Time  Nick        Message
12:02 gmcharlt    greetings #koha
12:34 kados       g'morning owen, ccatalfo
12:34 owen        Hi
12:35 owen        Thanks for the help with the issuing rules, kados
12:35 kados       np, sorry I didn't get to it sooner
12:35 owen        we don't have any method in 3.0 for showing circ limits, do we?
12:36 owen        Obviously there needs to be a more flexible way to set it up
12:37 ccatalfo    morning #koha
12:40 kados       owen: you mean to display on the circ page on the staff client like NPL has?
12:40 hdl         hi #koha
12:40 kados       yea, we don't have that in 3.0, it's an easy add, but we do need it to be more flexible
12:40 kados       hey hdl
12:40 owen        Yeah. I know NPL is going to want to have that in 3.0, but as we found out, they don't want /all/ item types displayed
12:40 kados       *nod*
12:59 kados       yay
13:00 hdl         congrats kados
13:00 hdl         (I've just seen Movers & shakers)
13:08 hdl         kados : some person have problems entering items with no barcode because barcode is NOT NULL + there is an index. Is there a way to allow this ?
13:08 kados       hdl: why is barcode NOT NULL?
13:11 hdl         kados : I checked kohastructure.pl and it can be NULL.
13:11 hdl         OK.
13:12 kados       hdl: maybe a prob with updatedatabase?
13:12 hdl         well may be.
14:01 gmcharlt    hi everybody, I'd like to introduce a new LibLimer
14:01 gmcharlt    acmoore is Andrew Moore, our newest developer
14:01 acmoore     Hi all!
14:01 acmoore     Thanks, Galen.
14:02 owen        Hi Andrew, welcome
14:02 owen        kados, is the AmazonAssocTag preference still required?
14:03 kados       owen: yes, i think so
14:03 kados       acmoore: welcome!
14:05 kados       owen: it's possible they don't require it in ESC 4.0, I haven't tested
14:06 owen        Doesn't look like it's necessary
14:16 nengard     owen & kados - does this mean i should remove the note i had in the manual saying it was required?
14:16 kados       nengard: yea, I'd say it's optional I guess
14:17 kados       it used to be mandatory :-)
14:17 nengard     okey dokey - will do kados
14:19 kados       hdl: just noticed that the online help only works in firefox, not safari or IE
14:19 hdl         hi acmoore
14:20 kados       hdl: are you experiencing the same thing?
14:20 hdl         I donot have any safari or IE to test.
14:21 hdl         But that seems strange.
14:21 kados       any other browsers?
14:21 hdl         Is this because of window name ?
14:21 hdl         Opera
14:21 kados       very strange
14:23 atz         possibly because the perl script that responds sends unclean headers, then redirect
14:24 atz         that is very strange... I'll try to test that w/ IE in VM
14:24 hdl         online help works in Opera.
14:27 fbcit       g'morning all
14:28 nengard     hdl: i'm writing the manual and have a question about the opac cloud
14:28 nengard     do i need my system to re-idnex for the opac cloud to work? if not, then it's not working - and i have another bug to report :(
14:28 kados       hey fbcit
14:28 kados       nengard: there might already be a bug for that one
14:28 nengard     kados: i'll search
14:29 owen        I can confirm online help isn't working with IE6
14:29 kados       it should probably be OFF by default, as it's an 'experimental' feature
14:31 nengard     kados: shouldn't we have something like that display in the preference so people know that it's experimental? I'll note it as such in the manual
14:33 kados       yea, we should
14:33 kados       ooh, nengard, looks like you just threw a 500 error
14:33 nengard     yes
14:33 kados       nengard: how'd you manage that?
14:33 hdl         yes.
14:33 nengard     was about to put a bug in for it
14:33 nengard     hehe
14:34 nengard     clicked on browse by subject and clicked submit
14:34 kados       ahh, yea, that'd do it
14:34 kados       browse by subject and subject cloud don't work
14:34 nengard     hdl & kados the note has been added to the manual
14:34 kados       they're experimental :-)
14:34 nengard     kados: i'll add a note about that too
14:34 kados       I'll disable them by default
14:35 hdl         nengard: one has to launch buildopaccloud before it can be used.
