| Time |
S |
Nick |
Message |
| 12:28 |
|
gmcharlt |
good morning |
| 12:31 |
|
hdl_laptop |
hi gm |
| 13:14 |
|
ort9217 |
hi, anyone in here right now that might be able to answer some questions of mine? |
| 13:15 |
|
hdl_laptop |
some of us are here. |
| 13:15 |
|
ort9217 |
ok, cool |
| 13:15 |
|
ort9217 |
so i was wondering if its possible to dictate the path of the opac |
| 13:16 |
|
ort9217 |
for example, have it be http://<hostname>/<something i dictate> |
| 13:16 |
|
ort9217 |
and then have some other web service run on the server |
| 13:16 |
|
ort9217 |
and have it serve up / |
| 13:17 |
|
ort9217 |
like, say, mediawiki? |
| 13:17 |
|
ort9217 |
i know with evergreen, it isn't possible |
| 13:17 |
|
ort9217 |
it "totally hijacks apache," so to speak |
| 13:18 |
|
ort9217 |
the best you can do is put some html/php docs in /openils/var/web/otherStuffThatIsntOpac |
| 13:19 |
|
ort9217 |
or else symlink that to some dir elsewhere |
| 13:20 |
|
slefmobile |
hi all - not tried IRC from pidgin before |
| 13:20 |
|
paul_p |
hi slefmobile :D |
| 13:20 |
|
paul_p |
(all: slef is sitting on the chair right from me :D ) |
| 13:21 |
|
owen |
Hi slefmobile and paul_p. Where are you guys? |
| 13:21 |
|
slefmobile |
openlibraries.eu London event |
| 13:21 |
|
slefmobile |
I beat paul_p at typing |
| 13:21 |
|
paul_p |
:D |
| 13:21 |
|
slefmobile |
noisy venue at lunch, so with my French and his English => hopeless |
| 13:23 |
|
gmcharlt |
ort9217: with some Apache config work, you can server other apps off of the same virtual host that serves the Koha OPAC |
| 13:23 |
|
slefmobile |
paul_p just got picked out as koha's RM in reply by a PTFS developer to a question |
| 13:23 |
|
gmcharlt |
PTFS seems a bit out of date :) |
| 13:23 |
|
slefmobile |
to be frank, I'd be going slightly crimson with irritation if I hadn't seen it all before |
| 13:24 |
|
slefmobile |
lots of slightly-wrong info being disseminated |
| 13:24 |
|
slefmobile |
South West Wales Higher Ed Partnership introducing the Virtual Academic Library now.. might or might not be anything to do with us |
| 13:24 |
|
gmcharlt |
ort9217: and you can probably mod_rewrite your way into having a http://<hostname>/<whatever you want> for the OPAC, but there will still be a lot of links to /cgi-bin/koha/foo |
| 13:25 |
|
slefmobile |
You could overcome that with mod_proxy_html but it really is tons simpler to use a few extra VirtualHosts |
| 13:26 |
|
slefmobile |
(sorry I missed the start of the Q) |
| 13:26 |
|
slefmobile |
just remembered how to connect to slef... brbr |
| 13:27 |
|
slef |
aha |
| 13:32 |
|
slef |
well that stopped the conversation... even paul_p put his laptop down now |
| 13:45 |
|
owen |
I wonder if this is an example of Bug 3219? http://acpl.kohalibrary.com/cg[…]blionumber=208592 |
| 13:45 |
|
owen |
...and I wonder if there's any way to tell without seeing the log? |
| 13:48 |
|
gmcharlt |
owen: possibly - twiddling the Amazon syspref would probably answer |
| 13:54 |
|
owen |
Hmmm...that was weird. The only thing that changed when I turned off Amazon content was that I was prompted to download the Perl script instead of just getting nothing. |
| 13:56 |
|
slef |
owen: that means the script crashed with 0 bytes output most times |
| 13:56 |
|
slef |
was a particular pain during 2.2 for us |
| 13:56 |
|
slef |
see if you get a 0-byte download |
| 13:57 |
|
slef |
about to put laptop to sleep again now |
| 13:57 |
|
owen |
I get a file full of junk characters |
