| Time |
S |
Nick |
Message |
| 12:04 |
|
hdl_laptop |
git format-patch -3 |
| 12:04 |
|
hdl_laptop |
works too |
| 12:09 |
|
gmcharlt |
hdl_laptop: so opac-dictionary.pl and dictionary.pl can be removed? |
| 12:10 |
|
hdl_laptop |
it was already broken in 2.2 |
| 12:23 |
|
gmcharlt |
Hui_Nan_: will you be sending your patches to patches koha.org? |
| 12:29 |
|
Hui_Nan_ |
thank you for asking |
| 12:29 |
|
Hui_Nan_ |
I sent them to koha-patcheslists.koha.org |
| 12:30 |
|
Hui_Nan_ |
am I wrong? |
| 12:33 |
|
Hui_Nan_ |
gmcharlt: ? |
| 12:35 |
|
ebegin |
Hui_Nan_, the email to send patch to is patcheskoha.org. koha-patches is a mailing list on which the applied patches are sent |
| 12:35 |
|
Hui_Nan_ |
ok |
| 12:39 |
|
Hui_Nan_ |
so, patches sent to the patcheskoha.org are reviewed by QAM and if accepted - they published to koha-patches or what? |
| 12:39 |
|
slef |
yes |
| 12:40 |
|
slef |
except that it is the RMs reviewing at the mo because there is no QAM |
| 12:45 |
|
schuster |
Morning all! |
| 12:45 |
|
Hui_Nan_ |
good evening schuster %-) |
| 12:45 |
|
ebegin |
hi david |
| 12:46 |
|
hdl_laptop |
hi david |
| 12:47 |
|
Hui_Nan_ |
CY, all! |
| 13:17 |
|
hdl_laptop |
bbs |
| 14:23 |
|
ebegin |
atz, in the Koha 2.0 LDAP Configuration, there is a note by the userid field mentionning # UNIQUE in next release. I think that it is now the case, right? |
| 14:23 |
|
ebegin |
http://wiki.koha.org/doku.php?[…]:development:ldap |
| 14:39 |
|
ebegin |
Anyone is using a LDAP server (or had setup one)? |
| 14:47 |
|
atz |
ebegin: koha userid must be unique, but the mapping to your schema could target any unique attribute |
| 14:49 |
|
ebegin |
ok. thanks. On another, but related topic, which dateexpiry do you set to the borrowers? |
| 14:54 |
|
hdl_laptop |
ebegin: it all depends on your mapping ;) |
| 14:55 |
|
hdl_laptop |
you can take a date from ldap or let Koha calculate. (Would need a patch to allow that though) |
| 14:56 |
|
wizzyrea |
mornin peps |
| 14:56 |
|
wizzyrea |
we're having a kegger today |
| 14:56 |
|
wizzyrea |
:) |
| 14:56 |
|
wizzyrea |
(koha explorers group) |
| 14:59 |
|
ebegin |
I think that I'll let Koha compute it though, using the default category enrollment period. |
| 14:59 |
|
ebegin |
hi wizzyrea! |
| 15:01 |
|
wizzyrea |
gmcharlt: re: messaging enhancement, you want us to set up the defaults in Test right? |
| 15:01 |
|
gmcharlt |
wizzyrea: hmm, not necessarily |
| 15:02 |
|
gmcharlt |
will need to be done in production in order to update the patrons |
| 15:02 |
|
wizzyrea |
okies |
| 15:02 |
|
wizzyrea |
we'll send you email to confirm putting it on the production server then |
| 15:02 |
|
wizzyrea |
:) |
| 15:02 |
|
gmcharlt |
also, since installing it in production does mean that you'll be getting the accumulated bug fixes |
| 15:03 |
|
gmcharlt |
please make sure that you're set up for those as well |
| 15:03 |
|
wizzyrea |
oki, is there a list (or where will it stop on the Git list) |
| 15:03 |
|
wizzyrea |
of the updates |
| 15:05 |
|
wizzyrea |
i'm pondering a template "reset" and re-evaluating all of the changes we've made |
| 15:05 |
|
gmcharlt |
wizzyrea: yeah, I sent one to mickey |
| 15:05 |
|
wizzyrea |
and setting up version control at the same time possibly |
| 15:05 |
|
gmcharlt |
and +1 to template reset and version control |
| 15:05 |
|
gmcharlt |
but then, I don't expect you're surprised to hear me say that ;) |
