Time  Nick        Message
23:59 sleekodie   if i stage and replace existing records ....will it leave the 952 (Koha) stuff alone or would that info be gone?
23:57 chris       either way the answer is, i dont know
23:56 chris       biblios.net even
23:56 chris       biblios is a tool .. unless you mean biblio.net ?
23:55 sleekodie   suppose I export the MARC records I have in koha and send that file to biblios, will I get more info back from them in a file ?
23:55 sleekodie   :)
23:54 sleekodie   (not physically shoot me, mind you)
23:54 sleekodie   throwing something out to ponder ...shoot me if it's unworkable ....
23:53 chris       writing it up on wiki.koha.org would be fantastic
23:53 chris       cool good luck, if you find a good way to do it
23:53 pianohacker sleekodie: Note that while editing an individual record, you can completely replace that record's information with one from a Z39.50 search
23:49 sleekodie   ok.....I'll chew on those 2 documents links and figure out how we can query other MARC servers to pull more info to replace
23:49 chris       you can integrate that with koha
23:49 chris       http://biblios.org/
23:48 chris       biblios might be able to do something like that, im not sure
23:48 chris       if someone wanted to sponsor development for that, im sure they could find developers to do it :-)
23:48 chris       but currently there is no way to say, make me a better record from these servers
23:47 chris       http://new.koha.org/documentation/manual/3.0/tools/stage-marc-records-for-import
23:47 chris       and upload it using the stage marc records tool, and tell it to replace any duplicates
23:47 chris       you can create a better record
23:46 sleekodie   I  can't?   bummer
23:46 chris       yeah you cant do that
23:46 sleekodie   but i want to add more, pulling missing data from the various MARC servers
23:46 sleekodie   it has some MARC info
23:45 sleekodie   Ive uploaded a file to stage for import
23:45 sleekodie   let me rephrase to make sure I understood you correctly
23:45 sleekodie   i'd obviously prefer the bulk update route   :)
23:44 chris       using the import tool
23:44 chris       or replace them with records that are more complete
23:44 chris       well you have 2 options then, go through editing them all
23:44 sleekodie   yes
23:44 chris       but you said missing lots?
23:43 chris       right
23:43 sleekodie   the books are in the catalog ...so they're already imported
23:43 chris       manual updates you just edit the record
23:43 chris       (this if for doing bulk updates)
23:43 chris       you can choose to look for duplicates, and choose what to do when you find one, replace it etc
23:42 chris       http://new.koha.org/documentation/manual/3.0/tools/stage-marc-records-for-import
23:41 chris       yep 2 secs
23:41 sleekodie   can you tell me how does koha update existing reocrds?
23:40 sleekodie   that's a start
23:38 chris       http://new.koha.org/documentation/manual/3.0/administration/additional-parameters/z39.50-servers
23:38 sleekodie   like we read the manuals?  :)
23:38 sleekodie   I just imported 4300 some books into koha but discovered that it's missing a lot of informaiton .....how to best force koha to update the MARC records
23:38 chris       ahh you need the manual
23:37 sleekodie   how to add more MARC servers to koha's lookup list
23:36 sleekodie   how to force koha to refresh marc recoreds ....
23:36 sleekodie   smile
23:36 sleekodie   newbie here
23:25 chris       well . is before 1 in ascii so it should be sorting correctly now
23:24 CGI092      any updates to fix solution?
23:24 CGI092      afraid of that, here goes 12 hours of reorganizing, thanks anyway..
23:23 sleekodie   I'm back again   :)
23:23 chris       in that case, no, no easy solution
23:22 CGI092      yes
23:22 chris       you running from a git checkout eh?
23:22 chris       ahh so none of the above
23:22 CGI092      3.01.00.032
23:21 chris       3.0.0 or .1 .2 or .3?
23:21 CGI092       3.0
23:20 chris       what version of koha?
23:19 CGI092      e174.5 before e.174
23:18 chris       out of order in what way?
23:18 pianohacker Generally, you can expect to wait more than 37 seconds for a response, yes
23:18 CGI092      ?
23:18 CGI092      talking to myself
23:17 CGI092      Fixing bugs in my librarys database, call numbers are out of order, no easy solution?
22:31 chris       she will be very excited about the moveitem script
22:30 * chris     wonders if Jo is about?
22:30 chris       cool
22:29 chris       http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RIS_%28file_format%29 <-- that eh?
22:29 chris       ohh
22:29 chris       hm whats RIS
22:25 chris       and then i should update INSTALL.debian-lenny for a start
22:25 chris       will do more this evening, will send a patch for C4::Context and hopefully for the marc stuff too
22:23 chris       heh
22:21 * gmcharlt  tosses a wooden nickel towards chris to get him to stick with it ;)
22:20 chris       but now i better do some paid work
22:20 chris       ill do a bit more trying to get circ a bit faster, then will look at that
22:20 chris       *nod*
22:19 gmcharlt    for your next trick, I suggest poking at the code that grabs the MARC framework definitions
22:19 gmcharlt    yep
22:19 chris       take all that xml parsing out of the way
22:19 chris       i think we have found our next win _common_config in C4::Context
22:18 chris       http://profiles.workbuffer.org/circ-circulation-config-cache/
22:18 chris       vs
22:18 chris       http://profiles.workbuffer.org/circ-circulation/
22:18 gmcharlt    chris: what's up?
22:18 chris       gmcharlt: got a sec?
21:50 gmcharlt    hdl_laptop: for subsequent groups, if you could do -n when you run format-patch, would help
21:50 hdl_laptop  I hope I won't be loosing anything
21:50 hdl_laptop  hehe gmcharlt I am grouping them
21:49 hdl_laptop  + have to send bugfixes on new_acq
21:49 gmcharlt    k - if you said 200, I was going to suggest a different transmission mechanism ;)
21:49 hdl_laptop  still have to make some more (between 5 and 10)
21:48 gmcharlt    hdl_laptop: about how many of them will there be?
21:47 gmcharlt    hdl_laptop: they're coming trhough
21:47 hdl_laptop  hoping you receive them
21:47 hdl_laptop  gmcharlt: sending biblibre patches over master
20:44 |Lupin|     bye chris and all
20:44 |Lupin|     or day
20:44 |Lupin|     good night every body
20:37 chris       back
20:34 richard     hi
20:31 chris_n     great, tnx
20:31 hdl_laptop  yes
20:30 chris_n     hdl_laptop: so they should show up in the next 3.0.x release?
20:29 hdl_laptop  http://git.koha.org/cgi-bin/gitweb.cgi?p=koha-maintenance.git&a=search&h=reconciliation&st=commit&s=3390
20:29 hdl_laptop  chris_n those patches are already on reconciliation :
20:24 munin       04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3390 major, PATCH-Sent, ---, cnighswonger@foundations.edu, CLOSED FIXED, PDFs w/barcodes not displaying properly in Adobe Reader >v7.0
20:24 chris_n     hdl_laptop: I'm speaking of bug 3390 patches
20:20 hdl_laptop  But I should publicize those patches on 3.0.3 also
20:19 hdl_laptop  chris_n : next 3.0 version should be reconciliation version and Amazon WS patches are on this branch
19:55 chris       ack bus time
19:54 chris       heya schuster :) all recovered from disneyland?
