| Time |
S |
Nick |
Message |
| 12:05 |
|
gmcharlt |
bbiab |
| 12:20 |
|
chris_n |
g'morning koha |
| 12:25 |
|
chris_n |
g'morn gmcharlt |
| 12:25 |
|
gmcharlt |
hi chris_n |
| 12:26 |
|
gmcharlt |
I survived - that's about all I'll say ;) |
| 13:44 |
|
jwagner |
Someone around who understands zebra & relevance ranking? |
| 14:17 |
|
hdl_laptop |
jwagner: throw your question. |
| 14:18 |
|
jwagner |
If you do a search for Woolf (as in Virginia Woolf), the relevancy ranking seems to always put entries with Wolf, Wolves, etc. in the hitlist ahead of entries with Woolf. I can see that zebra is trying to be helpful, but why doesn't it return an exact match first in the list? Fuzzy searching is off. |
| 14:19 |
|
jwagner |
Same results for Reed -- it returns Red first in the list, along with things like Rede. |
| 14:20 |
|
jwagner |
If you search for "Virginia Woolf" in quotes, it brings up a reasonable list, but Virginia Woolf without the quotes seems to search for anything with Virginia plus any variation on wolf, wolves, etc. |
| 14:27 |
|
owen |
I thought zebra didn't understand quotes. |
| 14:27 |
|
jwagner |
No, it uses quotes to treat as an exact phrase -- I've done that with several searches. |
| 14:28 |
|
jwagner |
It does choke on certain symbols, like ? and : |
| 14:31 |
|
hdl_laptop |
jwagner: which value is AutoTruncation ? |
| 14:31 |
|
hdl_laptop |
jwagner: what is the value of queryStemming ? |
| 14:32 |
|
jwagner |
QueryAutoTruncate and QueryStemming are both on. Should that make a difference? From the descriptions they both seemed to operate at the end of terms, like making cat and cats equal. |
| 14:32 |
|
hdl_laptop |
If QueryStemming is 1 Then you are trying first to "stem" your operands and then search relevancy. |
| 14:33 |
|
hdl_laptop |
So i guess in english wolf is stemmed wol and searches on wol* before doing the search. |
| 14:33 |
|
hdl_laptop |
(and relevancy ranking) |
| 14:33 |
|
hdl_laptop |
which might not be what you want. |
| 14:33 |
|
jwagner |
Hmmm. I just turned them both off, but it didn't make a difference. A search for Woolf still produces the same large result set, with wolf and wolves near the top. |
| 14:36 |
|
jwagner |
(This is the general keyword search, incidentally -- which 99% of users are going to do. A subject search for Woolf produces a more appropriate result set.) |
| 14:37 |
|
owen |
jwagner: I don't find that putting search terms in quotes excludes results which don't have that exact phrase. |
| 14:37 |
|
owen |
http://acpl.kohalibrary.com/cg[…]ch.pl?q=space+jam |
| 14:38 |
|
owen |
http://acpl.kohalibrary.com/cg[…]q=%22space+jam%22 |
| 14:39 |
|
jwagner |
OK, now we have another variation, sigh. |
| 14:40 |
|
owen |
Could it be a zebra configuration issue? |
| 14:40 |
|
owen |
I *know* I was told previously that zebra didn't do exact phrase searching via quotes. |
| 14:40 |
|
jwagner |
That's what I'm wondering, but I don't know enough about zebra's inner workings to even know what I'm looking for. |
| 14:41 |
|
jwagner |
The only changes I've done to record.abs on these systems are to add the 035 field (it was in record.abs but commented out) and add the 856 field. |
| 14:43 |
|
jwagner |
owen, with regard to quotes, I've found that searching time and again and "time and again" produce different result lists, and the one with quotes is more accurate. Same for time again and "time again" (different title, again the one with quotes is more accurate). I've seen it work the same way on other titles. |
| 14:47 |
|
atz |
owen: zebra does it, but Koha pre-parsing strips it out |
| 14:47 |
|
atz |
so in yaz client you can specify a search that is an exact string, or a truncated string, possibly even a left-truncated string, etc. |
| 14:48 |
|
hdl_laptop |
jwagner: in fact, zebra has some relevancy ranking on the fly |
| 14:48 |
|
jwagner |
