| Time |
S |
Nick |
Message |
| 11:00 |
|
hdl_laptop |
hi |
| 11:01 |
|
Amit |
hi hdl |
| 18:29 |
|
pianohacker |
Hmm. Is it common practice (or at least encouraged) to indent inside <!-- TMPL_IF --> or <!-- TMPL_LOOP -->? |
| 18:29 |
|
pianohacker |
Or just follow the indentation of the HTML? |
| 18:30 |
|
owen |
I suspect it's up to the whim of the author at the moment |
| 18:30 |
|
pianohacker |
That's what I thought |
| 18:30 |
|
gmcharlt |
yep, whim of author |
| 18:31 |
|
gmcharlt |
I like indenting within tmpl_if and tmpl_loop |
| 18:31 |
|
gmcharlt |
but obviously can lead to rather wide pages |
| 18:31 |
|
gmcharlt |
set termsize=2048x80 |
| 18:32 |
|
pianohacker |
Perhaps I should look into a smaller font and a pair of reading glasses |
| 18:34 |
|
gmcharlt |
custom syntax highlighter might be easier on your eyes :) |
| 18:34 |
|
pianohacker |
Heh |
| 19:53 |
|
hdl_laptop |
pianohacker: problem with that indentation is that sometimes, it makes things much longer than necessary for a page since linebreaks are copied and paste |
| 19:54 |
|
pianohacker |
Yeah, in view source |
| 19:54 |
|
hdl_laptop |
yeah and this I find more confusing than getting TMPL_IF or loops on oneline. |
| 19:55 |
|
hdl_laptop |
But this is My opinion. |
| 19:55 |
|
hdl_laptop |
Another thing is that DOM elements can take spaces... |
| 19:55 |
|
hdl_laptop |
So this is also to consider. |
| 19:56 |
|
chris |
i wonder does html::template have a filter mechanism like template::toolkit does |
| 19:57 |
|
pianohacker |
chris: No, that would be too useful for html::template's tastes |
| 19:57 |
|
chris |
i have to admit, i love tt now |
| 19:57 |
|
chris |
we could do it ourselves tho, in koha's case |
| 19:57 |
|
chris |
as we use C4::Output |
| 19:58 |
|
chris |
it could filter out whitespace |
| 19:58 |
|
pianohacker |
It would actually be fairly trivial, though we'd want it to be partially controlled by a syspref, so devs could have a useful view-source |
| 19:58 |
|
chris |
*nod* |
| 19:59 |
|
gmcharlt |
want to put something together? |
| 19:59 |
|
chris |
just for cutting down page size in production, its suprising how much difference that can make |
| 19:59 |
|
chris |
can do, ill have a go after work tonight |
| 19:59 |
|
pianohacker |
I'm actually working on a revamp (again) of the sysprefs page that would be greatly helped by that patch. |
| 20:00 |
|
chris |
gmcharlt: did you see the history.txt im working on? |
| 20:00 |
|
gmcharlt |
not yet - where is it? |
| 20:01 |
|
chris |
its in git, on github or my git .. ill send a patch when its closer to done ... 2 secs ill get a url |
| 20:01 |
|
chris |
http://git.workbuffer.org/cgi-[…]docs/history.txt; |
| 20:02 |
|
chris |
figure get it in there, then we can get patches from people to fill in the blanks :) |
| 20:03 |
|
gmcharlt |
cool |
| 20:03 |
|
gmcharlt |
is HLT's original ILS old/dead enough to identify? |
| 20:03 |
|
pianohacker |
That's very comprehensive, chris++ |
| 20:03 |
|
chris |
it started off just as my notes for the presentation |
| 20:03 |
|
chris |
but then i thought, hey this is good to get into git as well |
| 20:04 |
|
chris |
oh yeah i should put in the dates HLT upgraded |
| 20:04 |
|
chris |
once to 1.2.3 and once to 2.2.5 (havent got there yet) |
| 20:04 |
|
chris |
and soon to 3.0.x |
| 20:05 |
|
chris |
gmcharlt: yeah it was called c2 |
| 20:05 |
|
chris |
hence c4 ... twice as good, or might explode :-) |