19:54 schuster    See you tomorrow.
19:52 schuster    Mainly 2 people.
19:51 chris       hmm busy irc day
19:13 sleekodie   chris_n ...did u see my private msg?
19:11 chris_n     np... I imagine your issues are user/permission issue though
19:10 sleekodie   that msg was meant for Chris_n
19:10 sleekodie   hris ...I'm behind on some other things ...my peer talked with the boss and we're putting this on the back burner for now
19:06 sleekodie   librarian owns that
19:06 sleekodie   i'ts in /var/run/koha ..and the user is NOT root
19:03 chris_n     it should probably not be root
19:02 chris_n     ls -l /var/run/zebradb
19:02 sleekodie   i think it's root ..how to best check?   lsown?
19:01 chris_n     it should be your koha user
19:01 chris_n     who owns /var/run/zebradb ?
18:59 sleekodie   sigh ....
18:59 sleekodie   still not finding the book in the catalog .....
18:59 chris_n     zebras are not easily managed creatures... ;-)
18:58 chris_n     right
18:58 sleekodie   so that means ...i have to fix the daemon and the user accounts
18:58 sleekodie   (I su'd as root and rebuilt
18:57 chris_n     write permissions that is
18:56 chris_n     be sure that the user zebra is running has has file permissions on the index file(s)
18:56 sleekodie   when rebuilding the index ...i get permissions denied
18:53 sleekodie   let me add the user to the koha group so that update will work
18:53 sleekodie   bingo ...i had to su as the user
18:52 chris_n     groupadd
18:51 chris_n     'update-rc.d koha-zebra-daemon defaults' will get zebra setup to start on system start
18:51 sleekodie   trying to remember how to add user to group via command line
18:50 chris_n     then try starting it
18:50 chris_n     su koha
18:50 sleekodie   user is not in koha group
18:50 sleekodie   invalid user .......sheez
18:50 sleekodie   aha .....
18:49 chris_n     to be sure the zebra really runs
18:49 chris_n     after ps -ef | grep zebra
18:49 chris_n     then run rebuild-zebra.pl again
18:49 sleekodie   that's where it is
18:48 chris_n     assuming that's where koha-zebra-daemon is
18:48 chris_n     sleekodie: /etc/init.d/koha-zebra-daemon start
18:45 sleekodie   I see a symlink  ..koha-zebra-daemon points to /usr/share/koha/bin/koha-zebra-ctl.sh
18:45 sleekodie   hmmm...
18:43 sleekodie   looking
18:42 gmcharlt    sleekodie: there should be an /etc/init.d/koha-zebra-ctl.sh or the like
18:41 sleekodie   hmmmm.....
18:41 sleekodie   seems not to find the zebrasrv
18:41 chris_n     that causes borking
18:41 gmcharlt    chris_n: could be, although that shouldn't prevent basic bib search from working
18:40 chris_n     gmcharlt: I wonder if the branchcode for the imported records is non-existent?
18:40 chris_n     branchcode
18:40 chris_n     ok
18:39 Ropuch      hidelostitems on maybe?
18:39 gmcharlt    ps -ef | grep zebrasrv
18:39 sleekodie   how to test?
18:39 sleekodie   it should be ....
18:39 gmcharlt    sleekodie: another question  - is zebrasrv running?
18:38 sleekodie   no errors
18:37 chris_n     -v++
18:37 sleekodie   it spewed   :)
18:37 sleekodie   still reading log .....
18:37 sleekodie   (23 have 2 batches of staged imports ...one with 14 and the other with 6 should it should be 20
18:37 chris_n     no errors?
18:36 sleekodie   22
18:36 chris_n     how many records did it process and were there any errors?
18:35 sleekodie   now trying b r v
18:35 sleekodie   i did a rebuild with the b and z options
18:34 chris_n     do 'rebuild_zebra.pl -b -r -v'
18:34 sleekodie   when the import was staged ...it showed as imported
18:34 chris_n     hrm
18:33 sleekodie   i search the catalog and I get nothing found (via OPAC) but I find it in Biblios in reservoir
18:33 * chris_n   seems to remember that the batch remains in the reservoir even after committing
18:31 chris_n     sleekodie: can you do a catalog search and obtain results?
18:26 sleekodie   the books are still in resevouior
18:24 sleekodie   got a warning message .....ignoring it since it's not error
18:19 sleekodie   now re-starting my fix
18:19 sleekodie   that was the case gmchatlt ...I got interrupted in the middle of trying to fix that ...hence the long silence ...
17:49 gmcharlt    most likely, the correct value for you is /etc/koha/koha-conf.xml
17:49 gmcharlt    env | grep KOHA_CONF
17:49 sleekodie   Can't connect to data source 'dbname=__DB_NAME__;host=__DB_HOST__;port=__DB_PORT__' because I can't work out what driver to use (it doesn't seem to contain a 'dbi:driver:' prefix and the DBI_DRIVER env var is not set) at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Context.pm line 666
17:49 sleekodie   i think I'm pointing to the wron conf.XML as I get this Use of uninitialized value $db_driver in concatenation (.) or string at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Context.pm line 666.
17:47 gmcharlt    ah, should be /usr/share/koha/lib
17:47 sleekodie   PERL5LIB=/usr/share/koha/lib/C4
17:44 gmcharlt    env | grep PERL5LIB
17:44 gmcharlt    what do you get when you run
17:43 sleekodie   still complains ab out C4
17:25 sleekodie   trying that ...
17:24 gmcharlt    export KOHA_CONF=/path/to/active/koha-conf.xml
17:24 gmcharlt    export PERL5LIB=/path/to/directory/containing/C4
17:23 gmcharlt    sleekodie: you need to set two enviroment variables to run stuff from the command line
17:20 sleekodie   rebuild returns error ...line 5  C4::context.pm can not be found
17:11 gmcharlt    run rebuild_zebra.pl -b -z
17:11 gmcharlt    from the command line
17:10 sleekodie   is there a way to force a reindex?
17:09 gmcharlt    sleekodie: then it's already committed, so only thing lack may be indexing
17:09 sleekodie   all we see is "undo import from catalog"
17:08 gmcharlt    sleekodie: go to 'manage stage imports', then commit the batch
17:07 sleekodie   now how to move from resoviour to catalog?
17:07 sleekodie   gen'd labels for those
17:07 sleekodie   we've staged 14 records
17:07 sleekodie   stilly question
17:06 chris_n     hdl_laptop: you might want to apply those patches to 3.0.x at some point
17:06 munin       chris_n: I've exhausted my database of quotes
17:06 chris_n     @later
17:05 chris_n     sleekodie: the fixes for that have not made it to 3.0.3 yet apparently
17:02 tomascohen  thnaks!