atz, would the pre-parsing account for my problem? Why variations on wolf, wolves show up in the hitlist before the term that was actually searched (Woolf)? |
| 14:49 |
|
hdl_laptop |
And koha is building the query. |
| 14:49 |
|
hdl_laptop |
jwagner: maybe relevancy suppose that you are also using stemmed operands. |
| 14:49 |
|
hdl_laptop |
(in koha) |
| 14:50 |
|
atz |
jwagner: i'm not sure... i would bet wol* shows up in more fields for the "wolf" records than just the one author field for Virgina's books |
| 14:50 |
|
atz |
so that probably affects relevance |
| 14:50 |
|
jwagner |
That might be the case. Any way to tweak zebra in that regard? |
| 14:50 |
|
hdl_laptop |
jwagner: it is in C4/Search.pm |
| 14:51 |
|
hdl_laptop |
not in zebra that you should look. |
| 14:51 |
|
atz |
jwagner: like i said, you *could* search zebra that way. koha doesn't |
| 14:51 |
|
atz |
mostly because of having a fairly clunky pre-parser |
| 14:56 |
|
jwagner |
hdl_laptop, I'm looking at C4/Search.pm. Not quite sure what I'm looking for, but it seems to give 1st priority to title-cover, followed by exact title, then phrase title, then exact any, then word list any. So since I'm searching one word (Woolf) which may show up in a title but isn't a phrase, is that part of the problem? |
| 14:57 |
|
jwagner |
Sorry, exact any, then word list any are commented out, never mind those. |
| 15:06 |
|
hdl_laptop |
jwagner: you are searching for QueryWeightFields |
| 15:06 |
|
hdl_laptop |
and its options. |
| 15:10 |
|
jwagner |
hdl_laptop, thanks. I think I'm going to have to turn that over to one of the programmers to research. Sigh.... |
| 17:16 |
|
kf |
hi there, testing requests atm, I m able to put a item on hold, that is already checked out to me (current HEAD) - can somebody try this and tell me if its a bug in my configuration or a real bug? |
| 18:01 |
|
chris |
morning |
| 18:01 |
|
sekjal |
good morning, chris |
| 18:03 |
|
chris |
heya sekjal, hows it looking for the migration? |
| 18:04 |
|
sekjal |
I think it's going alright; discovered that I can't import ALL the records first, then run rebuild_zebra.pl. Run out of space about 80% through the merge |
| 18:04 |
|
sekjal |
once this latest load finishes, I've just got to get the patrons over, then the current circulation transactions, and I'm set |
| 18:05 |
|
chris |
sweet, sounds like its going fine |
| 18:05 |
|
chris |
(apart from the hiccup with diskspace) |
| 18:06 |
|
sekjal |
yeah. since some of my bibs have over 1000 attached items, I've got to run rebuild_zebra.pl with the -x flag |
| 18:06 |
|
chris |
ahh |
| 18:06 |
|
chris |
those are serials? |
| 18:06 |
|
sekjal |
yes |
| 18:07 |
|
sekjal |
we've got a couple that go back to the 1800s, with several volumes per year |
| 18:07 |
|
sekjal |
and multiple copies at different locations |
| 18:07 |
|
chris |
medical journals eh? |
| 18:07 |
|
sekjal |
yes. Annals of the New York Academy of Sciences was the first one I noticed |
| 18:08 |
|
chris |
my sister is a 'research fellow' in public health at the school of medicine here, she would be jealous :) |
| 18:09 |
|
sekjal |
we do have a pretty good medical collection. sadly, a lot of it is in storage now due to space constraints |
| 18:09 |
|
atz |
sekjal: so as soon as you get done w/ the migration, you start a digitization project... |
| 18:10 |
|
sekjal |
atz: sounds good to me. our Digital Project's librarian is deciding on institutional repository software now |
| 18:11 |
|
chris |
http://www.wnmeds.ac.nz/academ[…]ck%20profile.html <--- thats her (she has finished her Phd now) |
| 18:12 |
|
sekjal |
chris: very cool |
| 18:12 |
|
atz |
PhD, eh? cormacks not known for their slouching, apparently.... |
| 18:13 |
|
chris |
http://www.uow.otago.ac.nz/aca[…]onna_Cormack.html |
| 18:13 |
|
chris |
the internet .. you can find anything |
| 18:13 |
|
chris |
atz: yeah im the black sheep of the family hehe, i only have a BA, and a BSc |
| 18:14 |
|
owen |