14:35 kados       hdl: do you have a working link you can show?
14:36 hdl         http://o15.bureau.paulpoulain.com/cgi-bin/koha/opac-tags_subject.pl
14:36 nengard     kados - in my system the OpacBrowser is set to OFF - why did the link show up at all?
14:36 hdl         for tag could
14:37 kados       nengard: good question!
14:37 nengard     glad you thinkn so :)
14:39 kados       hdl: most of the links I click on don't work in that example
14:39 kados       hdl: http://o15.bureau.paulpoulain.com/cgi-bin/koha/opac-tags_subject.pl?number=1000
14:39 kados       hdl: the largest ones in fact
14:40 hdl         maybe zebra is not running there.
14:46 hdl         nengard: According to what I see in opac-main.tmpl there is no reason why Browser would apper if opacBrowser is set to OFF.
14:47 nengard     hdl: I see these links under my search box:  Advanced Search | Browse by Subject | Most Popular
14:47 nengard     and my setting for cloud and browser are set to OFF
14:47 hdl         nengard: unless there is a problem with TMPL_IF that could have been added after.
14:48 hdl         Subject is to search on authorities.
14:48 hdl         Nothing to do with OpacBrowser.
14:48 kados       nengard: you don't have authorities set up
14:49 kados       nengard: well, they are installed, but you don't have any loaded
14:51 kados       hdl: also, the "Most Popular" link is dog dog slow
14:51 nengard     kados - so opacbrowser is something different! okay!!  Now - i have to load some authorities ;) how do I do that
14:51 kados       hdl: is it slow for you too?
14:52 kados       nengard: you can catalog some :-)
14:52 kados       nengard: or ... I can load some
14:52 kados       but that's a command-line operation atm
14:52 nengard     kados - i like the load idea :) it's quicker and i can write more of the manual that way :)
14:52 kados       hehe
14:52 kados       OK, I'll put it on my list
14:53 nengard     otherwise it may take me all day to catalog them :) hehe
14:53 kados       heh
14:53 atz         lol... the idea of actually cataloging as a fix
14:53 atz         i hadn't even considered it  :)
14:54 kados       heh
14:54 hdl         kados : most popular link shows only search page for me : still the shelves problem.
14:54 kados       it's a real bummer that of the links that show up on the OPAC, only Advanced Search works without any admin overhead
14:55 kados       hdl: http://opacdemo.koha.org/cgi-bin/koha/opac-topissues.pl
14:55 kados       hdl: it works for me, but it's slow if you ahve a lot of items
14:56 hdl         I have answers in less than 2 secs.
14:56 hdl         If you find it dog dog slow, ....
14:56 kados       no, that db is only 500 records
14:57 kados       if you increase it to say, 5000, or 50,000, it gets quite slow
14:57 nengard     kados: should we have a better error page than the 500 error if people don't have authorities loaded?
14:57 kados       nengard: for manual purposes, you can try my demo
14:58 kados       http://opacdemo.koha.org
14:58 kados       nengard: the subject 'browse' (really a search) works
14:58 nengard     cool
14:58 kados       nengard: yea, there's already a bug for that one
14:58 nengard     thanks
14:58 kados       I guess it's a question of how easy do we need to make it work 'out of the box'
14:58 hdl         we could disable Subject browse when no authority is loaded.
14:59 kados       hdl: good idea ... we used to have a syspref to disable it, right?
15:00 hdl         so many things we "used to have"... time goes by.. things change.
15:02 hdl         getshelves is using userenv to get shelves.
15:02 hdl         When one is not loged at OPAC : there is a problem.
15:05 fbcit       kados: any thoughts on why after resolving a rebase conflict I am ending up with one remaining patch which has already been pushed to the main repo?
15:05 hdl         nengard: what is VALENJ ?
15:06 kados       fbcit: hmmm, I've seen that before
15:06 atz         fbcit: maybe that patch was reverted?
