Time |
S |
Nick |
Message |
20:41 |
|
richard |
hi |
20:42 |
|
chris |
hi richard |
20:42 |
|
richard |
hey chris |
00:37 |
|
chris |
finally made it gmcharlt ? |
00:37 |
|
gmcharlt |
yep |
00:37 |
|
gmcharlt |
not the quickest of trips |
00:37 |
|
gmcharlt |
not too bad when things are running on time |
00:38 |
|
chris |
*nod* |
00:38 |
|
gmcharlt |
when they aren't, you can sometimes beat it driving |
00:40 |
|
gmcharlt |
time to find some food |
00:40 |
|
gmcharlt |
bbiab |
00:55 |
|
chris |
so far so good |
00:55 |
|
chris |
sunny |
00:59 |
|
chris_n2 |
it was 37 deg C here today |
01:00 |
|
chris |
not that hot either :) |
01:00 |
|
chris |
@wunder wellington,nz |
01:00 |
|
munin |
chris: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 12.0°C (12:00 PM NZST on August 10, 2009). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 72%. Dew Point: 7.0°C. Pressure: 30.51 in 1033 hPa (Falling). |
01:00 |
|
chris_n2 |
and its supposed to be 38+ here |
01:00 |
|
chris_n2 |
tomorrow |
01:00 |
|
pie |
heh, what other things does @wunder do? |
01:00 |
|
chris_n2 |
@wunder 28334 |
01:00 |
|
munin |
chris_n2: The current temperature in Erwin, North Carolina is 30.0°C (8:41 PM EDT on August 09, 2009). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 79%. Dew Point: 26.0°C. Pressure: 30.11 in 1020 hPa (Rising). Heat advisory in effect from 11 am to 8 PM EDT Monday... |
01:01 |
|
pie |
wow, 11am 'til 8pm ... that's stinkin' hot :) |
01:01 |
|
chris_n2 |
the humidity is the killer here |
01:01 |
|
pie |
ah |
01:01 |
|
chris |
pie: munin does a few things like |
01:02 |
|
chris |
@gcalc 37 celsius as fahrenheit |
01:02 |
|
munin |
chris: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything. |
01:02 |
|
chris |
if i could spell |
01:02 |
|
chris |
@gcalc 10NZD as USD |
01:02 |
|
munin |
chris: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything. |
01:02 |
|
gmcharlt |
@gcalc 37 C as F |
01:02 |
|
munin |
gmcharlt: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything. |
01:02 |
|
pie |
heh, it hits Google :) |
01:02 |
|
chris_n2 |
maybe google is in bed |
01:02 |
|
gmcharlt |
@gcalc 37 degrees C in F |
01:02 |
|
munin |
gmcharlt: 37 degrees Celsius = 98.6 degrees Fahrenheit |
01:02 |
|
chris |
there we go |
01:02 |
|
chris |
@karma |
01:02 |
|
munin |
chris: Highest karma: "paul_p" (54), "hdl_laptop" (40), and "chris" (36). Lowest karma: "<!" (-10), "failed" (-9), and "<-" (-5). You (chris) are ranked 3 out of 353. |
01:03 |
|
gmcharlt |
@gcalc 10NZD in USD |
01:03 |
|
munin |
gmcharlt: 10 New Zealand dollars = 6.71800 U.S. dollars |
01:03 |
|
pie |
@gcalc 1 usd in nzd |
01:03 |
|
munin |
pie: 1 U.S. dollar = 1.48853826 New Zealand dollars |
01:03 |
|
pie |
awesome :) |
01:03 |
|
chris |
@quote random |
01:03 |
|
munin |
chris: Quote #12: "<owen> Every time you check in a book a little video loads and Nancy Pearl recites her capsule review of it." (added by gmcharlt at 06:36 PM, July 06, 2009) |
01:03 |
|
pie |
hehe |
01:28 |
|
bob |
hi with upgrading a koha v3 to newer instance do i just place the tarball over the existing install - or do i put it in a new directory? |
01:31 |
|
chris |
no to the first question :) |
01:32 |
|
bob |
ok |
01:32 |
|
chris |
what is the version you are replacing? |
01:32 |
|
bob |
so if i'm going from v3.0.0 to 3.0.3 |
01:32 |
|
chris |
ok |
01:32 |
|
chris |
you untar the 3.0.3 one |
01:32 |
|
chris |
then cd into it |
01:33 |
|
bob |
uhuh |
01:33 |
|
chris |
then run perl Makefile.PL --prev-install-log /path/to/koha-install-log |
01:34 |
|
chris |
the path is probably something like /somewhere/koha-3.00.00/blib/MISC_DIR/koha-install-log |
01:34 |
|
bob |
ah yep read that bit in INSTALL file - just wasn't clear about where to put the tar file |
01:34 |
|
chris |
right next to it :) |
01:35 |
|
bob |
ok thanks |
01:39 |
|
chris |
gmcharlt: you about? |
