| Time |
S |
Nick |
Message |
| 12:24 |
|
|Lupin| |
hello koha folks ! |
| 12:27 |
|
greenmang0 |
hello |Lupin| |
| 12:33 |
|
|Lupin| |
hi greenmang0 |
| 12:35 |
|
rhcl_away |
gmcharlt: you always on this early? You seem to be on until later in the afternoon too. |
| 12:42 |
|
|Lupin| |
hdl_laptop: here ? |
| 12:42 |
|
hdl_laptop |
|Lupin|: |
| 12:42 |
|
|Lupin| |
hdl_laptop: hi |
| 12:42 |
|
hdl_laptop |
hi |
| 12:42 |
|
|Lupin| |
hdl_laptop: do you by chance know which field is used to implement opacSuppression in Unimarc ? |
| 12:43 |
|
hdl_laptop |
none. |
| 12:43 |
|
hdl_laptop |
you can add that to your record.abs and rebase |
| 12:43 |
|
|Lupin| |
hdl_laptop: ? |
| 12:43 |
|
hdl_laptop |
reindex |
| 12:43 |
|
|Lupin| |
the doc says it's 94$n... |
| 12:44 |
|
|Lupin| |
942$n, sorry |
| 12:44 |
|
gmcharlt |
rhcl_away: generally, yes |
| 12:45 |
|
hdl_laptop |
|Lupin|: it is MARC21 |
| 12:46 |
|
|Lupin| |
hdl_laptop: and what you are saying is that in Unimarc there is no equivalent field, right ? |
| 12:46 |
|
|Lupin| |
hdl_laptop: also: I don't know what you mean by record.abs... |
| 12:53 |
|
gmcharlt |
record.abs is a Zebra configuration file |
| 12:59 |
|
|Lupin| |
gmcharlt: ok, thanks ! |
| 13:22 |
|
|Lupin| |
pls, I've a uestion about INdependantBranches vs. singleBranchMode system preferences. |
| 13:23 |
|
|Lupin| |
in single branch mode, is it still possible to declare several libraries and associate staff to each one ? |
| 13:25 |
|
kf |
I think singlebranchmode is for better display when you only have 1 libary: library name not shown items, only location and there is no dropdown for libraries in advanced search |
| 13:27 |
|
kf |
should not interfere with independantbranches - but I never really testet this syspref, we have it off |
| 13:27 |
|
kf |
and singlebranchmode on |
| 13:33 |
|
atz |
yeah, if you have more than one library, then don't use single branch mode |
| 13:34 |
|
|Lupin| |
atz: ok |
| 13:34 |
|
|Lupin| |
kf: thanks ! |
| 13:34 |
|
|Lupin| |
actually ou r situation is really tricky |
| 13:34 |
|
|Lupin| |
we have several partners |
| 13:34 |
|
|Lupin| |
which transcribe books in braille |
| 13:35 |
|
|Lupin| |
we allow them to upload there files on our server |
| 13:35 |
|
|Lupin| |
so I think we will represent each partner by a library |
| 13:35 |
|
|Lupin| |
so I guess the independant branches syspref may be for us |
| 13:36 |
|
kf |
perhaps you dont need a different libary |
| 13:36 |
|
kf |
you could also use location or collection for the transcribing agency |
| 13:36 |
|
kf |
and for the users a bsort1, bsort2, a new field or btypes |
| 13:38 |
|
|Lupin| |
kf: well... |
| 13:38 |
|
kf |
I would use different libraries for different locations, where transport between libraries is needed - I think you dont need that for a digital libary :) |
| 13:39 |
|
|Lupin| |
kf: no indeed we don't, but each partner still has a physical address etc, so the branches table seems particularly well suited. |
| 13:39 |
|
kf |
perhaps im totally wrong - I dont know, what your workflow will be |
| 13:39 |
|
|Lupin| |
kf: regarding collections, we plan to use them to represent file formats... |
| 13:40 |
|
|Lupin| |
kf: actually is there a difference between libraries and locations ? I was never sure whether these two are distinct or the same thing... |
| 13:41 |
|
kf |
locations are displaed in OPAC behind the libary name, but defined as authorised value LOC |
| 13:41 |
|
kf |
I think its used for something like: room 211, first floor . etc. |
| 13:41 |
|
kf |
or at least you can use it this way |
| 13:42 |
|
kf |
but its a list you can define |
| 13:44 |
|
kf |
locations are like collections - not used for circulation rules, more like "labels" |
| 13:45 |
|
|Lupin| |
kf: ah I see, thanks ! Thought it was a geographic thing (wee in a way it is, if it's room something) |
| 13:46 |
|
kf |
hm thinking about it, using libraries may be a good idea - because you can use it as a search limit :) but you dont need to use independantbranches for more than one library |
| 13:46 |
|
|Lupin| |
kf: how do locaitons and c-code compare with respect to advance search in OPAC, pls ? |
