that means a book could have already been borrowed few min ago, before it shows in the records, right? |
| 06:55 |
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chris |
in the search yes |
| 06:55 |
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chris |
it will show up as borrowed in circulation, or in the members screen etc |
| 06:56 |
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chris |
i wouldnt run it much less frequently than 10 mins |
| 06:57 |
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chris |
checkout out the example crontab in misc/cronjobs |
| 06:57 |
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chris |
crontab.example |
| 06:59 |
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* chris |
has to go bathe his son, back in a bit |
| 07:09 |
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nathan1021 |
anyways, just a newbie question... |
| 07:09 |
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nathan1021 |
what is the value of PERL5LIB in fc10 |
| 07:11 |
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Elven_Thief |
you have to set that to the directory you installed koha in |
| 07:11 |
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Elven_Thief |
in ubuntu: export PERL5LIB=/usr/share/koha/lib |
| 07:11 |
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Elven_Thief |
i'm guessing that if you installed koha into that directory, you can use that |
| 07:15 |
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nathan1021 |
the PERL5LIB is the one containing the perl modules, right? |
| 07:15 |
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Elven_Thief |
the C4 library |
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Amit_Gupta |
hi kf |
| 07:17 |
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Elven_Thief |
i believe it's internal api that the website and all the fun tools use |
| 07:18 |
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kf |
hi Amit |
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|Lupin| |
hi there |
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Amit_Gupta |
hi lupin |
| 07:25 |
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Amit_Gupta |
hi hdl |
| 07:27 |
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|Lupin| |
hi Amit |
| 07:32 |
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hdl_laptop |
hi all |
| 07:36 |
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nathan1021 |
do i have to Import: |
| 07:36 |
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nathan1021 |
Bibliographic data in MARC21 format |
| 07:36 |
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nathan1021 |
$ misc/migration-tools/bulkmarcimport.pl -file /path/to/marc.iso2709 |
| 07:36 |
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nathan1021 |
Authority data in MARC21 format |
| 07:36 |
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nathan1021 |
$ misc/migration-tools/bulkauthimport.pl -file /path/to/auth.iso2709 after installing koha?? |
| 07:44 |
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Elven_Thief |
if you're doing marc record imports into your system, you can do that or you can use the intranet pages to stage and import marc records |
| 07:46 |
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kf |
I think authorities can only be imported on command line |
| 07:46 |
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kf |
using bulkauthimport.pl |
| 07:48 |
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chris |
hi |Lupin| and hdl_laptop |
| 07:50 |
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|Lupin| |
hello chris |
| 07:50 |
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|Lupin| |
hello kf |
| 07:50 |
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kf |
hi lupin :) |
| 08:05 |
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nathan1021 |
hi.. |
| 08:05 |
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nathan1021 |
how do i check if zebra is running |
| 08:06 |
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Elven_Thief |
ps aux | grep zebra |
| 08:08 |
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nathan1021 |
i have already run ps aux | grep koha-zebra-daemon |
| 08:08 |
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nathan1021 |
only 1 line shows |
| 08:08 |
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nathan1021 |
i think zebra is not running |
| 08:09 |
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Elven_Thief |
your grep will only search for the name of the script. try grepping for daemon as well |
| 08:09 |
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Elven_Thief |
sorry for the spam: |
| 08:09 |
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Elven_Thief |
ps aux | grep zebra |
| 08:09 |
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Elven_Thief |
koha 30236 0.0 0.0 18012 572 ? Ss 03:10 0:00 daemon --name=koha-zebra-ctl.koha --errlog=/var/log/koha/koha-zebradaemon.err --stdout=/var/log/koha/koha-zebradaemon.log --output=/var/log/koha/koha-zebradaemon-output.log --verbose=1 --respawn --delay=30 --user=koha koha -- /usr/bin/zebrasrv -v none,fatal,warn -f /etc/koha/koha-conf.xml |
| 08:09 |
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Elven_Thief |
koha 30237 2.8 0.7 94664 7164 ? S 03:10 0:00 /usr/bin/zebrasrv -v none,fatal,warn -f /etc/koha/koha-conf.xml |
| 08:09 |
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Elven_Thief |
root 30239 0.0 0.0 7524 896 pts/1 S+ 03:10 0:00 grep zebra |
| 08:10 |
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Elven_Thief |
your milage may vary |
| 08:11 |
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nathan1021 |
i have no result such as those |
| 08:11 |
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nathan1021 |
can you help me how to start zebra |
| 08:12 |
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nathan1021 |
so far here are the things that i did |
| 08:12 |
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nathan1021 |
create a symbolic link |
| 08:12 |
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Elven_Thief |
right |
| 08:13 |
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nathan1021 |
after that, should the zebra daemon automatically start, after i reboot the system? |
| 08:13 |
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Elven_Thief |
you will have to start the service |
| 08:14 |
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nathan1021 |
i have already run service koha-zebra-daemon start |
| 08:14 |
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Elven_Thief |
the syntax is different for every distro - ubuntu is /etc/init.d/servicename start |
| 08:14 |
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Elven_Thief |
that will probably work on fedora |
| 08:14 |
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nathan1021 |
the problem is that i didnt get a response |
| 08:15 |
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Elven_Thief |
let's back up. is zebra installed? |
| 08:17 |
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nathan1021 |
what i did was download the source for yaz and zebra from indexdata |
| 08:18 |
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nathan1021 |
then build it individually |
| 08:18 |
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Elven_Thief |
try: which zebrasrv |
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Elven_Thief |
see if that finds it somewhere. if you successfully installed zebra, it should find it somewhere |
| 08:20 |
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nathan1021 |
wooh.. that must be it |
| 08:21 |
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paul_p |
hello, i'm back from vacation. 2 weeks without internet |
| 08:21 |
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nathan1021 |
i got no zebrasrv in folders |
| 08:21 |
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Elven_Thief |
yeah. you'll probably want to check out zebra's docs to make sure it's properly installed |
| 08:21 |
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nathan1021 |
ls |
| 08:22 |
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nathan1021 |
sorry wrong window |
| 08:22 |
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chris |
hi paul_p |
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paul_p |
hello chris |
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Amit_Gupta |
hi paul |
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Elven_Thief |
when you're staging imports, does the matching rules compare from the sql database or the zebra database? |
| 09:30 |
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Elven_Thief |
er, do the matching rules* |
| 09:34 |
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kf |
hm I would think zebra |
| 09:34 |
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kf |
we have a matching rule for 001 |
| 09:35 |
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kf |
hm but marc_xml is in sql - shouldnt it be the same? |
| 09:35 |
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kf |
I dont know |
| 09:36 |
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kf |
just ignore what I said |
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hdl_laptop |
hi |
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Amit_Gupta |
hi hdl |
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gmcharlt |
hi hdl_laptop |
| 10:11 |
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hdl_laptop |
hi gmcharlt |
| 10:11 |
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gmcharlt |
hi Amit |
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Amit_Gupta |
hi galen |
| 10:13 |
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chris |
morning gmcharlt, welcome to monday .... in atlanta ths week? |
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gmcharlt |
chris: no, in Gainesville all this week |
| 10:15 |
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chris |
cool |