| 15:05 |
|
wizzyrea |
hehe no, not surprised at all |
| 15:05 |
|
wizzyrea |
probably good to do periodically anyway |
| 15:06 |
|
wizzyrea |
even the best human sometimes isn't as good as the computer ^.^ |
| 15:06 |
|
schuster |
Do you post the notes from your Keggers meetings? |
| 15:06 |
|
wizzyrea |
yea, at www.nexpresslibrary.org |
| 15:06 |
|
wizzyrea |
later today |
| 15:06 |
|
schuster |
Do you have them on a Schedule? in case someone might want to sometime attend? |
| 15:07 |
|
wizzyrea |
i'm still giggling about the wisconsin ppls |
| 15:07 |
|
wizzyrea |
Wiske. *giggle* |
| 15:07 |
|
wizzyrea |
yea, we meant to post this one but we had an agenda production fail |
| 15:07 |
|
wizzyrea |
er, the organizers did |
| 15:08 |
|
wizzyrea |
sorry about that >.< |
| 15:10 |
|
wizzyrea |
gmcharlt: I'll need a little help with what I'm doing with Git, it's not something I use everyday (yet) |
| 15:10 |
|
gmcharlt |
wizzyrea: sure |
| 15:10 |
|
wizzyrea |
but I'll get with you later about that (and yes, I've read the wiki lol) |
| 15:11 |
|
rhcl |
wiz: are your keggers open for others to attend? |
| 15:11 |
|
gmcharlt |
and what a fine wiki it is ;) |
| 15:11 |
|
wizzyrea |
absolutely |
| 15:11 |
|
wizzyrea |
we have them (er, have been having them) fairly regularly, rhcl |
| 15:12 |
|
rhcl |
well, uh, however correctly I can put this...we'd like to attend. |
| 15:12 |
|
schuster |
wiz what do you mean by regular.. |
| 15:13 |
|
wizzyrea |
bi-monthly |
| 15:13 |
|
wizzyrea |
ish |
| 15:15 |
|
Sharon |
Wow, there are like 15 folks here... |
| 15:16 |
|
ebegin |
wizzyrea, are you the one who records the videos? |
| 15:16 |
|
hdl_laptop |
Sharon: all the ppl are not talking. |
| 15:17 |
|
Sharon |
Sorry, I meant physically here at our KEGger meeting. Lots of Kansas libraries using Koha. |
| 15:17 |
|
rhcl |
Are you going to tweet the meeting? |
| 15:17 |
|
rhcl |
:) |
| 15:19 |
|
wizzyrea |
not usually... rhcl I can certainly try to tweet the meeting |
| 15:19 |
|
rhcl |
I not much of a tweeter to be honest... |
| 15:20 |
|
rhcl |
But if you had been planning to do it anyway, I might have monitored. I have stuff to do off this computer since I'm going on vacation tomorrow. |
| 15:21 |
|
wizzyrea |
I'll tag #509kegger |
| 15:22 |
|
pianohacker |
Ah, a KEGger? When? |
| 15:23 |
|
schuster |
Right now... ;( |
| 15:23 |
|
pianohacker |
Oi, okay |
| 15:24 |
|
schuster |
wizzyrea - I need to pick your brain on how you modified the advanced search in the catalog and moved the library/sort up by the search options. |
| 15:24 |
|
schuster |
I'll drop you an email... |
| 15:24 |
|
wizzyrea |
oki, I think that's a template update that was included in a patch we got lately |
| 15:24 |
|
wizzyrea |
but not sure |
| 15:24 |
|
wizzyrea |
happy to help tho :) |
| 15:25 |
|
schuster |
I'm just learning layout stuff... |
| 15:25 |
|
schuster |
Cool - you are ahead of me on template updates I think right now... |
| 15:29 |
|
wizzyrea |
/w atz would you check the SIP server for NEKLS plz, I'm getting reports of Send/Expect fails :( |
| 15:29 |
|
wizzyrea |
erg lol |
| 15:45 |
|
Sharon |
http://lybrarian.wordpress.com/ < I'm trying to blog the kegger |
| 15:59 |
|
atz |
hrmmm... no webpages loading for me.... i think the ISP's DNS are down.... |
| 16:10 |
|
Sharon_ |
Liz is explaining bugzilla |
| 16:32 |
|
joetho |
Hi liz |
| 16:35 |
|
joetho |
Hello LIZ |
| 16:35 |
|