| 13:58 |
|
slef |
oh wow |
| 13:58 |
|
slef |
file /path/to/downloaded/file |
| 13:58 |
|
slef |
does that give a clue? |
| 13:59 |
|
slef |
anyway, it sounds like a bug... also check opac-error_log |
| 14:00 |
|
slef |
question for the assembled throng: should I suggest that OpenLibraries become a democratic foundation for open source library software? |
| 14:00 |
|
slef |
I call myself MJ but it is still a bit freaky sitting in a presentation discussing MARC a lot |
| 14:01 |
|
gmcharlt |
slef: http://www.openlibraries.eu/? |
| 14:01 |
|
slef |
Uni Strathclyde want to launch professional development course in Koha |
| 14:02 |
|
slef |
gmcharlt: aye |
| 14:02 |
|
slef |
gmcharlt: PTFS + Ken Chad Consulting event vehicle at the moment |
| 14:02 |
|
gmcharlt |
slef: do you have any expectation that such a suggestion would be taken seriously? |
| 14:02 |
|
slef |
gmcharlt: expect the worst, hope for the best |
| 14:03 |
|
slef |
gmcharlt: (in other words no, based on how happily my last email suggesting opening it up was received) |
| 14:03 |
|
gmcharlt |
slef: or tweak people's noses with the best of them? ;) |
| 14:03 |
|
slef |
gmcharlt: but pearls are formed from repetitive irritation |
| 14:04 |
|
owen |
Tell that to my shoes. |
| 14:04 |
|
slef |
and I have no idea whether I'm joking there |
| 14:04 |
|
gmcharlt |
slef: go for it, but a practical basis for a foundation is more likely an existing pan-EU library org whose membership is actual libraries |
| 14:07 |
|
slef |
after this Uni Strathclyde session, there's an Ex Libris person, then Talis, then Q+As |
| 14:08 |
|
gmcharlt |
slef: besides Koha, did Strathclyde announces courses for any other FOSS library software? |
| 14:09 |
|
slef |
gmcharlt: not as I understood it, but I'm trying to answer customer emails at the same time. Will ask later (I have contacts but not customers at Strathclyde already IIRC0 |
| 14:10 |
|
slef |
hehehe we've got a Director of Marketing now, whose second slide was legal small print clicked through faster than anyone can read... given what Mike(?) from indexdata said in his presentation this AM, bet she regrests that |
| 14:12 |
|
slef |
gar... do I suspend the laptop now or hope that I can get a power-point on the train home? |
| 14:16 |
|
ort9217 |
hrmmm... anyone get an answer to my question earlier? |
| 14:17 |
|
gmcharlt |
[09:23] <gmcharlt> ort9217: with some Apache config work, you can server other apps off of the same virtual host that serves the Koha OPAC |
| 14:17 |
|
gmcharlt |
[09:24] <gmcharlt> ort9217: and you can probably mod_rewrite your way into having a http://<hostname>/<whatever you want> for the OPAC, but there will still be a lot of links to /cgi-bin/koha/foo |
| 14:17 |
|
gmcharlt |
[09:25] <slefmobile> You could overcome that with mod_proxy_html but it really is tons simpler to use a few extra VirtualHosts |
| 14:17 |
|
gmcharlt |
[09:26] <slefmobile> (sorry I missed the start of the Q) |
| 14:18 |
|
gmcharlt |
trying again |
| 14:18 |
|
gmcharlt |
[09:23] <gmcharlt> ort9217: with some Apache config work, you can server other apps off of the same virtual host that serves the Koha OPAC |
| 14:18 |
|
gmcharlt |
[09:24] <gmcharlt> ort9217: and you can probably mod_rewrite your way into having a http://<hostname>/<whatever you want> for the OPAC, but there will still be a lot of links to /cgi-bin/koha/foo |
| 14:18 |
|
gmcharlt |
[09:25] <slefmobile> You could overcome that with mod_proxy_html but it really is tons simpler to use a few extra VirtualHosts |