| 13:47 |
|
kf |
you can search for collections OR itypes in advanced search, but never for locations - perhaps not yet? I dont know. |
| 13:47 |
|
|Lupin| |
kf: ah very good to know, thanks ! |
| 13:48 |
|
|Lupin| |
kf: what interests me with independant branches is that one staff member from one parter (that is a transcriber) will be able to edit only the records added to the catalogue by that partner) |
| 13:49 |
|
|Lupin| |
kf: this is close to how our current system works |
| 13:52 |
|
kf |
ah ok :) |
| 13:54 |
|
|Lupin| |
the real problem for us |
| 13:55 |
|
|Lupin| |
is that we'd like to enforce a verification process on our records |
| 13:55 |
|
|Lupin| |
so that each record that is added has to be verified before becoming visible at OPAC |
| 13:56 |
|
|Lupin| |
and with only one user category allowed to do the verification |
| 13:56 |
|
|Lupin| |
and it seems KOha does not permit this... |
| 14:00 |
|
kf |
yes, that seem difficult, but perhaps one of the consortia sponsoring features for Koha will want something like this too? |
| 14:05 |
|
owen |
Is bug 3432 a duplicate of bug 3399? They both have had patches submitted. |
| 14:05 |
|
munin |
Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3432 critical, PATCH-Sent, ---, nahuel.angelinetti biblibre.com, ASSIGNED, Returning lost items |
| 14:05 |
|
munin |
Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3399 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, galen.charltonliblime.com, NEW, Item checked out - marked lost - checked in - switches status to 'lost' & checkout status switches to 'not checked out' |
| 14:05 |
|
|Lupin| |
kf: I don't know. Any idea how to figure that out ? |
| 14:11 |
|
kf |
hm no - perhaps just ask on mailing mailing list if there is development for something like this? |
| 14:12 |
|
|Lupin| |
kf: yep ! looks like this is a rather easonable starting point ! |
| 14:12 |
|
|Lupin| |
kf: thanks a lot for our suggestions and insights ! |
| 14:14 |
|
kf |
Lupin: youre welcome, I hope I did help and was not only confusing :) |
| 14:18 |
|
|Lupin| |
kf: you helped and were not confusing at all, don't worry ! |
| 14:40 |
|
kf |
bye #koha |
| 14:51 |
|
|Lupin| |
mmm in my staff client and opa most of the messages are in french, but some are in english |
| 14:51 |
|
|Lupin| |
has someone already noticed this behaviour ? |
| 14:52 |
|
owen |
|Lupin|: There is still some hard-coded English here and there. If you can point out those instances we can work to fix them |
| 14:53 |
|
|Lupin| |
owen: well it's text that was in french on a previous installation of koha |
| 14:53 |
|
owen |
Hmmm... I don't know about that! |
| 14:53 |
|
|Lupin| |
owen: things seem to have changed after a dev install made from within the git repository |
| 15:14 |
|
|Lupin| |
bye everybody |
| 17:03 |
|
davi |
Could you point me to some source code file where a "warning message" it is shown to the user? |
| 17:03 |
|
davi |
I am adding a warning to the user and I am not sure what style to use. |
| 17:03 |
|
owen |
davi: In the staff client? |
| 17:04 |
|
davi |
in the admin one, when you add a acquisition order |
| 17:04 |
|
davi |
an* |
| 17:05 |
|
davi |
I want to place a warning in the order view, showing if an EDIFACT order was sent for such order |
| 17:05 |
|
owen |
There are two styles: messages and alerts. Messages are informational, alerts are warnings/errors |
| 17:05 |
|
davi |
I need an message style one |
| 17:05 |
|
owen |
If you want to style a message, use <div style="dialog message"></div> |
| 17:06 |
|
davi |
thanks |
| 17:06 |
|
owen |
A good example of this style can be found in check-in if you check in an item that belongs to another library. |
| 17:06 |
|
davi |
thanks |
| 17:06 |
|
davi |
I am going to check it it looks good, centered or not, etc. |
| 17:06 |
|
owen |
The built-in style is centered |
| 17:07 |
|
davi |
good |
| 18:32 |
|
pianohacker |
brb |
| 19:39 |
|
Snow_Fox |
Hey i have a quick question about fines and debarrement, if a patron is debarred because of a fine, you can remove that debarrement for a checkout ie over ride, is that a permanent override on the debarement or is that just a temporary one time shot? |