lizzy |
hi folks |
| 16:35 |
|
lizzy |
this is liz from NEKLS, say hi to the KEGGER participants :D |
| 16:35 |
|
pianohacker |
'allo! |
| 16:35 |
|
owen |
Hi KEGgers! |
| 16:35 |
|
gmcharlt |
hello |
| 16:37 |
|
joetho |
What are you working on, pnohakr? |
| 16:37 |
|
lizzy |
I can't remember, is the date range inclusive or exclusive? |
| 16:37 |
|
lizzy |
for circulation reports |
| 16:38 |
|
slef |
joetho: your keyboard appears to be losing characters |
| 16:39 |
|
lizzy |
slef: intentional I think |
| 16:39 |
|
pianohacker |
joetho: Some holds stuff |
| 16:39 |
|
joetho |
I have been losing character for a long time. |
| 16:39 |
|
joetho |
we are introducing a roomful of koha users to IRC |
| 16:40 |
|
rhcl |
KEG KEG KEG! Go! Go! Go! |
| 16:40 |
|
pianohacker |
Ah, this might be useful then: http://wiki.koha.org/doku.php?id=irc_regulars |
| 16:41 |
|
owen |
If Ohio had enough Koha users we could have OEGer meetings. |
| 16:41 |
|
owen |
Oh dang the K isn't for Kansas. :( |
| 16:42 |
|
lizzy |
yea, anybody can have keggers |
| 16:42 |
|
lizzy |
:D |
| 16:44 |
|
lizzy |
gmcharlt: are the votes on bugzilla 200 forever or 200 resetting after a certain time? |
| 16:45 |
|
gmcharlt |
lizzy: for all time; you can reallocate your votes at any time |
| 16:45 |
|
lizzy |
oh, sweet |
| 16:46 |
|
lizzy |
thanks :) |
| 16:52 |
|
lizzy |
ttyl, LUNCH! Woo! |
| 16:52 |
|
lizzy |
thanks peps |
| 16:52 |
|
owen |
Aw man, we don't get to come to lunch too? |
| 16:53 |
|
wizzyrea |
lol owen |
| 16:53 |
|
pianohacker |
I think if we showed up in person, we _could_ have lunch |
| 16:53 |
|
slef |
gmcharlt: do you get CLOSED bug votes back? |
| 16:53 |
|
wizzyrea |
they had really no idea about all of the ins and outs of bugzilla, git, irc, etc. Consider them somewhat more educated :D |
| 16:53 |
|
owen |
slef: good question! |
| 16:53 |
|
wizzyrea |
Yes, you do |
| 16:53 |
|
slef |
(would be a good way to encourage closure) |
| 16:53 |
|
wizzyrea |
slef++ |
| 16:54 |
|
gmcharlt |
slef: you can grab them back, sure - not sure if they automatically come back |
| 16:57 |
|
pianohacker |
All this talk of lunch reminds me that I should probably eat a late breakfast |
| 16:57 |
|
pianohacker |
brb |
| 17:03 |
|
atz |
slef: good question |
| 17:03 |
|
atz |
(sorry if i missed the answer during that disconnection) |
| 17:06 |
|
gmcharlt |
atz: answer is ou can grab them back, sure - not sure if they automatically come back |
| 17:06 |
|
atz |
"unvote" |
| 17:07 |
|
atz |
funny b/c "devote" is the opposite of the negation that the term wants |
| 17:08 |
|
atz |
if you "devote" a vote, you vote it. |
| 17:10 |
|
pianohacker |
Slightly abtruse terminology in Bugzilla? Never! |
| 17:14 |
|
wizzyrea |
lulz |
| 17:23 |
|
pianohacker |
Hmm, reserve/placerequest.pl seems to be assuming that bib# = bibitem# |
| 17:25 |
|
pianohacker |
I think that was marked as not safe, right? |
| 17:43 |
|
atz |
pianohacker: yeah, it *should* be the same, but it isn't guaranteed currenly |
| 17:46 |
|
pianohacker |
Ah, that's right |
| 17:46 |
|
pianohacker |
I'm going to make that assumption; GetReserveFee is difficult enough already |
| 17:51 |
|
gmcharlt |
pianohacker: sorry, please don't |
| 17:51 |
|
pianohacker |
Ah, problems? |
| 17:51 |
|
gmcharlt |
there are a lot of databases in the wild where that assumption doesn't hold true |
| 17:54 |
|
pianohacker |
Easy enough to work around. Just out of curiosity, what's causing it? |
