| Time |
S |
Nick |
Message |
| 18:10 |
|
CGI078 |
hello |
| 19:41 |
|
pianohacker |
gmcharlt: around? not crucially important, know it's a sunday |
| 20:14 |
|
chris |
morning |
| 20:14 |
|
pianohacker |
Good morning, chris |
| 20:15 |
|
chris |
hows the weekend goin? |
| 20:15 |
|
pianohacker |
Pretty good |
| 20:15 |
|
pianohacker |
How was yours? |
| 20:16 |
|
chris |
nice and quiet, which is good |
| 20:16 |
|
pianohacker |
Heh |
| 20:16 |
|
pianohacker |
How's kahu doing? |
| 20:16 |
|
chris |
good, he was eating breakfast when i left |
| 20:18 |
|
pianohacker |
How's laurel? I know that things are starting to get a bit more tense with the baby |
| 20:19 |
|
chris |
good, tired but good, we have the house all ready and she has finished work, so more organised than last time :) |
| 20:20 |
|
pianohacker |
Hehe, organized |
| 20:20 |
|
pianohacker |
I imagine it will be easier this time |
| 20:20 |
|
chris |
yeah we have some idea whats going on this time :) |
| 20:48 |
|
richard |
hi |
| 21:15 |
|
chris |
hi richard |
| 21:15 |
|
richard |
hi chris |
| 23:59 |
|
chris |
man i wish we could just see what is going on with the foundation, otherwise we are just gonna be talking about it on the lists forevere |
| 00:02 |
|
Jo |
Morning all |
| 00:02 |
|
chris |
hey jo |
| 00:02 |
|
Jo |
Yep : I agree. Wonder whose driving it at Liblime and whether they could update the community. |
| 00:03 |
|
Jo |
Might need the Kaitiaki to take this bull by the horns and wrestle into position! |
| 00:14 |
|
chris |
just a page on the wiki |
| 00:14 |
|
chris |
or even an email to the list saying whats happened, what they plan to do etc |
| 00:14 |
|
chris |
problem solved |
| 02:22 |
|
chris |
jo: your blog post |
| 02:23 |
|
chris |
especially the managing people |
| 02:23 |
|
chris |
could well be applied to the current situation |
| 02:23 |
|
chris |
specifically |
| 02:23 |
|
chris |
Talk. People will hop over ripples if they know they are coming and are prepared, its the unexpectness that knocks frogs of lily pads not the ripples themselves. |
| 02:25 |
|
Jo |
yep - I agree. I also like the concept of people 'surfing' - its the skill that you exhibit in negotiating problems and mistakes |
| 02:26 |
|
chris |
*nod* |
| 02:47 |
|
Jo |
Hi rach |
| 03:38 |
|
Amit |
hi chris, brendan, mason good morning |
| 03:39 |
|
ebegin |
exit |
| 03:40 |
|
ebegin |
oups... wrong window :) |
| 03:51 |
|
mason |
and a 'good morning' to you, amit |
| 03:51 |
|
Amit |
mason: how is your weekend |
| 03:52 |
|
mason |
great thanx |
| 03:52 |
|
mason |
i really liked your pazpar2 demo too |
| 03:52 |
|
Amit |
thanx |
| 03:53 |
|
mason |
did it take a long time to set up? |
| 03:53 |
|
Amit |
it take around one week |
| 03:53 |
|
mason |
and did you set it up, or someone else at OSS? |
| 03:54 |
|
Amit |
it set up on opensuse 11.0 |
| 03:54 |
|
mason |
ah, 1 week - good work :) |
| 03:54 |
|
mason |
you set it up on opensuse? |
| 03:54 |
|
Amit |
but development head Mr. Satya set up this pazpar2 demo |
| 03:55 |
|
Amit |
sory |
| 03:55 |
|
mason |
ah, ok.. |
| 03:55 |
|
Amit |
our development head Mr. Satya set up this pazpar2 demo |
| 03:55 |
|
mason |
yep :) |
| 03:55 |
|
mason |
i think OSS is the first pazpar2 demo i have seen ever! |
| 03:56 |
|
Amit |
hmmm |
| 03:56 |
|
Amit |
but i think liblime already set pazpar2 demo |
| 03:56 |
|
Amit |
not sure |
| 03:57 |
|
ebegin |
Amit, do you have the URL? |
| 03:57 |
|
ebegin |
I'd like to see it too : |
| 03:57 |
|
mason |
hiya eric ;) |
| 03:57 |
|
Amit |
yes |
| 03:57 |
|
Amit |
wait i will give u |
| 03:57 |
|
ebegin |
Hi guys |
| 03:57 |
|
Amit |
hi ebegin |
| 03:58 |
|
Amit |
ebegin: http://pazpardemo.osslabs.biz/pazpar2/jsdemo/ |
| 04:00 |
|
Jo |
hi guys.. |
| 04:00 |
|
Jo |
hey can someone tell me what pazpar2 is |
| 04:00 |
|
Amit |
hi Jo |
