| Time |
S |
Nick |
Message |
| 12:02 |
|
gmcharlt |
greetings #koha |
| 12:34 |
|
kados |
g'morning owen, ccatalfo |
| 12:34 |
|
owen |
Hi |
| 12:35 |
|
owen |
Thanks for the help with the issuing rules, kados |
| 12:35 |
|
kados |
np, sorry I didn't get to it sooner |
| 12:35 |
|
owen |
we don't have any method in 3.0 for showing circ limits, do we? |
| 12:36 |
|
owen |
Obviously there needs to be a more flexible way to set it up |
| 12:37 |
|
ccatalfo |
morning #koha |
| 12:40 |
|
kados |
owen: you mean to display on the circ page on the staff client like NPL has? |
| 12:40 |
|
hdl |
hi #koha |
| 12:40 |
|
kados |
yea, we don't have that in 3.0, it's an easy add, but we do need it to be more flexible |
| 12:40 |
|
kados |
hey hdl |
| 12:40 |
|
owen |
Yeah. I know NPL is going to want to have that in 3.0, but as we found out, they don't want /all/ item types displayed |
| 12:40 |
|
kados |
*nod* |
| 12:59 |
|
kados |
yay |
| 13:00 |
|
hdl |
congrats kados |
| 13:00 |
|
hdl |
(I've just seen Movers & shakers) |
| 13:08 |
|
hdl |
kados : some person have problems entering items with no barcode because barcode is NOT NULL + there is an index. Is there a way to allow this ? |
| 13:08 |
|
kados |
hdl: why is barcode NOT NULL? |
| 13:11 |
|
hdl |
kados : I checked kohastructure.pl and it can be NULL. |
| 13:11 |
|
hdl |
OK. |
| 13:12 |
|
kados |
hdl: maybe a prob with updatedatabase? |
| 13:12 |
|
hdl |
well may be. |
| 14:01 |
|
gmcharlt |
hi everybody, I'd like to introduce a new LibLimer |
| 14:01 |
|
gmcharlt |
acmoore is Andrew Moore, our newest developer |
| 14:01 |
|
acmoore |
Hi all! |
| 14:01 |
|
acmoore |
Thanks, Galen. |
| 14:02 |
|
owen |
Hi Andrew, welcome |
| 14:02 |
|
owen |
kados, is the AmazonAssocTag preference still required? |
| 14:03 |
|
kados |
owen: yes, i think so |
| 14:03 |
|
kados |
acmoore: welcome! |
| 14:05 |
|
kados |
owen: it's possible they don't require it in ESC 4.0, I haven't tested |
| 14:06 |
|
owen |
Doesn't look like it's necessary |
| 14:16 |
|
nengard |
owen & kados - does this mean i should remove the note i had in the manual saying it was required? |
| 14:16 |
|
kados |
nengard: yea, I'd say it's optional I guess |
| 14:17 |
|
kados |
it used to be mandatory :-) |
| 14:17 |
|
nengard |
okey dokey - will do kados |
| 14:19 |
|
kados |
hdl: just noticed that the online help only works in firefox, not safari or IE |
| 14:19 |
|
hdl |
hi acmoore |
| 14:20 |
|
kados |
hdl: are you experiencing the same thing? |
| 14:20 |
|
hdl |
I donot have any safari or IE to test. |
| 14:21 |
|
hdl |
But that seems strange. |
| 14:21 |
|
kados |
any other browsers? |
| 14:21 |
|
hdl |
Is this because of window name ? |
| 14:21 |
|
hdl |
Opera |
| 14:21 |
|
kados |
very strange |
| 14:23 |
|
atz |
possibly because the perl script that responds sends unclean headers, then redirect |
| 14:24 |
|
atz |
that is very strange... I'll try to test that w/ IE in VM |
| 14:24 |
|
hdl |
online help works in Opera. |
| 14:27 |
|
fbcit |
g'morning all |
| 14:28 |
|
nengard |
hdl: i'm writing the manual and have a question about the opac cloud |
| 14:28 |
|
nengard |
do i need my system to re-idnex for the opac cloud to work? if not, then it's not working - and i have another bug to report :( |
| 14:28 |
|
kados |
hey fbcit |
| 14:28 |
|
kados |
nengard: there might already be a bug for that one |
| 14:28 |
|
nengard |
kados: i'll search |
| 14:29 |
|
owen |
I can confirm online help isn't working with IE6 |
| 14:29 |
|
kados |
it should probably be OFF by default, as it's an 'experimental' feature |
| 14:31 |
|
nengard |
kados: shouldn't we have something like that display in the preference so people know that it's experimental? I'll note it as such in the manual |
| 14:33 |
|
kados |
yea, we should |
| 14:33 |
|
kados |
ooh, nengard, looks like you just threw a 500 error |
| 14:33 |
|
nengard |
yes |
| 14:33 |
|
kados |
nengard: how'd you manage that? |
| 14:33 |
|
hdl |
yes. |
| 14:33 |