| 17:55 |
|
gmcharlt |
mostly the fact that nothing's enforcing it; one slip during migration, and the sequences get out of sync forever |
| 17:57 |
|
pianohacker |
Hmm, none of those databases would be able to place holds. That's rather frightening |
| 18:11 |
|
pianohacker |
gmcharlt: Thanks |
| 18:20 |
|
joetho |
missed you guys at lunch. It was a very talky one! |
| 18:25 |
|
wizzyrea |
does anybody know about the staff XSLT and the 245 field? specifically whether the p and n fields will be shown? i'm on terribly slow internet |
| 18:25 |
|
wizzyrea |
they want to show 245p, n, and b |
| 18:25 |
|
wizzyrea |
in the results and on the detail |
| 18:26 |
|
gmcharlt |
wizzyrea: should be there now, or else there's a pending patch - I forget which |
| 18:27 |
|
wizzyrea |
i'm guessing it's pending it's not in our catalog (though we're behind) |
| 18:37 |
|
wizzyrea |
the commit you're thinking of is for opac only I think |
| 18:37 |
|
wizzyrea |
if it's http://git.koha.org/cgi-bin/gi[…]ef507303316702966 |
| 18:37 |
|
ccurry |
Has anyone integrated Koha 3 with Windows Active Directory LDAP? I've been trying to do so, following the documentation at http://wiki.koha.org/doku.php?[…]:development:ldap, but I'm getting the following error after saving /etc/koha3/koha-conf.xml: |
| 18:37 |
|
ccurry |
" |
| 18:37 |
|
ccurry |
The following fatal error has occurred: |
| 18:37 |
|
ccurry |
Extra content at the end of the document |
| 18:38 |
|
ccurry |
at /usr/lib/perl5/XML/LibXML/SAX.pm line 64 |
| 18:38 |
|
ccurry |
at /usr/share/perl5/XML/Simple.pm line 287 |
| 18:38 |
|
ccurry |
BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /usr/share/koha3/lib/C4/Auth.pm line 29. |
| 18:38 |
|
ccurry |
Compilation failed in require at /usr/share/koha3/intranet/cgi-bin/members/member.pl line 26. |
| 18:38 |
|
ccurry |
BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /usr/share/koha3/intranet/cgi-bin/members/member.pl line 26. |
| 18:38 |
|
ccurry |
" |
| 18:38 |
|
pianohacker |
ccurry: If you have long errors to show, please put them on http://pastebin.ca/ |
| 18:38 |
|
ccurry |
ok...sorry about that. |
| 18:40 |
|
ccurry |
http://pastebin.ca/1427715 |
| 18:41 |
|
gmcharlt |
ccurry: my guess is that koha-conf.xml is no longer well-formed |
| 18:41 |
|
gmcharlt |
ccurry: if you have xmllint, try running koha-conf.xml through it |
| 18:41 |
|
pianohacker |
np, not that big a deal :) |
| 18:42 |
|
ccurry |
@gmcharlt Thanks; should have checked that first, I suppose. |
| 18:45 |
|
ccurry |
gmcharlt: That was it...now I feel foolish. I forgot to close a tag...thanks for pointing me in the right direction. |
| 19:01 |
|
ccurry |
Well-formed xml got me to the next error: http://pastebin.ca/1427732 |
| 19:01 |
|
ccurry |
Can someone have a look at my ldap config and verify I've used the right syntax. It looks right to me, but something is obviously not right. Any thoughts: http://pastebin.ca/1427730 |
| 19:03 |
|
ccurry |
The ALL-CAPS data, of course, has real data in my config. |
| 19:08 |
|
ebegin |
ccurry, can you double check the info in the <base> tag? |
| 19:08 |
|
ebegin |
You have 2 DC |
| 19:09 |
|
ebegin |
forget that.. it's ok |
| 19:10 |
|
ebegin |
just to be sure, do you have the <useldapserver>1</useldapserver> |
| 19:11 |
|
ccurry |
<base> tag is right as far as I can tell, but I'll check the AD export to be sure i got the syntax right. |