| 10:15 |
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kf |
hi gmcharlt |
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Amit_Gupta |
hi mason |
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paul_p |
hello gmcharlt & Amit & kf |
| 10:16 |
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kf |
hi paul_p :) |
| 10:17 |
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Amit_Gupta |
hi paul_p ;) |
| 10:17 |
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Elven_Thief |
kf, it was zebra. i had nuked the sql database for a fresh start and was successfully finding matches because i had not cleared the zebra |
| 10:18 |
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gmcharlt |
hi paul_p - how was your vacation? |
| 10:18 |
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kf |
Elven_Thief: thx for letting me know :) |
| 10:18 |
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paul_p |
quite good, but the return is hard... A lot of (minor) personal problems. Like my cell phone stolen, my 2nd car that don't want to start... |
| 10:19 |
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gmcharlt |
:/ returning to the real world can be hard |
| 10:25 |
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paul_p |
another minor but very annoying one yesterday : 850km driving, without conditionned air (broken) |
| 10:26 |
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gmcharlt |
meep |
| 10:53 |
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chris |
paul_p, or nicomo or hdl .. what is kohabulac? |
| 10:53 |
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paul_p |
chris: bulac is a VERY large library in Paris (well, will be a very large library) |
| 10:54 |
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chris |
excellent |
| 10:54 |
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paul_p |
it will have ALL universities books about "foreign languages" |
| 10:54 |
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paul_p |
probably a lot of maori books ;-) |
| 10:54 |
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chris |
very cool |
| 10:54 |
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paul_p |
something like 2 000 000 books |
| 10:54 |
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paul_p |
the only problem being that the building is not yet builded ... |
| 10:54 |
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paul_p |
but they have officially choosen Koha already |
| 10:54 |
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chris |
biblibre is doing the koha work for them? |
| 10:55 |
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paul_p |
we did some. Now tamil does, and maybe next year (or 2011), they'll publish a huge RFP for some devs |
| 10:56 |
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chris |
very good |
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chris |
that's great news |
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chris |
hey brendan, in ny? |
| 11:03 |
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brendan |
yup in NY |
| 11:04 |
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brendan |
you still awake or get woken up |
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Amit_Gupta |
heya brendan |
| 11:04 |
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brendan |
heya amit |
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paul_p |
brendan: I suspect there are 2 chris, one leaving in NZ, and the clone leaving in US, as there is someone answering on #koha 24/7 |
| 11:05 |
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paul_p |
;) |
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brendan |
heya paul_p - good vacation? |
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chris |
heh |
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chris |
well there is chris_n too, we take turns :) |
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Amit_Gupta |
hi jwagner, jdavidb |
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jdavidb |
Hi, Amit. :) |
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jwagner |
Hi Amit |
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gmcharlt |
hi jwagner, jdavidb |
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jdavidb |
Hi, gmcharlt! |
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jwagner |
Morning, gmcharlt |
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|Lupin| |
hi gmcharlt |
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|Lupin| |
gmcharlt: many thanks for having accepted the patches re:Bug 3464 |
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munin |
Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3464 enhancement, P5, ---, Sebastien.Hinderer snv.jussieu.fr, ASSIGNED, borrowers table should contain country information for libraries with international patron populations |
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|Lupin| |
gmcharlt: I'm sorry you had to fix the patch. Next time don't hesitate to ask me to do the fixups myself if that's more convenient for you |
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gmcharlt |
|Lupin|: don't worry, there's more work for you on that one - now that the country is stored, there are various places where it could be displayed |
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|Lupin| |
gmcharlt: ahah... :-) |
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|Lupin| |
gmcharlt: like which places ? |
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gmcharlt |
|Lupin|: the member header, for one - i.e., the left-top area where the patron address is display for things like checkout, borrower account, etc. |
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|Lupin| |
gmcharlt: would you accept to add this and the other places you can think about to the corresponding bug as a bug comment, please ? |
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gmcharlt |
|Lupin|: sure |
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|Lupin| |
gmcharlt: and, if it's possible, a clue about where this should be done would be helpful, cause what you just said does not speak much to me as a lynx user... |
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gmcharlt |
heh - good point |
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|Lupin| |
gmcharlt: :) |
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chris_n-2nd is now known as chris_n |
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chris_n |
g'morning || g'whatever-time-of-day |
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jdavidb |
g'morning, chris_n. :) |
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|Lupin| |
chris_n: what does the _n mean ? |
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gmcharlt |
|Lupin|: _n = Nighswonger, to distinguish him from chris (AKA Chris Cormack) |
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|Lupin| |
ah there are two chris around !! didn't realise that |
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gmcharlt |
it's a conspiracy, I tell you! |
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|Lupin| |
:-)))) |
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jdavidb |
Fear the conspiracy. Just because you're not paranoid, doesn't mean they're not out to get you. |
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|Lupin| |
:-) |
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chris_n |
hehe |
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paul_p |
what is strange is that the conspirators have choosen chris, and not john as 1st name... |
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chris_n |
gmcharlt++ for remembering the spelling |
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jdavidb |
(Apologies to non-native-English speakers there. It's a pain for *me* to parse, and I wrote it.) |
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paul_p |
hi to US ppl (i'm back today) |
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chris_n |
hi paul_p |
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jdavidb |
Welcome back, paul_p! How was the vacation? |
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|Lupin| |
jdavidb: there is en equivalent expresson in french and perhaps also in other languages, so I e.g. could get the meaning with just a shallow parsing |
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|Lupin| |
hey paul_p |
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jdavidb is now known as jchrisb |
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|Lupin| |
k, powerdown in one minute here so gotta go. bye all |
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jchrisb |
I'm joining the conspiracy! |
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chris_n |
by |Lupin| |
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jchrisb is now known as jdavidb |
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chris_n |
:-) |
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chris_n |
chris->clone(ur_name_goes_here) |
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paul_p |
hi to US ppl (i'm back today) |
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paul_p is now known as chris_poulain |
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jdavidb |
Ooo.... |
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chris_n |
@pun |
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munin |
chris_n: I'll give you the answer as soon as RDA is ready |
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chris_n |
methinks munin needs to have a pun function |
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jdavidb |
Munin needs lots of things. More good quotes, for one. Where's wizzyrea when you need her? |
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munin |
jdavidb: downloading the Perl source |
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* jdavidb |
pokes munin with a stick. |
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jdavidb |