chris, you forgot to add "international fame" |
| 18:15 |
|
chris |
infamy maybe? |
| 18:18 |
|
chris |
http://www.fishpond.co.nz/Book[…]hor=Ian%20Cormack |
| 18:18 |
|
chris |
my dad is more famous |
| 18:20 |
|
owen |
"Getting the Buggers to Turn Up" Awesome title! |
| 18:22 |
|
chris |
heh |
| 18:27 |
|
chris |
He Pa Auroa is in Library of Congress's catalogue, i use it to test z3950 on koha usually :-) |
| 18:29 |
|
chris |
find the router Sharon ? |
| 18:29 |
|
Sharon |
yep, it was unboxed, but safely stored here in the office |
| 18:31 |
|
chris |
:) |
| 18:48 |
|
sekjal |
Zebra is really frustrating me. Even doing it in two batches, I still get the same memory error halfway through the second |
| 18:50 |
|
atz |
sekjal: further bifurcation is in order... or you can try to target the problem record, if it is a precise one |
| 19:02 |
|
sekjal |
it seems to be a problem with the register's allocated memory |
| 19:02 |
|
sekjal |
do I really have that big an index? |
| 19:17 |
|
atz |
guess i can turn off the sprinkler now that it's pouring rain! |
| 19:22 |
|
tomascohen |
hi, i sent an email to koha-devel asking about |
| 19:22 |
|
tomascohen |
setting up a dev environment for koha |
| 19:22 |
|
atz |
eclipse, right? |
| 19:22 |
|
tomascohen |
yeap |
| 19:22 |
|
atz |
I'm replying right now... |
| 19:22 |
|
tomascohen |
ah, ok |
| 19:23 |
|
tomascohen |
I'll wait for your reply |
| 19:23 |
|
atz |
haven't used eclipse, but my main point was to get familiar w/ git |
| 19:23 |
|
atz |
(if you haven't already) |
| 19:24 |
|
tomascohen |
yeap, I've been using it |
| 19:24 |
|
tomascohen |
the main purpose of my question |
| 19:24 |
|
tomascohen |
was to kknow what pwoplw use for debugging |
| 19:24 |
|
tomascohen |
koha development |
| 19:24 |
|
atz |
it depends what is being developed |
| 19:25 |
|
atz |
i.e., web interface or AJAX features... or the installer, or reports, etc. |
| 19:26 |
|
tomascohen |
i've been developing extra modules (perl + html::template) |
| 19:26 |
|
tomascohen |
and reports with google viz api |
| 19:26 |
|
atz |
interesting |
| 19:26 |
|
atz |
the most powerful tool I've used for perl debugging is NYTprof |
| 19:27 |
|
atz |
(New York Time profiler) |
| 19:27 |
|
atz |
*Times |
| 19:28 |
|
atz |
it generates a ton of performance analysis down to how many picoseconds a given line takes to execute |
| 19:28 |
|
tomascohen |
i see, interesting |
| 19:29 |
|
tomascohen |
is there a way to introduce breakpoints and inspect variables? |
| 19:29 |
|
tomascohen |
that's why i've been trying with EPIC |
| 19:29 |
|
atz |
ah... that is more basic kind of debugging... |
| 19:30 |
|
atz |
you can send data to the error log with statements like: |
| 19:30 |
|
atz |
warn "var1: $var1"; |
| 19:30 |
|
atz |
to make it smooth, do: |
| 19:30 |
|
atz |
use C4::Debug; |
| 19:30 |
|
tomascohen |
yesm that's what i've seen commented out in some files |
| 19:30 |
|
tomascohen |
and used it |
| 19:30 |
|
atz |
$debug and warn "var1: $var1"; |
| 19:31 |
|
tomascohen |
i just thought koha devs might use more interesting methods |
| 19:31 |
|
atz |
C4::Debug provides the variable $debug |
| 19:32 |
|
atz |
and you can set that from the command-line like: |
| 19:32 |
|
atz |
export DEBUG=1 |
| 19:32 |
|
tomascohen |
in eclipse, using EPIC you can run a Perl/CGI project |
| 19:33 |
|
atz |
or in Apache VirtualHost like: SetEnv DEBUG 1 |
| 19:33 |
|
tomascohen |
setting several environment variables |
| 19:33 |
|
tomascohen |
is not difficult to have a full development environment for this kind of projects |
| 19:34 |
|
tomascohen |
my doubt has to do with "the proper way" of working for this project |
| 19:34 |
|
tomascohen |
as I intend that our efforts |
| 19:34 |
|
tomascohen |
can be usefull for some anytime |
| 19:34 |
|
atz |
the project does not necessarily constrain the types of tools you should use |
| 19:35 |
|
atz |