| 19:39 |
|
pianohacker |
one time. |
| 19:40 |
|
Snow_Fox |
k, |
| 19:40 |
|
Snow_Fox |
and the other question is in regards to the date on the fine item |
| 19:40 |
|
Snow_Fox |
from what i can tell it is showing the date that the book was checked out, |
| 19:40 |
|
Snow_Fox |
can that be changed to when the book was returned? |
| 19:40 |
|
Snow_Fox |
or when it was due i should say |
| 19:43 |
|
Snow_Fox |
is that vauge enough Piano? |
| 19:50 |
|
pianohacker |
Snow_Fox: Bleh, sorry, as often happens I'm trying to do three things at once at work |
| 19:51 |
|
pianohacker |
It _should_ be showing the due date of the book |
| 19:55 |
|
Snow_Fox |
really |
| 19:56 |
|
Snow_Fox |
ill have to double check that |
| 19:58 |
|
pianohacker |
I make no guarantees regarding Koha's fines system |
| 20:30 |
|
richard |
hi |
| 20:35 |
|
pianohacker |
hi |
| 20:35 |
|
wizzyrea |
Here's your weird library related problem of the day: i have a barcode reader that will read UPC's but not barcodes affixed to DVD's from a specific library. biz-a-rre |
| 20:36 |
|
pianohacker |
wizzyrea: Codabar barcodes? |
| 20:36 |
|
wizzyrea |
no, normal 13 digit ones |
| 20:37 |
|
wizzyrea |
er, well |
| 20:37 |
|
wizzyrea |
ok |
| 20:37 |
|
wizzyrea |
codabar = the varying width normal type barcodes you see everywhere? i.e. not the 3d ones that UPS uses |
| 20:37 |
|
pianohacker |
I believe so, yes |
| 20:38 |
|
pianohacker |
Your barcodes are probably codabar (there's many, many standards) |
| 20:38 |
|
pianohacker |
Anyway |
| 20:38 |
|
pianohacker |
Are these barcodes underneath the plastic on the DVD case or the security case? Some barcode readers are oddly, inconsistently sensitive to such things |
| 20:48 |
|
wizzyrea |
no, here's what's funny |
| 20:50 |
|
wizzyrea |
I have an older scanner that scans it fine |
| 20:51 |
|
wizzyrea |
on a COPY of the barcode |
| 20:51 |
|
wizzyrea |
ie a photocopy |
| 20:51 |
|
wizzyrea |
scans the upc on this as well |
| 20:51 |
|
wizzyrea |
the COPY |
| 20:51 |
|
wizzyrea |
but this scanner in my hand... it won't scan it |
| 20:52 |
|
wizzyrea |
it will scan many other barcodes |
| 20:55 |
|
chris |
morning |
| 20:58 |
|
richard |
hi chris |
| 21:47 |
|
|Lupin| |
hello everybody ! |
| 21:48 |
|
pianohacker |
Hi, sebastien |
| 21:48 |
|
pianohacker |
How are you? |
| 21:48 |
|
|Lupin| |
hi pianohacker (not remembering your first name, sorry) |
| 21:49 |
|
|Lupin| |
i's hot here but I'm fine thanks |
| 21:49 |
|
|Lupin| |
how about you ? |
| 21:49 |
|
pianohacker |
Jesse, I might not have introduced myself |
| 21:49 |
|
pianohacker |
Good. Busy busy with Koha programming, but good |
| 21:49 |
|
|Lupin| |
pianohacker: no but once I could establish the link between pianohacker and Jesse, can't remember how |
| 21:49 |
|
|Lupin| |
pianohacker: perhaps during the last meeting... |
| 21:50 |
|
|Lupin| |
pianohacker: cool ! |
| 21:50 |
|
pianohacker |
Ah, yes. No big deal, I'm not very good with names either |
| 21:50 |
|
wizzyrea |
pianohacker what are you working on, sysprefs? |
| 21:52 |
|
|Lupin| |
just a question to all fo you guys... I'm encountering a difficulty with installing KOha. It does not detect a prereq modle installed in my home, however the PERL5LIB variable is properly set. Any suggesiton, pls ? |
| 21:53 |
|
pianohacker |
wizzyrea: Actually, at the moment I'm working on a custom inventory tool for my library, but sysprefs is on the front burner |
| 21:54 |
|
pianohacker |
|Lupin|: Which module? |
| 21:55 |
|
|Lupin| |
pianohacker: MARC::Crosswalk::DublinCore |
| 21:56 |
|
|Lupin| |
pianohacker: there are othe modules installed in my home, though, and Makefile.pl does not complain about those |
| 21:58 |
|
pianohacker |
That's interesting. That module isn't installed on my system |
| 21:58 |
|
pianohacker |
Though I'm sure I did, in fact, install it, just like you |
| 21:58 |
|
|Lupin| |
pianohacker: ahah |
| 21:59 |
|
joetho |
so what's new? |
| 21:59 |
|
pianohacker |
I think you can get away without it unless you need to be able to export your records as Dublin Core |
| 21:59 |
|
|Lupin| |