| 14:18 |
|
gmcharlt |
[09:26] <slefmobile> (sorry I missed the start of the Q) |
| 14:19 |
|
ort9217 |
alright, thanks, gmcharlt |
| 14:19 |
|
ort9217 |
is this channel logged anywhere? |
| 14:19 |
|
slef |
wiki.koha.org/#irc has a link |
| 14:19 |
|
slef |
OTTOMH |
| 14:20 |
|
slef |
ok detaching for a few hours or more |
| 14:20 |
|
gmcharlt |
cya |
| 14:20 |
|
owen |
I'll be interested to hear more about the day slef |
| 14:23 |
|
kf |
owen: I like your new software-icon! we use the bridge icon set in our current opac - may I replace the old floppy disc with your new software icon? |
| 14:26 |
|
ort9217 |
gmcharlt: actually, would you mind elaborating a bit? |
| 14:26 |
|
ort9217 |
as someone who isn't really an apache whiz, how much googlking around would that take to implement? |
| 14:26 |
|
gmcharlt |
ort9217: some - the default vhost config that comes with Koha includes some examples of mod_rewrite |
| 14:27 |
|
owen |
kf, I'm not sure what you mean by replace? |
| 14:27 |
|
ort9217 |
and by 'someone who isn't really an apache whiz,' i mean 'someone who would need to look up almost every one of the technical terms relating specifically to apache in your explanation' |
| 14:27 |
|
ort9217 |
like an hour? |
| 14:27 |
|
ort9217 |
20 mins? |
| 14:29 |
|
ort9217 |
gmcharlt? |
| 14:29 |
|
gmcharlt |
probably a bit longer than an hour if you're starting from scratch with no knowledge of Apache |
| 14:29 |
|
gmcharlt |
and I'm sorry, but I don't have time at the moment to walk you through it |
| 14:29 |
|
gmcharlt |
perhaps others on channel can help |
| 14:30 |
|
ort9217 |
i can (and have) follow simple instructions, so i guess im familiar with the locations and syntax of certain a2 config & log files, but thats about it |
| 14:31 |
|
ort9217 |
i just dont have any /understanding/ per se of what goes on |
| 14:32 |
|
kf |
owen: display software-icon instead of floppy disc - but not in Koha, but our current opac |
| 14:32 |
|
ort9217 |
(when it has to do with apache, i'm plenty knowledgable about other technical topics) |
| 14:33 |
|
owen |
kf: the new icons were created by a Koha-using library based on the original set, found here: http://apps.carleton.edu/campu[…]ary/bridge_icons/ |
| 14:33 |
|
owen |
I committed them on their behalf. |
| 14:33 |
|
ort9217 |
gmcharlt, do you know of any good resources that i can start with, to learn the basic paradigm of how things work in apache? |
| 14:33 |
|
kf |
owen: so they are still free to use |
| 14:34 |
|
owen |
yes, of course! |
| 14:34 |
|
kf |
owen: I just wanted to make sure, because they are not listed on the project page yet. |
| 14:35 |
|
owen |
gmcharlt: Note on the link above for the Bridge icons that they require attribution, and we don't have any mechanism for that |
| 14:35 |
|
kf |
owen: and we have a link to the project page in the opac - ouf course |
| 14:35 |
|
gmcharlt |
owen: is attribution via an about page sufficient? |
| 14:35 |
|
gmcharlt |
or does it require a link on every page that displays the icons |
| 14:36 |
|
owen |
I'm not sure,but it's the Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 2.5 License |
| 14:36 |
|
owen |
Their page says simply "you must provide attribution on your site" |
| 14:37 |
|
owen |
I guess what we need then is an About page for the OPAC |
| 14:37 |
|
wizzyrea |
ort: http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.0/ for starters |
| 14:37 |
|
gmcharlt |
sounds like it |