@quote random |
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munin |
jdavidb: Quote #1: "<pianohacker> resolve, rather, I doubt it needs lotion" (added by gmcharlt at 03:05 AM, May 31, 2009) |
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* chris_n |
runs away babbling and gnawing his tongue |
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jwagner |
@quote random |
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munin |
jwagner: Quote #27: "<jdavidb> ("A helicopter does not fly; it is a collection of quasi-unrelated parts moving in close formation, beating the sky into submission.")" (added by gmcharlt at 09:21 PM, August 22, 2009) |
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jdavidb |
:) |
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jwagner |
Welcome back paul_p |
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|Lupin| |
hmm it seems they don't want to interrupt the power here... |
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|Lupin| |
hi again |
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paul_p |
again ? who is "again" ? Anyway, Hi |Lupin| You missed to be the 100th commiter from short ! |
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|Lupin| |
paul_p: too bad ! :-) |
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|Lupin| |
paul_p: I was wondering who is your local Drupal expert at biblibre ? |
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paul_p |
(you were 96th) |
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|Lupin| |
paul_p: 96 is not bas :) |
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paul_p |
what kind of question do you want to ask ? it can be nicomo (functionnal pov) or Kivutar (technical questions) |
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|Lupin| |
paul_p: ah I just understood your joke about again :) |
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|Lupin| is now known as again |
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again |
I guess I ws just saying hello to myself |
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again |
:P |
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again is now known as | |
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paul_p: no precise question atm, I was just wondering because I'm just building a site using it (got the idea of using drupal because biblibre uses it) |
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paul_p |
so, it's better to ask nicomo I think |
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paul_p: e.g. I'm wondering what themes modules you use, and also I'm lookng for suggestions regarding the visual design since it's something difficult to master for me |
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|Lupin| |
paul_p: globally, you are satisfied with it ? |
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paul_p |
very. But for more details, ask nicomo ;-) |
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paul_p |
(the only pain is to upgrade drupal and modules, on multiple hosted sites if i'm not mistaken. otherwise, it's really nice, powerful & easy to setup |
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|Lupin| |
paul_p: ok |
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|Lupin| |
paul_p: just one last thing... did you consider other CMSs such as Joomla ? If yes, do you know why drupal has been chosen rather than another one ? |
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paul_p |
mmm... we hesiteted between joomla and drupal. Can't remember why we have choosen Drupal, but I remember we hesitated a lot ! |
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|Lupin| |
paul_p: ok ! thanks !! I'll bug nicomo & kivutar one of these days :-) |
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Kivutar |
|Lupin|: feel free to bug me :) |
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hdl_laptop |
paul_p: Drupal really seems to provide the best code base and the more flexible in terms of additional features |
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hdl_laptop |
+ it is already used in more and more US libraries |
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hdl_laptop |
+ it can be hooked with solr |
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|Lupin| |
hdl_laptop: ok thanks for the information ! |
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|Lupin| |
Kivutar: sure, I'll do so one of these days. NO time now but I'd really like to talk to you and perhaps show you the site I have started to build so that you can look and perhaps do some suggestions to improve the graphical design |
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nahuel |
gmcharlt, around ? |
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gmcharlt |
nahuel: yes |
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nahuel |
cool |
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nahuel |
gmcharlt, did you see my mail about the "Get" function ? |
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|Lupin| |
k, time for doing some shopping, see you later guys |
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nahuel |
gmcharlt, about bug #3370 |
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munin |
Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3370 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, nahuel.angelinettibiblibre.com, ASSIGNED, Add the support of a Get Method on biblio records |
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gmcharlt |
yes - I'll push it, but I would still really appreciate it if code were also presented that actually *used* it |
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nahuel |
ok I will do it :p |
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sleekodie |
Greetings |
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sleekodie |
is there anyone in here |
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sleekodie |
? |
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jdavidb |
Nope. |
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sleekodie |
ha ha |
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|Lupin| |
back ! |
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jdavidb |
We're all very well-defined figments of your imagination. |
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sleekodie |
geez ...hoping I can get some Koha help here today |
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jdavidb |
Likely so. Lots of very helpful folk here today. |
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sleekodie |
good .... |
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sleekodie |
I'm running Koha 3.00.03 on a Debian Lenny |
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sleekodie |
migrating from L4U and we're having trouble generating barcode |
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sleekodie |
we get an error message: can't find PDF/Reuse/Barcode .... |
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sleekodie |
in the path |
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jdavidb |
Sounds like a CPAN module is missing. Just a shot in the dark here, but I'd say if you force installed PDF::Reuse::Barcode, that might clear it up. |
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sleekodie |
line 14 of label-print-pdf.pl |
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sleekodie |
just did about 10 mins ago |
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jdavidb |
hrm. |
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sleekodie |
do u want me to paste the full text of the error message here? |
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jdavidb |
It might be helpful to someone...I'm a little out-of-territory here, but it might spark something. |
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sleekodie |
smile ... |
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sleekodie |
here goes |
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sleekodie |
Koha error |
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sleekodie |
The following fatal error has occurred: |
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sleekodie |
Can't locate PDF/Reuse/Barcode.pm in @INC (@INC contains: /usr/share/koha/lib /etc/perl /usr/local/lib/perl/5.10.0 /usr/local/share/perl/5.10.0 /usr/lib/perl5 /usr/share/perl5 /usr/lib/perl/5.10 /usr/share/perl/5.10 /usr/local/lib/site_perl .) at /usr/share/koha/intranet/cgi-bin/labels/label-print-pdf.pl line 14. |
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sleekodie |
BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /usr/share/koha/intranet/cgi-bin/labels/label-print-pdf.pl line 14. |
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sleekodie |
ApacheServer version: Apache/2.2.11 (Debian) Server built: Jul 10 2009 20:47:41 |
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sleekodie |
Koha3.00.02.012 |
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sleekodie |
Koha DB3.0002012 |
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sleekodie |
MySQLmysql Ver 14.12 Distrib 5.0.84, for debian-linux-gnu (i486) using readline 5.2 |
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sleekodie |
OSLinux hawklibrary 2.6.30-1-686 #1 SMP Thu Jul 30 14:45:30 UTC 2009 i686 |
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sleekodie |
Perl5.010000 |
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sleekodie |
anyone else seen that error message? |
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nahuel |
sleekodie, you need to install the cpan module : PDF::Reuse::Barcode |
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nahuel |
:) |
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sleekodie |
just did about 10 (now about 15 mins) ago |
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jdavidb |
sez he's done that, nahuel. |
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nahuel |
hmmm |
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sleekodie |