perhaps the dependency has been removed fromthe code and note from the makefile ? |
| 21:59 |
|
pianohacker |
|Lupin|: Nah, I think it's just an optional dependency |
| 21:59 |
|
pianohacker |
joetho: head in the code as usual. Yourself? |
| 21:59 |
|
|Lupin| |
pianohacker: fine, solet's run without it. It's true that I don't expect to export records in DC :) |
| 22:00 |
|
|Lupin| |
MARC is _so_ wonderful ! |
| 22:01 |
|
|Lupin| |
it was :) |
| 22:06 |
|
|Lupin| |
actually |
| 22:07 |
|
|Lupin| |
when I discovered marc I hought librarians must live in a parallel world to invent such a thing. Afterwars I realized their wold is not parallel, it is prehistoric! |
| 22:07 |
|
pianohacker |
I had a similar reaction :) |
| 22:10 |
|
pianohacker |
Heh. Some things must be said |
| 22:11 |
|
|Lupin| |
:) |
| 22:13 |
|
joetho |
glare |
| 22:13 |
|
joetho |
I'm mad and I'm leaving |
| 22:13 |
|
joetho |
jk jk jk jk |
| 22:13 |
|
joetho |
but I AM leaving |
| 22:15 |
|
pianohacker |
bbl |
| 22:15 |
|
pianohacker |
|Lupin|: Have a good day |
| 22:21 |
|
|Lupin| |
pianohacker: s/day/night/ but same to you ! |
| 22:21 |
|
pianohacker |
Heh |
| 00:02 |
|
|Lupin| |
bye all |
| 00:02 |
|
|Lupin| |
time to sleep |
| 01:57 |
|
pianohacker |
'night |
| 03:25 |
|
Amit |
hi chris |
| 03:25 |
|
Amit |
good morning #koha |
| 03:25 |
|
Amit |
chris: today is longest solar eclipse of the century |
| 03:26 |
|
kevan |
Hello all. Anyone willing to help with a z39.50 search and import problem? |
| 03:26 |
|
Amit |
hi kevan |
| 03:26 |
|
kevan |
Hello. |
| 03:28 |
|
kevan |
When I do a z39.50 search, I get results back and the results don't have an author or title listed. If you look at the marc record, the data is there.... When I click import, I get the required fields are missing. (Author, Title etc...) Any ideas? |
| 03:31 |
|
ebegin |
keven, could it be because you are fetching a server that doesn't match your MARC flavor? for example, fetching an UNIMARC while your setting uses a MARC or the opposite? |
| 03:36 |
|
ebegin |
kevan, did you get my message (i wrote keven instead of kevan)... :( |
| 03:36 |
|
kevan |
Could be. |
| 03:37 |
|
kevan |
I was looking at the server config and not paying attendtion. Is was using the library of congress. I believe it is MARC21. |
| 03:37 |
|
ebegin |
yes, LOC is MARC21/ |
| 03:37 |
|
ebegin |
are you? |
| 03:37 |
|
ebegin |
well, your library, not you :) |
| 03:38 |
|
kevan |
:-) I believe so. I will verify. |
| 03:39 |
|
ebegin |
systempref » cataloguing » marcflavor |
| 03:39 |
|
Amit |
hi ebegin |
| 03:40 |
|
ebegin |
Hey Amit. How are you? |
| 03:40 |
|
Amit |
fine |
| 03:40 |
|
Amit |
today is longest solar eclipse of the century |
| 03:40 |
|
kevan |
MARC21 |
| 03:41 |
|
ebegin |
kevan, hmmm... You may want to check if your framework is ok then. |
| 03:43 |
|
kevan |
I am checking the config files to make sure they match,. |
| 03:44 |
|
kevan |
Any suggestions on what to check? |
| 03:44 |
|
kevan |
The config files match... all MARC21. |
| 03:46 |
|
ebegin |
hmm.. this is weird then... what is your z3950 search? |
| 03:48 |
|
kevan |
No matter what I search on.... I get a return but the list of results doesn't show a title or author. eg. I search on this ISBN: 9781404227644 |
| 03:49 |
|
kevan |
http://www.mibbit.com/pb/0h1Rdi |
| 03:50 |
|
kevan |
Does the look right? Mentions usmarc a couple of times. From koha-conf.xml |
| 03:50 |
|
ebegin |
you set MARC21/USMARC and MARC-8 in your z39.50 server setting? |
| 03:51 |
|
kevan |
Yes. |
| 03:51 |
|
ebegin |
this shouldn't impact the z3950 search. |
| 03:51 |
|
kevan |
Just checked. |
| 03:53 |
|
kevan |
Server Title Author ISBN LCCN Preview LIBRARY OF CONGRESS 2003019934 MARCCard Import |
| 03:55 |
|
ebegin |
kevan, what is that line? |
| 03:55 |
|
kevan |
http://www.mibbit.com/pb/wOxpNo |
| 03:55 |
|
kevan |
I just put it in a pastebin. It reads better. |
| 03:56 |
|
ebegin |
that is what I got when searching for 9781404227644 http://pastebin.ca/1502751 |
| 03:57 |
|
ebegin |
and I can import it... which version are you using? |
| 03:57 |
|
|Lupin| |
hello ! |
| 03:58 |
|
ebegin |
Bonsoir |Lupin|. Insomnie? |
| 03:58 |
|
|Lupin| |
