| Time |
S |
Nick |
Message |
| 12:05 |
|
christian |
bonjour |
| 12:06 |
|
christian |
bonjour |
| 13:06 |
|
cait2 |
good morning galen |
| 13:07 |
|
gmcharlt |
hi cait2 - how are you? |
| 13:07 |
|
cait2 |
fine, thx. following git you were busy yesterday - enjoy watching it :) |
| 13:09 |
|
slef |
hi all |
| 13:10 |
|
cait2 |
hi slef |
| 13:10 |
|
slef |
is this getting used much for the dev sessions? |
| 13:11 |
|
chris |
a bit slef |
| 13:14 |
|
slef |
"This Account Has Been Suspended" http://librariansmatter.com/blog/ |
| 13:16 |
|
chris |
yeah, bluehost is having issues |
| 13:16 |
|
davi |
hi |
| 13:16 |
|
chris |
and kathryn is near you now, well nearer, in london |
| 13:16 |
|
slef |
coo. For long? |
| 13:18 |
|
chris |
i think only a few days |
| 13:19 |
|
slef |
shame... I'm pretty booked again :( |
| 13:21 |
|
gmcharlt |
hi slef |
| 13:24 |
|
gmcharlt |
hackfest: pushed patches for 2336, 2363, 1731 - thanks paul_p |
| 13:24 |
|
gmcharlt |
hackfest: pushed another patch for 1545 - thanks chris |
| 13:24 |
|
gmcharlt |
hackfest: pushed OPAC focus CSS patch - thanks owen |
| 13:49 |
|
gmcharlt |
hackfest: pushed patches for 3102, 2338, 3136 |
| 14:07 |
|
gmcharlt |
tips and tricks being discussed at dev meeting |
| 14:08 |
|
gmcharlt |
nengard is taking notes and will post later, but some highlights |
| 14:08 |
|
gmcharlt |
* chris; running 'git gc' as part of creating a branch makes switching to branches to faster |
| 14:08 |
|
gmcharlt |
* screen (atz via kados and chris) |
| 14:09 |
|
gmcharlt |
* useful FireFox extensions for Koha development |
| 14:09 |
|
gmcharlt |
hackfast: pushed patches for bugs 3138 and 3139 - thanks nengard |
| 14:14 |
|
chris |
http://betterthangrep.com/ |
| 14:14 |
|
chris |
(ack ... which i use more than grep) |
| 14:37 |
|
nengard |
http://blogs.liblime.com/devel[…]-koha-developers/ |
| 14:37 |
|
chris |
http://wiki.koha.org/doku.php?[…]devweekendprogram |
| 14:37 |
|
chris |
please edit and add things to this |
| 14:47 |
|
chris |
hello kansas :) |
| 14:56 |
|
liz_nekls_ |
hiyas! |
| 14:58 |
|
liz_nekls_ |
o lol not talking to me |
| 15:00 |
|
chris |
hehe actually i was, just got distractied |
| 15:01 |
|
pianohacker |
fickle |
| 15:02 |
|
chris |
heh |
| 15:02 |
|
chris |
hey liz_nekls_ :) we just finished a bugzilla session |
| 15:02 |
|
gmcharlt |
hi liz_nekls_ |
| 15:03 |
|
liz_nekls_ |
i figured y'all were busy. Sad I missed it. |
| 15:03 |
|
liz_nekls_ |
:D |
| 15:03 |
|
liz_nekls_ |
(oi, still speaking texan) |
| 15:04 |
|
Sharon_ |
good morning |
| 15:04 |
|
nengard |
morning |
| 15:05 |
|
nengard |
did you two see bug 1545 :) the fixes are awesome!!!! |
| 15:05 |
|
liz_nekls_ |
i know! I saw that it was done, of course we won't see it for a while on our system |
| 15:05 |
|
liz_nekls_ |
but OMG so awesome |
| 15:06 |
|
liz_nekls_ |
will save us so much time |
| 15:06 |
|
liz_nekls_ |
SQUEEE! |
| 15:06 |
|
chris |
heh |
| 15:06 |
|
nengard |
liz_nekls_ just nag ryan and gmcharlt :) hehe maybe they can get it to you in the next batch of fixes |
| 15:06 |
|
Sharon_ |
I second Liz's squee |
| 15:07 |
|
liz_nekls_ |
>.> they love it when we nag |
| 15:09 |
|
Sharon_ |