do I have to remake Koha? |
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nahuel |
did you restart apache ? |
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nahuel |
sleekodie, no |
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sleekodie |
i restarted the box (whole thing) |
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nahuel |
did you verify where it was installed ? |
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jdavidb |
I'm thinking it's a blown-path problem, maybe. Might do a find / -name Barcode.pm from some rooty account, and see that it is in fact in one of the @INC directories. |
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jdavidb |
(or a subdir of one of them. |
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sleekodie |
speaking of find ...i did that starting from the / and it didn't find it ...however ....if i go to the /usr/share/koha/lib folder ..the PDF/Reuse folder is there |
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jdavidb |
That should be fine, if Barcode.pm landed in there. |
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nahuel |
sleekodie, find is case sensitive |
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sleekodie |
hold on ...let me reissue the find |
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schuster |
Owen here? |
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sleekodie |
side question ...how do I view the @INC to make sure the path is there |
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schuster |
I'm trying to find his blog with all his handy tips for customization! |
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sleekodie |
:) |
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sleekodie |
(that shud be helpful for a newbie here) |
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sleekodie |
the find returned this: /usr/local/share/perl/5.10.0/GD/Barcode.pm |
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chris_n |
sleekodie: try 'sudo updatedb && locate Barcode.pm |
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sleekodie |
I'm logged in as root so no need for sudo here |
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chris_n |
that's part of the GD module, we're looking for Reuse/Barcode.pm |
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sleekodie |
I didn't give the box a chance to finish ... |
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sleekodie |
here's the complete output |
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sleekodie |
(it's not letting me) |
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chris_n |
? |
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jwagner |
schuster, I think the blog you're wanting is at http://www.myacpl.org/koha/ for Owen. |
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sleekodie |
(it's not letting me paste the output here) -- I mean I can paste it here but can't send it |
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chris_n |
so find did not return anything like 'Reuse/Barcode.pm' ? |
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chris_n |
http://pastebin.com/ |
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sleekodie |
it did |
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sleekodie |
but it's in /root/build folder? |
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sleekodie |
hawklibrary:/# find / -name 'Barcode.pm' |
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chris_n |
it does not appear to have installed |
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chris_n |
did cpan report any errors when you installed the module? |
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sleekodie |
no |
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sleekodie |
let me hand type the find output here ok? |
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sleekodie |
usr local share perl 5.10.0 GD Barcode.pm |
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sleekodie |
(the spaces are supposed to be slashes) |
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chris_n |
k |
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sleekodie |
root .cpan build PDF-Reuse-Barcode-0.05-8v9juv blib lib PDF Reuse Barcode.pm |
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sleekodie |
root .cpan build PDF-Reuse-Barcode-0.05-8v9juv/Barcode.pm |
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sleekodie |
the other 2 are from the GD-Barcode-1.15 |
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chris_n |
you can try 'cd .cpan/build/ PDF-Reuse-Barcode-0.05-8v9juv' |
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chris_n |
then 'make test' |
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chris_n |
and see what it says |
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* chris_n |
thinks it might be easier to use the package maintainer's versions |
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chris_n |
ie 'apt-get install libpdf-reuse-barcode-perl' |
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chris_n |
also libpdf-reuse-pdf if it is not already installed |
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sleekodie |
can't find Barcode::Code128 -- can't produce those barcodes |
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joetho |
zippy the pinhead is running loose in my OFFICE! |
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sleekodie |
(lol at joetho) |
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sleekodie |
ok ...doing those 2 installs now ... |
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chris_n |
libpdf-reuse-pdf should be libpdf-reuse-perl |
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WvdV |
or Hi, is it easy to understand why an advanced search on language doesn't seem to work, despite having filled in things like =041 \\$aeng ? On keyword 'fre' it finds the french texts, as well as titles such as 'Freedom' and authors like 'Freeman'. But a search on the language 'fre' or 'french' doesn't give the texts written in french. |
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sleekodie |
installing now ...... |
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sleekodie |
will let u know when done |
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chris_n |
k |
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sleekodie |
done |
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sleekodie |
restart the box? |
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chris_n |
no |
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chris_n |
just retry the label batch |
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sleekodie |
ok ...hang on ...yelling across the room :) |
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chris_n |
the marvels of moder communications :-) |
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chris_n |
modern even |
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sleekodie |
lol........ |
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sleekodie |
progress! |
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sleekodie |
it's processing |
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sleekodie |
further along than before |
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sleekodie |
chris ...and the rest of the gang ...thanks so much for your help ...you can go ahead and assist Wvd's question |
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sleekodie |
I do have another question unrelated to the barcode but a fun one |
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chris_n |
WvdV: sorry, I'm not a search guru, but there are several here so give it a bit |
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chris_n |
sleekodie: np glad to help |
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* chris_n |
lives in label land these months |
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chris_n |
sleekodie: what's your other question? |
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* chris_n |
greets pianohacker |
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sleekodie |
anyone here an expert or have experience in Windows Server 2003 Active Directory/LDAP integration with Koha? |
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* chris_n |
runs away... fast ;-) |
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sleekodie |
Hi Pianohacker ...oyu're not hacking a piano today, aren't you? :) |
| 16:04 |
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chris_n |
sleekodie: atz is the guru on that one |
| 16:04 |
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pianohacker |
No, the piano is safe... |
| 16:04 |
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pianohacker |
for now |
| 16:05 |
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chris_n |
you'll most likely need to post to the mailing list as he's not been about lately |
| 16:05 |
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pianohacker |
sleekodie: That might also be a good list question, since there are others who've had the same problem |
| 16:05 |
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chris_n |
great minds think alike |
| 16:06 |
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* chris_n |
heads off in search of food... |
| 16:06 |
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sleekodie |
back to the barcode topic |
| 16:06 |
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sleekodie |
the pdf file is damaged and could not be repaired |
| 16:07 |
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chris_n |
hrm |
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pianohacker |
I think chris_n sent a change to the pdf generation code. Did that make it into 3.0.3 ? |
| 16:07 |
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chris_n |
open the pdf file in a text editor and post the error code |
| 16:08 |
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chris_n |