01:39 |
|
gmcharlt |
chris: yep |
01:40 |
|
chris |
so, if you were fixing a koha for a german company who installed it for a romanian university |
01:40 |
|
chris |
and who choose MARC21 instead of UNIMARC |
01:40 |
|
chris |
(luckily not in production yet) |
01:41 |
|
chris |
would you try to switch it over, or just burn it down and reinstall (trying to save as much of their sysprefs etc as you could) |
01:44 |
|
chris |
i was thinking i could truncate marc_tag_structure and marc_subfield_structure |
01:44 |
|
chris |
switch the syspref |
01:44 |
|
chris |
and fix zebra |
01:44 |
|
chris |
then notice the 8 things i missed probably |
01:47 |
|
gmcharlt |
that plan should work |
01:47 |
|
gmcharlt |
w/o too much trouble |
01:47 |
|
gmcharlt |
the main thing would be the item conversion |
01:48 |
|
gmcharlt |
if they've already loaded items |
01:48 |
|
gmcharlt |
as the default UNIMARC item mapping is rather different form the MARC21 one |
01:48 |
|
gmcharlt |
would also need to go through bibs |
01:48 |
|
gmcharlt |
and make sure that framework codes are set correctly |
01:49 |
|
chris |
ahh yeah, nope luckily they havent started on the bibliographic data |
01:55 |
|
gmcharlt |
in that case shouldn't be much trouble at all |
01:55 |
|
gmcharlt |
are they translating the OPAC? |
01:56 |
|
chris |
into romanian, i hope so |
01:57 |
|
gmcharlt |
@later tell hdl_laptop plan for this week re intregration - ILS-DI on merge-to-HEAD branch Monday or Tuesday, new_acq Wednesday or Thursday, by Friday list of all other stuff I'll want you to revise ;) |
01:57 |
|
munin |
gmcharlt: The operation succeeded. |
02:35 |
|
BobB |
Hi |
02:52 |
|
chris |
hiya BobB |
02:56 |
|
gmcharlt |
hi BobB |
02:59 |
|
BobB |
Hi, hope all is well. Daytime in Florida? |
03:03 |
|
BobB |
A client records Condition of items. I think it should go at Holdings level but can't find an appropriate 952 field. Have you struck this? Irma is not here to ask. |
03:03 |
|
chris |
like if it is torn or damaged? |
03:04 |
|
gmcharlt |
BobB: no, a bit past 23:00 (and I'm actually sitting in a hotel room in Atlanta ;)) |
03:04 |
|
BobB |
They use Good, Fair, Poor. I think the Damaged field is not quite appropriate. |
03:07 |
|
gmcharlt |
BobB: my first inclination would be a custom item subfield tied to an authorized value |
03:07 |
|
BobB |
Atlanta - so you've started at Equinox. Congratulations. |
03:07 |
|
gmcharlt |
BobB: thanks |
03:08 |
|
BobB |
Galen, will you have to relocate or can you work at distance? |
03:08 |
|
gmcharlt |
I'll be telecommuting for a while, but the idea is for me to relocate as soon as I can |
03:09 |
|
BobB |
Big changes in your life. Is the family OK with that? |
03:12 |
|
gmcharlt |
yes - just my wife and I, and naturally we discussed it thoroughly :) |
03:12 |
|
Amit |
hi chris, brendan |
03:13 |
|
Amit |
good morning #koha |
03:13 |
|
gmcharlt |
hi Amit |
03:13 |
|
Amit |
hi galen |
03:13 |
|
chris |
hi Amit |
03:13 |
|
Amit |
chris: how is your weekend |
03:14 |
|
BobB |
Chris, something not used, such as 952 f ? |
03:14 |
|
Amit |
hi BobB |
03:15 |
|
BobB |
Hi Amit, greetings from Sydney. I'm new to this IRC caper - more Irma's territory but she is not here. |
03:16 |
|
chris |
BobB: yes, i think that was what galen was suggesting, something not used already and tying it to an authorised value |
03:18 |
|
BobB |
Thanks Galen and Chris, will do that. |
03:20 |
|
BobB |
Best wishes Galen for the new start. |
03:20 |
|
gmcharlt |
BobB: thanks again |
05:23 |
|
hdl_laptop |
hi |
05:23 |
|
hdl_laptop |
back from holidays |
05:28 |
|
BobB |
Bonjour HDL: Ou est-ce que on va en vacances quand on habite deja au sud de France? |
05:31 |
|
BobB |
To us in Australia, the south of France is already a dream holiday location. |
05:38 |
|
hdl_laptop |
BobB : when you are on the sea shores all year long, you go to mountains. |