| 14:39 |
|
ort9217 |
wizzyrea: i've tried poking around a little on the official website, but you end up having to piece stuff together, much like technical information on wikipedia |
| 14:40 |
|
ort9217 |
its like a reference book, but what i'm looking for is more of a beginner's tutorial |
| 14:40 |
|
ort9217 |
any others? |
| 14:41 |
|
slef |
there's a guide in the apache docs as well as the ref man |
| 14:43 |
|
ort9217 |
btw, this is sooo awesome |
| 14:43 |
|
ort9217 |
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I[…]er_Avian_Carriers |
| 14:43 |
|
ort9217 |
and thanks, i'm about to check it out |
| 14:47 |
|
gmcharlt |
owen: agreed re about page for OPAC |
| 14:48 |
|
schuster |
Clarification needed on the "sounds" patch that is coming... |
| 14:49 |
|
schuster |
Will that be part of 3.2 with the Java circ pieces or earlier? |
| 14:49 |
|
schuster |
Sounds at checkin that is. |
| 14:49 |
|
gmcharlt |
schuster: most likely |
| 14:52 |
|
ort9217 |
alright, thanks for the help, all... i'm out |
| 14:59 |
|
slef |
who from koha is working on jangle? |
| 15:00 |
|
gmcharlt |
slef: I'm not sure if anybody is actively working on it |
| 15:00 |
|
gmcharlt |
biblibre, maybe, if they're playing with it in conjunction with their SOPAC work |
| 15:00 |
|
gmcharlt |
it's something that's on my (long) backburner list to look into eventually |
| 15:03 |
|
slef |
ok |
| 15:55 |
|
pianohacker |
morning |
| 16:00 |
|
gmcharlt |
hi pianohacker |
| 16:00 |
|
pianohacker |
hello |
| 16:00 |
|
pianohacker |
Do you have a little bit of time to talk about an architecture problem? |
| 16:01 |
|
gmcharlt |
sure |
| 16:05 |
|
pianohacker |
Okay |
| 16:05 |
|
pianohacker |
Working on a project to set hold fees by itype |
| 16:06 |
|
pianohacker |
adding a 'reservefee' column to issuingrules was a possibility, but it would mean that three different kinds of rules would be in the same table |
| 16:07 |
|
pianohacker |
What would you think of splitting issuingrules into two tables, issuingrules and finerules, and adding a new table, holdrules? This would involve that UNIQUE hack I discussed a while back, but could theoretically work |
| 16:09 |
|
gmcharlt |
pianohacker: please look at this http://wiki.koha.org/doku.php?[…]c32_circ_policies |
| 16:09 |
|
gmcharlt |
regarding adding reservefee to issuingrules as a starting point |
| 16:09 |
|
gmcharlt |
I don't actually have a problem with that |
| 16:10 |
|
gmcharlt |
as thus far the interpretation of checkout rules & fine rules by branch/itype/patron category hasn't been a problem |
| 16:10 |
|
pianohacker |
This idea does sound good |
| 16:10 |
|
gmcharlt |
since the table doesn't have bunches of longtext columns |
| 16:10 |
|
gmcharlt |
adding columns isn't a big cost |
| 16:11 |
|
gmcharlt |
better *naming* of the columns may be called for, of course |
| 16:11 |
|
pianohacker |
One would hope :) |
| 16:13 |
|
gmcharlt |
afk, bbiab |
| 19:08 |
|
slef |
on the train home after http://softwarecoop.posterous.com/paddington - guess paul_p will be airborne now |
| 19:10 |
|
slef |
that's a crazy station building but so few people stop to see it |
| 19:17 |
|
owen |
How was the rest of the day slef? |
| 19:20 |
|
slef |
a little better and a good chat with paul_p but the event didn't finish brilliantly for me |
| 19:20 |
|
slef |
they didn't take Q+As about openlibraries - preferred to finish earlier |
| 19:21 |
|
slef |
I'm about to go into Box Tunnel, so I'm signing off again in a tick |