|
nengard |
was about to put a bug in for it |
| 14:33 |
|
nengard |
hehe |
| 14:34 |
|
nengard |
clicked on browse by subject and clicked submit |
| 14:34 |
|
kados |
ahh, yea, that'd do it |
| 14:34 |
|
kados |
browse by subject and subject cloud don't work |
| 14:34 |
|
nengard |
hdl & kados the note has been added to the manual |
| 14:34 |
|
kados |
they're experimental :-) |
| 14:34 |
|
nengard |
kados: i'll add a note about that too |
| 14:34 |
|
kados |
I'll disable them by default |
| 14:35 |
|
hdl |
nengard: one has to launch buildopaccloud before it can be used. |
| 14:35 |
|
kados |
hdl: do you have a working link you can show? |
| 14:36 |
|
hdl |
http://o15.bureau.paulpoulain.[…]c-tags_subject.pl |
| 14:36 |
|
nengard |
kados - in my system the OpacBrowser is set to OFF - why did the link show up at all? |
| 14:36 |
|
hdl |
for tag could |
| 14:37 |
|
kados |
nengard: good question! |
| 14:37 |
|
nengard |
glad you thinkn so :) |
| 14:39 |
|
kados |
hdl: most of the links I click on don't work in that example |
| 14:39 |
|
kados |
hdl: http://o15.bureau.paulpoulain.[…]ct.pl?number=1000 |
| 14:39 |
|
kados |
hdl: the largest ones in fact |
| 14:40 |
|
hdl |
maybe zebra is not running there. |
| 14:46 |
|
hdl |
nengard: According to what I see in opac-main.tmpl there is no reason why Browser would apper if opacBrowser is set to OFF. |
| 14:47 |
|
nengard |
hdl: I see these links under my search box: Advanced Search | Browse by Subject | Most Popular |
| 14:47 |
|
nengard |
and my setting for cloud and browser are set to OFF |
| 14:47 |
|
hdl |
nengard: unless there is a problem with TMPL_IF that could have been added after. |
| 14:48 |
|
hdl |
Subject is to search on authorities. |
| 14:48 |
|
hdl |
Nothing to do with OpacBrowser. |
| 14:48 |
|
kados |
nengard: you don't have authorities set up |
| 14:49 |
|
kados |
nengard: well, they are installed, but you don't have any loaded |
| 14:51 |
|
kados |
hdl: also, the "Most Popular" link is dog dog slow |
| 14:51 |
|
nengard |
kados - so opacbrowser is something different! okay!! Now - i have to load some authorities ;) how do I do that |
| 14:51 |
|
kados |
hdl: is it slow for you too? |
| 14:52 |
|
kados |
nengard: you can catalog some :-) |
| 14:52 |
|
kados |
nengard: or ... I can load some |
| 14:52 |
|
kados |
but that's a command-line operation atm |
| 14:52 |
|
nengard |
kados - i like the load idea :) it's quicker and i can write more of the manual that way :) |
| 14:52 |
|
kados |
hehe |
| 14:52 |
|
kados |
OK, I'll put it on my list |
| 14:53 |
|
nengard |
otherwise it may take me all day to catalog them :) hehe |
| 14:53 |
|
kados |
heh |
| 14:53 |
|
atz |
lol... the idea of actually cataloging as a fix |
| 14:53 |
|
atz |
i hadn't even considered it :) |
| 14:54 |
|
kados |
heh |
| 14:54 |
|
hdl |
kados : most popular link shows only search page for me : still the shelves problem. |
| 14:54 |
|
kados |
it's a real bummer that of the links that show up on the OPAC, only Advanced Search works without any admin overhead |
| 14:55 |
|
kados |
hdl: http://opacdemo.koha.org/cgi-b[…]opac-topissues.pl |
| 14:55 |
|
kados |
hdl: it works for me, but it's slow if you ahve a lot of items |
| 14:56 |
|
hdl |
I have answers in less than 2 secs. |
| 14:56 |
|
hdl |
If you find it dog dog slow, .... |
| 14:56 |
|
kados |
no, that db is only 500 records |
| 14:57 |
|
kados |
if you increase it to say, 5000, or 50,000, it gets quite slow |
| 14:57 |
|
nengard |
kados: should we have a better error page than the 500 error if people don't have authorities loaded? |
| 14:57 |
|
kados |
nengard: for manual purposes, you can try my demo |
| 14:58 |
|
kados |
http://opacdemo.koha.org |
| 14:58 |
|
kados |
nengard: the subject 'browse' (really a search) works |
| 14:58 |
|
nengard |
cool |
| 14:58 |
|
kados |
nengard: yea, there's already a bug for that one |
| 14:58 |
|
nengard |
thanks |
| 14:58 |
|
kados |
I guess it's a question of how easy do we need to make it work 'out of the box' |