| 04:01 |
|
Jo |
i do like the demo Amit |
| 04:01 |
|
Amit |
hmm |
| 04:01 |
|
chris |
in a nutshell jo, its federated searching |
| 04:01 |
|
ebegin |
Hey Jo! Pazpar2 is a tools allowing to do federated searches |
| 04:01 |
|
Jo |
it s so cool... |
| 04:01 |
|
Jo |
just playing with it now |
| 04:01 |
|
chris |
so what hlt want |
| 04:01 |
|
Amit |
hi chris |
| 04:01 |
|
chris |
is pazpar2 searching koha and kete |
| 04:01 |
|
Jo |
yes! |
| 04:01 |
|
Jo |
yes we do... |
| 04:01 |
|
chris |
and it can merge the results |
| 04:02 |
|
Jo |
and the cemetery records at council too |
| 04:02 |
|
chris |
*nod* |
| 04:02 |
|
ebegin |
I did set it up for a client few months ago. But this client is not running Koha though... well, not yet ;) |
| 04:02 |
|
Jo |
(reminds me i must email richard ..) |
| 04:03 |
|
Amit |
hi richards |
| 04:03 |
|
Jo |
its fast |
| 04:04 |
|
Jo |
must carry on on or i'll get yelled at by chris for dragging the chain |
| 04:04 |
|
chris |
:-) |
| 04:05 |
|
ebegin |
Anybody though abour having pazpar2 integrated in Koha interface? |
| 04:05 |
|
ebegin |
s/abour/about/ |
| 04:06 |
|
chris |
it is already :) |
| 04:06 |
|
chris |
well it uses it to do its frbr stuff |
| 04:07 |
|
ebegin |
ok.. I'll have to try it though. Do we have to do something else than saying YES when the installer ask for pazpar2? |
| 04:08 |
|
chris |
you have to switch the frbr stuff on in system preferences |
| 04:08 |
|
Jo |
i did that |
| 04:08 |
|
chris |
and choose your sources |
| 04:08 |
|
Jo |
(oops - sorry) |
| 04:08 |
|
chris |
then it will use pazpar2 to search those sources (using isbn) and try to group together related records |
| 04:09 |
|
ebegin |
Anybody would be interested to use a local repository for book covers instead of having to use Google, Amazon and al.? |
| 04:10 |
|
chris |
im sure they would |
| 04:10 |
|
chris |
its all about the legalities |
| 04:10 |
|
chris |
publishers are mental |
| 04:11 |
|
ebegin |
of course :) |
| 04:11 |
|
ebegin |
here a sample: http://af.inlibro.net/cgi-bin/[…]search.pl?q=canta |
| 04:11 |
|
chris |
"stop making it easier for people to find the books we publish" |
| 04:12 |
|
chris |
cool, just keyed off the biblionumber eh? |
| 04:12 |
|
ebegin |
Yep |
| 04:13 |
|
chris |
i think that would be useful for a lot of reasons |
| 04:13 |
|
chris |
1/ there are still a signficant amount of things not in amazon especially nz published content |
| 04:14 |
|
chris |
2/ serving images locally on the opacs in the library rather than fetching from the US would make the opac a ton faster |
| 04:15 |
|
Jo |
goodbye all. |
| 04:15 |
|
ebegin |
Right now, the detail image link is a bigger image, however, it could point to another type of file. For example, I have a client that take picture of a kit for some school classes (eg chemistry, physics kits, ...). The link would be the kit's description in an URL file |
| 04:16 |
|
ebegin |
Can you beleive that clients have to pay to a third party if they want to have a publisher images... |
| 04:17 |
|
chris |
i can totally believe that |
| 04:17 |
|
ebegin |
My plan is to meet with the major publisher here and offer them a place to store their covers. |
| 04:17 |
|
ebegin |
Actually, they should pay for that. |
| 04:18 |
|
chris |
:) |
| 04:18 |
|
chris |
logic and common sense doesnt often seem to have a place in the business world :) |
| 04:18 |
|
ebegin |
If they pay, I'll make the cover available to anybody... free of charge! |
| 04:21 |
|
ebegin |
Oh, and the image could link at a place like amazon and if someone click on it and buy the book, I could get some money ;-D |
| 04:21 |
|
chris |
heh |
| 04:22 |
|
ebegin |
Do the school libraries in NZ can make money out of their Amazon links? |
| 04:23 |
|
chris |
in theory they would if people clicked on the links and then bought the book |