pianohacker: it turned on compression in pdfs and did not make it into 3.0.3 afaict |
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pianohacker |
k |
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joetho |
sleekodie: try this again later. I seem to remember some developers discussing LDAP interfaces on here the other day, and maybe they just aren't morning people. |
| 16:11 |
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sleekodie |
(re LDAP -- will do) I will also post on the mail list |
| 16:11 |
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sleekodie |
re PDF ...I have the file open in a exit editor |
| 16:11 |
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pianohacker |
atz is currently on holiday from IRC, won't be back for a while |
| 16:11 |
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joetho |
also.... the interface is going to be very similar to connecting to Evergreen. |
| 16:12 |
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joetho |
I'm just sayin. |
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joetho |
and today IS monday... |
| 16:12 |
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chris_n |
hehe |
| 16:12 |
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joetho |
Mickey |
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MickeyC |
hey jo |
| 16:12 |
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joetho |
any news on our merge thing? |
| 16:12 |
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MickeyC |
nyet |
| 16:12 |
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joetho |
no news here at all |
| 16:13 |
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joetho |
OK |
| 16:13 |
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joetho |
has Brenda started yet? |
| 16:13 |
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MickeyC |
yes, she's on board and working hard |
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paul_p |
joetho: they are not morning ppl, or it's not morning for them ;-) (for us, in Europe, it's 6PM, not really a time for a morning man :D ) |
| 16:13 |
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MickeyC |
question for any about Damaged item status |
| 16:14 |
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MickeyC |
it apparently does not behave like Lost, and prevent Holds in catalog |
| 16:14 |
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MickeyC |
I think it should |
| 16:14 |
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MickeyC |
Preference, or bug? |
| 16:14 |
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MickeyC |
Your opinion. |
| 16:14 |
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pianohacker |
Bug |
| 16:14 |
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sleekodie |
the label batch threw an webpage error into the pdf |
| 16:14 |
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sleekodie |
<h1>Koha error</h1> |
| 16:14 |
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sleekodie |
<p>The following fatal error has occurred:</p> |
| 16:14 |
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sleekodie |
<pre><code>Can't call method "field" on an undefined value at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Labels.pm line 846. |
| 16:14 |
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pianohacker |
sleekodie: Hmm. That looks like a corrupted record error at first glance |
| 16:15 |
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joetho |
Mickey: no reports of that here, but I will test it along with some other stuff I am working on. Maybe it's just you. |
| 16:16 |
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pianohacker |
Can you view all of the records you're trying to print? |
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sleekodie |
piano ...i was trying to make labels |
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MickeyC |
:( |
| 16:16 |
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sleekodie |
how to find which record is corrupted? |
| 16:16 |
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MickeyC |
s'always just me |
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joetho |
;) |
| 16:16 |
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joetho |
fourteen people like this |
| 16:17 |
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chris_n |
sleekodie: try a batch with a single item in it... it may simply be a corrupted record as pianohacker suggests |
| 16:18 |
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sleekodie |
think we found it .... |
| 16:18 |
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sleekodie |
it's a record with a missing barcode |
| 16:19 |
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MickeyC |
piano: Bug 3460 seems to indicate that some libs WANT to place holds on damaged items |
| 16:19 |
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munin |
Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3460 normal, P3, ---, gmcharltgmail.com, NEW, Hold options inconsistent for "Damaged" items |
| 16:19 |
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pianohacker |
That's odd. Why wouldn't you just place a record hold? |
| 16:19 |
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MickeyC |
we're getting reports in our install of libs having DAMAGED items turn up on their holds pick list. This might actually be a holds issue rather than a damaged status issue |
| 16:20 |
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MickeyC |
yes it's odd |
| 16:20 |
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sleekodie |
(barcode update: I have my peer looking into that record on his laptop ..will update you once he finds that record) |
| 16:20 |
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joetho |
MC: fix bug if it's a bug, and make it a yes/no preference. That makes sense to me. |
| 16:21 |
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MickeyC |
placing holds on damaged items is not a reasonable functionality imo but somebody out there wants it ergo koha = preference |
| 16:21 |
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joetho |
what you said. |
| 16:21 |
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gmcharlt |
MickeyC: can be reasonable for staff to want to place hold requests on damaged items |
| 16:21 |
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MickeyC |
hi galen |
| 16:21 |
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MickeyC |
nice to see you! |
| 16:21 |
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gmcharlt |
hi MickeyC |
| 16:21 |
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gmcharlt |
and likewise |
| 16:21 |
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chris_n |
sleekodie: btw, the label creator is getting a major overhaul code-wise with some nice improvements in work-flow |
| 16:22 |
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MickeyC |
under what circumstances is reasonable, for my info? |
| 16:22 |
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joetho |
yaaaaaay to the creator of the label creator! |
| 16:24 |
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joetho |
mc: If the lib is using "damaged" as "in repair". If it is too damaged to circulate, that is another story. |
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chris_n |
off to pop popcorn...bbiab |
| 16:24 |
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sleekodie |
chris_N ..thanks .... |
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MickeyC |
if damaged = send to repair, then shouldn't show up on holds pick lists |
| 16:24 |
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MickeyC |
that's the problem |
| 16:24 |
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pianohacker |
I think looking for food -> popping popcorn is not necessarily a logical progression... |
| 16:24 |
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joetho |
mc: or if the library is using "damaged" for something minor. Bent pages. |
| 16:24 |
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sleekodie |
told the guy to chop the export from L4U after 5 records ...stage that into Koha and then try the labels with that |
| 16:25 |
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chris_n |
sleekodie: let me know what turns up... I'll read back when I get back |
| 16:25 |
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chris_n |
pianohacker: since when was the search for food a logical thing... ;-) |
| 16:25 |
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MickeyC |
um, no point in using damaged for bent pages |
| 16:25 |
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joetho |
mc: this should be a preference. No doubt. |
| 16:25 |
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MickeyC |
mmm |
| 16:26 |
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sleekodie |
MickeyC ...guess Koha interprets "damaged" more literally than we do |
| 16:26 |
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joetho |
then why would a damaged book NOT circulate? Use a "Doesn't Circulate" collection code. |
| 16:27 |
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MickeyC |
Here's what our member lib wrote: When we have an item that is damaged, we change the status to "damaged" and give to the appropriate department head so they can determine whether to keep, repair, replace or delete. |
| 16:27 |
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MickeyC |
Now for the problem: Setting the status to damaged does not keep the item from appearing on the pick list. Is this a bug that is going to be fixed or do we need to come up with a different method of handling our damaged items? Any help would be appreciated. |
| 16:28 |
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MickeyC |
Pref setting is acceptable, but that' development work and who know when that will happen |
| 16:29 |
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joetho |