17:02 gmcharlt    tomascohen: yes, it should
17:01 schuster    3419 - bug - export from reports only exports first 10000- not sure who put this limitation in, but I don't like it.  Didn't have that problem before the feature to edit the SQL...  Any hints on fixing it?
17:00 tomascohen  you mean it will work with koha v3.0.3 ?
17:00 gmcharlt    ah, OK - latest version of MARC::File::XML should be OK
17:00 tomascohen  i now have to install new kohas for several libraries
17:00 tomascohen  because of the MARC::File::XML version issue
16:59 tomascohen  i did some upgrades to cpan libraries in a 3.0.3 install and had some troubles
16:59 gmcharlt    but depending on your platform, may be easier to install the Perl module packages maintained by your distribution of choice
16:59 gmcharlt    tomascohen: i.e., it will likely work with latest CPAN versions of dependent libraries
16:58 gmcharlt    tomascohen: should be - I'm not actually sure what you're asking
16:58 tomascohen  hi gmcharlt, is it posible to install latest stable release of koha with latest libraries from CPAN?
16:57 sleekodie   using reader 9.1.3
16:56 * chris_n   seems to remember some discussion about making the bulk marc importer behave better with corrupt records
16:55 chris_n     you can verify this by viewing in adobe reader ver 7.0 or less
16:55 sleekodie   let me see if I can view it ...
16:54 chris_n     you must have a version before the bugfix for later versions of adobe reader, hence the barcodes not showing in the viewer
16:53 chris_n     k
16:52 sleekodie   so that  means there is a corrupt record in the import file
16:51 sleekodie   (go figure)
16:51 sleekodie   viewed the pdf ...it didn't show the barcode ..but when printed ..it prints
16:51 sleekodie   and gen the labels ...it did generate that successfully
16:51 sleekodie   we cleared out the database ....and imported/staged the small batch of 6 books
16:50 sleekodie   chris n  koha 3.00.03 (system reports 3.00.02 12something
16:48 chris_n     sleekodie: what version of koha are you using?
16:47 sleekodie   shouldn't the id auto increment?
16:47 sleekodie   we get message back "label batch created with id 1 each time
16:47 sleekodie   we're now unable to generate labels for those batches
16:46 gmcharlt    sleekodie: /msg nick super-secret message
16:46 sleekodie   chris_n ...we imported 2 smaller batches of b ooks (6 books each) and
16:46 sleekodie   (refresh my IRC memory ..how to send a private msg) ?
16:40 kf          bye #koha
16:34 joetho      "Damaged- In Processing"
16:34 MickeyC     like that possibility
16:34 MickeyC     that's good
16:33 joetho      *damaged
16:33 joetho      whoops
16:33 joetho      or even better, add another value to not4loan and call THAT "damnaged"
16:31 joetho      or add another value to damaged and name it something meaner. "Damaged- in repair" even though that is just a phrase. It would still work the same.
16:31 pianohacker np
16:31 MickeyC     thanks
16:31 MickeyC     i think for now the NFL could be the solution
16:30 MickeyC     no, not as easy to change coll code as status
16:29 pianohacker How about a notforloan status?
16:29 pianohacker But that's such a hack
16:29 joetho      as long as you're changing something, why not change the collection code instead of the damaged status? It would be just as easy.
16:28 MickeyC     Pref setting is acceptable, but that' development work and who know when that will happen
16:27 MickeyC     Now for the problem: Setting the status to damaged does not keep the item from appearing on the pick list. Is this a bug that is going to be fixed or do we need to come up with a different method of handling our damaged items? Any help would be appreciated.
16:27 MickeyC     Here's what our member lib wrote: When we have an item that is damaged, we change the status to "damaged" and give to the appropriate department head so they can determine whether to keep, repair, replace or delete.
16:26 joetho      then why would a damaged book NOT circulate? Use a "Doesn't Circulate" collection code.
16:26 sleekodie   MickeyC ...guess Koha interprets "damaged" more literally than we do
16:25 MickeyC     mmm
16:25 joetho      mc: this should be a preference. No doubt.
16:25 MickeyC     um, no point in using damaged for bent pages
16:25 chris_n     pianohacker: since when was the search for food a logical thing... ;-)
16:25 chris_n     sleekodie: let me know what turns up... I'll read back when I get back
16:24 sleekodie   told the guy to chop the export from L4U after 5 records ...stage that into Koha and then try the labels with that
16:24 joetho      mc: or if the library is using "damaged" for something minor. Bent pages.
16:24 pianohacker I think looking for food -> popping popcorn is not necessarily a logical progression...
16:24 MickeyC     that's the problem
16:24 MickeyC     if damaged = send to repair, then shouldn't show up on holds pick lists
16:24 sleekodie   chris_N ..thanks ....
16:24 chris_n     off to pop popcorn...bbiab
16:24 joetho      mc: If the lib is using "damaged" as "in repair".  If it is too damaged to circulate, that is another story.
16:22 joetho      yaaaaaay to the creator of the label creator!
16:22 MickeyC     under what circumstances is reasonable, for my info?
16:21 chris_n     sleekodie: btw, the label creator is getting a major overhaul code-wise with some nice improvements in work-flow
16:21 gmcharlt    and likewise
16:21 gmcharlt    hi MickeyC
16:21 MickeyC     nice to see you!
16:21 MickeyC     hi galen
16:21 gmcharlt    MickeyC: can be reasonable for staff to want to place hold requests on damaged items
16:21 joetho      what you said.
16:21 MickeyC     placing holds on damaged items is not a reasonable functionality imo but somebody out there wants it ergo koha = preference
16:20 joetho      MC: fix bug if it's a bug, and make it a yes/no preference. That makes sense to me.
16:20 sleekodie   (barcode update:  I have my peer looking into that record on his laptop ..will update you once he finds that record)
16:20 MickeyC     yes it's odd
16:19 MickeyC     we're getting reports in our install of libs having DAMAGED items turn up on their holds pick list. This might actually be a holds issue rather than a damaged status issue
16:19 pianohacker That's odd. Why wouldn't you just place a record hold?
16:19 munin       04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3460 normal, P3, ---, gmcharlt@gmail.com, NEW, Hold options inconsistent for "Damaged" items
16:19 MickeyC     piano: Bug 3460 seems to indicate that some libs WANT to place holds on damaged items
16:18 sleekodie   it's a record with a missing barcode
16:18 sleekodie   think we found it ....
16:17 chris_n     sleekodie: try a batch with a single item in it... it may simply be a corrupted record as pianohacker suggests
16:16 joetho      fourteen people like this
16:16 joetho      ;)
16:16 MickeyC     s'always just me
16:16 sleekodie   how to find which record is corrupted?