| 04:23 |
|
chris |
im not sure if it is happening in practice |
| 04:23 |
|
ebegin |
In Canada, they can't, it's prohibited. Which make the Amazon Content useless for them |
| 04:24 |
|
chris |
ohh right |
| 04:24 |
|
ebegin |
unless I set up everything under inLibro account ;) |
| 04:26 |
|
ebegin |
Do we still use Image::Magick somewhere in Koha? |
| 04:26 |
|
chris |
I think for patron images yes |
| 04:26 |
|
chris |
but im not sure |
| 04:26 |
|
ebegin |
cd .. |
| 04:30 |
|
ebegin |
nope, not anymore I guess... grep didn't find any Image::Magick |
| 04:31 |
|
ebegin |
goodnight everyone! Sunday, 30 past midnight... time to go to bed ;) |
| 04:32 |
|
chris |
sleep well |
| 05:53 |
|
chris |
hi nicomo |
| 05:54 |
|
nicomo |
hi chris |
| 05:54 |
|
nicomo |
had a nice week-end? |
| 05:55 |
|
chris |
yep nice and quiet |
| 05:55 |
|
chris |
you ? |
| 06:04 |
|
nicomo |
nice weather : spring is truly there now |
| 06:05 |
|
nicomo |
bycicle ride with my 5 year old daughter, etc. |
| 06:05 |
|
nicomo |
nice and quiet |
| 06:05 |
|
chris |
sounds like fun |
| 07:26 |
|
hdl_laptop |
hi kf |
| 07:26 |
|
hdl_laptop |
chris around ? |
| 07:27 |
|
kf |
hdl, good morning :) |
| 07:28 |
|
chris |
am now hdl_laptop |
| 07:28 |
|
chris |
whats up? |
| 07:28 |
|
hdl_laptop |
was wondering if translations had been updated on Pootle. |
| 07:29 |
|
hdl_laptop |
I can check on my own. |
| 07:29 |
|
chris |
ahh i push them up whenever they get updated |
| 07:29 |
|
chris |
http://git.koha.org/cgi-bin/gi[…]=shortlog;h=3.0.x |
| 07:30 |
|
chris |
do you think we are finished with any string changes? |
| 07:30 |
|
chris |
if so i will regen and remerge all the .po files |
| 07:30 |
|
hdl_laptop |
yes. I think so |
| 07:30 |
|
chris |
ok ill regen them all |
| 07:31 |
|
hdl_laptop |
it should have only very little string change |
| 07:32 |
|
hdl_laptop |
mmm... maybe should we release with completed translation. And leave it up to ppl to dl from Koha Pootle and install incomplet translations. |
| 07:34 |
|
hdl_laptop |
nicomo sent me the complete translation last Thursdat |
| 07:34 |
|
hdl_laptop |
nicomo sent me the complete translation last Thursday for french |
| 07:36 |
|
chris |
lets give people a bit more time to translate |
| 07:36 |
|
chris |
because its quite hard for people to download and install |
| 07:37 |
|
chris |
ill regen the .po files and send the translate list an email and say they have x many days to translate |
| 07:37 |
|
kf |
perhaps not only complete but more than x %? |
| 07:37 |
|
chris |
how many days do we want to give them? |
| 07:37 |
|
chris |
yeah more than 50% is a good rule |
| 07:38 |
|
hdl_laptop |
some translations are 0% :( |
| 07:38 |
|
hdl_laptop |
I would say rather more than 66% |
| 07:39 |
|
hdl_laptop |
50% looks very weak imho. |
| 07:40 |
|
kf |
compromise on 60 %? ;) |
| 07:40 |
|
chris |
i think that 50% still might make it useful |
| 07:40 |
|
chris |
and might make people want to finish it :) |
| 07:42 |
|
chris |
but 66% im fine with too |
| 07:42 |
|
chris |
i think whatever the rule is, we need to send an email and say you have x days to translate your language |
| 07:42 |
|
chris |
if its not over 66% it wont be in the 3.0.2 release |
| 07:44 |
|
hdl_laptop |
let's stick to 66% and let's give 10 days for translations. |
| 07:47 |
|
chris |
sounds good |
| 07:48 |
|
chris |
10 days from today? which would be the 28th of may? |
| 08:05 |
|
chris |
ok story read, and goodnight song sung, and kahu asleep |
| 08:05 |
|
chris |
time to merge po files |
| 08:15 |
|
hdl_laptop |
chris: does 28th May sounds ok ? |
| 08:16 |
|
chris |
yep sounds good to me |
| 08:16 |
|
chris |
strings for opac actually went down :) |
| 08:16 |
|
chris |
from 3853 to 3839 |
| 08:20 |
|
chris |
kf: http://translate.koha.org/de/opac3_0/ |
| 08:20 |
|
chris |