you are welcome to use newer or more advanced tools (and perhaps demo them to the rest of us!) |
| 19:36 |
|
tomascohen |
I'll try to share my settings for eclipse if I reach an usable config |
| 19:37 |
|
tomascohen |
well, have to leave or i'll be locked in my office till tomorrow! |
| 19:37 |
|
tomascohen |
thanks for your time |
| 19:37 |
|
tomascohen |
bye (atz) |
| 19:37 |
|
atz |
np, ttyl |
| 19:39 |
|
johnson |
hi all |
| 19:43 |
|
owen |
Hi johnson |
| 19:43 |
|
johnson |
a few months back I upgraded Koha for the small library I was working for at the time |
| 19:45 |
|
johnson |
i'm looking at taking a job now with a university in the US, and i'm hoping to be a shill for koha within the organization |
| 19:45 |
|
johnson |
+i'm looking at getting involved in development |
| 19:45 |
|
johnson |
so i'm just introducing myself |
| 19:45 |
|
johnson |
i might be around a lot in the future |
| 19:46 |
|
gmcharlt |
johnson: great! |
| 19:50 |
|
chris |
yay !! |
| 19:51 |
|
chris |
sekjal: you can control the index size in the zebra config |
| 19:52 |
|
chris |
memMax or something |
| 19:52 |
|
sekjal |
chris: there is that, and register |
| 19:52 |
|
sekjal |
register seems to be what's throwing the error for me |
| 19:53 |
|
chris |
ah right |
| 19:53 |
|
sekjal |
though I probably should have increased memMax, too... |
| 19:53 |
|
chris |
cant hurt to try |
| 19:54 |
|
sekjal |
each failure costs about an hour right now... and I'm running low on those (tomorrow is my last day for two weeks) |
| 19:55 |
|
chris |
:( |
| 19:56 |
|
hdl_laptop |
hi johnson |
| 19:56 |
|
hdl_laptop |
welcome |
| 19:56 |
|
chris |
how big are your 2 files, in megabyte size? |
| 19:57 |
|
chris |
or you 2 directories .. if are using rebuild_zebra with -k |
| 19:57 |
|
sekjal |
each somewhere between 200 and 300 MB |
| 19:57 |
|
chris |
i have 12 hours of daylight coming up, if you wanted to email me them |
| 19:57 |
|
johnson |
thanks hdl_laptop |
| 19:58 |
|
chris |
so if it gets time to knock off work, and its still jamming |
| 19:58 |
|
chris |
feel free to email them, and i can have a crack with my zebra |
| 19:59 |
|
chris |
and now i have to go catch my bus to work |
| 19:59 |
|
sekjal |
thanks, chris. I really appreciate that. |
| 19:59 |
|
chris |
bb in about 40 mins |
| 19:59 |
|
sekjal |
ride safely! |
| 20:09 |
|
richard |
hi |
| 20:12 |
|
hdl_laptop |
good nite koha |
| 20:15 |
|
Wizzyrea_ |
owen++ for posting all of his jquery hackery. |
| 20:32 |
|
chris_n |
I think there's light at the end of the tunnel now |
| 20:44 |
|
sekjal |
chris: I got my bibliographic records to index. it was just a matter of adjusting the size of the register directory |
| 20:44 |
|
sekjal |
still can't get my authority records to be searchable, though |
| 20:45 |
|
sekjal |
but that's considered a lower priority right now |
| 20:46 |
|
chris |
yay! for biblios boo! for authority |
| 20:46 |
|
chris |
authorities are always keeping us down |
| 20:46 |
|
sekjal |
its true |
| 20:47 |
|
chris |
why is the man always messing with us |
| 20:48 |
|
sekjal |
apparently, my problem is the field 001's aren't being properly recognized, and are resulting in undefined objects |
| 20:49 |
|
chris |
ahh |
| 20:49 |
|
sekjal |
doesn't matter if I bring them in as MARCXML from our old catalog, or fresh binary from NLM |
| 20:50 |
|
gmcharlt |
sekjal: pure MeSH? |
| 20:50 |
|
sekjal |
yes |
| 20:51 |
|
gmcharlt |
sekjal: just loading using bulkauthimport? |
| 20:51 |
|
sekjal |
yes |
| 20:52 |
|
sekjal |
the database shows that authids have been assigned, and inserted into the MARCXML (and I think the binary MARC, too) |
| 20:53 |
|
sekjal |
I just can't seem to retrieve the values from the field when it comes time |
| 21:17 |
|
Jo |
morning all |
| 21:17 |
|
chris |
hi Jo |
| 21:22 |
|
sekjal |
day's end. time to catch a train. cheers, all! |
| 21:35 |
|
Wizzyrea_ |
question: what order, if any, are the holdings tables sorted by |