| 14:58 |
|
hdl |
we could disable Subject browse when no authority is loaded. |
| 14:59 |
|
kados |
hdl: good idea ... we used to have a syspref to disable it, right? |
| 15:00 |
|
hdl |
so many things we "used to have"... time goes by.. things change. |
| 15:02 |
|
hdl |
getshelves is using userenv to get shelves. |
| 15:02 |
|
hdl |
When one is not loged at OPAC : there is a problem. |
| 15:05 |
|
fbcit |
kados: any thoughts on why after resolving a rebase conflict I am ending up with one remaining patch which has already been pushed to the main repo? |
| 15:05 |
|
hdl |
nengard: what is VALENJ ? |
| 15:06 |
|
kados |
fbcit: hmmm, I've seen that before |
| 15:06 |
|
atz |
fbcit: maybe that patch was reverted? |
| 15:06 |
|
atz |
(the simplest, most logical answer) |
| 15:06 |
|
fbcit |
actually it is only a piece of the original |
| 15:06 |
|
kados |
yea, time for a fresh clone ;-), or else track it down on #git :-) |
| 15:06 |
|
fbcit |
the real question is how to get rid of it w/o destroying hours of work |
| 15:06 |
|
kados |
ahh |
| 15:06 |
|
atz |
gitweb back up, right? |
| 15:06 |
|
kados |
you have work in there |
| 15:06 |
|
kados |
atz: correct |
| 15:07 |
|
fbcit |
to the tune of 10-15 hours maybe... :-( |
| 15:07 |
|
nengard |
hdl: meeting time for me it's a consortium for libraries in NJ |
| 15:07 |
|
atz |
when i got merges crossed or conflicting... I just copied out whatever I was working on to a backup dir |
| 15:07 |
|
kados |
fbcit: well, that stray patch shouldn't hurt anything |
| 15:07 |
|
fbcit |
atz what is gitweb backup? |
| 15:07 |
|
kados |
fbcit: it will most likely just tell me that it's already been applied |
| 15:07 |
|
atz |
fbcit: gitweb was down |
| 15:08 |
|
atz |
fbcit: now it's "back up" |
| 15:08 |
|
fbcit |
heh |
| 15:08 |
|
kados |
the whole git environment moved servers last week, but I didn't push any changes to the new env until the DNS had propogated |
| 15:09 |
|
fbcit |
kados: I'll send it to you and see |
| 15:09 |
|
fbcit |
it's really a one-liner |
| 15:09 |
|
kados |
k |
| 15:09 |
|
fbcit |
kados: you should have it |
| 15:11 |
|
fbcit |
atz: maybe I could copy the entire branch elsewhere, get a new clone, and then copy the branch back over the new clone? |
| 15:11 |
|
atz |
yeah, i never worked on that scale... |
| 15:11 |
|
atz |
at most 10 uncommitted files or so |
| 15:12 |
|
fbcit |
all changes are committed locally |
| 15:12 |
|
fbcit |
ahh |
| 15:12 |
|
fbcit |
maybe I can simply apply my patches over a new clone... |
| 15:12 |
|
kados |
fbcit: it wasn't committed on my tree |
| 15:12 |
|
kados |
fbcit: and it applied fine |
| 15:12 |
|
fbcit |
hrmm |
| 15:12 |
|
kados |
fbcit: shall I push it up? |
| 15:13 |
|
fbcit |
http://git.koha.org/cgi-bin/gi[…]2e362b116835fc02b |
| 15:13 |
|
fbcit |
seems to be there? |
| 15:13 |
|
kados |
so it does |
| 15:14 |
|
fbcit |
those patches were submitted via gmcharlt |
| 15:15 |
|
fbcit |
the line numbers in the repo diff and the patch I currently have are different |
| 15:15 |
|
kados |
fbcit: I just pushed it up again, see what happens when you rebase |
| 15:15 |
|
fbcit |
k |
| 15:16 |
|
fbcit |
fixed |
| 15:16 |
|
fbcit |
kados++ |
| 15:17 |
|
kados |
fbcit++ # for having 10 hours of work you're about to send my way :-=) |
| 15:17 |
|
fbcit |
heh |
| 15:17 |
|
fbcit |
I can forward it now, but it is not entirely finished yet |
| 15:17 |
|
atz |
so kados, you got the Amazon code up to current API? |
| 15:17 |
|
fbcit |
nothing breaks, just the new stuff doesn't work all the way |
| 15:18 |
|
kados |
hehe |
| 15:18 |
|
kados |
it's listed twice now |
| 15:18 |
|
kados |
fbcit: can you check your kohastructure.sql? |
| 15:18 |
|
kados |
fbcit: and verify that copynumber is listed twice? |
| 15:18 |
|
kados |
in the deleteditems table |
| 15:19 |
|
fbcit |
yep... |
| 15:19 |
|
fbcit |
it should only appear before the marc longblob |
| 15:20 |
|
kados |