as long as you're changing something, why not change the collection code instead of the damaged status? It would be just as easy. |
| 16:29 |
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pianohacker |
But that's such a hack |
| 16:29 |
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pianohacker |
How about a notforloan status? |
| 16:30 |
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MickeyC |
no, not as easy to change coll code as status |
| 16:31 |
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MickeyC |
i think for now the NFL could be the solution |
| 16:31 |
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MickeyC |
thanks |
| 16:31 |
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pianohacker |
np |
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joetho |
or add another value to damaged and name it something meaner. "Damaged- in repair" even though that is just a phrase. It would still work the same. |
| 16:33 |
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joetho |
or even better, add another value to not4loan and call THAT "damnaged" |
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joetho |
whoops |
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joetho |
*damaged |
| 16:34 |
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MickeyC |
that's good |
| 16:34 |
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MickeyC |
like that possibility |
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joetho |
"Damaged- In Processing" |
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kf |
bye #koha |
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| 16:46 |
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sleekodie |
(refresh my IRC memory ..how to send a private msg) ? |
| 16:46 |
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sleekodie |
chris_n ...we imported 2 smaller batches of b ooks (6 books each) and |
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gmcharlt |
sleekodie: /msg nick super-secret message |
| 16:47 |
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sleekodie |
we're now unable to generate labels for those batches |
| 16:47 |
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sleekodie |
we get message back "label batch created with id 1 each time |
| 16:47 |
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sleekodie |
shouldn't the id auto increment? |
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chris_n |
sleekodie: what version of koha are you using? |
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sleekodie |
chris n koha 3.00.03 (system reports 3.00.02 12something |
| 16:51 |
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sleekodie |
we cleared out the database ....and imported/staged the small batch of 6 books |
| 16:51 |
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sleekodie |
and gen the labels ...it did generate that successfully |
| 16:51 |
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sleekodie |
viewed the pdf ...it didn't show the barcode ..but when printed ..it prints |
| 16:51 |
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sleekodie |
(go figure) |
| 16:52 |
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sleekodie |
so that means there is a corrupt record in the import file |
| 16:53 |
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chris_n |
k |
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chris_n |
you must have a version before the bugfix for later versions of adobe reader, hence the barcodes not showing in the viewer |
| 16:55 |
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sleekodie |
let me see if I can view it ... |
| 16:55 |
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chris_n |
you can verify this by viewing in adobe reader ver 7.0 or less |
| 16:56 |
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* chris_n |
seems to remember some discussion about making the bulk marc importer behave better with corrupt records |
| 16:57 |
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sleekodie |
using reader 9.1.3 |
| 16:58 |
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tomascohen |
hi gmcharlt, is it posible to install latest stable release of koha with latest libraries from CPAN? |
| 16:58 |
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gmcharlt |
tomascohen: should be - I'm not actually sure what you're asking |
| 16:59 |
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gmcharlt |
tomascohen: i.e., it will likely work with latest CPAN versions of dependent libraries |
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gmcharlt |
but depending on your platform, may be easier to install the Perl module packages maintained by your distribution of choice |
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tomascohen |
i did some upgrades to cpan libraries in a 3.0.3 install and had some troubles |
| 17:00 |
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tomascohen |
because of the MARC::File::XML version issue |
| 17:00 |
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tomascohen |
i now have to install new kohas for several libraries |
| 17:00 |
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gmcharlt |
ah, OK - latest version of MARC::File::XML should be OK |
| 17:00 |
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tomascohen |
you mean it will work with koha v3.0.3 ? |
| 17:01 |
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schuster |
3419 - bug - export from reports only exports first 10000- not sure who put this limitation in, but I don't like it. Didn't have that problem before the feature to edit the SQL... Any hints on fixing it? |
| 17:02 |
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gmcharlt |
tomascohen: yes, it should |
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tomascohen |
thnaks! |
| 17:05 |
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chris_n |
sleekodie: the fixes for that have not made it to 3.0.3 yet apparently |
| 17:06 |
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chris_n |
@later |
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munin |
chris_n: I've exhausted my database of quotes |
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chris_n |
hdl_laptop: you might want to apply those patches to 3.0.x at some point |
| 17:07 |
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sleekodie |
stilly question |
| 17:07 |
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sleekodie |
we've staged 14 records |
| 17:07 |
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sleekodie |
gen'd labels for those |
| 17:07 |
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sleekodie |
now how to move from resoviour to catalog? |
| 17:08 |
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gmcharlt |
sleekodie: go to 'manage stage imports', then commit the batch |
| 17:09 |
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sleekodie |
all we see is "undo import from catalog" |
| 17:09 |
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gmcharlt |
sleekodie: then it's already committed, so only thing lack may be indexing |
| 17:10 |
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sleekodie |
is there a way to force a reindex? |
| 17:11 |
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gmcharlt |
from the command line |
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gmcharlt |
run rebuild_zebra.pl -b -z |
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sleekodie |
rebuild returns error ...line 5 C4::context.pm can not be found |
| 17:23 |
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gmcharlt |
sleekodie: you need to set two enviroment variables to run stuff from the command line |
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gmcharlt |
export PERL5LIB=/path/to/directory/containing/C4 |
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gmcharlt |
export KOHA_CONF=/path/to/active/koha-conf.xml |
| 17:25 |
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sleekodie |
trying that ... |
| 17:43 |
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sleekodie |
still complains ab out C4 |
| 17:44 |
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gmcharlt |
what do you get when you run |
| 17:44 |
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gmcharlt |
env | grep PERL5LIB |
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sleekodie |
PERL5LIB=/usr/share/koha/lib/C4 |
| 17:47 |
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gmcharlt |
ah, should be /usr/share/koha/lib |
| 17:49 |
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sleekodie |
i think I'm pointing to the wron conf.XML as I get this Use of uninitialized value $db_driver in concatenation (.) or string at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Context.pm line 666. |
| 17:49 |
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sleekodie |
Can't connect to data source 'dbname=__DB_NAME__;host=__DB_HOST__;port=__DB_PORT__' because I can't work out what driver to use (it doesn't seem to contain a 'dbi:driver:' prefix and the DBI_DRIVER env var is not set) at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Context.pm line 666 |
| 17:49 |
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gmcharlt |
env | grep KOHA_CONF |
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gmcharlt |
most likely, the correct value for you is /etc/koha/koha-conf.xml |
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| 18:19 |
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sleekodie |
that was the case gmchatlt ...I got interrupted in the middle of trying to fix that ...hence the long silence ... |
| 18:19 |
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sleekodie |
now re-starting my fix |
| 18:24 |
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sleekodie |
got a warning message .....ignoring it since it's not error |
| 18:26 |
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sleekodie |
the books are still in resevouior |
| 18:31 |
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chris_n |