have fun all...and safe journeys to anyone traveling today/tomorrow. |
| 15:09 |
|
pianohacker |
Sharon_: Thanks |
| 15:09 |
|
pianohacker |
gmcharlt: Do you know much about the itemcallnumber syspref? Seems like an ancestor of kohalink |
| 15:10 |
|
liz_nekls_ |
i think 3102 was one that I had fixed special in our templates, so thank brendan for me |
| 15:10 |
|
liz_nekls_ |
will further lead us toward the goal of (and this will make ppl here happy) no custom templates |
| 15:11 |
|
brendan |
heya liz_nekls_ |
| 15:12 |
|
liz_nekls_ |
oh hai! |
| 15:15 |
|
nengard |
Zotero bug I mentioned: http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…]w_bug.cgi?id=2432 would love to see this fixed |
| 15:27 |
|
nahuel |
for me this one |
| 15:28 |
|
nahuel |
nengard, zotero doesn't work in xsl ? |
| 15:31 |
|
nengard |
nahuel - nope ... |
| 15:32 |
|
nengard |
nahuel see here: http://nce.dev.kohalibrary.com[…]?biblionumber=725 there is no zotero icon in the address bar |
| 15:32 |
|
nengard |
and I have XSL on |
| 15:36 |
|
nahuel |
ok |
| 15:49 |
|
nengard |
just submitted my second template patch :) a little nerve-racking since it's so new to me |
| 15:54 |
|
nengard |
looking at pianohacker's new way of handling system preference definitions!! Love it!! |
| 15:55 |
|
slef |
nengard: can we see it? |
| 15:55 |
|
nengard |
slef -- not sure -- i can take pictures |
| 15:56 |
|
slef |
nengard: thanks. Did I miss a post or were there no kohacon streams or recordings? |
| 15:56 |
|
nengard |
slef they did record the talks - but I don't think they're uploaded anywhere yet |
| 15:56 |
|
chris |
there were video camera's in most (if not all) sessions |
| 15:57 |
|
chris |
s/\'//; |
| 15:57 |
|
nengard |
there were some blog posts and twitter and other aggregators of the conference |
| 15:57 |
|
nengard |
i posted one |
| 15:57 |
|
slef |
I've seen some slideshares, blogs and microblogs |
| 15:57 |
|
slef |
which were pretty interesting |
| 15:57 |
|
slef |
but I've been spoiled by the debian and apache conferences I guess ;) |
| 15:57 |
|
nengard |
slef - here's my stuff: http://blogs.liblime.com/open-[…]/category/kohacon |
| 15:57 |
|
nengard |
gonna upload the image now |
| 15:58 |
|
slef |
tyvm |
| 15:59 |
|
nengard |
http://www.flickr.com/photos/nengard/3455415425/ not sure if it does it justice, but it's a sneak peak |
| 16:00 |
|
slef |
ah, it gets rid of the "Edit" step? |
| 16:00 |
|
slef |
that would be good |
| 16:00 |
|
liz_nekls_ |
|
| 16:00 |
|
liz_nekls_ |
did you see the notes at lyb |
| 16:00 |
|
slef |
is there one big "Save" button at the end? |
| 16:00 |
|
liz_nekls_ |
did you see the notes at lybrarian.wordpress.com |
| 16:00 |
|
slef |
I've seen very little about this yet |
| 16:01 |
|
liz_nekls_ |
lol, kiddo says hi |
| 16:01 |
|
nengard |
slef no save button - i missed how it saves |
| 16:01 |
|
nengard |
also the text is all in a file instead of the DB - so you can edit it |
| 16:01 |
|
danny |
yes, slef there is one big Save All button at the end, i saw it |
| 16:01 |
|
nengard |
thanks danny |
| 16:01 |
|
slef |
looking now... sysprefs are one of the hardest things for librarians IME, so I get a bit worried by changes to it |