I ahve it both before and after |
| 15:20 |
|
fbcit |
I'll send a patch to remove the second instance |
| 15:20 |
|
kados |
sweet |
| 15:22 |
|
fbcit |
see if that fixes it |
| 15:22 |
|
gmcharlt |
oops - sorry for missing that |
| 15:23 |
|
kados |
so long as no-one installed KOha from a 5-minute-ago snapshot we're OK :-) |
| 15:23 |
|
kados |
fbcit: pushed |
| 15:27 |
|
fbcit |
kados:things look fine now |
| 15:27 |
|
fbcit |
tnx for the help |
| 15:27 |
|
fbcit |
atz too |
| 15:28 |
|
fbcit |
kados: I'll forward the first part of this work later today |
| 15:28 |
|
kados |
fbcit++ |
| 15:29 |
|
gmcharlt |
welcome bchurch, bb_marblehead |
| 15:33 |
|
kados |
fbcit: any teasers on what it is? :-) |
| 15:33 |
|
fbcit |
I'm just adding the ability to generate patron cards from w/in koha |
| 15:34 |
|
kados |
oh, cool |
| 15:34 |
|
fbcit |
I'm hoping to include an option to add patron pics to the cards as well |
| 15:34 |
|
kados |
hehe |
| 15:34 |
|
kados |
fbcit: are you using the current label stuff as a starting poing? |
| 15:34 |
|
kados |
point I mean |
| 15:35 |
|
fbcit |
yes |
| 15:35 |
|
fbcit |
although there is much existing code that needs work |
| 15:36 |
|
kados |
amen there! |
| 15:36 |
|
kados |
that db design needs a complete makeover |
| 15:36 |
|
fbcit |
for now, I'm simply reusing what's there |
| 15:36 |
|
fbcit |
in the interest of time |
| 15:37 |
|
kados |
yea, IKWYM |
| 15:39 |
|
fbcit |
I want to throw out the label search stuff completely |
| 15:40 |
|
fbcit |
or maybe I should say the label-item-search stuff |
| 15:40 |
|
kados |
hehe |
| 15:40 |
|
kados |
yea, I have that on my list, a generic item search API |
| 15:41 |
|
kados |
we need it in several places |
| 15:41 |
|
fbcit |
that along with a generic patron search API |
| 15:41 |
|
kados |
labels, call number browsin |
| 15:41 |
|
fbcit |
yea, search is really the core around which Koha revolves |
| 15:44 |
|
atz |
fbcit: agreed |
| 15:45 |
|
atz |
though w/ biblios integrated, certain catalog staff might think differently |
| 15:48 |
|
kados |
heh |
| 15:48 |
|
kados |
and I'm sure circ staff would disagree too :-) |
| 15:54 |
|
atz |
kados: to confirm, you updated C4::Amazon to current API already? |
| 15:54 |
|
kados |
atz: yes |
| 15:54 |
|
kados |
atz: in 3.0, this weekend |
| 15:55 |
|
atz |
cool... that's one change we should consider back-porting |
| 15:55 |
|
kados |
atz: agreed |
| 15:55 |
|
atz |
otherwise that's all the list will talk about for a month |
| 15:55 |
|
kados |
yea |
| 15:57 |
|
kados |
well it goes something like this: replace Amazon.pm, add any other modules and back-port any api changes (shouldn't be any of those), and copy/paste the stuff in opac-detail.pl, detail.pl, opac-detail.tmpl, detail.tmpl into the rel_2_2 ones |
| 15:57 |
|
kados |
with testing maybe an hour or two task |
| 16:24 |
|
epederstuen |
I am new to using Koha but had a problem during the install where it does not look like all of the database tables were created. Is there a way to re-create the koha database structure without re-installing everything? |
| 16:52 |
|
gmcharlt |
epederstuen: are you running version 3? if so, you can drop the existing tables, then run the web installer again |
| 17:09 |
|
nengard |
hello all - on the OPAC menu for general preferences which logo is being used - and if it's both where is each on being used - there is opaclargeimage and opacsmallimage |
| 17:18 |
|
owen |
opaclargeimage is out of date. Only opacsmallimage is in use |
| 17:41 |
|
owen-away |
kados? |
| 18:10 |
|
nengard |
another pref question - for OpacPasswordChange it says: If ON, enables patron-initiated password change in OPAC (disable it when using LDAP auth)" - where do I send the user to see if they're using LDAP auth? |
| 18:10 |
|
kados |
nengard: they would have to ask their systems administrator |
| 18:11 |
|
kados |
the answer is almost universally NO |
| 18:11 |
|
nengard |
thanks kados |
| 18:11 |
|
kados |
