| Time |
S |
Nick |
Message |
| 12:08 |
|
CGI566 |
hi |
| 12:08 |
|
CGI566 |
did any anybody know about extending the user login session |
| 12:29 |
|
Amit |
hi jwagner |
| 12:50 |
|
nicomo |
CGI566: see system preference Timeout |
| 12:59 |
|
martinmorris |
hi is there a quick way of deleting a number of biblios and their associated items? on the command line? |
| 13:00 |
|
gmcharlt |
via SQL you can delete from biblio and it should cascade - make sure that you don't have any circ or acq transactions attached |
| 13:00 |
|
gmcharlt |
then you'd run rebuild_zebra -b -r to update indexes |
| 13:00 |
|
martinmorris |
ah, simple as that. i was a bit nervous about doing it directly in the db but i'll give that a go for some and see what happens |
| 13:00 |
|
martinmorris |
thanks! |
| 13:09 |
|
martinmorris |
worked a treat, thanks! |
| 15:15 |
|
atz |
gmcharlt_ can you or chris unsubscribe Ed Sharpe from the Koha list? i'm sick of getting his auto-replies for every message I send... |
| 15:15 |
|
atz |
"If you have gotten this message you have emailed SMECC. |
| 15:15 |
|
atz |
(Or your virus affected computer may have... if so get a good service tech) |
| 15:15 |
|
atz |
(Also if your mail server has problems and is infected YOU need to fix that I do not want to be inolved!) |
| 15:15 |
|
atz |
You Have Contacted SMECC - THE MUSEUM!" |
| 15:15 |
|
gmcharlt |
atz: sure - I'll confirm request with Chris next time he's online |
| 15:16 |
|
gmcharlt |
as Ed hasn't responded to any requests to kill the autoresponder |
| 15:16 |
|
gmcharlt |
he's had more than enough to correct it |
| 15:17 |
|
owen |
The Museum! As opposed to what, THE TASTY SNACK? |
| 15:17 |
|
gmcharlt |
SMECC - THE FOLKS WHO HAVE LISTENED TO THE WRONG MARKETING CONSULTANT!!!!!!!! |
| 15:48 |
|
owen |
I wonder if it would be better to include the "tab" grouping as part of system preference data (along with explanation, value, etc) |
| 15:48 |
|
atz |
not really, imho |
| 15:49 |
|
gmcharlt |
as a separate layer, I think so |
| 15:49 |
|
gmcharlt |
for one thing, would mean that the A-Z issue could be fixed for all languages |
| 15:50 |
|
gmcharlt |
but I agree with atz that there shouldn't be particularly tight coupling between the prefs and how they are presented |
| 15:54 |
|
ziqbal |
hi to all |
| 15:58 |
|
ziqbal |
i am new to this chat room, and hope that this chat room is good for me to solve koha problems |
| 15:59 |
|
ziqbal |
i am new to this chat room , and hope the chat room is good for me to solve koha problems |
| 16:00 |
|
gmcharlt |
welcome ziqbal |
| 16:24 |
|
pianohacker |
Good morning |
| 16:33 |
|
gmcharlt |
hi pianohacker |
| 16:33 |
|
pianohacker |
hello |
| 16:33 |
|
wizzyrea |
wow the yelling!! |
| 16:34 |
|
pianohacker |
wizzyrea: WHAT DO YOU MEAN? |
| 16:35 |
|
wizzyrea |
*giggle* |
| 16:50 |
|
pianohacker |
The hangover will subside eventually |
| 16:57 |
|
jdavidb |
pianohacker: Kinda wish I had a hangover to justify the crummy way I feel today...bleh. |
| 17:07 |
|
joetho |
Elizabeth? |
| 17:15 |
|
pianohacker |
wizzyrea is not very responsive |
| 17:15 |
|
pianohacker |
We must mount an expedition to Kansas to find out why |
| 17:23 |
|
Sharon |
we were in a meeting and now she's a lunch |
| 17:23 |
|
pianohacker |
Ah. Food takes priority |
| 17:49 |
|
wizzyrea |
lordy, you try staying on top of things when you've had the ick for 2.5 weeks (and the dr tells you it's "just a virus..." bite me, plzkthx) |
| 17:59 |
|
joetho |
I withdraw my question |
| 18:00 |
|
chris |
good old ed sharpe, he is in koha folklore already, this will just increase that |