16:16 MickeyC     :(
16:16 sleekodie   piano ...i was trying to make labels
16:16 pianohacker Can you view all of the records you're trying to print?
16:15 joetho      Mickey: no reports of that here, but I will test it along with some other stuff I am working on. Maybe it's just you.
16:14 pianohacker sleekodie: Hmm. That looks like a corrupted record error at first glance
16:14 sleekodie   <pre><code>Can't call method &quot;field&quot; on an undefined value at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Labels.pm line 846.
16:14 sleekodie   <p>The following fatal error has occurred:</p>
16:14 sleekodie   <h1>Koha error</h1>
16:14 sleekodie   the label batch threw an webpage error into the pdf
16:14 pianohacker Bug
16:14 MickeyC     Your opinion.
16:14 MickeyC     Preference, or bug?
16:14 MickeyC     I think it should
16:14 MickeyC     it apparently does not behave like Lost, and prevent Holds in catalog
16:13 MickeyC     question for any about Damaged item status
16:13 paul_p      joetho: they are not morning ppl, or it's not morning for them ;-) (for us, in Europe, it's 6PM, not really a time for a morning man :D )
16:13 MickeyC     yes, she's on board and working hard
16:13 joetho      has Brenda started yet?
16:13 joetho      OK
16:12 joetho      no news here at all
16:12 MickeyC     nyet
16:12 joetho      any news on our merge thing?
16:12 MickeyC     hey jo
16:12 joetho      Mickey
16:12 chris_n     hehe
16:12 joetho      and today IS monday...
16:12 joetho      I'm just sayin.
16:11 joetho      also.... the interface is going to be very similar to connecting to Evergreen.
16:11 pianohacker atz is currently on holiday from IRC, won't be back for a while
16:11 sleekodie   re PDF ...I have the file open in a exit editor
16:11 sleekodie   (re LDAP -- will do)  I will also post on the mail list
16:10 joetho      sleekodie: try this again later. I seem to remember some developers discussing LDAP interfaces on here the other day, and maybe they just aren't morning people.
16:09 pianohacker k
16:08 chris_n     pianohacker: it turned on compression in pdfs and did not make it into 3.0.3 afaict
16:07 chris_n     open the pdf file in a text editor and post the error code
16:07 pianohacker I think chris_n sent a change to the pdf generation code. Did that make it into 3.0.3 ?
16:07 chris_n     hrm
16:06 sleekodie   the pdf file is damaged and could not be repaired
16:06 sleekodie   back to the barcode topic
16:06 * chris_n   heads off in search of food...
16:05 chris_n     great minds think alike
16:05 pianohacker sleekodie: That might also be a good list question, since there are others who've had the same problem
16:05 chris_n     you'll most likely need to post to the mailing list as he's not been about lately
16:04 pianohacker for now
16:04 pianohacker No, the piano is safe...
16:04 chris_n     sleekodie: atz is the guru on that one
16:04 sleekodie   Hi Pianohacker ...oyu're not hacking a piano today, aren't you?  :)
16:04 * chris_n   runs away... fast ;-)
16:04 sleekodie   anyone here an expert or have experience in Windows Server 2003 Active Directory/LDAP integration with Koha?
16:03 * chris_n   greets pianohacker
16:03 chris_n     sleekodie: what's your other question?
16:02 * chris_n   lives in label land these months
16:02 chris_n     sleekodie: np glad to help
16:02 chris_n     WvdV: sorry, I'm not a search guru, but there are several here so give it a bit
16:01 sleekodie   I do have another question unrelated to the barcode but a fun one
16:01 sleekodie   chris ...and the rest of the gang ...thanks so much for your help ...you can go ahead and assist Wvd's question
16:00 sleekodie   further along than before
16:00 sleekodie   it's processing
15:59 sleekodie   progress!
15:59 sleekodie   lol........
15:59 chris_n     modern even
15:59 chris_n     the marvels of moder communications :-)
15:58 sleekodie   ok ...hang on ...yelling across the room   :)
15:58 chris_n     just retry the label batch
15:58 chris_n     no
15:58 sleekodie   restart the box?
15:58 sleekodie   done
15:57 chris_n     k
15:57 sleekodie   will let u know when done
15:57 sleekodie   installing now ......
15:55 WvdV        or Hi, is it easy to understand why an advanced search on language doesn't seem to work, despite having filled in things like =041  \\$aeng ? On keyword 'fre' it finds the french texts, as well as titles such as 'Freedom' and authors like 'Freeman'. But a search on the language 'fre' or 'french' doesn't give the texts written in french.
15:55 chris_n     libpdf-reuse-pdf should be libpdf-reuse-perl
15:54 sleekodie   ok ...doing those 2 installs now ...
15:54 sleekodie   (lol at joetho)
15:53 joetho      zippy the pinhead is running loose in my OFFICE!
15:53 sleekodie   can't find Barcode::Code128 -- can't produce those barcodes
15:52 chris_n     also libpdf-reuse-pdf if it is not already installed
15:52 chris_n     ie 'apt-get install libpdf-reuse-barcode-perl'
15:51 * chris_n   thinks it might be easier to use the package maintainer's versions
15:51 chris_n     and see what it says
15:51 chris_n     then 'make test'
15:51 chris_n     you can try 'cd .cpan/build/ PDF-Reuse-Barcode-0.05-8v9juv'
15:50 sleekodie   the other 2 are from the GD-Barcode-1.15
15:50 sleekodie   root .cpan build PDF-Reuse-Barcode-0.05-8v9juv/Barcode.pm
15:49 sleekodie   root .cpan build PDF-Reuse-Barcode-0.05-8v9juv blib lib PDF Reuse Barcode.pm
15:49 chris_n     k
15:49 sleekodie   (the spaces are supposed to be slashes)
15:48 sleekodie   usr local share perl 5.10.0 GD Barcode.pm
15:47 sleekodie   let me hand type the find output here  ok?
15:47 sleekodie   no
15:47 chris_n     did cpan report any errors when you installed the module?
15:46 chris_n     it does not appear to have installed
15:46 sleekodie   hawklibrary:/# find / -name 'Barcode.pm'
15:45 sleekodie   but it's in /root/build folder?
15:45 sleekodie   it did
15:45 chris_n     http://pastebin.com/
15:45 chris_n     so find did not return anything like 'Reuse/Barcode.pm' ?
15:44 sleekodie   (it's not letting me paste the output here) -- I mean I can paste it here but can't send it
15:44 jwagner     schuster, I think the blog you're wanting is at http://www.myacpl.org/koha/ for Owen.
15:44 chris_n     ?
15:43 sleekodie   (it's not letting me)
15:42 sleekodie   here's the complete output
15:42 sleekodie   I didn't give the box a chance to finish ...