LDAP is a remote authenitcation service, so they'd probably know if they were using it |
| 18:11 |
|
nengard |
ahhh |
| 18:11 |
|
nengard |
got it |
| 18:15 |
|
fbcit |
is there a way to have vim locate matching HTML tags? |
| 18:19 |
|
kados |
fbcit: perhaps ... I found this: |
| 18:19 |
|
kados |
http://www.linux.com/articles/62139 |
| 18:19 |
|
kados |
Close HTML and XML tags automatically |
| 18:19 |
|
kados |
not quite the same thing |
| 18:21 |
|
fbcit |
cool |
| 18:24 |
|
nengard |
hmmm - when logged in as one patron, I'm seeing purchse suggestions by other patrons in my personlized opac display - this is a bug right?? |
| 18:26 |
|
nengard |
hmmm - wait - it says I can see purchase suggestions for just me or for anyone - this might be a security issue - dont' you think - or better yet, a privacy issue |
| 18:32 |
|
kados |
nengard: there should be a syspref for that IIRC |
| 18:32 |
|
nengard |
IIRC? |
| 18:32 |
|
kados |
nengard: OPACViewOthersSuggestions |
| 18:32 |
|
nengard |
ahhh |
| 18:32 |
|
nengard |
thanks |
| 18:32 |
|
kados |
IIRC = If I Recall Correctly |
| 18:32 |
|
nengard |
I'll make sure to note that |
| 18:33 |
|
kados |
this is why profiling is so important for libraries |
| 18:33 |
|
kados |
every library has a different set of assumptions about what the defaults should be |
| 18:33 |
|
kados |
they need someone to walk tthem through the options |
| 18:34 |
|
nengard |
:) it's okay - and i totally agree |
| 18:34 |
|
owen |
Hmmm... So if OPACViewOthersSuggestions is on there should be a global nav link for Suggestions. If OPACViewOthersSuggestions is off we can leave the suggestions link in the user-specific menu. |
| 18:36 |
|
kados |
owen: yea |
| 18:37 |
|
kados |
and I guess those belong in the Acquisitions tab too |
| 18:38 |
|
kados |
so nengard ... the AnonSuggestions syspref is a classic example of the sysprefs not making sense to people |
| 18:38 |
|
kados |
it says 'Set to anonymous borrowernumber to enable Anonymous suggestions' |
| 18:39 |
|
nengard |
right- which i don't get |
| 18:39 |
|
kados |
what could be improved in that sentence to make it clear what the purpose of it is? |
| 18:39 |
|
kados |
is it unclear what an anonomous suggestion would be? |
| 18:41 |
|
nengard |
In that sentence ... Enter borrower number 'X' to allow anonymous purchace suggestions |
| 18:41 |
|
nengard |
i know what an anonymous suggestion is |
| 18:41 |
|
nengard |
i just have no idea what value to enter for the anonymous borrowernumber |
| 18:41 |
|
kados |
ahh |
| 18:41 |
|
kados |
I guess it assumes the user knows there's a field called borrowernumber |
| 18:43 |
|
nengard |
field where? a system preference field? a patron field? |
| 18:43 |
|
nengard |
that's my problem |
| 18:44 |
|
nengard |
PS my OPACViewOthersSuggestions is set to OFF - and yet I see them in my OPAC.... |
| 18:45 |
|
kados |
nengard: bug it ;-) |
| 18:45 |
|
nengard |
will do |
| 18:45 |
|
nengard |
kados: so where is that field? |
| 18:45 |
|
kados |
nengard: borrowers table |
| 18:45 |
|
nengard |
where is that field from the user's perspective? |
| 18:46 |
|
nengard |
where can they see what number to enter? |
| 18:46 |
|
kados |
yea, it used to show up, but we've hidden it I see |
| 18:47 |
|
kados |
you can see it in links |
| 18:47 |
|
kados |
like the 'details' tab has a borrowernumber=? |
| 18:47 |
|
kados |
where ? is the borrower number |
| 18:47 |
|
kados |
it should be listed in the Library use section of the patron detail page |
| 18:47 |
|
kados |
that's another bug :-) |
| 18:47 |
|
nengard |
sorry if i'm being daft - but how does that help a user setting up this feature? |
| 18:47 |
|
nengard |
OH!!! |
| 18:47 |
|
nengard |
Thanks :) |
| 18:47 |
|
nengard |
will report it |
| 18:50 |
|
owen |
nengard, I'll fix it right now |
| 18:50 |
|
owen |
kados, would you have it be labelled "borrowernumber" ? |
| 18:51 |
|
kados |
probably I'd called Patron ID |
| 18:52 |
|
kados |
too many past tenses in that sentence |
