| Time |
S |
Nick |
Message |
| 13:19 |
|
jwagner |
Can someone answer a historical question? Is there a reason the patron table doesn't have a separate state field for addresses? For U.S. libraries that would seem to be a given. There is a separate municipality field, but it's not part of the main address section. I'm wondering if there was a particular reason this field hasn't been added. Thanks. |
| 13:25 |
|
paul_p |
hi jwagner. |
| 13:26 |
|
hdl_laptop |
hi jwagner |
| 13:26 |
|
paul_p |
i'm probably a good historian ;-) |
| 13:26 |
|
paul_p |
the answer is probably: because v1 was done by a kiwi (New Zealand), then a frenchy came (me & hdl), and none of us have this question. |
| 13:29 |
|
jwagner |
I thought that might be it. I'm not sure it's critical -- the library can enter City, State in the City field -- but we got a question on it. It might be something to keep in mind if someone is overhauling the patron table in the future. I think there are other countries than the U.S. that have the equivalent of states in addresses. Thanks. |
| 13:34 |
|
owen |
I agree with jwagner on the City/State issue, but I share the US perspective. I suspect the preferred UI would be different for different countries. |
| 13:37 |
|
jwagner |
Maybe some kind of template that allows the site to pick the fields that should be part of a standard address? I haven't dug into templates much yet -- don't know if that functionality is already there. |
| 13:37 |
|
owen |
Nope |
| 13:37 |
|
owen |
But I think it's a good idea. Some kind of global template for what patron fields to use. |
| 13:37 |
|
owen |
I can imagine it, but I don't know how you'd make it work :) |
| 13:39 |
|
jwagner |
Something like the MARC framework but simpler, for patron records? With settings for Required, Optional, and Don't Display in the record editor? |
| 13:42 |
|
paul_p |
jwagner: there's already something to have fields mandatory/non mandatory. "hidden" could be added easily I think (it's a syspref, don't remember which atm) |
| 13:44 |
|
owen |
then we'd have to add some fields to accommodate different variations on city/state |
| 13:45 |
|
owen |
...and maybe zip code/post code/whatever? |
| 13:45 |
|
paul_p |
and probably alternate address & 2nd, 3rd, 4th mail ... |
| 13:45 |
|
paul_p |
we have some libraries thinking the patron form is much too heavy ! |
| 13:46 |
|
paul_p |
(some being happy with it) |
| 13:46 |
|
paul_p |
so, having a "hidden" option for each field is a very good idea ;-) |
| 13:46 |
|
jwagner |
Paul, the syspref you're referring to is BorrowerMandatoryField, correct? Yes, maybe that could be expanded somehow. I was also thinking about the patron edit screen -- where the fields are placed for data entry. |
| 13:46 |
|
paul_p |
jwagner: right |
| 13:49 |
|
owen |
From a usability point of view the trouble with BorrowerMandatoryField is that the librarian has to know the field names |
| 13:51 |
|
paul_p |
owen: ++ |
| 13:52 |
|
jwagner |
Yes, I noticed that. I'm not sure it's possible to modify the syspref edit screen to allow a pulldown or selection list, but maybe just add a display line containing all the field names? |
| 13:53 |
|
paul_p |
cheap version : add the field names (but think translations : that won't be good for other languages) |
| 13:54 |
|
paul_p |
perfect version : add a pulldown |
| 13:54 |
|
owen |
The language and opaclanguages prefs are a better model I think |
| 13:55 |
|
gmcharlt |
hdl_laptop: about? |
| 14:00 |
|
hdl_laptop |
yes |
| 14:00 |
|
hdl_laptop |
gmcharlt: i am here |
| 14:00 |
|
gmcharlt |
hdl_laptop: got a 3.0.1 tarfile for me? |
| 14:01 |
|
hdl_laptop |
I sent the link on dl.free.fr yesterday |
| 14:02 |
|
gmcharlt |
hdl_laptop: I must have missed - please send it again |
| 14:03 |
|
hdl_laptop |
resent |
| 14:04 |
|
gmcharlt |
got it now - didn't receive the email yesterday |
| 14:06 |
|
hdl_laptop |
http://dl.free.fr/cIEoRF3MK |
| 14:06 |
|
hdl_laptop |
this link. |
| 14:06 |
|
hdl_laptop |
gmcharlt: so kados must have missed it too. |
| 14:07 |
|
gmcharlt |
no matter, after I verify it, will put it today |
| 14:07 |
|
gmcharlt |
then you can announce the release |