| 19:11 |
|
ccurry |
and yes. |
| 19:11 |
|
ccurry |
I did add <useldapserver>1</useldapserver> to the <config> tag. |
| 19:15 |
|
ccurry |
Turns out my <base> tag wasn't quite right, but I fixed it and I get the same error, starting on the same line of Carp.pm. |
| 19:19 |
|
gmcharlt |
ccurry: I think <ldapserver> needs to be inside <config> |
| 19:19 |
|
ccurry |
Ah. I'll try that... |
| 19:21 |
|
ccurry |
Got a different error; looks like you are correct. Thanks for the help. I'll see if I can' figure it out from here. |
| 19:21 |
|
ccurry |
:(|) |
| 19:29 |
|
ebegin |
Goodluck ccurry! |
| 19:30 |
|
ccurry |
Thanks! |
| 19:53 |
|
schuster |
I've modified this page and added a link for enhancements with directions thoughts? http://wiki.koha.org/doku.php?[…]portingfornewbies |
| 19:53 |
|
SelfishMan |
oh hai |
| 19:53 |
|
schuster |
I'll also post it to the koha-devel list later today. For some reason I can't get into that email account at the minute. |
| 19:53 |
|
SelfishMan |
Somehow this channel was buried in my irssi channel list |
| 20:02 |
|
CGI234 |
sf |
| 20:07 |
|
chris |
brrrrr its cold |
| 20:07 |
|
ebegin |
chris, I bet that it's colder overhere... |
| 20:08 |
|
chris |
probably |
| 20:08 |
|
ebegin |
:) |
| 20:08 |
|
chris |
though today we have a southerly |
| 20:08 |
|
chris |
and there is nothing between my house an antartica |
| 20:09 |
|
chris |
an=and |
| 20:09 |
|
chris |
so the wind can be pretty cold |
| 20:09 |
|
owen |
Wow, that's quite a way to think about it! |
| 20:09 |
|
chris |
well theres a lot of ocean ;) |
| 20:09 |
|
chris |
to be truthful |
| 20:10 |
|
schuster |
80 degrees F here... I like my Texas weather thanks... |
| 20:10 |
|
ebegin |
hehe... well.. there is a lot of thing between my house and north pole, so you win ;) |
| 20:10 |
|
chris |
you are in montreal eh ebegin ? |
| 20:10 |
|
ebegin |
yes |
| 20:11 |
|
chris |
i work with someone from around that area too |
| 20:12 |
|
ebegin |
really? who? |
| 20:12 |
|
chris |
francois marier |
| 20:12 |
|
chris |
(lives in nz now) |
| 20:12 |
|
ebegin |
nice! |
| 20:13 |
|
ebegin |
Based on his name, he is probably speak french too |
| 20:13 |
|
chris |
he sure does :) |
| 20:14 |
|
chris |
he works mostly on moodle and mahara |
| 20:14 |
|
chris |
so i dont see him much during the week, but i talk to him every friday at beer oclock :) |
| 20:15 |
|
ebegin |
hehe... beer oclock.. I like that |
| 20:16 |
|
ebegin |
I hope he is a nice guy |
| 20:16 |
|
chris |
he sure is, he is a debian developer too, so very helpful to know |
| 20:18 |
|
chris |
schuster: wiki pages look great ! |
| 20:20 |
|
schuster |
Step one in the process... Tomorrow I'm going to work on getting a committee together. |
| 20:21 |
|
schuster |
Talk to ya tomorrow! |
| 20:28 |
|
ccurry |
ok...one more question. I've exhausted my troubleshooting abilities. I'm getting this error: http://pastebin.ca/1427806. It's referring to my default value in ldapserver/mapping/categorycode. All of the users in our LDAP directory are staff and there is no field in Active Directory that I can map here, so I've used the value "S" from the borrowers table. Any thoughts? |
| 20:29 |
|
pianohacker |
As I understand it, you need to add an "is" attribute to the categorycode tag in your mapping |
| 20:30 |
|
pianohacker |
I think it can refer to a nonexistent field |
| 20:30 |
|
ebegin |