| 21:35 |
|
Wizzyrea_ |
that is to say, what is the sort order of the items tables |
| 21:35 |
|
Wizzyrea_ |
we can't seem to figure it out |
| 21:36 |
|
chris |
url ? |
| 21:44 |
|
Wizzyrea_ |
cgi-bin/koha/catalogue/detail.pl |
| 21:46 |
|
Wizzyrea_ |
cgi-bin/koha/cataloguing/additem.pl |
| 22:19 |
|
atz |
could be just the order they appear in the items table... not sure |
| 22:22 |
|
gmcharlt |
I think atz has it |
| 22:22 |
|
Wizzyrea_ |
yea,it makes more sense in the OPAC so I may just take a look at how that works and duplicate that on the staff side. |
| 22:25 |
|
atz |
a few different things make sense... table order is actually pretty useful in additem, since it will be chronological order |
| 22:25 |
|
atz |
and that makes sense to the adder of items |
| 22:26 |
|
Wizzyrea_ |
yea, if you only have one library |
| 22:26 |
|
Wizzyrea_ |
it gets confusing, for example, with items like serials, where you have zillions of items |
| 22:27 |
|
atz |
yeah, a lot of things are exploded by serials |
| 22:27 |
|
Wizzyrea_ |
and 26 libraries |
| 22:27 |
|
Wizzyrea_ |
it's merely annoying with most bibs, but it's really obnoxious with a serial title |
| 22:28 |
|
atz |
Might throw in a jquery control box for filtering the table display. Like: |
| 22:28 |
|
atz |
Items per branch: |
| 22:28 |
|
atz |
MAIN - 3 (show only, hide) |
| 22:29 |
|
atz |
AUX - 2 (show only, hide) |
| 22:29 |
|
atz |
etc |
| 22:29 |
|
Wizzyrea_ |
hmmm yes that idea has merit, especially since what they really want is to sort by logged in branch first |
| 22:29 |
|
atz |
the nice thing about that jquery approach is that it doesn't have to build any kind of tablesorter index at load time |
| 22:30 |
|
Wizzyrea_ |
that one would take me longer to figure out, but I'm willing to give it a go |
| 22:30 |
|
Wizzyrea_ |
(seems like an opportunity to learn something :P) |
| 02:14 |
|
chris |
ack well that might be a hurdle, or more a brick wall |
| 02:14 |
|
chris |
i wonder if anyone has tried to get biblios working with unimarc before |
| 02:39 |
|
johnson |
chris: where do you recommend I start with getting familiar with Koha's architecture? |
| 02:40 |
|
chris |
easiest thing, is pick something you want to work on, and jump in |
| 02:41 |
|
johnson |
that's what i'll do, then |
| 02:41 |
|
chris |
http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3516 |
| 02:41 |
|
munin |
Bug 3516: enhancement, P5, ---, oleonard myacpl.org, NEW, Display picture of patorns in OPAC |
| 02:41 |
|
chris |
looks like a fun one :) |
| 02:41 |
|
johnson |
break the thing a few times and see what happens |
| 02:41 |
|
lamiette |
learn by doing :) always fun |
| 02:42 |
|
chris |
bugs.koha.org has a ton of things people would like to see, or little (or big) bugs |
| 02:42 |
|
chris |
and if you have a new feature you want to work on |
| 02:42 |
|
chris |
its a good idea to register an bug, marked enhancement there |
| 02:43 |
|
chris |
stops people doubling up |
| 02:47 |
|
johnson |
yes, i've seen the bug reports |
| 02:47 |
|
johnson |
and the 3.2 roadmap |
| 02:47 |
|
johnson |
i'll just dig in |
| 02:47 |
|
chris |
cool |
| 03:21 |
|
Amit |
hi chris, brendan |
| 03:21 |
|
Amit |
good morning koha |
| 03:21 |
|
Amit |
hi jo, pie |
| 03:43 |
|
brendan |
hey amit |
| 04:17 |
|
brendan |
harry potter |
| 04:17 |
|
brendan |
whoops -- wrong screen there |
| 04:17 |
|
chris |
heh |
| 04:17 |
|
brendan |
hi #koha |
| 04:17 |
|
brendan |
it's funny what amuses me these days :) |
| 04:19 |
|
pie |
sometimes you gotta laugh at yourself, best way to get through the day :D |
| 04:19 |
|
brendan |
:P |
| 04:21 |
|
chris |
oh laugh at squirrels |
| 04:21 |
|
chris |
http://www.urlesque.com/2009/0[…]steals-the-scene/ |
| 04:22 |
|
brendan |
priceless :) |
| 05:58 |
|
brendan |
anybody got a favorite online resource for RegEx (find and replace) ? |
| 06:00 |
|
hdl_laptop |
which kind vi ? perl ? |
| 06:01 |
|
brendan |