| 20:05 |
|
chris |
catalist |
| 20:05 |
|
gmcharlt |
I see a every_theory_of_the_genesis_of_the_name_c4.txt in the near future :) |
| 20:06 |
|
chris |
http://www.contecds.com/library.htm <-- that one |
| 20:06 |
|
pianohacker |
gmcharlt: Does the git.koha.org server have large file support compiled in? |
| 20:06 |
|
chris |
course it wasnt windows based at the time |
| 20:07 |
|
chris |
it was totally dos ... running on dosemu on linux |
| 20:07 |
|
chris |
gmcharlt: its been c4, then kumara, then koha :) |
| 20:08 |
|
chris |
gmcharlt: c2 was (is??) pick based |
| 20:08 |
|
gmcharlt |
good old PICK |
| 20:08 |
|
chris |
so olwen had to spend a bunch of time writing PICK to get the data out |
| 20:08 |
|
chris |
I must add her name to the history |
| 20:09 |
|
gmcharlt |
pianohacker: yes - why? |
| 20:09 |
|
pianohacker |
If you're going to have that theory_of_the_name_c4.txt file in there, it'd better |
| 20:10 |
|
gmcharlt |
heh |
| 20:10 |
|
chris |
what are some of the theories? |
| 20:11 |
|
chris |
would be quite a fun file |
| 20:37 |
|
headbang |
hi |
| 20:38 |
|
pianohacker |
headbang: hello |
| 20:38 |
|
headbang |
by any change someone from libki around |
| 20:38 |
|
chris |
libki? |
| 20:38 |
|
pianohacker |
headbang: I think you want kyle hall |
| 20:39 |
|
headbang |
yeah |
| 20:39 |
|
headbang |
thats him :) |
| 20:40 |
|
pianohacker |
headbang: Here's his contact page: http://kylehall.info/index.php/contact/ |
| 20:40 |
|
headbang |
yeah hoped to get some rela time help from him |
| 20:41 |
|
pianohacker |
Ah. Don't think I've seen him on IRC |
| 20:41 |
|
gmcharlt |
yeah, he doesn't show up on #koha very often - email will be quicker |
| 20:42 |
|
headbang |
ok |
| 20:42 |
|
headbang |
ill try that tomorow then :) |
| 20:42 |
|
headbang |
was hoping to get libki server to work |
| 21:39 |
|
headbang |
noone else who uses libki? |
| 01:28 |
|
Jo |
hi all. I am working through the Implementation check list in koha 3.0 manual, and need to make sure I have "set up and define staff patron records and set permissions". |
| 01:28 |
|
Jo |
and I am not what that means ... I have set up patron catagories (including a worker) but I suspect the permission sbit is something else again |
| 01:29 |
|
Jo |
any ideas of where i should be looking in the setup? |
| 01:30 |
|
Jo |
sys pref / granular permissions (maybe..) |
| 01:30 |
|
chris |
you have to add your staff |
| 01:30 |
|
chris |
if they werent in there already |
| 01:30 |
|
chris |
then set the permissions for each of them |
| 01:31 |
|
chris |
if its using the data from your old koha, then they should be in there already, you might just have to fix their permissions |
| 02:28 |
|
Jo |
ok thanks Chris. SO once we do the conversion of Patrons from koha 2 to 3 we should be able to see what needs doing then. |
| 02:29 |
|
chris |
yep, assuming you had each of your staff as a patron in 2 |
| 02:31 |
|
Jo |
ok. will check. thanks |
| 02:31 |
|
chris |
np, new server all up and going now? |
| 03:03 |
|
Jo |
nope. still a loan one |
| 03:30 |
|
Amit |
hi chris, mason, brendan good morning |
| 03:31 |
|
brendan |
Good morning Amit! Chris and Mason... |
| 03:31 |
|
brendan |
Evening here |
| 03:31 |
|
Amit |
good evening |
| 03:33 |
|
chris |
afternoon here |
| 03:36 |
|
Amit |
hi chris good morning |
| 04:57 |
|
chris |
right, back at home |
| 05:49 |
|
elwell |