05:38 |
|
hdl_laptop |
There are less ppl and air is fresher, and beauty of Nature is restfull. |
05:44 |
|
IrmaCalyx |
Welcome back in KohaLand HDL! Good to hear you had some R&R (rest and recreation) :-) |
06:21 |
|
richard |
hi |
07:12 |
|
chris |
back |
07:32 |
|
chris |
hi kf and magnusenger |
07:33 |
|
magnusenger |
hi chris and everyone! |
07:33 |
|
kf |
hi chris, magnus and everyone :) |
08:32 |
|
Amit |
hi kf hdl |
08:36 |
|
kf |
hi Amit |
09:40 |
|
gmcharlt |
hi hdl_laptop |
09:41 |
|
gmcharlt |
welcome back |
09:41 |
|
gmcharlt |
hope the size of your inbox didn't scare you ;) |
09:42 |
|
hdl_laptop |
gmcharlt: not at all |
09:43 |
|
hdl_laptop |
But the size of patches to apply quite ;) |
09:43 |
|
chris |
heh |
09:43 |
|
chris |
i wonder if we can do a @time plugin for munin |
09:43 |
|
chris |
@time in atlanta ga, usa |
09:43 |
|
munin |
chris: downloading the Perl source |
09:44 |
|
chris |
:) |
09:46 |
|
hdl_laptop |
hehe. |
09:52 |
|
gmcharlt |
chris: galen-bot says time in atlanta ga, usa is 05:52 |
09:52 |
|
kf |
:) |
09:54 |
|
gmcharlt |
hdl_laptop: seems like somebody beat you to the punch with an initial CAS SSO patch |
09:54 |
|
gmcharlt |
would appreciate comments on how it relates to BibLibre's efforts |
09:54 |
|
hdl_laptop |
gmcharlt: well it says dirty hack |
09:54 |
|
hdl_laptop |
I will review this. |
09:55 |
|
hdl_laptop |
But our implementation could proove to be better. |
09:55 |
|
gmcharlt |
hdl_laptop: it does indeed; it also here, yours isn't :) though I'm sure you've spent more time on your version |
09:56 |
|
hdl_laptop |
it is on koha-biblibre branch |
09:56 |
|
hdl_laptop |
published. |
09:56 |
|
hdl_laptop |
It has not been sent to patches yet because it was on an unstable branch. |
09:58 |
|
gmcharlt |
hdl_laptop: well, consider this impetus to get it submitted, or at least onto a branch I can pull from :) |
09:59 |
|
chris |
i had a quick look, its not actually to bad |
09:59 |
|
hdl_laptop |
do you want me to send all the patches from koha-biblibre rebased onto master ? |
09:59 |
|
chris |
hdl_laptop: is it in here ? http://git.koha.org/cgi-bin/gi[…]bre.git;a=summary |
09:59 |
|
gmcharlt |
hdl_laptop: at least get them onto a public branch based on master |
10:00 |
|
hdl_laptop |
chris :http://git.koha.org/cgi-bin/gi[…]b43eaca3a;hb=HEAD |
10:00 |
|
chris |
cos we could cherry-pick that into master pretty fast |
10:00 |
|
gmcharlt |
indeed, though I'd still want the branch-against-master as well |
10:00 |
|
chris |
yep |
10:01 |
|
hdl_laptop |
gmcharlt: It was first based onto master. |
10:01 |
|
gmcharlt |
it = what? |
10:01 |
|
hdl_laptop |
But I thought that reconciliation branch would reconcile master and 3.0 |
10:02 |
|
chris |
heh interesting |
10:02 |
|
hdl_laptop |
It= our dev branch. |
10:03 |
|
gmcharlt |
hdl_laptop: I'm still not see the CAS SSO commit - what's the commit hash? |
10:03 |
|
chris |
chosen the same module name and subroutine names :) |
10:04 |
|
chris |
gmcharlt: ahh its a big merge |
10:04 |
|
hdl_laptop |
gmcharlt: Merge am123_dev sur Biblibre_head |
10:04 |
|
hdl_laptop |
Adds am123 features on to biblibre_head |
10:04 |
|
gmcharlt |
ah - I see is embedded in a merge commit |
10:04 |
|
chris |
scracth that, no cherry-picking |
10:04 |
|
gmcharlt |
indeed |
10:05 |
|
chris |
ive learnt my lesson |
10:05 |
|
gmcharlt |
no offense, but that's basically completely useless as a cherry-pick or pull target |
10:06 |
|
gmcharlt |
do you still have access to the original branches of development |
10:06 |
|
chris |
i think you are going to need to rebase on the original branch, and send patches (or put that branch up) |
10:06 |
|
gmcharlt |
in order to do a non-squashed merge? |
10:06 |
|
hdl_laptop |
gmcharlt: I do. |
10:07 |
|
gmcharlt |
hdl_laptop: cool - look forward to the new branch, then |
10:07 |
|
hdl_laptop |