| 18:00 |
|
chris |
removing now |
| 18:02 |
|
pianohacker |
Ahh, he's an archivist at smecc |
| 18:03 |
|
chris |
he is infamous for yelling constantly about lccn |
| 18:04 |
|
pianohacker |
I believe you've told me about him, yes |
| 18:04 |
|
pianohacker |
He also seems to have wanted complete install testing of every Koha release |
| 18:07 |
|
chris |
he is usually right |
| 18:07 |
|
chris |
http://lists.katipo.co.nz/publ[…]March/013264.html |
| 18:09 |
|
pianohacker |
Huh |
| 18:11 |
|
pianohacker |
Syntax error near ",,,," |
| 18:11 |
|
pianohacker |
edsharpesmessage has too many errors |
| 18:12 |
|
chris |
heh |
| 18:17 |
|
wizzyrea |
ooh, from aol.com... I take that very seriously |
| 18:17 |
|
wizzyrea |
(complete with typos) |
| 18:20 |
|
wizzyrea |
hm we really ought to take a look at that "about koha -> dev team" page :P |
| 18:20 |
|
chris |
out of date? |
| 18:21 |
|
wizzyrea |
yea, it is. |
| 18:21 |
|
chris |
oh yeah, it has russel and i at liblime still, well sorta |
| 18:21 |
|
chris |
send a patch :) |
| 19:04 |
|
joetho |
the picture shows chris with a full beard and hippie beads. |
| 19:04 |
|
joetho |
go look |
| 19:04 |
|
chris |
heh |
| 19:04 |
|
joetho |
you didn't look. |
| 19:04 |
|
chris |
i did have a goatee once |
| 19:05 |
|
joetho |
Sigh. |
| 19:05 |
|
chris |
never a full beard tho |
| 19:05 |
|
chris |
and that was only for half a year at uni |
| 19:11 |
|
chris |
heya owen |
| 19:12 |
|
owen |
Hi chris |
| 19:12 |
|
owen |
How'd Monday treat you? |
| 19:13 |
|
chris |
not bad not bad |
| 19:14 |
|
chris |
had a bake sale, raised 430$ for the kids of one of the staff |
| 19:14 |
|
chris |
to help towards his buying a drum machine |
| 19:14 |
|
owen |
That's quite a haul! |
| 19:14 |
|
chris |
yep |
| 19:14 |
|
nicomo |
how much is the NZ$ worth? |
| 19:14 |
|
nicomo |
in US$? |
| 19:14 |
|
owen |
Heh, are you trying to punish his parents for some reason? :) |
| 19:15 |
|
chris |
@gcalc 430nzd in usd |
| 19:15 |
|
munin |
chris: 430 New Zealand dollars = 281.65 U.S. dollars |
| 19:15 |
|
chris |
hehe naw, hes a pretty unwell young fulla |
| 19:15 |
|
chris |
somethign to brighten up his day |
| 19:16 |
|
chris |
i think the total is now 738 |
| 19:16 |
|
nicomo |
@wunder lyon, france |
| 19:16 |
|
munin |
nicomo: The current temperature in Feyzin, Feyzin, France is 27.6°C (9:00 PM CEST on July 20, 2009). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 43%. Dew Point: 14.0°C. Pressure: 29.96 in 1014.4 hPa (Steady). |
| 19:18 |
|
chris |
got a long day today, with a go live after 6pm |
| 19:18 |
|
chris |
so im working up to it |
| 19:18 |
|
chris |
:) |
| 19:25 |
|
pianohacker |
owen: Around? |
| 19:25 |
|
owen |
Yes |
| 19:25 |
|
pianohacker |
So there's a couple of sysprefs, opacstylesheet and opaclayoutstylesheet. The OPAC uses the first if it's defined, otherwise the second, otherwise opac.css. Do you know anything about this weird setup/how it is used? |
| 19:26 |
|
owen |
Weird? I use it all the time! |
| 19:26 |
|
owen |
The problem is that they're now misnamed |
| 19:26 |
|
chris |
thats cos you are weird too :) |
| 19:26 |
|
pianohacker |
Why would you want both? |
| 19:26 |
|
pianohacker |
Since only one will be used? |
| 19:27 |
|
owen |
No, that misses the "cascade" part of "Cascading Style Sheets" |
| 19:28 |
|
owen |
The second one overrides the first one, *if* you've specified a property to be overridden |
| 19:28 |
|
owen |
Your "opaccolorstylesheet" file can contain only minor changes if you want: background colors, logo, stuff like that |