ebegin: oui, j'ai passé la nuit à faire du koha... |
| 03:58 |
|
ebegin |
:) |
| 03:58 |
|
|Lupin| |
ebegin: il est 6H du maitn là |
| 03:58 |
|
kevan |
That is what I would expect to see. We are on 3.00.02.012 |
| 03:59 |
|
|Lupin| |
I've a problem with the staffClientBaseURL system preference... |
| 03:59 |
|
|Lupin| |
I have set it to somehost.somedomain.net/koha/intranet/ |
| 03:59 |
|
|Lupin| |
since it's where KOha is installed |
| 03:59 |
|
|Lupin| |
and it is not taken into account |
| 04:00 |
|
|Lupin| |
like if I try to follow the Patrons link in the menu |
| 04:00 |
|
|Lupin| |
the URL is wrong |
| 04:00 |
|
ebegin |
kevan, what does sax_parser_print.pl gives you? |
| 04:00 |
|
|Lupin| |
so I grepped for the syspref in Koha sources, but it seems to appear almost nowhere... |
| 04:00 |
|
|Lupin| |
anybody knows something about this, please ? |
| 04:01 |
|
kevan |
ebegin, XML::LibXML::SAX::Parser=HASH(0x81f0bcc) |
| 04:02 |
|
ebegin |
Lupin, what do you need it for? It doesn't seem to be used... |
| 04:03 |
|
ebegin |
kevan, that is good... |
| 04:04 |
|
ebegin |
kevan, can you access a windows machine? |
| 04:04 |
|
kevan |
Yes. |
| 04:04 |
|
ebegin |
Maybe you can perform your search using MarcEdit |
| 04:05 |
|
kevan |
I am trying to set this up so that the volunteer librarians at the school can import all of the books... That might work. |
| 04:06 |
|
ebegin |
|Lupin|, what do you need it for? It doesn't seem to be used... |
| 04:19 |
|
|Lupin| |
ebegin: no, a was under a shower, sorry |
| 04:19 |
|
ebegin |
hehe :) np |
| 04:19 |
|
|Lupin| |
ebegin: I'm trying to use Koha on a machine where I have no root permission and no virtual host set-up for Koha |
| 04:20 |
|
|Lupin| |
ebegin: yeah I also tend to think this pref is not used... a bit a pity since it is documented ! |
| 04:21 |
|
|Lupin| |
but I guess it would be a big amount of work to go through all the code and ensure that every link uses it |
| 04:22 |
|
ebegin |
can't you modify your koha-conf.xml file to reflect your directory |
| 04:22 |
|
|Lupin| |
ebegin: hmm how wouldyou do that ? |
| 04:22 |
|
|Lupin| |
ebegin: I tried actually |
| 04:22 |
|
|Lupin| |
but hte URLs generated for the Patrons link, e.g., start with cgi-bin/ |
| 04:23 |
|
ebegin |
this is a hosted server? |
| 04:23 |
|
|Lupin| |
whereas they should start with koha/intranet/ |
| 04:23 |
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|Lupin| |
ebegin: kind of |
| 04:23 |
|
ebegin |
you should have access to its /var/www directory or something equivalent? |
| 04:23 |
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|Lupin| |
ebegin: ah you said koha-conf.xml... I don't know... not sure which settings this one contains |
| 04:24 |
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|Lupin| |
ebegin: yes, my persnoal web directory is a symlink to /var/www/something |
| 04:24 |
|
ebegin |
at the end, you have the intranet-dir and opac dir IIRC |
| 04:25 |
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|Lupin| |
ahah |
| 04:25 |
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|Lupin| |
ebegin: yes, you are right |
| 04:26 |
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|Lupin| |
ebegin: but these are the locations in the file system |
| 04:26 |
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|Lupin| |
not those used by koha in the links it generates |
| 04:26 |
|
kevan |
thanks for the guideance. |
| 04:27 |
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|Lupin| |
anyway... have to run now to get a breakfast and go to the office. Will be back later... thanks for your precious help ebegin ! |
| 04:28 |
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|Lupin| |
bye |
| 06:20 |
|
chris |
wow, get busy at work for 2 days and end up with a big pile of koha mail |
| 06:44 |
|
chris |
bbiab |
| 06:57 |
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|Lupin| |
hi again, everybody |
| 07:04 |
|
kf |
good morning #koha |
| 07:04 |
|
kf |
chris here? |
| 07:07 |
|
kf |
@wunder konstanz |
| 07:07 |
|
munin |