| 14:26 |
|
hdl_laptop |
ok thx |
| 15:17 |
|
liz |
question: is there a way to report on items that have a "long in transit time" |
| 15:17 |
|
liz |
in-transit |
| 15:19 |
|
owen |
Isn't that "transfers to receive" ? /cgi-bin/koha/circ/transferstoreceive.pl |
| 15:20 |
|
liz |
hm |
| 15:20 |
|
liz |
I'm thinking of items that are listed as "in transit" |
| 15:21 |
|
liz |
let me run it and look |
| 15:25 |
|
owen |
I don't know...The results of that report aren't exactly what I was thinking of, but it does list the date of transfer so you could see what the oldest ones were |
| 15:26 |
|
owen |
And that report does list things that are in transit, either because they're going back to their home branch or because they're on hold |
| 15:35 |
|
kf |
there is a syspref for long in transit warnings: TransfersMaxDaysWarning |
| 15:37 |
|
kf |
nicole writes: It is a way to alert that items in transit have not reached their destination in a reasonable amount of time. |
| 15:40 |
|
hdl_laptop |
gmcharlt: have you had time to take a look at borrowers import I sent you in December ? |
| 15:42 |
|
liz |
kf: how does it alert? |
| 15:42 |
|
hdl_laptop |
atz: about the OpenNCIP code in Koha, is there a way to make stuff synch again ? Is there a plan to do so ? |
| 15:42 |
|
atz |
i was discussing it w/ phase_fx |
| 15:43 |
|
hdl_laptop |
code4lib channel ? |
| 15:43 |
|
atz |
it would be reasonable to do, but will require refactoring Koha install to CPAN it, for example |
| 15:43 |
|
atz |
no, phasefx is on here still |
| 15:44 |
|
atz |
i would like to do it, but it isn't a very high priority |
| 15:45 |
|
atz |
i think the differences are minor there |
| 15:45 |
|
liz |
kf: nm, rtfm |
| 15:45 |
|
kf |
sorry, afk liz |
| 15:46 |
|
liz |
sok, i found it :) |
| 15:46 |
|
kf |
ok :) |
| 15:49 |
|
kf |
team bowling today yay - bye #koha :) |
| 18:49 |
|
tim |
Does anyone know what would cause some subfields to be hidden in the editor on Koha 3 when they aren't set to hidden in the framework? |
| 19:15 |
|
chris |
yo nicole |
| 19:15 |
|
chris |
tim: beats me |
| 19:15 |
|
nengard |
yo |
| 19:15 |
|
nengard |
is paul around? |
| 19:15 |
|
nengard |
i wanted to get the kohacon announcement up on koha.org |
| 19:15 |
|
chris |
just missed him |
| 19:15 |
|
chris |
i can do that |
| 19:16 |
|
nengard |
thanks chris |
| 19:16 |
|
nengard |
that would be great |
| 19:16 |
|
nengard |
just the email he sent to kohadevel |
| 19:16 |
|
nengard |
it's the press release |
| 19:16 |
|
chris |
and to the main koha one? |
| 19:16 |
|
nengard |
and i want to link to it |
| 19:16 |
|
nengard |
yes - koha.org news |
| 19:16 |
|
chris |
k |
| 19:16 |
|
chris |
on the homepage? |
| 19:16 |
|
mason |
morning kids |
| 19:16 |
|
nengard |
y |
| 19:16 |
|
chris |
k |
| 19:17 |
|
tim |
nengard, I finally just set the fields to mandatory by editing the marc_subfield_structure table. I'd still like to know why they woudn't show and why I can't set them to mandatory through the Koha interface. |
| 19:17 |
|
chris |
hey mason |
| 19:17 |
|
nengard |
tim - i'm confused - is this in relation to an email i have? or something else - |
| 19:17 |
|
mason |
tim: beats me too |
| 19:17 |
|
nengard |
if it beats the developers - then maybe it's a bug?? |
| 19:18 |
|
nengard |
chris - the news should be here: http://koha.org/about-koha/news/ i guess |
| 19:18 |
|
nengard |
and that shows on the homepage |
| 19:19 |
|
tim |
Yup. It's the same problem as in the email. My wording seems to be messed up. |
| 19:19 |
|
chris |
yeah you have to choose if you want it on the homepage or not |
| 19:19 |
|
chris |
kea has a pretty cool news system |
| 19:19 |
|
nengard |
ah |
| 19:24 |
|
nengard |
thanks chris |
| 19:24 |
|
nengard |
to all: http://koha.org/about-koha/news/nr1233775168.html |
| 19:27 |
|
nengard |
chris - is there a way to fix the RSS feed on this page?? http://koha.org/about-koha/news/index.html If you can fix it then I can pull it into Facebook on the Koha Pages |
| 19:29 |
|
chris |
i didnt know it even had a feed |
| 19:30 |
|
chris |
oh yeah, it doesnt |
| 19:32 |
|
Khalsa |
waoh cool kohacon in Plano |