vi |
| 06:01 |
|
hdl_laptop |
http://delicious.com/laurenthdl/vim |
| 06:01 |
|
brendan |
thanks -- taking a look now |
| 06:02 |
|
brendan |
:) |
| 07:14 |
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chris |
evening |
| 07:14 |
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kf |
morning chris |
| 07:14 |
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kf |
can you test something for me? I m not sure if its a bug or a configuration problem |
| 07:15 |
|
kf |
I cant place holds on titles with one item and allowOnShelfHolds OFF and OpacItemHolds OFF |
| 07:15 |
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kf |
I can place a hold, when I add a second item and check it out, so that both items are checked out |
| 07:15 |
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hdl_laptop |
hi |
| 07:16 |
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kf |
its current head - well, patched on friday |
| 07:16 |
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kf |
hi hdl |
| 07:16 |
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kf |
check in second item, delete it - no hold can be placed :( |
| 07:21 |
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chris |
hmm |
| 07:21 |
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kf |
hmm? |
| 07:22 |
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chris |
sure sounds like a bug |
| 07:22 |
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chris |
thats in the librarian interface eh? |
| 07:23 |
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kf |
no in Opac, sorry |
| 07:23 |
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kf |
librarian interface works fine |
| 07:23 |
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chris |
so if you only havfe one item, and its checked out, you cant place a hold |
| 07:23 |
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chris |
? |
| 07:24 |
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kf |
yes |
| 07:24 |
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chris |
ok, ill check waht the code is doing |
| 07:25 |
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chris |
but i have to put kahu to bed first |
| 07:26 |
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kf |
thx chris - just thought you could test it (because you sure have a current head installation) - so that I can file a bug if you can repeat it |
| 07:27 |
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kf |
I dont want to steal too much from your time this late |
| 07:50 |
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chris |
right he's asleep |
| 07:51 |
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kf |
I have a short talk about dokuwiki in ten minutes - will be back soon (I hope) |
| 07:54 |
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kf |
ok, dont look at it |
| 07:54 |
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kf |
I tried everything I could think of yesterday to put this item on hold :( and now it works |
| 07:54 |
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kf |
with another user |
| 07:54 |
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kf |
I m sorry |
| 07:56 |
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kf |
seems to be a problem with current location and permanent location |
| 07:56 |
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kf |
will do more tests later |
| 07:59 |
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kf |
current location is borrowers location, but permanent isn't - so it may be a configuration problem |
| 07:59 |
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chris |
ah |
| 07:59 |
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chris |
:) |
| 07:59 |
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kf |
have to leave no for the meeting - but thx chris! |
| 08:00 |
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chris |