| 16:01 |
|
nengard |
slef he also grouped them |
| 16:01 |
|
liz_nekls_ |
ooh, pianohacker was busy |
| 16:01 |
|
nengard |
you can't see it on this page |
| 16:01 |
|
nengard |
on this image i should say |
| 16:02 |
|
nengard |
when he's done talking he might be able to tell you more :) |
| 16:03 |
|
slef |
(reading notes) RFID and EDI only in 3.4? We've RFID running in a basic form in 3.0 and we're working on EDI although publishers are a bottleneck so probably 3.4 is about right for that. |
| 16:04 |
|
nengard |
slef which notes said that? |
| 16:05 |
|
nengard |
about RFID? |
| 16:05 |
|
slef |
http://lybrarian.wordpress.com[…]on09-and-koha-32/ |
| 16:05 |
|
gmcharlt |
slef: yeah, RFID (particularly qua SIP2) is already there - look forward to your patches as well |
| 16:06 |
|
slef |
gmcharlt: when at least one of our new workers is in, I should have time to sync up to 3.0 branch and submit patches |
| 16:06 |
|
gmcharlt |
slef: cool |
| 16:06 |
|
slef |
gmcharlt: I assume we're OK using Danish model until the ISO standard settles? |
| 16:07 |
|
slef |
(I think 3M, 2CQR and TagStar all use it) |
| 16:07 |
|
gmcharlt |
slef: yes |
| 16:07 |
|
slef |
cool |
| 16:11 |
|
paul_p |
nengard: privacy works, except I've a question I want to deal with you. Let's do it after discussion about authorities |
| 16:12 |
|
nengard |
paul_p okay |
| 16:20 |
|
nahuel |
nengard, does it exists an marc21 test database that I can download ? |
| 16:20 |
|
nengard |
nahuel, i'm not sure - does anyone else know? |
| 16:27 |
|
pianohacker |
Back, had to restart after demo (curse you, X11) |
| 16:32 |
|
nahuel |
pianohacker, xrandr++ |
| 16:33 |
|
pianohacker |
Ubuntu 8.10 has support for xrandr. Something is wonky with my setup, I believe, since I had to restart to enable multiple screens but not to disable them |
| 16:34 |
|
pianohacker |
Jaunty++, really :) |
| 16:36 |
|
nahuel |
pianohacker, well I have 8.10 and no problem with xrandr |
| 16:36 |
|
nahuel |
my xorg.conf is really simple |
| 16:36 |
|
nahuel |
http://pastebin.com/f6711c2a8 |
| 16:40 |
|
nengard |
okay - i'm a bit confused about branches - when can I delete branches? I've created a branch before each patch I submitted ... but now what? |
| 16:40 |
|
pianohacker |
liz_nekls_: Hello again |
| 16:40 |
|
nengard |
oh - my question is about git |
| 16:40 |
|
nengard |
not library branches :) |
| 16:40 |
|
pianohacker |
nengard: Probably after the patch has been accepted |
| 16:40 |
|
liz_nekls_ |
hello, took a moment away for a video conference with the s |
| 16:40 |
|
nengard |
pianohacker okey dokey! |
| 16:40 |
|
liz_nekls_ |
spud's grandparents |
| 16:41 |
|
pianohacker |
liz_nekls_: Very nice |
| 16:41 |
|
nahuel |
nengard, you should always use the same git branch |
| 16:41 |
|
nahuel |
not a branch by patch |
| 16:41 |
|
nahuel |
and then to update |
| 16:41 |
|
nahuel |
git fetch && git rebase master |
| 16:42 |
|
nahuel |
and if some local patches as been pushed to master, they will "disapear" from local patches |
| 16:43 |
|
pianohacker |
nahuel: Multiple branches are nice to make sure that you don't have interdependent patches; database updates in particular have this problem |