15:41 chris_n     that's part of the GD module, we're looking for Reuse/Barcode.pm
15:41 sleekodie   I'm logged in as root so no need for sudo here
15:40 chris_n     sleekodie: try 'sudo updatedb && locate Barcode.pm
15:40 sleekodie   the find returned this:   /usr/local/share/perl/5.10.0/GD/Barcode.pm
15:40 sleekodie   (that shud be helpful for a newbie here)
15:40 sleekodie   :)
15:39 schuster    I'm trying to find his blog with all his handy tips for customization!
15:39 sleekodie   side question ...how do I view the @INC to make sure the path is there
15:39 schuster    Owen here?
15:38 sleekodie   hold on ...let me reissue the find
15:37 nahuel      sleekodie, find is case sensitive
15:37 jdavidb     That should be fine, if Barcode.pm landed in there.
15:37 sleekodie   speaking of find ...i did that starting from the / and it didn't find it ...however ....if i go to the /usr/share/koha/lib folder ..the PDF/Reuse folder is there
15:36 jdavidb     (or a subdir of one of them.
15:36 jdavidb     I'm thinking it's a blown-path problem, maybe.  Might do a find / -name Barcode.pm from some rooty account, and see that it is in fact in one of the @INC directories.
15:35 nahuel      did you verify where it was installed ?
15:35 sleekodie   i restarted the box (whole thing)
15:35 nahuel      sleekodie, no
15:35 nahuel      did you restart apache ?
15:35 sleekodie   do I have to remake Koha?
15:35 nahuel      hmmm
15:35 jdavidb     sez he's done that, nahuel.
15:35 sleekodie   just did about 10 (now about 15 mins) ago
15:34 nahuel      :)
15:34 nahuel      sleekodie, you need to install the cpan module : PDF::Reuse::Barcode
15:34 sleekodie   anyone else seen that error message?
15:33 sleekodie   Perl	5.010000
15:33 sleekodie   OS	Linux hawklibrary 2.6.30-1-686 #1 SMP Thu Jul 30 14:45:30 UTC 2009 i686
15:33 sleekodie   MySQL	mysql Ver 14.12 Distrib 5.0.84, for debian-linux-gnu (i486) using readline 5.2
15:33 sleekodie   Koha DB	3.0002012
15:33 sleekodie   Koha	3.00.02.012
15:33 sleekodie   Apache	Server version: Apache/2.2.11 (Debian) Server built: Jul 10 2009 20:47:41
15:33 sleekodie   BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /usr/share/koha/intranet/cgi-bin/labels/label-print-pdf.pl line 14.
15:33 sleekodie   Can't locate PDF/Reuse/Barcode.pm in @INC (@INC contains: /usr/share/koha/lib /etc/perl /usr/local/lib/perl/5.10.0 /usr/local/share/perl/5.10.0 /usr/lib/perl5 /usr/share/perl5 /usr/lib/perl/5.10 /usr/share/perl/5.10 /usr/local/lib/site_perl .) at /usr/share/koha/intranet/cgi-bin/labels/label-print-pdf.pl line 14.
15:33 sleekodie   The following fatal error has occurred:
15:33 sleekodie   Koha error
15:33 sleekodie   here goes
15:33 sleekodie   smile ...
15:33 jdavidb     It might be helpful to someone...I'm a little out-of-territory here, but it might spark something.
15:32 sleekodie   do u want me to paste the full text of the error message here?
15:31 jdavidb     hrm.
15:31 sleekodie   just did about 10 mins ago
15:31 sleekodie   line 14 of label-print-pdf.pl
15:31 jdavidb     Sounds like a CPAN module is missing.  Just a shot in the dark here, but I'd say if you force installed PDF::Reuse::Barcode, that might clear it up.
15:31 sleekodie   in the path
15:30 sleekodie   we get an error message:   can't find PDF/Reuse/Barcode ....
15:30 sleekodie   migrating from L4U and we're having trouble generating barcode
15:29 sleekodie   I'm running Koha 3.00.03 on a Debian Lenny
15:29 sleekodie   good ....
15:29 jdavidb     Likely so.  Lots of very helpful folk here today.
15:28 sleekodie   geez ...hoping I can get some Koha help here today
15:28 jdavidb     We're all very well-defined figments of your imagination.
15:28 |Lupin|     back !
15:28 sleekodie   ha ha
15:28 jdavidb     Nope.
15:28 sleekodie   ?
15:28 sleekodie   is there anyone in here
15:27 sleekodie   Greetings
14:44 nahuel      ok I will do it :p
14:43 gmcharlt    yes - I'll push it, but I would still really appreciate it if code were also presented that actually *used* it
14:43 munin       04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3370 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, nahuel.angelinetti@biblibre.com, ASSIGNED, Add the support of a Get Method on biblio records
14:43 nahuel      gmcharlt, about bug #3370
14:43 |Lupin|     k, time for doing some shopping, see you later guys
14:43 nahuel      gmcharlt, did you see my mail about the "Get" function ?
14:42 nahuel      cool
14:42 gmcharlt    nahuel: yes
14:42 nahuel      gmcharlt, around ?
14:38 |Lupin|     Kivutar: sure, I'll do so one of these days. NO time now but I'd really like to talk to you and perhaps show you the site I have started to build so that you can look and perhaps do some suggestions to improve the graphical design
14:37 |Lupin|     hdl_laptop: ok thanks for the information !
14:30 hdl_laptop  + it can be hooked with solr
14:30 hdl_laptop  + it is already used in more and more US libraries
14:29 hdl_laptop  paul_p: Drupal really seems  to provide the best code base and the more flexible in terms of additional features
14:29 Kivutar     |Lupin|: feel free to bug me :)
14:28 |Lupin|     paul_p: ok ! thanks !! I'll bug nicomo & kivutar one of these days :-)
14:27 paul_p      mmm... we hesiteted between joomla and drupal. Can't remember why we have choosen Drupal, but I remember we hesitated a lot !
14:26 |Lupin|     paul_p: just one last thing... did you consider other CMSs such as Joomla ? If yes, do you know why drupal has been chosen rather than another one ?
14:25 |Lupin|     paul_p: ok
14:25 paul_p      (the only pain is to upgrade drupal and modules, on multiple hosted sites if i'm not mistaken. otherwise, it's really nice, powerful & easy to setup
14:25 paul_p      very. But for more details, ask nicomo ;-)
14:24 |Lupin|     paul_p: globally, you are satisfied with it ?
14:22 |           paul_p: e.g. I'm wondering what themes modules you use, and also I'm lookng for suggestions regarding the visual design since it's something difficult to master for me
14:21 paul_p      so, it's better to ask nicomo I think
14:21 |           paul_p: no precise question atm, I was just wondering because I'm just building a site using it (got the idea of using drupal because biblibre uses it)
14:20 again       :P
14:20 again       I guess I ws just saying hello to myself
14:20 |Lupin|     paul_p: ah I just understood your joke about again :)
14:19 paul_p      what kind of question do you want to ask ? it can be nicomo (functionnal pov) or Kivutar (technical questions)
14:19 |Lupin|     paul_p: 96 is not bas :)
14:19 paul_p      (you were 96th)
14:19 |Lupin|     paul_p: I was wondering who is your local Drupal expert at biblibre ?