| 19:28 |
|
owen |
Or you can supply styles to alter the layout significantly if you wanted to go that far |
| 19:29 |
|
owen |
They should really be named "opacdefaultstylesheet" and "opaccustomstylesheet" or something like that |
| 19:29 |
|
pianohacker |
owen: Yes, I know about opaccolorstylesheet. The intranet's setup makes sense; intranetstylesheet to replace staff-global.css, intranetcolorstylsheet to supplement it |
| 19:30 |
|
pianohacker |
But the OPAC has _three_ stylesheet preferences. opacstylesheet and opaclayoutstylesheet, both of which replace opac.css (but only one of them), and opaccolorstylesheet, which supplements opac.css |
| 19:30 |
|
pianohacker |
My question is: Why do you want opacstylesheet and opaclayoutstylesheet, given that they perform the same function |
| 19:32 |
|
owen |
Because if you're customizing an OPAC it's easier to manage a custom stylesheet that only contains what you *need* for the customizations |
| 19:32 |
|
owen |
Sorry--that's not in reference to opacstylesheet. |
| 19:33 |
|
owen |
opacstylesheet: "Enter a complete URL to use an alternate layout stylesheet in OPAC" |
| 19:33 |
|
owen |
That means you can specify an *offsite* CSS file as your custom CSS. |
| 19:34 |
|
owen |
This could be used if, for instance, your Koha installation was hosted and you didn't have access to the filesystem that held the default stylesheet |
| 19:35 |
|
owen |
It's just a different way of managing things. I'm not sure what particular need prompted the addition of that one, but it's been around for a while. |
| 19:35 |
|
owen |
Sorry I misunderstood your initial question. |
| 19:40 |
|
CGI151 |
Liz...did you post anything new on git? |
| 19:46 |
|
pianohacker |
owen: Gah, ok. A closer reading of the code makes that clear |
| 19:46 |
|
pianohacker |
Thanks |
| 19:49 |
|
pianohacker |
The main reason I'm picking your brain about all this is for the new syspref editor, which will at least make things a tad easier to deal with. The sysprefs will still have names, but much better descriptions |
| 19:50 |
|
pianohacker |
*still have weird names |
| 19:51 |
|
owen |
Any chance for hierarchical sys prefs? |
| 19:52 |
|
pianohacker |
owen: In what sense? |
| 19:52 |
|
pianohacker |
There will be groups of sysprefs, inside tabs |
| 19:52 |
|
pianohacker |
So a three-level, rather than two-level, hierarchy in that sense |
| 19:52 |
|
owen |
For instance: Don't show individual Syndetics prefs unless the main "Syndetics = ON" pref is active |
| 19:53 |
|
pianohacker |
Ahh, I see what you mean. I've thought a bit about that, and it should be possible to implement |
| 19:54 |
|
pianohacker |
But there are still enough obstacles (the godforsaken translator, getting all of the tabs written, adding the prefs that have been added since I started this project) that it might have to wait until after 3.2 (which I am hoping to get this into) |
| 19:54 |
|
chris |
that would rule |
| 19:54 |
|
chris |
yeah, go for the kaizen approach :) |
| 19:55 |
|
pianohacker |
chris: Hah, yeah |
| 19:55 |
|
gmcharlt |
pianohacker++ |
| 19:56 |
|
pianohacker |
Heh. You might want to wait until I've got the dang thing written; I've been _talking_ about it for about four months now |
| 19:56 |
|
chris |
hehe |
| 19:57 |
|
CGI253 |
Just curious, anyone migrated over to koha from alexandria ? |
| 19:58 |
|
pianohacker |
CGI253: This alexandria? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A[…]ia_%28software%29 |
| 19:59 |
|
pianohacker |
If so, you might have to write some custom scripts to do so, as it looks like it doesn't have MARC export |