| 19:21 |
|
slef |
back in 2 or 3 hours |
| 19:22 |
|
slef |
(rther - I'll fall off the network in a tick) |
| 19:34 |
|
hdl_laptop1 |
gmcharlt: I juste sent to you some patches which includes the refactoring engaged on C4/Members.pm and C4/Suggestion.pm |
| 19:37 |
|
gmcharlt |
hdl_laptop1: got them |
| 19:58 |
|
pianohacker |
Does "branch" being verboten apply to cronjob options and usage messages? |
| 19:59 |
|
gmcharlt |
batch job messages and options are still part of the UI, so we should be consistent with the 'library' usage where possible |
| 19:59 |
|
chris |
morning |
| 20:00 |
|
gmcharlt |
hi chris |
| 20:00 |
|
chris |
course in the en_NZ translation it says libraries or branches in a lot of places now :) |
| 20:01 |
|
chris |
but yeah id go with the default saying just library |
| 20:02 |
|
brendan |
heya #koha |
| 20:02 |
|
pianohacker |
Hi |
| 20:02 |
|
chris |
hey there brendan |
| 20:03 |
|
brendan |
afternoon - pianohacker, chris, gmcharlt |
| 20:03 |
|
gmcharlt |
hi brendan |
| 20:04 |
|
chris |
owen: hows being back at work going? |
| 20:04 |
|
slef |
moo |
| 20:04 |
|
owen |
I can't tell which is busier, home or work |
| 20:05 |
|
chris |
heh, probably home :) |
| 20:05 |
|
slef |
marc |
| 20:05 |
|
pianohacker |
slef: "245 $a Milk /" ? |
| 20:06 |
|
rhcl |
slef: whats the G.W.R. Paddington building? |
| 20:07 |
|
slef |
marc21 authorities |
| 20:07 |
|
slef |
bloody tunnels |
| 20:08 |
|
slef |
rhcl: train station |
| 20:08 |
|
rhcl |
ah, ic |
| 20:08 |
|
slef |
in london for trains to west country |
| 20:09 |
|
wizzyrea |
gmcharlt: where do you set the global default for the messaging settings? |
| 20:09 |
|
wizzyrea |
(I think I"m looking right past it) |
| 20:09 |
|
slef |
and south wales and cotswolds and thames valley |
| 20:10 |
|
gmcharlt |
wizzyrea: no such thing - defaults are per patron category |
| 20:10 |
|
wizzyrea |
Ah so there is no global default gotya |
| 20:11 |
|
slef |
back in Somerset now. ergo the disconnects |
| 20:11 |
|
wizzyrea |
er, global default is 'no messaging" |
| 20:11 |
|
gmcharlt |
wizzyrea: yeah, hardcoded that way for new and existing patron categories |
| 20:11 |
|
wizzyrea |
cool, just wanted to make sure |
| 20:11 |
|
wizzyrea |
thx muchas |
| 20:16 |
|
wizzyrea |
re: patron import, the CSV file should have the columns for messaging added maybe? |
| 20:17 |
|
wizzyrea |
good idea? bad idea? |
| 20:17 |
|
gmcharlt |
in principle, OK |
| 20:17 |
|
gmcharlt |
not sure how often it would actually be needed |
| 20:17 |
|
owen |
How would OpenID authentication for the OPAC work? Would you have to first tie an existing OpenID identity to your Koha patron record? |
| 20:18 |
|
gmcharlt |
owen: pretty much |
| 20:18 |
|
wizzyrea |
i'll add that to the enhancement bug report just so it's noted for the future. It's not a big deal |
| 20:18 |
|
gmcharlt |
or rather, the patron can do that |
| 20:18 |
|
wizzyrea |
just like things to be complete and consistent :P |
| 20:18 |
|
gmcharlt |
wizzyrea: actually, a separate bug would be better |
| 20:18 |
|
wizzyrea |
okies |
| 20:18 |
|
wizzyrea |
will do that |
| 20:19 |
|
gmcharlt |
otherwise I can't experience the joy of ticking the original one closed ;) |
| 20:19 |
|
gmcharlt |
owen: basically, it would be a matter of doing *something* to authenticate the patron the first time to Koha |
| 20:20 |
|
gmcharlt |
but once set up, it does allow the patron to forget whatever PIN or password originally assigned by the library |
| 20:22 |