kf: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 20.0°C (9:00 AM CEST on July 22, 2009). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 75%. Dew Point: 16.0°C. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013 hPa (Rising). |
| 07:10 |
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|Lupin| |
gutenmorgen kf |
| 07:10 |
|
kf |
guten morgen Lupin |
| 07:41 |
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|Lupin| |
http://pastebin.com/f183370c |
| 07:41 |
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|Lupin| |
can anybody see were the problem could come from ? |
| 07:42 |
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|Lupin| |
the only thing I have changed is the NoZebraIndexes system preference |
| 07:43 |
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|Lupin| |
http://pastebin.com/f4aba2a22 |
| 07:43 |
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|Lupin| |
perhaps there is a missing ' somewhere ? |
| 07:43 |
|
greenmang0_ |
indradg: hello... good afternoon |
| 07:43 |
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|Lupin| |
I can't figure out myself but perhaps one of you can ? |
| 07:43 |
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chris |
looking now |
| 07:46 |
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|Lupin| |
chris: thanks ! |
| 07:46 |
|
chris |
cant see anything obvious, that syspref was the only thing changed? |
| 07:47 |
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|Lupin| |
chris: as far as I can remember, yes |
| 07:47 |
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|Lupin| |
things like independent branches activated... |
| 07:48 |
|
chris |
is there anything in the other error log? |
| 07:48 |
|
chris |
sometimes there is extra info in the main apache error log |
| 07:50 |
|
chris |
sorry, i cant spot anything wrong either |
| 07:51 |
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|Lupin| |
let me see |
| 07:52 |
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|Lupin| |
chris: no, nothing in the main logs, either in apache's log nor in daemon.log and the like |
| 07:59 |
|
Amit |
hi lupin |
| 08:00 |
|
Amit |
@wunder New Delhi |
| 08:00 |
|
munin |
Amit: The current temperature in New Delhi, India is 35.0°C (1:00 PM IST on July 22, 2009). Conditions: Haze. Humidity: 56%. Dew Point: 25.0°C. Pressure: 29.53 in 1000 hPa (Falling). |
| 08:00 |
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|Lupin| |
okay now I restored the default NoZebraIndexes system preference and the error is still there |
| 08:01 |
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|Lupin| |
hi Amit |
| 08:01 |
|
Amit |
hi indradg, greenmang0 |
| 08:01 |
|
chris |
it feels like a broken template |
| 08:02 |
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|Lupin| |
chris: do you think it could have something to do with opacSuppression that I recently activated ? |
| 08:02 |
|
chris |
not sure, try turning it off |
| 08:02 |
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|Lupin| |
chris: good idea, thanks |
| 08:03 |
|
chris |
also, do you have amazon, or syndetics or anything like that? |
| 08:04 |
|
chris |
does it happen when you search, or when you go to the search page? and is it every search? |
| 08:04 |
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|Lupin| |
chris: as far as I know I have nothing such as amazon set up |
| 08:05 |
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|Lupin| |
chris: if it was not set up by default it is not |
| 08:05 |
|
chris |
nope |
| 08:05 |
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|Lupin| |
chris: it happens when a search is performed in the staff client |
| 08:05 |
|
chris |
any search? |
| 08:05 |
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|Lupin| |
chris: I tried just one seach but the catalogue has only 9 records at the moment |
| 08:06 |
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|Lupin| |
chris: is there something special to do after having tuned off opac suppression ? |
| 08:06 |
|
chris |
nope |
| 08:06 |
|
chris |
and id only expect that to effect the opac anyway |
| 08:06 |
|
chris |
does a search in the opac error too? |
| 08:06 |
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|Lupin| |