some more work to do..... |
10:08 |
|
chris |
speaking of public repo's ... i have been pushing to github for a while |
10:08 |
|
chris |
but i have set up git-daemon on my machine at home too |
10:08 |
|
gmcharlt |
chris: anything you're ready to have me look at to pull? |
10:09 |
|
chris |
not really |
10:09 |
|
chris |
one interesting thing is the dbix_class branch |
10:09 |
|
chris |
http://git.workbuffer.org/cgi-[…]oha.git;a=summary |
10:09 |
|
gmcharlt |
even if it's trivial, it occurs to me that doing it and writing up how we did it might be useful material for a tutorial blog post or maiilings to koha-devel |
10:09 |
|
chris |
lemme check |
10:10 |
|
chris |
tell ya what |
10:10 |
|
chris |
ill do a history.txt update |
10:11 |
|
chris |
and commit that, and we can pull that |
10:12 |
|
chris |
the thing i found with DBIx::Class is that with the schema files, we can create a db in either mysql or postgres (or oracle or anything that dbix::class supports) without needing special sql files for each |
10:13 |
|
chris |
so even if we dont use dbix::class everywhere its a win just for that ;) |
10:15 |
|
hdl_laptop |
chris: the hard thing about dvix::class seems to be that schema file is quite hard to read and doesnot allow easy roll back and forth to a version. |
10:16 |
|
hdl_laptop |
khatar tried and evaluate some ORMs and thought kiokudb or Jifty could be good choices. |
10:20 |
|
chris |
jifty is a full application framework |
10:20 |
|
chris |
i like that DBIx::Class still lets you get into the nitty gritty if you need to |
10:26 |
|
chris |
gmcharlt: http://git.workbuffer.org/cgi-[…]ads/documentation |
10:27 |
|
chris |
so you can a remote for my repo |
10:27 |
|
chris |
git remote add workbuffer.org git://git.workbuffer.org/git/koha.git |
10:28 |
|
chris |
then git checkout -b documentation --track workbuffer.org/documentation |
10:28 |
|
chris |
(probably need a git fetch workbuffer.org too( |
10:29 |
|
chris |
then you can cherry-pick that commit over |
10:29 |
|
chris |
thats one way to do it |
10:30 |
|
chris |
or you could just checkout a branch |
10:30 |
|
gmcharlt |
chris: yeah, I think I'll do it as a pull |
10:30 |
|
chris |
checkout -b mydocumentation |
10:31 |
|
chris |
git pull workbuffer.org/documentation |
10:32 |
|
chris |
i think that will do it anyway |
10:34 |
|
gmcharlt |
yeah, then into my staging branch |
10:34 |
|
gmcharlt |
git checkout test |
10:34 |
|
gmcharlt |
git merge mydocumentation/documentation |
10:34 |
|
gmcharlt |
or directly |
10:35 |
|
gmcharlt |
git merge workbuffer.org/documentation |
10:35 |
|
chris |
yep |
10:35 |
|
chris |
i think the pull will do fetch + merge for ya |
10:35 |
|
gmcharlt |
it does indeed |
10:35 |
|
gmcharlt |
fetch first, though |
10:36 |
|
gmcharlt |
lets you do git log --pretty=oneline test workbuffer.org/documentation |
10:36 |
|
chris |
good point |
10:37 |
|
gmcharlt |
chris: well, let's make it official - send a pull request to the patches list |
10:38 |
|
chris |
will do |
10:38 |
|
gmcharlt |
e.g., Subject: PULL - git://git.workbuffer.org/koha.git - documentation - history changes |
10:38 |
|
gmcharlt |
brief description of changes in body |
10:38 |
|
gmcharlt |
something like that |
10:38 |
|
chris |
works for me |
10:39 |
|
gmcharlt |
"Welcome, all, to DVCS performance theatre" |
10:40 |
|
chris |
off it goes |
10:40 |
|
chris |
this was our first git tutorial right there .. quick someone take photos or something :-) |
10:41 |
|
gmcharlt |
chris: better send the chat log to nengard before she finds out that we've been committing tutorial without her ;) |
10:43 |
|
chris |
done :) |
10:53 |
|
chris |
only if you dont drink the coffee |
10:56 |
|
kf |
perhaps you can do some more basic tutorials another time ;) |
11:05 |
|
chris |
yep we will :) |
11:40 |
|
Amit |
hi jdavidb |
11:59 |
|
jdavidb |
Hi, Amit. :) |