|
wizzyrea |
hehe! well I wouldn't want to deny you that glee, gmcharlt |
| 20:26 |
|
pianohacker |
If implemented well, that might actually be very useful |
| 20:27 |
|
pianohacker |
You could advertise it as "use your yahoo password to log in to koha" or some such; I think even my slightly... rural community might get into it |
| 20:27 |
|
chris |
*nod* |
| 20:29 |
|
chris |
lenora is gonna file an enhancement at bugs.koha.org |
| 20:29 |
|
gmcharlt |
cool |
| 20:30 |
|
gmcharlt |
although I wonder to what extent OpenIDs are actually used outside of early adopters and school and university systems |
| 20:31 |
|
gmcharlt |
in any event, marketing it as "fewer passwords to remember" may be slightly better than "use your foo password to log into the catalog" |
| 20:31 |
|
chris |
yeah but if you can get said early adopters and school and uni students using your public library |
| 20:31 |
|
chris |
win win win |
| 20:32 |
|
pianohacker |
And there is work being done on the UI side of it: http://www.webmonkey.com/blog/[…]_OpenID_Confusion |
| 20:32 |
|
gmcharlt |
as the latter can turn into (a) people reading that statement too literally or (b) wondering if the library is going to be able to check their Yahoo mail or the like |
| 20:33 |
|
chris |
yep, you can have an how do this work link |
| 20:33 |
|
chris |
where you explain its openid for those who are curious |
| 20:33 |
|
chris |
but market it as less passwords to remember |
| 20:33 |
|
chris |
how do this work ... good england there |
| 20:34 |
|
gmcharlt |
don't blame an entire country for your typing, chris ;) |
| 20:36 |
|
chris |
they shouldnt have colonised nz if they didnt want to get the blame :) |
| 20:55 |
|
chris |
morning jo |
| 20:55 |
|
Jo |
good morning Chris |
| 21:02 |
|
gmcharlt |
chris: do you have any examples or screenshots of what catalogue/dictionary.pl and opac/opac-dictionary.pl where supposed to do? |
| 21:02 |
|
chris |
nope |
| 21:02 |
|
chris |
i have no idea what they are |
| 21:03 |
|
gmcharlt |
well, at the moment nonfunctional |
| 21:03 |
|
gmcharlt |
and have been that way since 2.2.x |
| 21:03 |
|
chris |
git blame tells me paul might know |
| 21:03 |
|
chris |
not something i have ever looked at |
| 21:06 |
|
Jo |
The proposed new enhancement proposed for automatic credit refund of a lost book which turns up ... we have this working now in 2.9. |
| 21:06 |
|
chris |
2.2.9 :) |
| 21:06 |
|
Jo |
it must have been dropped out in 3.0 but shouldn't be that hard to resurrect should it Chris? |
| 21:06 |
|
Jo |
oops ... 2.2.9 |
| 21:06 |
|
chris |
nothing is that hard :) |
| 21:06 |
|
chris |
its just a matter of resource |
| 21:07 |
|
Jo |
cool. and we will have to find that resource then because we do want it. |
| 21:07 |
|
chris |
yay! |
| 21:07 |
|
Jo |
yay! |
| 21:07 |
|
Jo |
the bug is asking for co-funders. |
| 21:07 |
|
Jo |
someone might even go in with us! |
| 21:14 |
|
schuster |
Enhancement process at work! There may be someone out there that has already funded it too - that's part of the problem we don't know who is doing what at the moment. |
| 21:16 |
|
Jo |
Schuster: its an old old standard feature from Koha 2.x |
| 21:17 |
|
Jo |
we;ve had it for at least 8 years I would think. |
| 21:21 |
|
schuster |
Well it's gone now! #3.0.x |
| 21:22 |
|
schuster |
So is the spelling helper in pac gone. |
| 21:22 |
|
chris |
the fines have changed in 3.0 (the way they are stored) and are changing again for the better for 3.2 so we would need to do a bit of work to make it work properly |