nothing for you to do for the opac |
| 08:22 |
|
kf |
ooh |
| 08:22 |
|
kf |
I like translating, its more fun than other things on my todo list |
| 08:23 |
|
chris |
havent done the intranet yet ... might be some for you there |
| 08:23 |
|
kf |
ok :) |
| 09:00 |
|
chris |
http://translate.koha.org/de/intranet3_0/ there ya go |
| 09:24 |
|
kf |
thx chris |
| 09:24 |
|
chris |
hi paul_p |
| 09:24 |
|
paul_p |
hi chris. |
| 09:24 |
|
paul_p |
in London today for "Breaking the barrier conference" |
| 09:24 |
|
paul_p |
http://www.openlibraries.eu/ |
| 09:25 |
|
kf |
[Errno 13] Permission denied: '/var/lib/pootle/intranet3_0/de/de-DE-i-staff-t-prog-v-3000000.po' |
| 09:26 |
|
kf |
chris: getting an error message, when submitting directly |
| 09:26 |
|
kf |
suggest seems to work |
| 09:29 |
|
chris |
cool paul_p |
| 09:29 |
|
chris |
hmm lemme check that out |
| 09:29 |
|
chris |
kf: can you try now please? |
| 09:30 |
|
kf |
its ok now |
| 09:31 |
|
kf |
did you do something or was it my logout/login? |
| 09:33 |
|
chris |
no it was something i did |
| 09:34 |
|
kf |
thx chris |
| 09:36 |
|
Amit |
hi kf |
| 09:39 |
|
kf |
hi amit |
| 09:47 |
|
kf |
chris: cant reach translate.koha.org |
| 09:48 |
|
kf |
too many translators at work? |
| 09:50 |
|
chris |
yeah after i sent that email everyone logged in, try now |
| 09:51 |
|
kf |
its great now and fast |
| 09:52 |
|
kf |
and I'm done :) |
| 09:54 |
|
chris |
:) |
| 09:54 |
|
paul_p |
fire alarm gone. We had to leave the conference room. Fortunatly, false alarm |
| 09:59 |
|
Hui_Nan_ |
hi all |
| 10:00 |
|
hdl_laptop |
hi |
| 10:00 |
|
Hui_Nan_ |
I git-cloned koha's repo, checked out origin/master branch as local myinstall |
| 10:00 |
|
Hui_Nan_ |
I can't see any localized templates there |
| 10:01 |
|
hdl_laptop |
it is perfectly expected. |
| 10:01 |
|
hdl_laptop |
you have to install them |
| 10:01 |
|
Hui_Nan_ |
url plz |
| 10:01 |
|
chris |
the versions in 3.0.x are much more up to date |
| 10:01 |
|
chris |
(the .po files that is) |
| 10:01 |
|
hdl_laptop |
via misc/translator/ |
| 10:02 |
|
Hui_Nan_ |
ups, I'm in a development branch! |
| 10:02 |
|
Hui_Nan_ |
%-) |
| 10:02 |
|
hdl_laptop |
and use ./install.pl |
| 10:02 |
|
Hui_Nan_ |
ok |
| 10:03 |
|
hdl_laptop |
it will install every language. |
| 10:05 |
|
chris |
but be warned, the .po files in master are out of date, we havent started translating there, and wont until we get closer to 3.2.0 release .. but you can use the files from the 3.0.x branch |
| 10:05 |
|
chris |
they are more up to date |
| 10:17 |
|
Hui_Nan_ |
I'm a bit worried about switching between development and maintenance versions |
| 10:18 |
|
Hui_Nan_ |
it seems that I have to take care on db backups |
| 10:19 |
|
Hui_Nan_ |
backup current db, restore from the backup corresponding to the correct branch, switch to that branch |
| 10:20 |
|
Hui_Nan_ |
is testing db compatible with maintenance? |
| 10:28 |
|
hdl_laptop |
From my point of view, it is. |
| 10:28 |
|
Hui_Nan_ |
ok, I don't need to care of db, just checkout the codebase and everything gonna be ok |
| 10:29 |
|
Hui_Nan_ |
nice |
| 10:29 |
|
hdl_laptop |
I have not added table updates which were in dev version. |
| 10:29 |
|
hdl_laptop |
Hui_Nan_: just make a copy of your database, just in case. |
| 10:30 |
|
Hui_Nan_ |
ok |
| 10:51 |
|
chris |
also if you want you can just clone another copy of the repo |
| 10:52 |
|
chris |
and checkout the 3.0.x branch, or the maintenance branch in there and leave your dev version alone |
| 10:52 |
|
Hui_Nan_ |
still no choice but English on the step 1 of Web installation |
| 10:53 |
|
Hui_Nan_ |
misc/translator/install.pl required? |
| 10:55 |
|
chris |
yes after you install you can run that then change your language choices in the systempreferences |
| 11:12 |
|
Hui_Nan_ |
looks like an infinite loop |