14:19 |Lupin|     paul_p: too bad ! :-)
14:15 paul_p      again ? who is "again" ? Anyway, Hi |Lupin| You missed to be the 100th commiter from short !
14:12 |Lupin|     hi again
13:26 |Lupin|     hmm it seems they don't want to interrupt the power here...
13:13 jwagner     Welcome back paul_p
13:13 jdavidb     :)
13:12 munin       jwagner: Quote #27: "<jdavidb> ("A helicopter does not fly; it is a collection of quasi-unrelated parts moving in close formation, beating the sky into submission.")" (added by gmcharlt at 09:21 PM, August 22, 2009)
13:12 jwagner     @quote random
13:03 * chris_n   runs away babbling and gnawing his tongue
13:02 munin       jdavidb: Quote #1: "<pianohacker> resolve, rather, I doubt it needs lotion" (added by gmcharlt at 03:05 AM, May 31, 2009)
13:02 jdavidb     @quote random
13:02 * jdavidb   pokes munin with a stick.
13:01 munin       jdavidb: downloading the Perl source
13:01 jdavidb     Munin needs lots of things.  More good quotes, for one.  Where's wizzyrea when you need her?
13:01 chris_n     methinks munin needs to have a pun function
13:00 munin       chris_n: I'll give you the answer as soon as RDA is ready
13:00 chris_n     @pun
13:00 jdavidb     Ooo....
12:59 paul_p      hi to US ppl (i'm back today)
12:59 chris_n     chris->clone(ur_name_goes_here)
12:59 chris_n     :-)
12:58 chris_n     by |Lupin|
12:58 jchrisb     I'm joining the conspiracy!
12:58 |Lupin|     k, powerdown in one minute here so gotta go. bye all
12:58 |Lupin|     hey paul_p
12:58 |Lupin|     jdavidb: there is en equivalent expresson in french and perhaps also in other languages, so I e.g. could get the meaning with just a shallow parsing
12:57 jdavidb     Welcome back, paul_p!  How was the vacation?
12:57 chris_n     hi paul_p
12:57 paul_p      hi to US ppl (i'm back today)
12:56 jdavidb     (Apologies to non-native-English speakers there.  It's a pain for *me* to parse, and I wrote it.)
12:56 chris_n     gmcharlt++ for remembering the spelling
12:56 paul_p      what is strange is that the conspirators have choosen chris, and not john as 1st name...
12:56 chris_n     hehe
12:56 |Lupin|     :-)
12:55 jdavidb     Fear the conspiracy.  Just because you're not paranoid, doesn't mean they're not out to get you.
12:55 |Lupin|     :-))))
12:54 gmcharlt    it's a conspiracy, I tell you!
12:53 |Lupin|     ah there are two chris around !! didn't realise that
12:51 gmcharlt    |Lupin|: _n = Nighswonger, to distinguish him from chris (AKA Chris Cormack)
12:50 |Lupin|     chris_n: what does the _n mean ?
12:48 jdavidb     g'morning, chris_n.  :)
12:47 chris_n     g'morning || g'whatever-time-of-day
12:43 |Lupin|     gmcharlt: :)
12:41 gmcharlt    heh - good point
12:41 |Lupin|     gmcharlt: and, if it's possible, a clue about where this should be done would be helpful, cause what you just said does not speak much to me as a lynx user...
12:40 gmcharlt    |Lupin|: sure
12:40 |Lupin|     gmcharlt: would you accept to add this and the other places you can think about to the corresponding bug as a bug comment, please ?
12:39 gmcharlt    |Lupin|: the member header, for one - i.e., the left-top area where the patron address is display for things like checkout, borrower account, etc.
12:38 |Lupin|     gmcharlt: like which places ?
12:38 |Lupin|     gmcharlt: ahah... :-)
12:37 gmcharlt    |Lupin|: don't worry, there's more work for you on that one - now that the country is stored, there are various places where it could be displayed
12:36 |Lupin|     gmcharlt: I'm sorry you had to fix the patch. Next time don't hesitate to ask me to do the fixups myself if that's more convenient for you
12:35 munin       04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3464 enhancement, P5, ---, Sebastien.Hinderer@snv.jussieu.fr, ASSIGNED, borrowers table should contain country information for libraries with international patron populations
12:35 |Lupin|     gmcharlt: many thanks for having accepted the patches re:Bug 3464
12:35 |Lupin|     hi gmcharlt
12:20 jwagner     Morning, gmcharlt
12:20 jdavidb     Hi, gmcharlt!
12:20 gmcharlt    hi jwagner, jdavidb
12:09 jwagner     Hi Amit
12:09 jdavidb     Hi, Amit. :)
12:09 Amit_Gupta  hi jwagner, jdavidb
11:11 chris       well there is chris_n too, we take turns :)
11:11 chris       heh
11:07 brendan     heya paul_p  - good vacation?
11:05 paul_p      ;)
11:05 paul_p      brendan: I suspect there are 2 chris, one leaving in NZ, and the clone leaving in US, as there is someone answering on #koha 24/7
11:04 brendan     heya amit
11:04 Amit_Gupta  heya brendan
11:04 brendan     you still awake or get woken up
11:03 brendan     yup  in NY
11:03 chris       hey brendan, in ny?
10:56 chris       that's great news
10:56 chris       very good
10:55 paul_p      we did some. Now tamil does, and maybe next year (or 2011), they'll publish a huge RFP for some devs
10:54 chris       biblibre is doing the koha work for them?
10:54 paul_p      but they have officially choosen Koha already
10:54 paul_p      the only problem being that the building is not yet builded ...
10:54 paul_p      something like 2 000 000 books
10:54 chris       very cool
10:54 paul_p      probably a lot of maori books ;-)
10:54 paul_p      it will have ALL universities books about "foreign languages"
10:54 chris       excellent
10:53 paul_p      chris: bulac is a VERY large library in Paris (well, will be a very large library)
10:53 chris       paul_p, or nicomo or hdl .. what is kohabulac?
10:26 gmcharlt    meep
10:25 paul_p      another minor but very annoying one yesterday : 850km driving, without conditionned air (broken)
10:19 gmcharlt    :/ returning to the real world can be hard
10:18 paul_p      quite good, but the return is hard... A lot of (minor) personal problems. Like my cell phone stolen, my 2nd car that don't want to start...
10:18 kf          Elven_Thief: thx for letting me know :)
10:18 gmcharlt    hi paul_p - how was your vacation?
10:17 Elven_Thief kf, it was zebra.  i had nuked the sql database for a fresh start and was successfully finding matches because i had not cleared the zebra
10:17 Amit_Gupta  hi paul_p ;)
10:16 kf          hi paul_p :)
10:16 paul_p      hello gmcharlt & Amit & kf
10:16 Amit_Gupta  hi mason
10:15 kf          hi gmcharlt
10:15 chris       cool
10:15 gmcharlt    chris: no, in Gainesville all this week
10:13 chris       morning gmcharlt, welcome to monday .... in atlanta ths week?