sleekodie: can you do a catalog search and obtain results? |
| 18:33 |
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* chris_n |
seems to remember that the batch remains in the reservoir even after committing |
| 18:33 |
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sleekodie |
i search the catalog and I get nothing found (via OPAC) but I find it in Biblios in reservoir |
| 18:34 |
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chris_n |
hrm |
| 18:34 |
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sleekodie |
when the import was staged ...it showed as imported |
| 18:34 |
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chris_n |
do 'rebuild_zebra.pl -b -r -v' |
| 18:35 |
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sleekodie |
i did a rebuild with the b and z options |
| 18:35 |
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sleekodie |
now trying b r v |
| 18:36 |
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chris_n |
how many records did it process and were there any errors? |
| 18:36 |
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sleekodie |
22 |
| 18:37 |
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chris_n |
no errors? |
| 18:37 |
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sleekodie |
(23 have 2 batches of staged imports ...one with 14 and the other with 6 should it should be 20 |
| 18:37 |
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sleekodie |
still reading log ..... |
| 18:37 |
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sleekodie |
it spewed :) |
| 18:37 |
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chris_n |
-v++ |
| 18:38 |
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sleekodie |
no errors |
| 18:39 |
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gmcharlt |
sleekodie: another question - is zebrasrv running? |
| 18:39 |
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sleekodie |
it should be .... |
| 18:39 |
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sleekodie |
how to test? |
| 18:39 |
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gmcharlt |
ps -ef | grep zebrasrv |
| 18:39 |
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Ropuch |
hidelostitems on maybe? |
| 18:40 |
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chris_n |
ok |
| 18:40 |
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chris_n |
branchcode |
| 18:40 |
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chris_n |
gmcharlt: I wonder if the branchcode for the imported records is non-existent? |
| 18:41 |
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gmcharlt |
chris_n: could be, although that shouldn't prevent basic bib search from working |
| 18:41 |
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chris_n |
that causes borking |
| 18:41 |
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sleekodie |
seems not to find the zebrasrv |
| 18:41 |
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sleekodie |
hmmmm..... |
| 18:42 |
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gmcharlt |
sleekodie: there should be an /etc/init.d/koha-zebra-ctl.sh or the like |
| 18:43 |
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sleekodie |
looking |
| 18:45 |
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sleekodie |
hmmm... |
| 18:45 |
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sleekodie |
I see a symlink ..koha-zebra-daemon points to /usr/share/koha/bin/koha-zebra-ctl.sh |
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chris_n |
sleekodie: /etc/init.d/koha-zebra-daemon start |
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chris_n |
assuming that's where koha-zebra-daemon is |
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sleekodie |
that's where it is |
| 18:49 |
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chris_n |
then run rebuild-zebra.pl again |
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chris_n |
after ps -ef | grep zebra |
| 18:49 |
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chris_n |
to be sure the zebra really runs |
| 18:50 |
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sleekodie |
aha ..... |
| 18:50 |
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sleekodie |
invalid user .......sheez |
| 18:50 |
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sleekodie |
user is not in koha group |
| 18:50 |
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chris_n |
su koha |
| 18:50 |
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chris_n |
then try starting it |
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sleekodie |
trying to remember how to add user to group via command line |
| 18:51 |
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chris_n |
'update-rc.d koha-zebra-daemon defaults' will get zebra setup to start on system start |
| 18:52 |
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chris_n |
groupadd |
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sleekodie |
bingo ...i had to su as the user |
| 18:53 |
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sleekodie |
let me add the user to the koha group so that update will work |
| 18:56 |
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sleekodie |
when rebuilding the index ...i get permissions denied |
| 18:56 |
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chris_n |
be sure that the user zebra is running has has file permissions on the index file(s) |
| 18:57 |
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chris_n |
write permissions that is |
| 18:58 |
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sleekodie |
(I su'd as root and rebuilt |
| 18:58 |
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sleekodie |
so that means ...i have to fix the daemon and the user accounts |
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chris_n |
right |
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chris_n |
zebras are not easily managed creatures... ;-) |
| 18:59 |
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sleekodie |
still not finding the book in the catalog ..... |
| 18:59 |
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sleekodie |
sigh .... |
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chris_n |
who owns /var/run/zebradb ? |
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chris_n |
it should be your koha user |
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sleekodie |
i think it's root ..how to best check? lsown? |
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chris_n |
ls -l /var/run/zebradb |
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chris_n |
it should probably not be root |
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sleekodie |
i'ts in /var/run/koha ..and the user is NOT root |
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sleekodie |
librarian owns that |
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sleekodie |
hris ...I'm behind on some other things ...my peer talked with the boss and we're putting this on the back burner for now |
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sleekodie |
that msg was meant for Chris_n |
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chris_n |
np... I imagine your issues are user/permission issue though |
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sleekodie |
chris_n ...did u see my private msg? |
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chris |
hmm busy irc day |
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schuster |
Mainly 2 people. |
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schuster |
See you tomorrow. |
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chris |
heya schuster :) all recovered from disneyland? |
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chris |
ack bus time |
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hdl_laptop |
chris_n : next 3.0 version should be reconciliation version and Amazon WS patches are on this branch |
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hdl_laptop |
But I should publicize those patches on 3.0.3 also |
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chris_n |
hdl_laptop: I'm speaking of bug 3390 patches |
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munin |
Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3390 major, PATCH-Sent, ---, cnighswongerfoundations.edu, CLOSED FIXED, PDFs w/barcodes not displaying properly in Adobe Reader >v7.0 |
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hdl_laptop |
chris_n those patches are already on reconciliation : |
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hdl_laptop |
http://git.koha.org/cgi-bin/gi[…]&st=commit&s=3390 |
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chris_n |
hdl_laptop: so they should show up in the next 3.0.x release? |
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hdl_laptop |
yes |
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chris_n |
great, tnx |
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richard |
hi |
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chris |
back |
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|Lupin| |
good night every body |
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|Lupin| |
or day |
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|Lupin| |
bye chris and all |
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hdl_laptop |
gmcharlt: sending biblibre patches over master |
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hdl_laptop |
hoping you receive them |
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gmcharlt |
hdl_laptop: they're coming trhough |
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gmcharlt |
hdl_laptop: about how many of them will there be? |
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hdl_laptop |
still have to make some more (between 5 and 10) |
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gmcharlt |
k - if you said 200, I was going to suggest a different transmission mechanism ;) |