chris: has anyone got a plot of no of contributors over time? be nice to see if its linear/exponential |
| 05:49 |
|
elwell |
(looking at the history.tzt |
| 05:50 |
|
chris |
we are up to i think 88 now |
| 05:51 |
|
chris |
http://stats.workbuffer.org/ |
| 05:51 |
|
chris |
some stats there |
| 05:52 |
|
chris |
(88 is just a guesstimate trying to remove the duplicates) |
| 05:53 |
|
chris |
and i think we just got one more new one today (ill have to rebuild stats when the patch is accepted) which would make you 3rd to last :) |
| 05:53 |
|
elwell |
heh thats 2 higher than I expected |
| 05:54 |
|
chris |
you, then Daniel Sweeney, then Jane Wagner |
| 05:54 |
|
chris |
just updated the history.txt |
| 05:54 |
|
chris |
bought halfway through 2004 now |
| 05:54 |
|
chris |
bout even |
| 05:55 |
|
chris |
http://git.workbuffer.org/cgi-[…]docs/history.txt; |
| 05:57 |
|
chris |
but my son is demanding i play trains |
| 05:57 |
|
chris |
so taking a break :) |
| 05:57 |
|
elwell |
you folks up in N Island? |
| 06:09 |
|
chris |
right he's having his cup of milk before doing his teeth for bed now .. he'll drag this out as long as he can :) |
| 06:09 |
|
chris |
yeah wellington |
| 06:23 |
|
chris |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_LaAkAyoz0 <-- landing at wellington :) |
| 06:27 |
|
chris |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v[…]Q&feature=related <-- thats what i was actually looking for |
| 06:38 |
|
elwell |
yeah - we were there (briefly) last July. Nice place, even in winter |
| 06:40 |
|
elwell |
that landing clip at 0:56 is an interesting technique - nose wheel first |
| 06:42 |
|
chris |
yeah, it can get pretty scary |
| 06:43 |
|
chris |
short runway too, so they have to break pretty hard |
| 06:44 |
|
chris |
brake |
| 06:44 |
|
chris |
they dont often break :) |
| 06:44 |
|
elwell |
well, lack of one leads to the other |
| 06:44 |
|
chris |
yup |
| 06:48 |
|
elwell |
:-) like your 'advantages of working from home' page |
| 06:48 |
|
elwell |
/your/katipo/ |
| 06:49 |
|
chris |
yep, i enjoyed those for 9 years ;) |
| 06:49 |
|
chris |
im enjoying working in at an office at catalyst though .. can really work from home with a toddler |
| 06:49 |
|
chris |
can=can't |
| 06:50 |
|
chris |
work half the year at home and half the year in an office at liblime |
| 06:50 |
|
elwell |
aye. Least ours are at school, but you need a flexible boss to fit in with dropoffs/pickup/sick etc |
| 06:50 |
|
chris |
*nod* |
| 06:50 |
|
chris |
both catalyst and katipo are good like that |
| 06:51 |
|
chris |
the directors/owners have kids too, so understand |
| 06:53 |
|
elwell |
don't suppose you've met Paul Walmsley in your IT excursions have you? Used to work with him here in the UK but he's now in christchurch (but travels -- any work is work) |
| 06:54 |
|
chris |
i dont think so, but im bad with names |
| 06:56 |
|
elwell |
http://qasol.com/ <-- thats him |
| 07:02 |
|
chris |
nope don't think so, the photo doesnt ring any bells |
| 07:24 |
|
Amit_Gupta |
hi nahuel |
| 07:27 |
|
nahuel |
hi |
| 07:30 |
|
kf |
good morning all |
| 07:30 |
|
Amit_Gupta |
hi kf ;) |
| 07:31 |
|
chris |
ohh 2 new languages for translation |
| 07:32 |
|
kf |
hi Amit :) |
| 07:32 |
|
chris |
Dari and Pashto (from Afghanistan) |
| 07:35 |
|
paul_p |
hello world. |
| 07:35 |
|
Amit_Gupta |
hi paul ;) |
| 07:36 |
|
paul_p |
(to present 2008 financial results) |