10:12 Amit_Gupta  hi galen
10:11 gmcharlt    hi Amit
10:11 hdl_laptop  hi gmcharlt
10:11 gmcharlt    hi hdl_laptop
09:48 Amit_Gupta  hi hdl
09:43 hdl_laptop  hi
09:36 kf          just ignore what I said
09:35 kf          I dont know
09:35 kf          hm but marc_xml is in sql - shouldnt it be the same?
09:34 kf          we have a matching rule for 001
09:34 kf          hm I would think zebra
09:30 Elven_Thief er, do the matching rules*
09:30 Elven_Thief when you're staging imports, does the matching rules compare from the sql database or the zebra database?
08:35 Amit_Gupta  hi paul
08:22 paul_p      hello chris
08:22 chris       hi paul_p
08:22 nathan1021  sorry wrong window
08:21 nathan1021  ls
08:21 Elven_Thief yeah. you'll probably want to check out zebra's docs to make sure it's properly installed
08:21 nathan1021  i got no zebrasrv in folders
08:21 paul_p      hello, i'm back from vacation. 2 weeks without internet
08:20 nathan1021  wooh.. that must be it
08:19 Elven_Thief see if that finds it somewhere.  if you successfully installed zebra, it should find it somewhere
08:18 Elven_Thief try: which zebrasrv
08:18 nathan1021  then build it individually
08:17 nathan1021  what i did was download the source for yaz and zebra from indexdata
08:15 Elven_Thief let's back up. is zebra installed?
08:14 nathan1021  the problem is that i didnt get a response
08:14 Elven_Thief that will probably work on fedora
08:14 Elven_Thief the syntax is different for every distro - ubuntu is /etc/init.d/servicename start
08:14 nathan1021  i have already run service koha-zebra-daemon start
08:13 Elven_Thief you will have to start the service
08:13 nathan1021  after that, should the zebra daemon automatically start, after i reboot the system?
08:12 Elven_Thief right
08:12 nathan1021  create a symbolic link
08:12 nathan1021  so far here are the things that i did
08:11 nathan1021  can you help me how to start zebra
08:11 nathan1021  i have no result such as those
08:10 Elven_Thief your milage may vary
08:09 Elven_Thief root     30239  0.0  0.0   7524   896 pts/1    S+   03:10   0:00 grep zebra
08:09 Elven_Thief koha     30237  2.8  0.7  94664  7164 ?        S    03:10   0:00 /usr/bin/zebrasrv -v none,fatal,warn -f /etc/koha/koha-conf.xml
08:09 Elven_Thief koha     30236  0.0  0.0  18012   572 ?        Ss   03:10   0:00 daemon --name=koha-zebra-ctl.koha --errlog=/var/log/koha/koha-zebradaemon.err --stdout=/var/log/koha/koha-zebradaemon.log --output=/var/log/koha/koha-zebradaemon-output.log --verbose=1 --respawn --delay=30 --user=koha koha -- /usr/bin/zebrasrv -v none,fatal,warn -f /etc/koha/koha-conf.xml
08:09 Elven_Thief ps aux | grep zebra
08:09 Elven_Thief sorry for the spam:
08:09 Elven_Thief your grep will only search for the name of the script. try grepping for daemon as well
08:08 nathan1021  i think zebra is not running
08:08 nathan1021  only 1 line shows
08:08 nathan1021  i have already run ps aux | grep koha-zebra-daemon
08:06 Elven_Thief ps aux | grep zebra
08:05 nathan1021  how do i check if zebra is running
08:05 nathan1021  hi..
07:50 kf          hi lupin :)
07:50 |Lupin|     hello kf
07:50 |Lupin|     hello chris
07:48 chris       hi |Lupin| and hdl_laptop
07:46 kf          using bulkauthimport.pl
07:46 kf          I think authorities can only be imported on command line
07:44 Elven_Thief if you're doing marc record imports into your system, you can do that or you can use the intranet pages to stage and import marc records
07:36 nathan1021  $ misc/migration-tools/bulkauthimport.pl -file /path/to/auth.iso2709 after installing koha??
07:36 nathan1021  Authority data in MARC21 format
07:36 nathan1021  $ misc/migration-tools/bulkmarcimport.pl -file /path/to/marc.iso2709
07:36 nathan1021  Bibliographic data in MARC21 format
07:36 nathan1021  do i have to Import:
07:32 hdl_laptop  hi all
07:27 |Lupin|     hi Amit
07:25 Amit_Gupta  hi hdl
07:25 Amit_Gupta  hi lupin
07:21 |Lupin|     hi there
07:18 kf          hi Amit
07:17 Elven_Thief i believe it's internal api that the website and all the fun tools use
07:17 Amit_Gupta  hi kf
07:15 Elven_Thief the C4 library
07:15 nathan1021  the PERL5LIB is the one containing the perl modules, right?
07:11 Elven_Thief i'm guessing that if you installed koha into that directory, you can use that
07:11 Elven_Thief in ubuntu: export PERL5LIB=/usr/share/koha/lib
07:11 Elven_Thief you have to set that to the directory you installed koha in
07:09 nathan1021  what is the value of PERL5LIB in fc10
07:09 nathan1021  anyways, just a newbie question...
06:59 * chris     has to go bathe his son, back in a bit
06:57 chris       crontab.example
06:57 chris       checkout out the example crontab in misc/cronjobs
06:56 chris       i wouldnt run it much less frequently than 10 mins
06:55 chris       it will show up as borrowed in circulation, or in the members screen etc
06:55 chris       in the search yes
06:54 nathan1021  correct me if im wrong, if i run rebuild_zebra.pl in every 60 min, that means a book could have already been borrowed few min ago, before it shows in the records, right?
06:53 kf          hi chris
06:52 Elven_Thief depends on how fast you want a record change to show up in your opac search
06:52 chris       whatever you want
06:52 nathan1021  in 5, 60 min?
06:51 nathan1021  ok... so how often do i have to run rebuild_zebra.pl
06:51 Elven_Thief nice
06:51 chris       the zebraqueue-daemon has been known to flip out and consume all cpu and ram
06:50 chris       rebuild_zebra.pl as a cron is definitely the safe way to go
06:47 kf          in nicole's manual rebuild_zebra.pl is listed as cronjob every n minutes
06:46 Elven_Thief http://www.nabble.com/Bugs-about-koha-zebraqueue-daemon---td24352984.html
06:46 kf          perhaps look here: http://koha.org/documentation/manual/3.2/appendices/cron-jobs
06:45 Elven_Thief http://wiki.koha.org/doku.php?id=koha_3_install_guide_ubuntu_hardy <- that will show you how to set it up either way
06:45 Elven_Thief sadly, there's a bit of dated information for either setup wherever i'm searching.