let me see |
| 08:06 |
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|Lupin| |
yesterday it did |
| 08:07 |
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|Lupin| |
chris: yes, in the opac the search gives back a 404 error |
| 08:08 |
|
chris |
i wonder if its one of the records that it cant parse |
| 08:08 |
|
chris |
the marcxml |
| 08:08 |
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|Lupin| |
chris: well the records have all been bulkmarc imported |
| 08:09 |
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|Lupin| |
and I use them for a few days already without any problem... |
| 08:09 |
|
chris |
weird |
| 08:09 |
|
chris |
so if you do a search that returns no results |
| 08:09 |
|
chris |
does it still error? |
| 08:10 |
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|Lupin| |
let me see |
| 08:11 |
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|Lupin| |
chris: no, no error ! |
| 08:11 |
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chris |
ahh |
| 08:11 |
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|Lupin| |
and btw I'm just doing simple keyword searches |
| 08:11 |
|
chris |
yeah it could be that the record its returning has become corrupt somehow |
| 08:12 |
|
chris |
is there a search you know that will just return 1 record? |
| 08:12 |
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|Lupin| |
chris: shall I upload my file somewhere ? |
| 08:12 |
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|Lupin| |
just 9 records... |
| 08:12 |
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|Lupin| |
it's true that they are partially home-made... |
| 08:12 |
|
chris |
they are all different eh? |
| 08:13 |
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|Lupin| |
chris: I hope so ! |
| 08:13 |
|
chris |
what im trying to find out is if all searches break, or just the search the returns the one bad record |
| 08:13 |
|
chris |
so if there is a way to try a few different searches |
| 08:13 |
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|Lupin| |
chris: your sggestion is that I do a search that shall give as result each record, one by one, till the error is discovered, right ? |
| 08:14 |
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|Lupin| |
chris: sure, I'll try different searches |
| 08:14 |
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chris |
thats the idea :) |
| 08:17 |
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|Lupin| |
chris: I just did 3 searches, and all failed |
| 08:28 |
|
chris |
something weird going on .. they all fail on the opac too eh? |
| 08:28 |
|
chris |
oh |
| 08:28 |
|
chris |
maybe you need to run rebuild_nonzebra ? |
| 08:28 |
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|Lupin| |
hmm |
| 08:29 |
|
chris |
did you do that after putting the default back? |
| 08:29 |
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|Lupin| |
I did it after the bulkmarc import but I can run it once more... |
| 08:29 |
|
chris |
did you do the import before or after you change the syspref? |
| 08:32 |
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|Lupin| |
I think it was before |
| 08:33 |
|
|Lupin| |
the import before changing the syspref |
| 08:33 |
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|Lupin| |
so |
| 08:34 |
|
|Lupin| |
I just ran zebuild-nozebra -r -b again |
| 08:34 |
|
|Lupin| |
and the error is still there |
| 08:34 |
|
chris |
im stumped |
| 08:34 |
|
chris |
:( |
| 08:35 |
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|Lupin| |
hmm DebugLevel is 2 so no hope to increase it |
| 08:36 |
|
|Lupin| |
chris: sorry to annoy you all the time |
| 08:36 |
|
chris |
no problem, wish i knew the answer to this one |
| 08:37 |
|
|Lupin| |
chris: who knows, perhaps it will appear |
| 08:37 |
|
|Lupin| |
I'm pretty sure it's a stupid mistake I have done |
| 08:44 |
|
|Lupin| |
hmm I just checked the marc framework and Koha reported two errors |
| 08:44 |
|
|Lupin| |
can that have a link ? |
| 08:51 |
|
chris |
its possible, but unless you have changed the framework |
| 08:51 |
|
chris |
it should never have worked |
| 08:52 |
|
chris |