| 16:44 |
|
nahuel |
well, it isn't easy to manage to much branches |
| 16:44 |
|
pianohacker |
It also helps anyone who follows your repo; a rebase will break git pull and require git fetch; git reset --hard origin |
| 16:44 |
|
pianohacker |
Oh, most definitely |
| 16:44 |
|
pianohacker |
But a few are nice |
| 16:44 |
|
nahuel |
git pull is bad for development branches |
| 16:44 |
|
nahuel |
or you should use git pull --rebase |
| 16:44 |
|
nengard |
I think I might need to talk to someone face to face about this at a later date |
| 16:45 |
|
pianohacker |
well... :) |
| 16:46 |
|
nengard |
lunch time might be a good time |
| 16:46 |
|
nengard |
:) |
| 18:00 |
|
chris |
back from lunch |
| 18:00 |
|
danny |
me too |
| 18:04 |
|
nahuel |
too |
| 18:16 |
|
pianohacker |
Unless anyone objects, I'm going to move some prefs around. There is no reason for RoutingSerials (which _appears_ to add more information to items created by serialsadditems) to be on the Cataloguing tab |
| 18:20 |
|
gmcharlt |
that's fine |
| 19:43 |
|
schuster |
Great blog entries about the conference... |
| 19:47 |
|
chris |
schuster: are you doing up a nice page of links? :) |
| 19:47 |
|
nahuel |
does kohanews bot can report new twitter entries ? |
| 19:52 |
|
schuster |
chris - we are working on putting a page together to link to the wiki... - nahuel - don't know... |
| 19:54 |
|
atz |
FRBR diagram from code4lib... http://www.frbr.org/files/frbr-er-diagram-5.png |
| 19:54 |
|
chris |
schuster: awesome |
| 19:55 |
|
schuster |
chris will need your help with all the presentation links/files - I would like to put them on the program page you created if possible. Still trying to figure out where we may "post" the videos of the presentations when ready... |
| 19:56 |
|
chris |
i wonder if we could make a channel on youtube? |
| 19:56 |
|
schuster |
youtube limits to 10 minutes... |
| 19:56 |
|
chris |
ahh, hmmm |
| 19:56 |
|
schuster |
I'm going to check to see if we can use my district streaming server.... |
| 19:56 |
|
chris |
sweet |
| 19:57 |
|
schuster |
If we can't we may have to check google video or if another library has a streaming server they would allow us to post them on. |
| 19:57 |
|
chris |
yeah, might have to do a call out on the list |
| 19:57 |
|
schuster |
Yep. |
| 19:58 |
|
chris |
and yep we can do links from the program, gmcharlt linked his presentation in already |
| 20:00 |
|
schuster |
So we will need to post them somewhere else and link? or can we upload docs? |
| 20:01 |
|
schuster |
ok thanks... Nice to have you in close proximity...;) |
| 20:09 |
|
danny |
does veoh allow you to upload videos that are longer then 10 min? |
| 20:14 |
|
danny |
oh google video says no duration or size limit |
| 20:14 |
|
schuster |
Yep that was why we were looking at google video... |
| 20:32 |
|
slef |
blip.tv works well IME - checking limits now |
| 20:34 |
|
slef |
limit 1GB |
| 20:35 |
|
slef |
discriminates against the visually-impaired but looks pretty reasonable otherwise |
| 20:44 |
|
mcpuddin |
Hello, I am new to Koha and am looking into it for an application for a rural school system in Honduras, anyone there to help me answer some initial questions about it? |