| 21:22 |
|
chris |
but certainly doable |
| 21:22 |
|
schuster |
I thought I would start with that enhancement and then work my way down the list. |
| 21:23 |
|
schuster |
That is also part of the problem with 3.2 who is sponsoring what - some of this may be covered already but only a developer would know. |
| 21:23 |
|
chris |
sounds good, if they are in bugzilla then they wont get missed |
| 21:23 |
|
schuster |
(the developer working on it that is...) |
| 21:23 |
|
chris |
*nod* |
| 21:23 |
|
schuster |
Yep and then we wouldn't have 3 people working on similar problems... waisting those valuable programming minutes! |
| 21:29 |
|
wizzyrea |
Schuster ++ |
| 21:29 |
|
wizzyrea |
verra naiiice |
| 21:30 |
|
schuster |
Off to ponder other enhancements and how we can get more done with less time! |
| 21:32 |
|
pianohacker |
bye |
| 03:19 |
|
Amit |
hi brendan, chris, mason |
| 03:19 |
|
Amit |
good morning |
| 03:19 |
|
brendan |
heya amit |
| 03:30 |
|
Jo |
hiya Amit |
| 03:31 |
|
Amit |
hi Jo |
| 04:37 |
|
chris |
any liblimers about? |
| 05:46 |
|
elwell |
... or any biblibrians? |
| 05:46 |
|
elwell |
wondered if they were attending http://2009.linuxdays.ch/ |
| 05:47 |
|
elwell |
seems to have a bit of a public admin / education slant. Course, I haven't looked at the cost of attending yet |
| 06:20 |
|
chris |
nicomo: did you see what elwell posted? |
| 06:20 |
|
chris |
http://liblime.com/ <--- work for anyone? |
| 06:22 |
|
elwell |
chris: not for me earlier |
| 06:22 |
|
elwell |
502 (ditto with www.) |
| 06:25 |
|
chris |
ywah |
| 06:26 |
|
chris |
been done for a while now |
| 06:27 |
|
chris |
done=down |
| 06:30 |
|
nicomo |
hi all, hi chris and elwell |
| 06:30 |
|
nicomo |
chris: what as it you wanted me to see? |
| 06:31 |
|
chris |
ah the conference in switzerland |
| 06:32 |
|
chris |
http://2009.linuxdays.ch/ |
| 06:36 |
|
nicomo |
we won't be there |
| 06:36 |
|
nicomo |
but i didn't know this conf existed |
| 06:36 |
|
nicomo |
and it's about 2 hrs train for me from Lyon |
| 06:36 |
|
nicomo |
next year maybe |
| 06:37 |
|
elwell |
yeah - somewhat late notice I guess for this ye |
| 06:38 |
|
nicomo |
yep, I have stuff scheduled for these dates already |
| 06:38 |
|
nicomo |
but then i probably should have spotted this conf earlier myself |
| 06:38 |
|
nicomo |
chris: "I personally think that internal storage is irrelevant, ie we dont need to |
| 06:38 |
|
nicomo |
store the records in MARC format. As long as we can import from and export |
| 06:38 |
|
nicomo |
to MARC record format." |
| 06:39 |
|
nicomo |
++ to that (2001) |
| 06:39 |
|
nicomo |
problem is : whan the RFP requires that the system be internally in Marc, |
| 06:39 |
|
nicomo |
what is one supposed to do? |
| 06:39 |
|
nicomo |
Convince the library that their request is really irrelevant? :-) |
| 06:40 |
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chris |
yeah, tell them to get off the drugs :-) |
| 06:40 |
|
chris |
i know what you mean though, sometimes you have to do things you know are stupid, to meet what a client thinks they need |
| 06:41 |
|
chris |
doesnt mean you have to like it though :-) |
| 06:52 |
|
nicomo |
right : and i don't |
| 06:52 |
|
nicomo |
but then I see national libraries and such thinking about RDA and I put my head in the sand |
| 06:54 |
|
chris |
yeah |
| 07:41 |
|
chris |
right that's kahu asleep |
| 07:44 |
|
kf |
morning chris |
| 07:49 |
|