ie if it was working, and has stopped, it must be something that has been changed |
| 08:52 |
|
|Lupin| |
k |
| 08:52 |
|
|Lupin| |
anyway |
| 08:52 |
|
|Lupin| |
I think I'm gonna do a dump of the db ai |
| 08:52 |
|
chris |
those 3 searches you tried before |
| 08:52 |
|
|Lupin| |
I think I'm gonna do a dump of the db as it is now |
| 08:53 |
|
|Lupin| |
and just re-install |
| 08:53 |
|
chris |
did they all fail in the opac? |
| 08:53 |
|
|Lupin| |
chris: I didn't try the opac actually |
| 08:53 |
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|Lupin| |
chris: just the staff client |
| 08:54 |
|
|Lupin| |
chris: just tried two of them which failed in OPAC |
| 09:37 |
|
nahuel |
hi chris |
| 09:37 |
|
nahuel |
and |Lupin| |
| 09:37 |
|
nahuel |
what's up guys ? |
| 09:38 |
|
nahuel |
gmcharlt, around ? |
| 09:38 |
|
chris |
he'll still be asleep |
| 09:38 |
|
chris |
its about 5.30am |
| 09:38 |
|
chris |
where he is |
| 09:39 |
|
nahuel |
he should be awake :p |
| 09:40 |
|
chris |
hehe |
| 09:42 |
|
|Lupin| |
hi nahuel! |
| 09:42 |
|
nahuel |
hi |Lupin| :) |
| 09:42 |
|
|Lupin| |
spent the whole night plaing with KOha |
| 09:42 |
|
|Lupin| |
cf. the post the mailing list |
| 09:42 |
|
|Lupin| |
how about you ? |
| 09:43 |
|
nahuel |
cool :) when will you send a patch ? :) |
| 09:45 |
|
chris |
hehe |
| 09:46 |
|
|Lupin| |
nahuel: a patch for what ? |
| 09:46 |
|
nahuel |
for koha ? :) |
| 09:46 |
|
nahuel |
you didn't find any bug ? |
| 09:46 |
|
|Lupin| |
just a quick question about superlibrarian... it is the reunion of all the other permissions, or it has more ? |
| 09:46 |
|
nahuel |
you don't need any improvment? |
| 09:47 |
|
|Lupin| |
nahuel: I sure do, but I'm not yet qualified enough, look how stupid my questions are ! :) |
| 09:47 |
|
nahuel |
héhé this is about your knowledge of koha, but not of bugfixing :) |
| 09:48 |
|
nahuel |
so, superlibrarians are users that have no right restrictions |
| 09:48 |
|
|Lupin| |
nahuel: bugfixing is even worse |
| 09:48 |
|
|Lupin| |
nahuel: sure |
| 09:48 |
|
nahuel |
:) |
| 09:48 |
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|Lupin| |
nahuel: my question was: if you take a user and grant him all the permissions that are listed on the periisson page, is that equivalent to superlibrarian ? |
| 09:49 |
|
nahuel |
I think yes, but i'm not sure :) It's better to check the superlibrarian box :) |
| 09:50 |
|
|Lupin| |
nahuel: it's just that I wanted to avoid having too many persons with this permission |
| 09:51 |
|
nahuel |
ok |
| 10:04 |
|
|Lupin| |
if I submit a patch |
| 10:04 |
|
|Lupin| |
it may be one to add country columns to some tables that, I think, miss one so far |
| 10:12 |
|
nahuel |
you can :) |
| 10:12 |
|
nahuel |
all patches are welcome |
| 10:13 |
|
nahuel |
and chris will be able to add you in the koha's history file |
| 10:16 |
|
chris |
:) |
| 11:30 |
|
|Lupin| |
hi jwagner |
| 11:36 |
|
gmcharlt |
hi folks |
| 11:38 |
|
|Lupin| |
hi gmcharlt |
| 11:38 |
|
jwagner |
Hi Lupin & gmcharlt |
| 11:46 |
|
chris |
morning north americans :) |
| 11:47 |
|
jdavidb |
Howdy, chris. :) |
| 11:47 |
|
jwagner |
Good evening (I think?) chris |
| 11:47 |
|
chris |
yeah, nearly midnight |
| 11:47 |
|
chris |
ill be hitting the hay very soon |
| 11:48 |
|
jwagner |
(Yawn) and I'm not awake yet. Being at the office and online is not an indication of consciousness.... |
| 11:49 |
|
gmcharlt |
I for one, welcome our caffeine-deprived overlords |
| 11:50 |
|
chris |
hehe |
| 11:50 |
|
ebegin |
hi #koha |
| 11:51 |
|
chris |
i unfortunately have had too much caffeine, hence still being awake |
| 11:53 |
|
jwagner |
Caffeine just gives the *illusion* of waking me up. |
| 11:54 |
|
chris |
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M[…]er_(energy_drink) |
| 11:54 |
|
chris |
160mg of caffeine and 2000mg of taurine |
| 11:54 |
|
chris |
it was that or fall asleep at my desk tho hehe |
| 11:54 |
|
jwagner |
That sounds...lethal! |
| 11:55 |
|
chris |
seemed like a good idea at the time |
| 11:55 |
|
chris |
hehe |
| 11:59 |
|
chris |
ohh thats awesome |
| 11:59 |
|
chris |
http://twitter.com/oscon/status/2771119439 |