ccurry, try <categorycode is="">S</categorycode> |
| 20:33 |
|
pianohacker |
Either way looks safe, from a quick scan of the source |
| 20:33 |
|
ccurry |
ebegin: that worked! Thanks! |
| 20:34 |
|
ccurry |
pianohacker: Thanks! |
| 20:34 |
|
pianohacker |
no problem |
| 21:13 |
|
pianohacker |
bye |
| 21:26 |
|
chris |
ohhh handy |
| 21:26 |
|
chris |
http://gmailblog.blogspot.com/[…]atic-message.html |
| 21:35 |
|
ort9217 |
indeeeeed... |
| 21:39 |
|
ebegin |
it is always a question of the quality of the automatique translation... |
| 21:40 |
|
Jo |
morning |
| 21:40 |
|
chris |
hey jo |
| 22:00 |
|
chris |
cant stay away pianohacker ? |
| 22:02 |
|
pianohacker |
Nope :) |
| 00:08 |
|
ryan |
lol... "Blorg! AIYA!!!" |
| 00:09 |
|
chris |
?? |
| 00:10 |
|
chris |
ahh ;) |
| 00:58 |
|
mason |
i have a pretty basic and stupid circ question.. |
| 00:59 |
|
mason |
in koha3-stable - how can i allow check-outs to a patron, if they current have overdue items? |
| 00:59 |
|
pianohacker |
Does this patron have fines |
| 00:59 |
|
pianohacker |
? |
| 01:00 |
|
mason |
nope |
| 01:00 |
|
mason |
heya jesse ;) |
| 01:00 |
|
pianohacker |
Hey mason :) |
| 01:01 |
|
pianohacker |
Is there no barcode entry box at all, or does it pop up an error when you scan an item? |
| 01:01 |
|
brendan |
once you get to the checkout screen -- I think there should be something you can click on (a little hyperlink) that should unbar (un-debar) them |
| 01:01 |
|
brendan |
heya mason |
| 01:01 |
|
brendan |
pianohacker |
| 01:01 |
|
pianohacker |
heylo |
| 01:01 |
|
mason |
oops, my bad! |
| 01:01 |
|
brendan |
at least (I think I remember that being a question one time) |
| 01:02 |
|
mason |
a 'localized' mod broke this :/ |
| 01:02 |
|
pianohacker |
Ah |
| 01:02 |
|
pianohacker |
I'd better log off for the evening. Good night, all |
| 01:02 |
|
brendan |
cool |
| 01:02 |
|
brendan |
goodnight |
| 01:02 |
|
pianohacker |
bye |
| 01:03 |
|
brendan |
how you doing mason? |
| 01:05 |
|
mason |
heya , good thanks |
| 01:10 |
|
mason |
sorry, was debugging.. |
| 01:12 |
|
mason |
somehow in my Circ::sub CanBookBeIssued { ) sub.. |
| 01:12 |
|
mason |
ive picked up a bloclk that calls .. |
| 01:12 |
|
mason |
my ($blocktype, $count) = C4::Members::IsMemberBlocked($borrower->{'borrowernumber'}); if($blocktype == -1){ |
| 01:13 |
|
mason |
. |
| 01:13 |
|
mason |
which doesnt seem to exist in lastest stable or head, did i add this code locally myself ?!? |
| 01:14 |
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chris |
git blame |
| 01:14 |
|
mason |
oooh, me goggles... |
| 01:16 |
|
mason |
0060634c (Nahuel ANGELINETTI 2009-01-28 10:37:02 +0100 704) my ($blocktype, $count) = C4::Members::IsMemberBlocked($borrower->{'borrowernumber'}); |
| 01:16 |
|
mason |
. |
| 01:16 |
|
mason |
wow, that is one sweet trick , chris++ |
| 01:21 |
|
mason |
looks like that commit has introduced a bug in circ.. |
| 01:21 |
|
mason |
http://git.koha.org/cgi-bin/gi[…]103;hb=3.0.x#l704 |
| 01:40 |
|
mason |
so if anyone is listening re: my previous circ bug.. |
| 01:40 |
|
mason |
this commit here.... |
| 01:40 |
|
mason |
http://git.koha.org/cgi-bin/gi[…]4e3c8f87e5372b564 |
| 01:41 |
|
mason |
there are sysprefs that override and allow issuing - even with outstanding overdues... |
| 01:42 |
|
mason |
this commit doesnt check for those sysprefs, and stops check-outs |
| 01:42 |
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chris |