06:43 nathan1021  okey... thanks for this info...
06:40 kf          I think Elven_Thief is right - we are also using rebuild_zebra.pl instead of zebra_queue_daemon
06:39 Elven_Thief yeah. give me a minute.
06:39 nathan1021  i hope you could find the page... anyway thanks for this tip
06:39 nathan1021  ok....
06:39 Elven_Thief there was some justification about how directly using the zebraqueue is a slower process
06:38 nathan1021  am i right?
06:38 Elven_Thief yeah. i'm trying to find the page i found that on.
06:38 nathan1021  instead of using koha-zebraqueue-daemon
06:38 nathan1021  what you are saying is to have a koha-zebra-daemon then run through cron the rebuild_zebra.pl
06:37 nathan1021  just a clarification
06:36 Elven_Thief just to save yourself from the same errors i made when figuring out how to set up zebra
06:36 Elven_Thief nathan1021: (i might be wrong here - feel free to correct me) I believe the current preference is to use the koha-zebra-ctl.sh and a cron job running the rebuild_zebra.pl over using the koha-zebraqueue-ctl.sh
06:33 kf          natham1021: found it: http://www.nabble.com/Linux-Flavour---Koha-td24822911.html#a24854622
06:31 Elven_Thief ah. i think you're right
06:30 kf          try manage staged records, I think you will see it there, not while importing the batch
06:30 Elven_Thief ok. thanks.
06:30 kf          but my colleague handles record import to koha, so I dont know how it looks like
06:30 Elven_Thief i thought it just said 'x matched records', but i'll double check with some sample data
06:29 kf          I think you get a list of matched records when using staged import in koha intranet
06:28 Elven_Thief kf, i asked this already, but you may know.... is there a way of listing what records "matched" when doing marc imports?
06:28 kf          there were many more answers to the thread, still searching :)
06:27 nathan1021  thanks kf
06:27 kf          http://www.nabble.com/Linux-distribution-with-Koha--td20778024.html#a20778209
06:27 nathan1021  as im having trouble with the daemon
06:26 nathan1021  got it working but with no zebra
06:26 nathan1021  i have been trying all this time in fedora core 10
06:26 nathan1021  im new in koha, so i dont know whats the preferred distro
06:25 kf          mom I will search for it
06:25 kf          I think there is not the best and it was advised you use something you know
06:25 nathan1021  can you point me to the link
06:25 kf          there was a discussion on the mailing list some time ago
06:25 nathan1021  and version
06:24 nathan1021  may i ask what's the best distro to install koha
06:17 kf          good morning #koha
05:54 Elven_Thief on a side note, is there an easy way to get the list of 'matching' records when doing marc imports in the tools area?
05:52 Elven_Thief the zebra daemon runs as the user 'koha'. can that user access it?
05:51 nathan1021  yes.. when i type daemon in command line, available options appear
05:51 Elven_Thief it could be that the environment settings don't have the program in their path
05:50 Elven_Thief hrm. can you run daemon from a command line?
05:50 nathan1021  fedora core 10
05:50 Elven_Thief what distro are you using?
05:50 nathan1021  i hope somebody can help
05:48 nathan1021  but i have just installed daemon program
05:48 nathan1021  it says line 28: daemon command not found
05:48 nathan1021  i tried to start koha-zebraqueue-daemon by service koha-zebraqueue-daemon start
05:46 nathan1021  i have trouble running koha-zebraqueue-daemon
05:46 nathan1021  SOS
05:46 nathan1021  hi
04:44 pianohacker Good night
03:57 chris       :)
03:57 pianohacker Can you perltidy everything while you're at it? ;)
03:56 pianohacker Hahaha. Well then, appropriate place to add them
03:56 chris       its missing a copyright statement
03:56 chris       speaking of about.pl
03:56 chris       good idea
03:56 pianohacker Not necessarily in every file
03:56 pianohacker Perhaps adding a note that the Koha Dev Team means those listed in about.pl ?
03:55 pianohacker Okay.
03:55 chris       i should just gone 2009 Koha Dev Team
03:55 chris       thats where the Koha Dev team comes in
03:55 pianohacker That seems... somewhat difficult
03:54 pianohacker Hmm. It seems like that would require, for something like, say, C4::Biblio, Copyright (c) 2000, 2001, 2002, 2003, ..., 2009 Chris Cormack, Joshua Ferraro, ad infinitum
03:54 chris       :)
03:54 chris       so figure, 1 file at a time
03:54 chris       one of the debian developers was commenting on how we are missing copyright statements, or have incomplete ones
03:53 chris       For software with several releases over multiple years, it is best to spell out each year, in full, without using ranges or abbreviations, as in the example above.
03:52 chris       http://www.fsf.org/licensing/licenses/gpl-howto.html
03:52 chris       The copyright notice should include the year in which you finished preparing the release (so if you finished it in 1998 but didn't post it until 1999, use 1998). You should add the proper year for each release; for example, “Copyright 1998, 1999 Terry Jones” if some versions were finished in 1998 and some were finished in 1999. If several people helped write the code, use all their names.
03:50 pianohacker Hmm, okay. Why?
03:49 chris       that's my new thing
03:49 chris       oh it didnt have the koha dev team in there
03:48 pianohacker Hmm, just noticed your copyright header on the new Memcached stuff (which is nice, by the way). What's your reasoning behind that?
03:42 pianohacker Hey
03:42 chris       hiya pianohacker
03:42 pianohacker Hello, chris, pie, Amit
03:18 chris       hi Amit
03:18 Amit        good morning #koha
03:18 Amit        hi chris, pie
03:14 chris       ohhh the first patch from VOKAL
01:56 chris       i may have to do an unsung heroes for andrew moore for the dbrevs page
00:58 chris       ?
00:58 chris       and just check perl deps, instead of doing any db updates
00:58 chris       can do, so bump the version
00:57 gmcharlt    chris: second, updatedb ought to check for unmet perl deps
00:57 gmcharlt    chris: couple thoughts occur - making Memoize::M optional might be nice - i.e., fail gracefully if it's not installed
00:31 chris       hi chris_n2
00:31 gmcharlt    hi chris_n2
00:31 chris_n2    evening
00:03 gmcharlt    ;)
00:02 gmcharlt    oops
00:02 gmcharlt    C:> sudo apt-get install memcached
00:02 chris       i promise to do more than that
00:02 chris       :)
00:02 chris       sudo apt-get install memcached
00:02 chris       yep
00:02 chris       :-)
00:02 gmcharlt    note, by the way, that a Proper Patch (tm) will at least give a hint about how to set up memcached
00:02 chris       on different ports
00:02 chris       the way to do that would be to run a couple of memcacheds
00:02 gmcharlt    ok, curious
00:01 chris       not that im aware of anyway
00:01 chris       nope
00:01 gmcharlt    chris: does memcached support having the client dictate how much memory to use for a namespace?