| 20:00 |
|
CGI253 |
http://www.goalexandria.com/ |
| 20:01 |
|
gmcharlt |
CGI253: http://wiki.koha.org/doku.php?id=cmsdconversion |
| 20:02 |
|
CGI253 |
Yea, read that... still a work in progress I guess. Will keep working at it. |
| 20:02 |
|
chris |
ok time to go catch my bus |
| 20:37 |
|
dipanjan |
gmcharlt: ping |
| 20:37 |
|
gmcharlt |
dipanjan: pong |
| 20:38 |
|
atz |
patch sent for sillyness in adv. search template |
| 20:38 |
|
dipanjan |
if I want to build zebra from source, do I do it for version 2.0.40 or some other version? |
| 20:38 |
|
dipanjan |
gmcharlt: ^^ |
| 20:39 |
|
gmcharlt |
dipanjan: go with the latest stable version that ID has |
| 20:39 |
|
gmcharlt |
2.0.40 should be fine |
| 20:39 |
|
dipanjan |
gmcharlt: thanks. will get back |
| 20:44 |
|
chris |
back |
| 20:50 |
|
richard |
hi |
| 20:50 |
|
chris |
heya richard |
| 21:44 |
|
pianohacker |
xorg-- |
| 21:47 |
|
chris |
heh |
| 23:40 |
|
pianohacker |
'gnight, #koha |
| 02:53 |
|
mason |
have a rebuild_zebra.pl question.. |
| 02:53 |
|
mason |
i |
| 02:54 |
|
mason |
when running rebuild_zebra.pl with -z , what difference does the '-w' switch do ?? |
| 02:55 |
|
mason |
-w skip shadow indexing for this batch |
| 03:03 |
|
mason |
skipping something sounds faster!!, which is good... |
| 03:06 |
|
mason |
can the indexed records still be searched, with the shadow-indexing skipped? |
| 03:06 |
|
mason |
i havent tested yet :/ |
| 03:08 |
|
mason |
hmmm... |
| 03:08 |
|
mason |
http://www.indexdata.com/zebra[…]ow-registers.html |
| 03:09 |
|
mason |
so shadow-indeing is slower, but safer.. |
| 03:11 |
|
mason |
skipping shadow-indexing is faster, but it locks up requests (eg: searching?) while the batch is updating ? |
| 03:11 |
|
mason |
if so , then -w isnt really an option for a prod-system |
| 03:24 |
|
Amit |
hi chris |
| 03:24 |
|
Amit |
good morning #koha |
| 03:38 |
|
SelfishMan |
mason: I believe that is correct but I haven't played with that for a while |
| 03:38 |
|
SelfishMan |
I don't think it locks it so much as may have undesirable results |
| 03:39 |
|
mason |
heya |
| 03:39 |
|
mason |
"Further, while the update process is active, users cannot be allowed to access the system, as the contents of the register files may change unpredictably." |
| 03:40 |
|
mason |
looks like it locks, and gives unpredictable results too :) |
| 03:43 |
|
Amit |
hi mason |
| 03:44 |
|
Amit |
hi mason, Selfish Man |
| 03:44 |
|
mason |
heya amit, good morning to you |
| 06:35 |
|
Amit |
hi nicomo |
| 06:36 |
|
nicomo |
hi Amit |
| 06:36 |
|
nicomo |
hi #koha |
| 06:54 |
|
nicomo |
chris around? |
| 09:38 |
|
Amit |
hi kf |
| 09:54 |
|
kf |
hi Amit |
| 10:34 |
|
martinmorris |
hello, is there any way of uploading the RDF/XML LCSH headings at id.loc.gov into koha? |
| 10:34 |
|
martinmorris |
just getting my head around that format |
| 11:28 |
|
gmcharlt |
martinmorris: not directly - you'd have to convert them to MARC or MARCXML authority records first |
| 11:29 |
|
martinmorris |
with a perl script of some kind perhaps? |
| 11:29 |
|
martinmorris |
i've been having a look, i can see it's a rather different format |
| 11:29 |
|
gmcharlt |
and the RDF at id.loc.gov doesn't retain enough of the original structure to do that accurately |
| 11:29 |
|
Amit |
hi galen |
| 11:29 |
|
gmcharlt |
hi Amit |
| 11:29 |
|
martinmorris |
yes, so i see |
| 11:29 |
|
martinmorris |
no 500 tags for example |
| 11:29 |
|
gmcharlt |
subdivisions not identified, as another example |
| 11:30 |
|
martinmorris |
yes |