sounds like a bug that needs to be fixed |
| 01:43 |
|
mason |
now - im not yet too sure *what* the sysprefs are, to be checked |
| 03:20 |
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Amit |
hi chris, brendan, mason good morning |
| 03:27 |
|
Jo |
Morning AMit |
| 03:35 |
|
Amit |
hi jo |
| 03:38 |
|
brendan |
heya amit |
| 03:38 |
|
brendan |
hi jo |
| 03:41 |
|
Jo |
hi brendan |
| 06:02 |
|
mason |
chris: about? |
| 06:52 |
|
chris |
am now |
| 06:52 |
|
chris |
for a bit before bath time |
| 08:23 |
|
slef |
blurgh |
| 08:24 |
|
chris |
? |
| 08:24 |
|
slef |
woke up this morning feeling slime (to the tune of "something tells me I'm into something good") |
| 08:25 |
|
slef |
anyway, our new website is already gathering more enquiries, which is good |
| 08:25 |
|
chris |
that is good |
| 08:26 |
|
slef |
and bizarrely it's from an organisation I had contact with during my doctorate |
| 08:26 |
|
slef |
(which means it's on the other coast, but hey ho) |
| 08:39 |
|
slef |
about to open my koha list mailbox. Wish me luck! |
| 08:42 |
|
chris |
its pretty quiet today |
| 08:43 |
|
slef |
not opened since the weekend |
| 08:45 |
|
chris |
ahh probably only one annoying one then :) |
| 09:01 |
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slef |
ah no wait - opened and read a few Monday |
| 09:01 |
|
slef |
but who cares? :) |
| 09:01 |
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chris |
:) |
| 09:03 |
|
kf |
test loading authority data today :) |
| 09:03 |
|
kf |
chris: wie gehts dir? |
| 09:03 |
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slef |
kf: oooh! ooooh! oooooh! MARC21? |
| 09:03 |
|
kf |
yes |
| 09:03 |
|
slef |
3.0? |
| 09:04 |
|
kf |
HEAD |
| 09:04 |
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chris |
kf: ahua pai, kei te ngenge au :) |
| 09:04 |
|
kf |
found out that $0 is not supported yet, there is a faq from nicole about using $9 instead |
| 09:04 |
|
slef |
chris: mluvite anglicky |
| 09:04 |
|
slef |
kf: FAQ URL? |
| 09:04 |
|
kf |
mom |
| 09:05 |
|
slef |
tyvm |
| 09:05 |
|
kf |
http://new.koha.org/documentat[…]?searchterm=auth* |
| 09:06 |
|
slef |
chris: nicht schlect, ein bisschen ... dang, can't remembered tired |
| 09:06 |
|
slef |
yep, HEAD auth control is a rewrite |
| 09:06 |
|
kf |
müde |
| 09:07 |
|
slef |
at least I think it is |
| 09:07 |
|
kf |
nicht schlecht, ein bisschen müde |
| 09:07 |
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slef |
kf: my unicode is broken too |
| 09:07 |
|
kf |
you guys are good! |
| 09:08 |
|
slef |
I suspect one would say "I have tiredness" usually but I can't remember |
| 09:08 |
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kf |
slev: tyvm? I think thats a new one for my vocabulary list |
| 09:08 |
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slef |
I only ever watch TV in German now |
| 09:08 |
|
slef |
kf: doing a bsc and phd at uea, tlas are aok |
| 09:09 |
|
kf |
ok, trying to follow you slef: marc21 auth import broken? |
| 09:10 |
|
slef |
actually, AuthoritiesMarc is refactored but not much different |
| 09:10 |
|
slef |
no |
| 09:10 |
|
slef |
marc21 auth display is much weaker than UNIMARC |
| 09:10 |
|
kf |
hm |
| 09:11 |
|
chris |
nose_tweak++ |
| 09:11 |
|
slef |
and AuthoritiesMarc seems to have hardcoded HTML in it |
| 09:11 |
|
slef |
this is a problem for me to fix soon |
| 09:11 |
|
kf |