| 20:46 |
|
mcpuddin |
1) Is there any information in the docs about barcodes and scanners? |
| 20:46 |
|
mcpuddin |
2) Are there any standard templates out there? Especially ones in Spanish? |
| 20:48 |
|
nahuel |
mcpuddin, there is a full spanish(spain) translation |
| 20:48 |
|
nahuel |
mcpuddin, what do you want to know about scanners/barcodes ? |
| 20:49 |
|
mcpuddin |
where can I get those translated templates? |
| 20:49 |
|
nahuel |
did you get koha source kohe ? |
| 20:49 |
|
nahuel |
code |
| 20:49 |
|
mcpuddin |
I am currently running the debian vm image |
| 20:50 |
|
nahuel |
in the directory : misc/translator/ |
| 20:50 |
|
nahuel |
you have the script which translates |
| 20:50 |
|
nahuel |
and the translation files |
| 20:50 |
|
nahuel |
which generates the templates files |
| 20:50 |
|
nahuel |
don't know the vm image |
| 20:51 |
|
mcpuddin |
it was linked on the site, http://kylehall.info/index.php[…]irtual-appliance/ |
| 20:51 |
|
mcpuddin |
to install templates, do I follow the instructions in here ? http://www.kohadocs.org/KOHAtr[…]/translation.html |
| 20:51 |
|
schuster |
Scanners are input devices so there is no specific recommendation. |
| 20:52 |
|
mcpuddin |
gotcha, so the scanners would interface with browser itself? |
| 20:53 |
|
schuster |
Yes just like the keyboard as if you typed it. |
| 20:53 |
|
schuster |
Either through USB connection or a keyboard splitter. |
| 20:54 |
|
mcpuddin |
makes complete sense, so the scanner is then completely independent of KOHA |
| 20:54 |
|
mcpuddin |
thanks schuster =) |
| 20:54 |
|
schuster |
Yes |
| 20:55 |
|
nahuel |
for the translation i think you should follow those instructions |
| 20:55 |
|
mcpuddin |
in re: templates, my default install looks like it has no template on there, I haven't found so much documentation on templates, but do I need to download or make my own "skin"? |
| 20:56 |
|
nahuel |
mcpuddin, look at the example in misc/translator/rebuild_lang.sh |
| 20:58 |
|
mcpuddin |
haha thats where things are hiding |
| 20:58 |
|
mcpuddin |
i'll give this a whirl and see what comes of it, thanks nahuel |
| 21:06 |
|
nahuel |
ok |
| 21:11 |
|
mcpuddin |
alright, so here is where i'm at.. (i'm running KOHA 3 btw): The templates are located in koha-tmpl/[template_name]-tmpl |
| 21:12 |
|
mcpuddin |
The themes i see are intranet-tmpl and opac-tmpl (which are 2 different themes i can skin koha with), yes? |
| 21:14 |
|
mcpuddin |
(this is where I am confused), in order to switch between either of those themes i need to create a new parameter in my system_preferences called tempalte with the appropriate theme_name |
| 21:17 |
|
mcpuddin |
and once I find the them I want, I run the translation script to turn it into spanish |
| 21:17 |
|
mcpuddin |
am I headed in the right direciton? |
| 21:43 |
|
nahuel |
mcpuddin, non |
| 21:44 |
|
nahuel |
intranet-tmpl are the "intranet templates" |
| 21:44 |
|
nahuel |
and opac-tmpl the opac templates |
| 21:44 |
|
nahuel |
the themes might contain a intranet-tmpl and a opac-tmpl directory |
| 21:44 |
|
nahuel |
hhmmm |
| 21:44 |
|
nahuel |
no scuse :) |
| 21:44 |
|
nahuel |
i'm wrong |
| 21:44 |
|