| 19:33 |
|
Khalsa |
would it be ok for someone who knows next-to-nothing about koha to go? |
| 19:33 |
|
chris |
yes indeed |
| 19:34 |
|
Khalsa |
also, why a thursday-friday? |
| 19:34 |
|
chris |
why not? :) |
| 19:35 |
|
chris |
if im gonna fly all the way from nz, i want at least a weekend there too :) |
| 19:35 |
|
Khalsa |
fair enough |
| 19:36 |
|
Khalsa |
sucks for me though since thursday's are difficult to get off, and pretty much all the things I'd want to go to are on the thursday >_> |
| 19:36 |
|
Khalsa |
and most conferences like this are usualy fri-sat which work out better (for me) |
| 19:38 |
|
Khalsa |
Luckily it's only a 230 mile drive for me (not a long ass flight like you) |
| 19:38 |
|
chris |
hmm its 1 hr flight to auckland, 13 hours to LA .. then whatever it takes to fly from there to texas .. ill be pretty tired :) |
| 19:39 |
|
Khalsa |
which is why you should take one day to rest and have the conference on fri-sat :p |
| 19:39 |
|
chris |
heh |
| 19:39 |
|
danny |
lol |
| 19:40 |
|
chris |
oh ill be flying the tuesday or so |
| 19:40 |
|
chris |
the developers conference is the 3 days after |
| 19:41 |
|
Khalsa |
I guess I shouldn't ask for much more. The group whom I'm about to try and help with Koha is in Dallas, so that part at least works out perfectly |
| 19:41 |
|
Khalsa |
I'll drag 2-3 of those people along |
| 19:41 |
|
chris |
awesome |
| 19:41 |
|
chris |
the more the merrier |
| 19:41 |
|
danny |
chris, has that been finalized too it will be the sat, sun, mon after? |
| 19:42 |
|
chris |
i think thats pretty much finalised now danny, afaik |
| 19:42 |
|
danny |
cool |
| 19:44 |
|
nengard |
Khalsa make sure you register everyone who's coming - we need a head count - since it's free we have to make sure everything is set up ahead of time |
| 19:45 |
|
Khalsa |
will-do |
| 19:45 |
|
nengard |
also share that link around so other Koha users and developers see it :) |
| 19:45 |
|
nengard |
so chris - back to that RSS ... any ideas??? :) |
| 19:54 |
|
chris |
nengard: that has never worked |
| 19:55 |
|
chris |
<link rel="alternate" type="application/rss+xml" title="Development Blog" href="http://blogs.koha.org/xml/rss.xml" /> |
| 19:55 |
|
kados |
nicomo: fwiw, clay is working on the plone environment |
| 19:55 |
|
nicomo |
ok, cool |
| 19:55 |
|
kados |
oops, meant that for nengard |
| 19:55 |
|
kados |
:) |
| 19:55 |
|
nicomo |
never mind : I'm interested in it too |
| 19:56 |
|
nicomo |
as I'll have to think about the way we manage the french version of the manual too |
| 19:56 |
|
nicomo |
:-) |
| 19:56 |
|
kados |
should be easy with plone as you can translate pages directly |
| 19:56 |
|
nicomo |
cool : so keep me posted, thanks ;-) |
| 21:41 |
|
atz |
jeez, #kohanews is on fire today |
| 21:42 |
|
atz |
gmcharlt: finding GetMarcFromKohaField calls that don't supply necessary 2nd argument |
| 21:42 |
|
atz |
(argument can be "", but can't be undef) |
| 21:44 |
|
atz |
may cause weirdness... including call number sort breaking, perhaps |
| 21:44 |
|
atz |
patch coming |
| 21:45 |
|
atz |
seems strange, but we end up using "" as a key in a hashref |
| 21:45 |
|
atz |
didn't think that was legal |
| 21:45 |
|
atz |
but i guess it is |
| 21:47 |
|
gmcharlt |
atz: "" is legal has a hash key, undef is not |
| 21:49 |
|
atz |
yeah, that's what i was saying |
| 21:56 |
|
atz |
gmcharlt: patch sent |
| 22:33 |
|
Khalsa |
Is the koha 3.x docs ( https://sites.google.com/a/lib[…]/koha-manual/Home ) complete enough for me to use as a base to start from to learn about koha? |
| 22:37 |
|
mason |
sure it is ;) |
| 03:29 |
|
Amit |
hi gm koha |
| 03:29 |
|
Amit |
gm mason |
| 04:00 |
|
irma |
server -m freenode |
| 06:17 |
|
mc |
hello world |
| 06:20 |
|
Amit |
hi mc |
| 07:26 |
|
chris |
evening |
| 07:29 |
|
Amit |
hi chris |
| 08:11 |
|
mason |
heya amit and chris |
| 08:11 |
|
Amit |
hi |
| 08:16 |
|
anasha |
hi mason |
| 08:16 |
|
anasha |
hows you? |
| 08:18 |
|
paul_p |
hello everybody |
| 08:18 |
|
mason |
me good :) |
| 08:21 |
|
hdl_laptop |
hi anasha mason and paul_p |
| 08:24 |
|
anasha |
hello hdl_laptop |
| 08:59 |
|
HARE9 |
hi |