nice to hear that |
| 09:11 |
|
kf |
changing source code is something we try to avoid right now |
| 09:11 |
|
slef |
I think marc21 only does See/See Also |
| 09:12 |
|
kf |
still hoping that it will work out of the box ;) |
| 09:12 |
|
slef |
while unimarc does a full range of NT, BT, UF and so on |
| 09:12 |
|
slef |
USE, RT, ... |
| 09:12 |
|
slef |
TR, SN, ... sure I'm still missing some |
| 09:12 |
|
slef |
I've been working on this too much this week :) |
| 09:13 |
|
slef |
probably still missed something |
| 09:15 |
|
slef |
biab |
| 09:18 |
|
kf |
will this be part of 3.2 then? |
| 09:20 |
|
kf |
promised authority data for end of year / perhaps beginning next year, but those "German changes" to MARC21 give me some headache - authority id-numbers, hierarchical titles, missing descriptors... |
| 09:22 |
|
kf |
hm, what are those . ; : at end of fields are called? |
| 09:24 |
|
hdl_laptop |
signs ? |
| 09:26 |
|
kf |
hi hdl |
| 09:27 |
|
kf |
when used in MARC21,for example: 245 10$aCancer research : |
| 09:27 |
|
kf |
there is a : at the end of the field, but I dont know how to call them |
| 09:27 |
|
chris |
colon |
| 09:27 |
|
chris |
is the english name for : |
| 09:27 |
|
kf |
yes, but isn't there a word for those signs in MARC21 context? |
| 09:28 |
|
kf |
German word is "Deskriptionszeichen" |
| 09:28 |
|
chris |
you only have a : an the a |
| 09:28 |
|
chris |
if there is a $b field |
| 09:28 |
|
chris |
(subtitle) |
| 09:28 |
|
chris |
because when it displays in most systems it displays title : subtitle |
| 09:29 |
|
kf |
yes, I found that out. I got data from our union catalog where all those signs are missing |
| 09:29 |
|
chris |
its to do with the ISBD and old card catalogue days |
| 09:30 |
|
kf |
and wondered if there is a special name for them in MARC21 context |
| 09:30 |
|
chris |
nope |
| 09:30 |
|
kf |
ok |
| 09:30 |
|
chris |
not as far as i know |
| 09:31 |
|
chris |
In records formulated according to ISBD principles, subfield $a includes all data up to and including the next mark of ISBD punctuation (a colon (:) when subfield $a is followed by subfield $b, a semicolon (;) when subfield $a is followed by another subfield $a, and a comma (,) when subfield $a is followed by subfield $c). |
| 09:31 |
|
chris |
MARC is retarded |
| 09:31 |
|
chris |
thats what R stands for :) |
| 09:31 |
|
chris |
Most Annoying Retarded Catalogue |
| 09:32 |
|
chris |
everytime i read the rules for it, it reminds me how annoying it is :) |
| 09:32 |
|
kf |
I will quote you |
| 09:32 |
|
chris |
heh |
| 09:33 |
|
kf |
and it doesn't help that Germany is switching to MARC and Koha is one of the first systems we test our data with |
| 09:34 |
|
chris |
yeah |
| 09:34 |
|
chris |
makes it harder when you are learning 2 things at once |
| 09:36 |
|
kf |
and documentation is in English |
| 09:36 |
|
chris |
i hope your bosses appreciate how hard you are working :) |
| 09:37 |
|
kf |
dont know, but I will better start working now and read some more MARC21 documentation |
| 09:39 |
|
chris |
good luck |
| 09:40 |
|
kf |
thx chris |
| 09:48 |
|
slef |
it still freaks me out when people are discussing MARC in seminars |
| 09:48 |
|
slef |
even though I call myself MJ |
| 09:50 |
|
chris |
heh |
| 11:29 |
|
gmcharlt |
good morning |
| 11:30 |
|
gmcharlt |
slef: I'll make sure that the next KohaCon you're able to attend has at least one session on MARC :) |