| 18:52 |
|
owen |
...and update the syspref text to match? |
| 18:52 |
|
nengard |
owen: bug #1944 |
| 18:53 |
|
nengard |
and thanks :) |
| 18:53 |
|
owen |
Good for my bug-fixing stats :) |
| 18:53 |
|
nengard |
hehe |
| 18:53 |
|
nengard |
hey i have tons of bugs you can solve if you want to up your stats ;) hehe |
| 18:53 |
|
kados |
owen: yea, that'd be ideal |
| 18:55 |
|
owen |
kados: I don't know what all needs to be changed to update the system pref. I'm going to update the bug and assign to you. |
| 18:58 |
|
nengard |
"Text to display as the link anchor in the OPAC" -- HUH? what the heck does that mean? |
| 18:58 |
|
nengard |
you guys need an English major to write these blurbs :) hehe |
| 19:00 |
|
owen |
You take what you can get...and we can't always get an English /speaker/! |
| 19:00 |
|
nengard |
i guess that's true ;) |
| 19:01 |
|
owen |
That said, I don't know what that pref is for either. |
| 19:01 |
|
nengard |
but the English is okay in that - it just doesn't make sense to me - the average person |
| 19:01 |
|
nengard |
owen: hehe - it's URLLinkText |
| 19:03 |
|
owen |
I can only find reference to that string in updatedatabase.pl. Sounds like it's out of date, or not forward-ported to 3.0 yet? |
| 19:03 |
|
owen |
A question for koha-devel I think |
| 19:04 |
|
owen |
kados, if I want to add more similar items to my catalog for testing that feature, should I be looking at LibraryThing's data? |
| 19:05 |
|
kados |
owen: you can add a warn in the script |
| 19:06 |
|
kados |
line 193 of opac-detail.pl (inside the for loop) |
| 19:06 |
|
kados |
use Data::Dumper; warn Dumper($similar_product); |
| 19:06 |
|
kados |
add that inside the loop and you should see some decent data on every page load |
| 19:07 |
|
nengard |
owen: sent to the list |
| 19:07 |
|
ryan |
URLLinkText should be the link text in the <a> tags in an 856 link. |
| 19:07 |
|
nengard |
oh!!! |
| 19:07 |
|
ryan |
it is needed for long urls which will break page layout |
| 19:07 |
|
nengard |
guess I didn't need to send the email - thanks ryan |
| 19:08 |
|
owen |
ryan, is that feature implemented? |
| 19:08 |
|
nengard |
good catalogers should enter a subfield 3 to solve that problem - but good idea :) |
| 19:08 |
|
owen |
kados: is that only Amazon's similar items data? |
| 19:08 |
|
ryan |
owen, i thought it was |
| 19:08 |
|
kados |
owen: yea |
| 19:09 |
|
owen |
Kados: I'm still getting similar and editions mixed up, sorry |
| 19:09 |
|
kados |
nengard: but not all of them do enter the subfield 3 |
| 19:09 |
|
kados |
owen: :-) |
| 19:09 |
|
kados |
owen: yea, theya re actually very different |
| 19:09 |
|
nengard |
kados - i always did :) hehe |
| 19:09 |
|
nengard |
and that's why i said it was a good idea to have that field - because so many don't |
| 19:09 |
|
kados |
owen: similar items is more 'related' whereas editions is 'other versions of the same thing' |
| 19:10 |
|
kados |
nengard: *nod* |
| 19:10 |
|
owen |
kados: I understand the difference as long as I'm paying attention |
| 19:11 |
|
ryan |
owen: looks like it was unimplemented |
| 19:11 |
|
kados |
owen: they were introduced at nearly the same time, so I can see why you'd get them conflated ... especially since they're both kinda hard to test without good data :-) |
| 19:12 |
|
nengard |
kados and ryan if subfield 3 is entered will that preference override it? |
| 19:13 |
|
ryan |
nengard: no, the syspref should only appear if there's no subf 3 |
| 19:13 |
|
ryan |
and if it's not a TOC |
| 19:13 |
|
nengard |
rayn - awesome! |
| 19:13 |
|
nengard |
ryan i should say |
| 19:13 |
|
kados |
ryan: so we need to forward-port that from dev_week? |
| 19:14 |
|
nengard |
owen: i'm not sure it's in 3.0 cause my full URL is showing here: http://opac-nce.dev.kohalibrar[…]?biblionumber=721 |
| 19:15 |
|
nengard |
kados is that a bug? |
| 19:15 |
|
kados |
nengard: it's an item that needs to be done, so yea, I'd say so |
| 19:15 |
|
ryan |