nahuel |
in intranet-tmpl you have the "prog" template |
| 21:45 |
|
nahuel |
heu prog "theme" |
| 21:46 |
|
mcpuddin |
so there are 2 different types of themes then, one for the intranet (which is like admin area) and one for the opac (which is everyone elses area) |
| 21:47 |
|
nahuel |
exactly |
| 21:47 |
|
nahuel |
:) |
| 21:48 |
|
mcpuddin |
so lets say I were to download a new intranet template |
| 21:48 |
|
mcpuddin |
i would put it in the koha-tmpl/intranet-tmpl folder |
| 21:48 |
|
nahuel |
? |
| 21:49 |
|
nahuel |
there is only one intranet template as i know |
| 21:49 |
|
mcpuddin |
are there more OPAC ones? |
| 21:50 |
|
nahuel |
no :) |
| 21:50 |
|
nahuel |
it's too complicated to maintain |
| 21:50 |
|
nahuel |
else, with xsl template it should be easier |
| 21:51 |
|
mcpuddin |
ah, so people just customize the existing tempaltes to fit their needs? |
| 21:51 |
|
nahuel |
hmm |
| 21:51 |
|
nahuel |
no |
| 21:51 |
|
nahuel |
they uses the sysprefs for headers/footer/etc.. |
| 21:51 |
|
nahuel |
which includes code |
| 21:51 |
|
caj |
mcpuddin: it becomes hard to upgrade or maintain |
| 21:52 |
|
nahuel |
http://www.myacpl.org/koha/?p=160 |
| 21:52 |
|
nahuel |
mcpuddin, you can take a look to this url |
| 21:52 |
|
nahuel |
owen leonard did some tutorial |
| 21:52 |
|
mcpuddin |
haha |
| 21:52 |
|
mcpuddin |
wow that'll probably answer all my questions by just reading the title of it |
| 21:53 |
|
nahuel |
:) |
| 21:53 |
|
mcpuddin |
thanks again guys for being very helpful =) |
| 21:53 |
|
nahuel |
you're welcome :) |
| 22:31 |
|
caj |
what's the best way to roll back a commit? |
| 22:31 |
|
nahuel |
git reset ? |
| 22:31 |
|
caj |
works for me thanks |
| 23:30 |
|
pianohacker |
dev meeting mostly over |
| 03:32 |
|
Amit |
hi brendan, chris, mason morning |
| 03:35 |
|
mason |
heya amit |
| 03:35 |
|
Amit |
mason: how the weekend |
| 03:38 |
|
brendan |
hey amit |
| 03:39 |
|
brendan |
hey mason |
| 03:41 |
|
chris |
hey brenda, amit |
| 03:41 |
|
Amit |
hi chris |
| 03:42 |
|
chris |
brendan even |
| 03:42 |
|
brendan |
thanks chris |
| 03:43 |
|
chris |
:) in new mexico now? |
| 03:44 |
|
brendan |
yes - 640 miles today! |
| 03:46 |
|
chris |
yikes |
| 03:48 |
|
brendan |
not to bad -- I had some red bull !!! - plus a bunch of koha thoughts to motivate me! |
| 03:48 |
|
chris |
hehe |
| 03:49 |
|
chris |
only a few of us left for tomorrow now, and most are heading out tomorrow |
| 03:50 |
|
brendan |
dev's meeting still going on tomorrow -- or time for vacation! |
| 03:52 |
|
chris |
some hacking tomorrow, but informal |
| 03:52 |
|
chris |
im gonna do some relaxing for at least half the day |
| 03:52 |
|
chris |
i saw a target that i wanna check out |
| 03:56 |
|
brendan |
later chris -- going to have some fun myself |
| 03:56 |
|
chris |
cool |
| 03:59 |
|
mason |
heya brendan too :) |
| 03:59 |
|
mason |
amit, good weekend thanks |
| 05:11 |
|
Amit |
hi greenmang0 |
| 05:12 |
|
greenmang0 |
Amit: morning |
| 05:57 |
|
eiro |
hello koha people |
| 06:05 |
|
Amit |
hi eiro |
| 07:49 |
|
Amit |
chris: http://www.newdelhinews.net/story/487886 |
| 08:57 |
|
Amit |
hi kf |
| 09:35 |
|
kf |
hi A |
| 09:35 |
|
kf |
mit |