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hdl_laptop |
+ have to send bugfixes on new_acq |
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hdl_laptop |
hehe gmcharlt I am grouping them |
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hdl_laptop |
I hope I won't be loosing anything |
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gmcharlt |
hdl_laptop: for subsequent groups, if you could do -n when you run format-patch, would help |
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chris |
gmcharlt: got a sec? |
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gmcharlt |
chris: what's up? |
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chris |
http://profiles.workbuffer.org/circ-circulation/ |
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chris |
vs |
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chris |
http://profiles.workbuffer.org[…]ion-config-cache/ |
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chris |
i think we have found our next win _common_config in C4::Context |
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chris |
take all that xml parsing out of the way |
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gmcharlt |
yep |
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gmcharlt |
for your next trick, I suggest poking at the code that grabs the MARC framework definitions |
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chris |
*nod* |
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chris |
ill do a bit more trying to get circ a bit faster, then will look at that |
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chris |
but now i better do some paid work |
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tosses a wooden nickel towards chris to get him to stick with it ;) |
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chris |
heh |
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chris |
will do more this evening, will send a patch for C4::Context and hopefully for the marc stuff too |
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chris |
and then i should update INSTALL.debian-lenny for a start |
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chris |
hm whats RIS |
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chris |
ohh |
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chris |
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R[…]%28file_format%29 <-- that eh? |
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chris |
cool |
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wonders if Jo is about? |
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chris |
she will be very excited about the moveitem script |
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CGI092 |
Fixing bugs in my librarys database, call numbers are out of order, no easy solution? |
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CGI092 |
talking to myself |
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CGI092 |
? |
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pianohacker |
Generally, you can expect to wait more than 37 seconds for a response, yes |
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chris |
out of order in what way? |
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CGI092 |
e174.5 before e.174 |
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chris |
what version of koha? |
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CGI092 |
3.0 |
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chris |
3.0.0 or .1 .2 or .3? |
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CGI092 |
3.01.00.032 |
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chris |
ahh so none of the above |
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chris |
you running from a git checkout eh? |
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CGI092 |
yes |
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chris |
in that case, no, no easy solution |
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sleekodie |
I'm back again :) |
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CGI092 |
afraid of that, here goes 12 hours of reorganizing, thanks anyway.. |
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CGI092 |
any updates to fix solution? |
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chris |
well . is before 1 in ascii so it should be sorting correctly now |
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sleekodie |
newbie here |
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sleekodie |
smile |
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sleekodie |
how to force koha to refresh marc recoreds .... |
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sleekodie |
how to add more MARC servers to koha's lookup list |
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chris |
ahh you need the manual |
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sleekodie |
I just imported 4300 some books into koha but discovered that it's missing a lot of informaiton .....how to best force koha to update the MARC records |
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sleekodie |
like we read the manuals? :) |
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chris |
http://new.koha.org/documentat[…]rs/z39.50-servers |
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sleekodie |
that's a start |
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sleekodie |
can you tell me how does koha update existing reocrds? |
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chris |
yep 2 secs |
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chris |
http://new.koha.org/documentat[…]ecords-for-import |
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chris |
you can choose to look for duplicates, and choose what to do when you find one, replace it etc |
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chris |
(this if for doing bulk updates) |
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chris |
manual updates you just edit the record |
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sleekodie |
the books are in the catalog ...so they're already imported |
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chris |
right |
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chris |
but you said missing lots? |
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sleekodie |
yes |
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chris |
well you have 2 options then, go through editing them all |
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chris |
or replace them with records that are more complete |
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chris |
using the import tool |
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sleekodie |
i'd obviously prefer the bulk update route :) |
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sleekodie |
let me rephrase to make sure I understood you correctly |
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sleekodie |
Ive uploaded a file to stage for import |
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sleekodie |
it has some MARC info |
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sleekodie |
but i want to add more, pulling missing data from the various MARC servers |
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chris |
yeah you cant do that |
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sleekodie |
I can't? bummer |
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chris |
you can create a better record |
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chris |
and upload it using the stage marc records tool, and tell it to replace any duplicates |
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chris |
http://new.koha.org/documentat[…]ecords-for-import |
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chris |
but currently there is no way to say, make me a better record from these servers |
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chris |
if someone wanted to sponsor development for that, im sure they could find developers to do it :-) |
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chris |
biblios might be able to do something like that, im not sure |
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chris |
http://biblios.org/ |
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chris |
you can integrate that with koha |
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sleekodie |
ok.....I'll chew on those 2 documents links and figure out how we can query other MARC servers to pull more info to replace |
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pianohacker |
sleekodie: Note that while editing an individual record, you can completely replace that record's information with one from a Z39.50 search |
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chris |
cool good luck, if you find a good way to do it |
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chris |
writing it up on wiki.koha.org would be fantastic |
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sleekodie |
throwing something out to ponder ...shoot me if it's unworkable .... |
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sleekodie |
(not physically shoot me, mind you) |
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sleekodie |
:) |
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sleekodie |
suppose I export the MARC records I have in koha and send that file to biblios, will I get more info back from them in a file ? |
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chris |
biblios is a tool .. unless you mean biblio.net ? |
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chris |
biblios.net even |
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chris |
either way the answer is, i dont know |
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sleekodie |
if i stage and replace existing records ....will it leave the 952 (Koha) stuff alone or would that info be gone? |