nengard: yes, it seems to be missing |
| 19:16 |
|
nengard |
thanks guys |
| 19:19 |
|
nengard |
bug #1945 submitted - taking off now - ttyl |
| 19:27 |
|
owen |
I'm not seeing anything listed on admin/z3950servers.pl |
| 19:28 |
|
owen |
z3950servers.pl: DBD::mysql::st fetchrow_hashref failed: fetch() without execute() at /home/oleonard/koha/production/intranet/cgi-bin/admin/z3950servers.pl line 37. |
| 19:30 |
|
owen |
Hm, I guess that's bug 1789. |
| 19:30 |
|
kados |
huh, that's weird |
| 19:31 |
|
fbcit |
owen: works fine here |
| 19:31 |
|
owen |
fbcit, are you able to add a new z39.50 server? |
| 19:31 |
|
kados |
works for me too |
| 19:32 |
|
fbcit |
owen: yes |
| 19:32 |
|
owen |
Weird, could it be a problem with my database? |
| 19:34 |
|
fbcit |
perhaps if there are no z3950 servers loaded in your db to start with?? |
| 19:35 |
|
owen |
There are |
| 19:36 |
|
kados |
anyone wanna test webhuddle with me? |
| 19:36 |
|
owen |
Whassat? |
| 19:36 |
|
kados |
it's an oss webinar thingy |
| 19:36 |
|
fbcit |
owen: it looks like it has to do with a template param 'searchfield' |
| 19:36 |
|
kados |
owen: https://www.webhuddle.com/j.do[…]0948c03&mID=26876 |
| 19:36 |
|
kados |
owen: let me know if you can see my screen |
| 19:37 |
|
fbcit |
hehe |
| 19:37 |
|
kados |
or anyone really |
| 19:37 |
|
fbcit |
cool |
| 19:37 |
|
kados |
does it work? |
| 19:37 |
|
kados |
hehe |
| 19:37 |
|
kados |
cool |
| 19:38 |
|
kados |
owen: making you moderator |
| 19:38 |
|
kados |
yea, this is soo easy to use |
| 19:38 |
|
kados |
compared to say, webex |
| 19:39 |
|
owen |
Are y'all seeing my desktop now? |
| 19:39 |
|
kados |
cool, I can see owen's screen :-0 |
| 19:39 |
|
fbcit |
windows |
| 19:39 |
|
owen |
Exciting. |
| 19:39 |
|
kados |
hehe |
| 19:39 |
|
kados |
very cool |
| 19:40 |
|
kados |
I think it's OSS too |
| 19:40 |
|
kados |
yea, it's on sourceforge |
| 23:29 |
|
atz |
why is the ISBN returned by C4::Search actually an a contaminated string |
| 23:29 |
|
atz |
? |
| 23:29 |
|
atz |
like: 0807737143 (cloth : alk. paper) | 0807737135 (pbk. : alk. paper) |
| 23:31 |
|
atz |
i guess b/c it is expected to be displayed, and not used... and hit maps to potentially many ISBNs |
| 00:15 |
|
kados |
atz: yea that's the problem with AACR2 |
| 00:16 |
|
kados |
atz: galen was gonna work on a generic C4::Normalize |
| 00:17 |
|
kados |
atz: but other priorities have crept in :-) |
| 00:17 |
|
atz |
yeah, i hacked out a regexp to recognize the first isbn in the string, but that's sooo chintzy |
| 00:26 |
|
atz |
i see in the rather near future that we will be using js to get image, because we can fail over (and over) w/o doing any connections w/ the server |
| 00:27 |
|
atz |
so we can start w/ the amazon image, fail to google image, optionally fail back to B&T, syndetics, etc. |
| 00:27 |
|
kados |
yea |
| 00:27 |
|
kados |
you working on google image? |
| 00:28 |
|
kados |
the long-term failover if there's no available image is a css overlay on a generic book image |
| 00:28 |
|
kados |
css over lay of the title :-) |
| 00:28 |
|
atz |
not yet, but I have made myself conversant on the backend code... some ppl on list have already implemented google as a substitute for amazon |
| 00:28 |
|
kados |
on ablank book image |
| 00:29 |
|
atz |
but i'm looking at potentially multiple sources per image |
| 00:29 |
|
atz |
yeah, the CSS move would be nice |
| 00:29 |
|
atz |
not everything will have images |
| 00:30 |
|
atz |
ok, got B&T on hit list and detail |
| 00:35 |
|
kados |
sweet |
| 00:35 |
|
kados |
got a link? |
| 00:36 |
|
atz |
http://atz.dev.kohalibrary.com[…]murder&limit=MAIN |
| 00:36 |
|
kados |
oh, tagging too, eh? |
| 00:37 |
|
atz |
indeed... not 100% yet, but most of the front and back end are there |
| 00:37 |
|
atz |
need to dress it up w/ some jquery xhtml, so you don't have to even leave the page |
| 00:38 |
|
atz |
i think I'll set up the sysprefs to default TagInputOnList=OFF |