hdl_laptop |
hi chris |
| 07:50 |
|
chris |
hi kf and hdl_laptop |
| 08:14 |
|
kf |
hi there, I m doing some research atm how to handle records catalogued in German and Hebrew using field 880 |
| 08:15 |
|
kf |
I need to get those 880 fields displayed and searchable, but not sure if its necessary to move them out of 880 to 9xx fields or if I can import them just as they are |
| 08:18 |
|
soul9 |
so you want zebra to index 880? |
| 08:19 |
|
soul9 |
doesn't look like 880 is used in either unimarc or marc21, so you'll need to customize /etc/zebradb/marc_defs/marc21/biblios/record.abs or /etc/zebradb/marc_defs/unimarc/biblios/record.abs |
| 08:20 |
|
kf |
yes, but I think its more difficult than that |
| 08:23 |
|
soul9 |
after that i guess you have to add it to a framework |
| 08:26 |
|
kf |
my problem is, that I want to integrate it |
| 08:26 |
|
kf |
so 880 //245... can be searched in title index |
| 08:27 |
|
kf |
and 880 footnotes in footnotes... etc. |
| 08:28 |
|
kf |
and I must change xslt-files for opac-display |
| 08:28 |
|
kf |
wondering if this is something other libraries might be interested too |
| 08:38 |
|
Hui_Nan_ |
hi all |
| 08:38 |
|
Hui_Nan_ |
after make install I run git status |
| 08:38 |
|
Hui_Nan_ |
it says |
| 08:38 |
|
Hui_Nan_ |
# On branch 3.0.x |
| 08:38 |
|
Hui_Nan_ |
# Untracked files: |
| 08:38 |
|
Hui_Nan_ |
# (use "git add <file>..." to include in what will be committed) |
| 08:38 |
|
Hui_Nan_ |
# |
| 08:38 |
|
Hui_Nan_ |
# Makefile |
| 08:38 |
|
Hui_Nan_ |
# blib/ |
| 08:38 |
|
Hui_Nan_ |
# pm_to_blib |
| 08:38 |
|
Hui_Nan_ |
# t/test-config.txt |
| 08:39 |
|
Hui_Nan_ |
should not all these files be in .git/.gitignore? |
| 08:41 |
|
Hui_Nan_ |
.git/info/.gitignore |
| 08:41 |
|
Hui_Nan_ |
of course |
| 08:43 |
|
slef |
probably should be |
| 08:44 |
|
slef |
gmcharlt: whoever else: liblime.com seems down 502 Bad Gateway |
| 08:44 |
|
slef |
gmcharlt: owen: facebook starting to allow OpenID logins AIUI |
| 08:45 |
|
chris |
slef: its been down for a while, ... and did you see the enhancement request to allow ppl to authenticate to the opac via OpenID ? |
| 08:50 |
|
hdl_laptop |
kf: everything you neeed, you can propose the community. |
| 08:50 |
|
hdl_laptop |
koha-patches list is open |
| 08:52 |
|
kf |
hdl: propose? |
| 08:53 |
|
chris |
kf: i think it would be something other libraries would be interested in, and i think hdl is suggesting you write a mail to koha-devel, or koha-patches .. or make a page on the wiki with the idea and see if others are interested |
| 08:58 |
|
kf |
ok |
| 09:09 |
|
hdl_laptop |
kf |
| 09:09 |
|
hdl_laptop |
in fact : you can open a bug on bugzilla |
| 09:09 |
|
hdl_laptop |
and propose that as enhancement. |
| 09:10 |
|
hdl_laptop |
And if you happen to make the change in your code, you can then make a patch out of it and either send it on koha-patches |
| 09:10 |
|
kf |
but first I have to do a little bit more research |
| 09:10 |
|
hdl_laptop |
or attach it to the bug |
| 09:13 |
|
kf |
got example data today, will try to import it later :) |
| 11:51 |
|
Hui_Nan_ |
could anyone say how to format-patch of the last 3 commits? |
| 11:53 |
|
soul9 |
git format-patch firstrev..lastrev |
| 11:53 |
|
Hui_Nan_ |
ok |
| 11:54 |
|
gmcharlt |
git format-patch HEAD^^^ # lot's of options :) |
| 11:54 |
|
Hui_Nan_ |
I didn't noticed an '..' operator $-) |
| 11:54 |
|
Hui_Nan_ |
thank you! |
| 11:59 |
|
Hui_Nan_ |
huh, the first three patches! |
| 11:59 |
|
Hui_Nan_ |
$-) |