hehe i didnt do anything :) |
| 08:01 |
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chris |
hdl_laptop: you about? |
| 08:02 |
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hdl_laptop |
yes |
| 08:02 |
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chris |
have you ever tried biblios? |
| 08:03 |
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hdl_laptop |
tried for usmarc it is quite helpfull |
| 08:03 |
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chris |
yep |
| 08:04 |
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chris |
im doing some work for a UNIMARC library, and they wanted it integrated with koha, but i dont think it will work with unimarc without a lot of work |
| 08:04 |
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hdl_laptop |
but adapting to unimarc would be quite ressource demanding. |
| 08:05 |
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chris |
*nod* |
| 08:05 |
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hdl_laptop |
yes... many xsl are hardcoded. |
| 08:06 |
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hdl_laptop |
And taking all the values from UNIMARC format would require much more time than simply processing UNIMARC to MARC21 back and forth. |
| 08:06 |
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chris |
yeah |
| 08:06 |
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hdl_laptop |
(nonetheless, MARC212UNIMARC is not roundtrip) |
| 08:07 |
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chris |
i think i will recommend that they dont at this time, unless they have the funds for the work to add unimarc to biblios |
| 08:09 |
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chris |
thanks, i just wanted to check i wasnt missing something simple |
| 08:22 |
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hdl_laptop |
or they could use opencataloger which is not as powerfull and friendly as biblios |
| 08:23 |
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hdl_laptop |
but was developped in xul and well adapted for UNIMARC. |
| 08:23 |
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hdl_laptop |
but still alpha and no devs. |
| 08:24 |
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chris |
that was what toins was working on eh? |
| 08:33 |
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hdl_laptop |
chris yes |
| 08:40 |
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kf |
back |
| 08:49 |
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kf |
chris: I just tested with borrower location = permanent location = current location - it works :) |
| 08:50 |
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chris |
yay :) |
| 08:52 |
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hdl_laptop |
tell gmcharlt SOPAC_integration branch updated |
| 08:52 |
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hdl_laptop |
munin : tell gmcharlt SOPAC_integration branch updated |
| 08:52 |
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munin |
hdl_laptop: I suck |
| 08:52 |
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hdl_laptop |
@later gmcharlt SOPAC_integration branch updated |
| 08:52 |
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munin |
hdl_laptop: downloading the Perl source |
| 08:52 |
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hdl_laptop |
@tell gmcharlt SOPAC_integration branch updated |
| 08:53 |
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chris |
that will do it straight away |
| 08:53 |
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chris |
@later tell |
| 08:53 |
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munin |
chris: (later tell <nick> <text>) -- Tells <nick> <text> the next time <nick> is in seen. <nick> can contain wildcard characters, and the first matching nick will be given the note. |
| 08:53 |