15:06 atz         (the simplest, most logical answer)
15:06 fbcit       actually it is only a piece of the original
15:06 kados       yea, time for a fresh clone ;-), or else track it down on #git :-)
15:06 fbcit       the real question is how to get rid of it w/o destroying hours of work
15:06 kados       ahh
15:06 atz         gitweb back up, right?
15:06 kados       you have work in there
15:06 kados       atz: correct
15:07 fbcit       to the tune of 10-15 hours maybe... :-(
15:07 nengard     hdl: meeting time for me it's a consortium for libraries in NJ
15:07 atz         when i got merges crossed or conflicting... I just copied out whatever I was working on to a backup dir
15:07 kados       fbcit: well, that stray patch shouldn't hurt anything
15:07 fbcit       atz what is gitweb backup?
15:07 kados       fbcit: it will most likely just tell me that it's already been applied
15:07 atz         fbcit: gitweb was down
15:08 atz         fbcit: now it's "back up"
15:08 fbcit       heh
15:08 kados       the whole git environment moved servers last week, but I didn't push any changes to the new env until the DNS had propogated
15:09 fbcit       kados: I'll send it to you and see
15:09 fbcit       it's really a one-liner
15:09 kados       k
15:09 fbcit       kados: you should have it
15:11 fbcit       atz: maybe I could copy the entire branch elsewhere, get a new clone, and then copy the branch back over the new clone?
15:11 atz         yeah, i never worked on that scale...
15:11 atz         at most 10 uncommitted files or so
15:12 fbcit       all changes are committed locally
15:12 fbcit       ahh
15:12 fbcit       maybe I can simply apply my patches over a new clone...
15:12 kados       fbcit: it wasn't committed on my tree
15:12 kados       fbcit: and it applied fine
15:12 fbcit       hrmm
15:12 kados       fbcit: shall I push it up?
15:13 fbcit       http://git.koha.org/cgi-bin/gitweb.cgi?p=Koha;a=blobdiff;f=installer/data/mysql/kohastructure.sql;h=aff3c6c5eabe7dd8a9a9c22fce04ceb92f0ad111;hp=788bd913e1dfcec23809c3e49eeedea972a562ac;hb=471dbfe7fe808004f3c98ad8587870a7180567be;hpb=9222f7a6ca80d2a74cf09872e362b116835fc02b
15:13 fbcit       seems to be there?
15:13 kados       so it does
15:14 fbcit       those patches were submitted via gmcharlt
15:15 fbcit       the line numbers in the repo diff and the patch I currently have are different
15:15 kados       fbcit: I just pushed it up again, see what happens when you rebase
15:15 fbcit       k
15:16 fbcit       fixed
15:16 fbcit       kados++
15:17 kados       fbcit++ # for having 10 hours of work you're about to send my way :-=)
15:17 fbcit       heh
15:17 fbcit       I can forward it now, but it is not entirely finished yet
15:17 atz         so kados, you got the Amazon code up to current API?
15:17 fbcit       nothing breaks, just the new stuff doesn't work all the way
15:18 kados       hehe
15:18 kados       it's listed twice now
15:18 kados       fbcit: can you check your kohastructure.sql?
15:18 kados       fbcit: and verify that copynumber is listed twice?
15:18 kados       in the deleteditems table
15:19 fbcit       yep...
15:19 fbcit       it should only appear before the marc longblob
15:20 kados       I ahve it both before and after
15:20 fbcit       I'll send a patch to remove the second instance
15:20 kados       sweet
15:22 fbcit       see if that fixes it
15:22 gmcharlt    oops - sorry for missing that
15:23 kados       so long as no-one installed KOha from a 5-minute-ago snapshot we're OK :-)
15:23 kados       fbcit: pushed
15:27 fbcit       kados:things look fine now
15:27 fbcit       tnx for the help
15:27 fbcit       atz too
15:28 fbcit       kados: I'll forward the first part of this work later today
15:28 kados       fbcit++
15:29 gmcharlt    welcome bchurch, bb_marblehead
15:33 kados       fbcit: any teasers on what it is? :-)
15:33 fbcit       I'm just adding the ability to generate patron cards from w/in koha
15:34 kados       oh, cool
15:34 fbcit       I'm hoping to include an option to add patron pics to the cards as well
15:34 kados       hehe
15:34 kados       fbcit: are you using the current label stuff as a starting poing?