| 00:39 |
|
atz |
just to keep it clean |
| 00:39 |
|
atz |
TagInputOnDetail=On |
| 00:40 |
|
kados |
cool |
| 00:41 |
|
atz |
the other complexity will be building the moderation interface on the staff side |
| 00:41 |
|
atz |
I should say that I'm using Lingua::Ispell (optionally, but preferred) |
| 00:42 |
|
atz |
as a built-in whitelist |
| 00:43 |
|
atz |
a level of polish would be to have one of you zebra pros index the tags and make them searchable that way |
| 00:44 |
|
kados |
cool |
| 00:44 |
|
kados |
yea, that'd be pretty trivial I think |
| 00:46 |
|
kados |
atz: got a sec for a Vshelves uestion? |
| 00:46 |
|
kados |
question I mean |
| 00:47 |
|
atz |
sure |
| 00:47 |
|
kados |
I'm trying to figure out how to add the imageurl variable to opac-shelves.pl |
| 00:47 |
|
atz |
zebra stuff might be easy... once you know how. |
| 00:47 |
|
kados |
the new convention is: |
| 00:47 |
|
kados |
<img src="<!-- TMPL_VAR NAME="imageurl" -->" alt="<!-- TMPL_VAR NAME="description" -->" title="<!-- TMPL_VAR NAME="description" -->" /> |
| 00:47 |
|
kados |
instead of linking to a specific .git |
| 00:47 |
|
kados |
gif I mean |
| 00:47 |
|
kados |
:-) |
| 00:48 |
|
kados |
but I don't see how that list is being created |
| 00:48 |
|
kados |
it looks like opac-shelves.pl is mostly a placeholder |
| 00:48 |
|
kados |
whith the heavy lifting being done in the modules |
| 00:48 |
|
atz |
ah yes.. |
| 00:48 |
|
atz |
C4::VirtualShelves/Page.pm |
| 00:48 |
|
atz |
C4/VirtualShelves/Page.pm |
| 00:48 |
|
kados |
yep |
| 00:49 |
|
kados |
but I don't even see a call to GetBiblio or anything |
| 00:49 |
|
kados |
or is it GetBibliofromItemNumber |
| 00:49 |
|
kados |
is vshelves a list of items or biblios? |
| 00:49 |
|
atz |
yeah, GetBiblioFromItemNumber |
| 00:49 |
|
kados |
(I guess it should be both long-term, depending on it's purpose) |
| 00:50 |
|
kados |
(if we use this sas the general purpose container for bulk updates, etc) |
| 00:50 |
|
atz |
vshelves is biblios, never items |
| 00:50 |
|
kados |
k |
| 00:50 |
|
kados |
so where would I add imageurl? |
| 00:50 |
|
kados |
should it just go in GetBibliofromItemNumber |
| 00:51 |
|
kados |
and if it's a list of biblios, why do we have an itemnumber? |
| 00:53 |
|
atz |
on the staff side, librarians expect to make the list by scanning books |
| 00:53 |
|
atz |
in addition to searching |
| 00:53 |
|
atz |
so that's why you have a barcode |
| 00:54 |
|
kados |
*nod* |
| 00:54 |
|
kados |
ok, so any thoughts on where best to insert this imageurl? |
| 00:55 |
|
atz |
not really |
| 00:55 |
|
atz |
i'm not sure where it comes from in all cases |
| 00:55 |
|
atz |
does it map at the biblio level, bilioitems level? |
| 00:56 |
|
atz |
w/ some syspref about what (local or remote) directory the gifs are supposed to live in? |
| 00:56 |
|
kados |
in this case it's biblioitems level |
| 00:56 |
|
kados |
yea, don't worry about where imageurl is built from, that part's done, I just need to know where in Vshelves code I can insert it into biblioitems hash |
| 00:58 |
|
atz |
GetShelfContents, probably |
| 00:58 |
|
atz |
(or just after that call, line 141) |
| 00:58 |
|
atz |
in Page.pm |
| 00:59 |
|
atz |
since this is really an aspect of the page, and not the back end, Page.pm makes the most sense |
| 00:59 |
|
atz |
and will affect both opac and intranet there |
| 01:00 |
|
kados |
cool |
| 01:00 |
|
kados |
Ill inspect $items to see the format |
| 01:05 |
|
kados |
cool, that worked, thanks |
| 01:15 |
|
kados |
atz: any comment on bug 1873? |
| 01:41 |
|
atz |
kados: this appears to a problem with the DB constraint definition |
| 01:42 |
|
atz |
the field dateadded is of type=timestamp |
| 01:42 |
|
atz |
but it isn't updating |
| 01:48 |
|
ryan |
/Users/ryan/Library/Application\ Support/xPad/Temp/ISLC\ Reinstall.txt |
| 01:48 |
|
ryan |
oops |
| 01:48 |
|
ryan |
C-c C-v error |
| 01:53 |
|
atz |
kados: updated bug |
| 01:56 |
|
atz |
updated updated... heh |