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chris |
will do it next time the bot sees him do something |
| 09:33 |
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hdl_laptop |
later tell gmcharlt SOPAC_integration branch updated |
| 09:37 |
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chris |
heh, not having much luck :) |
| 09:38 |
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chris |
hands too :) |
| 10:15 |
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gmcharlt |
hdl_laptop: thanks |
| 11:22 |
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gmcharlt |
hdl_laptop: about? |
| 11:34 |
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gmcharlt |
@later tell hdl_laptop got a biblibre-sopac integration branch at git://git.librarypolice.com/git/koha-rm.git (also: http://git.librarypolice.com/?[…]s/biblibre-sopac) |
| 11:34 |
|
munin |
gmcharlt: The operation succeeded. |
| 11:34 |
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hdl_laptop |
here. |
| 11:34 |
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gmcharlt |
hdl_laptop: hi |
| 11:34 |
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hdl_laptop |
hi gmcharlt |
| 11:35 |
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gmcharlt |
unless there's more pending in the queue for SOPAC, probably ready to push soon |
| 11:35 |
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gmcharlt |
and may be easier for Jean-Andr? to develop against that branch |
| 11:35 |
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hdl_laptop |
nothing more. |
| 11:35 |
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gmcharlt |
ok |
| 11:36 |
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gmcharlt |
main issues are - syspref (I just need the SQL script updates, I do the updatedatabase and slot it in) |
| 11:36 |
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gmcharlt |
the ilsdi.tmpl is still missing (did it ever exist?) |
| 11:36 |
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hdl_laptop |
do you want me to send you ? |
| 11:36 |
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gmcharlt |
yes |
| 11:37 |
|
gmcharlt |
need documentation of Koha's implementation of the API |
| 11:37 |
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gmcharlt |
and lastly, documentation of how to hook up SOPAC to Koha |
| 11:37 |
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hdl_laptop |
I don't have any help ilsdi.tmpl. |
| 11:37 |
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gmcharlt |
(whew!) |
| 11:38 |
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hdl_laptop |
but Kivutar wrote some page on how to connect to SOPAC. |
| 11:39 |
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Kivutar |
I did, but in french |
| 11:39 |
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gmcharlt |
Kivutar: that's OK - I'd like the link anyway |
| 11:40 |
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gmcharlt |
if nothing else, can running it through babelfish |
| 11:41 |
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Kivutar |
It is on our private wiki, so I should send you by mail |
| 11:41 |
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gmcharlt |
Kivutar: ok, thanks |
| 11:48 |
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Kivutar |
gmcharlt: I forgot I had it on my blog http://blog.kivutar.me/2009/06/10/0/ |
| 11:49 |
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Kivutar |
ask me if you need help |
| 11:51 |
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hdl_laptop |
gmcharlt: sysprefs do you need them to be sent via email ? |
| 11:51 |
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gmcharlt |
hdl_laptop: please |
| 11:52 |
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hdl_laptop |
doing this straight away |
| 11:57 |
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hdl_laptop |
done. |