15:34 kados       point I mean
15:35 fbcit       yes
15:35 fbcit       although there is much existing code that needs work
15:36 kados       amen there!
15:36 kados       that db design needs a complete makeover
15:36 fbcit       for now, I'm simply reusing what's there
15:36 fbcit       in the interest of time
15:37 kados       yea, IKWYM
15:39 fbcit       I want to throw out the label search stuff completely
15:40 fbcit       or maybe I should say the label-item-search stuff
15:40 kados       hehe
15:40 kados       yea, I have that on my list, a generic item search API
15:41 kados       we need it in several places
15:41 fbcit       that along with a generic patron search API
15:41 kados       labels, call number browsin
15:41 fbcit       yea, search is really the core around which Koha revolves
15:44 atz         fbcit: agreed
15:45 atz         though w/ biblios integrated, certain catalog staff might think differently
15:48 kados       heh
15:48 kados       and I'm sure circ staff would disagree too :-)
15:54 atz         kados: to confirm, you updated C4::Amazon to current API already?
15:54 kados       atz: yes
15:54 kados       atz: in 3.0, this weekend
15:55 atz         cool... that's one change we should consider back-porting
15:55 kados       atz: agreed
15:55 atz         otherwise that's all the list will talk about for a month
15:55 kados       yea
15:57 kados       well it goes something like this: replace Amazon.pm, add any other modules and back-port any api changes (shouldn't be any of those), and copy/paste the stuff in opac-detail.pl, detail.pl, opac-detail.tmpl, detail.tmpl into the rel_2_2 ones
15:57 kados       with testing maybe an hour or two task
16:24 epederstuen I am new to using Koha but had a problem during the install where it does not look like all of the database tables were created.  Is there a way to re-create the koha database structure without re-installing everything?
16:52 gmcharlt    epederstuen: are you running version 3? if so, you can drop the existing tables, then run the web installer again
17:09 nengard     hello all - on the OPAC menu for general preferences which logo is being used - and if it's both where is each on being used - there is opaclargeimage and opacsmallimage
17:18 owen        opaclargeimage is out of date. Only opacsmallimage is in use
17:41 owen-away   kados?
18:10 nengard     another pref question - for OpacPasswordChange it says: If ON, enables patron-initiated password change in OPAC (disable it when using LDAP auth)" - where do I send the user to see if they're using LDAP auth?
18:10 kados       nengard: they would have to ask their systems administrator
18:11 kados       the answer is almost universally NO
18:11 nengard     thanks kados
18:11 kados       LDAP is a remote authenitcation service, so they'd probably know if they were using it
18:11 nengard     ahhh
18:11 nengard     got it
18:15 fbcit       is there a way to have vim locate matching HTML tags?
18:19 kados       fbcit: perhaps ... I found this:
18:19 kados       http://www.linux.com/articles/62139
18:19 kados       Close HTML and XML tags automatically
18:19 kados       not quite the same thing
18:21 fbcit       cool
18:24 nengard     hmmm - when logged in as one patron, I'm seeing purchse suggestions by other patrons in my personlized opac display - this is a bug right??
18:26 nengard     hmmm - wait - it says I can see purchase suggestions for just me or for anyone -  this might be a security issue - dont' you think - or better yet, a privacy issue
18:32 kados       nengard: there should be a syspref for that IIRC
18:32 nengard     IIRC?
18:32 kados       nengard: OPACViewOthersSuggestions
18:32 nengard     ahhh
18:32 nengard     thanks
18:32 kados       IIRC = If I Recall Correctly
18:32 nengard     I'll make sure to note that
18:33 kados       this is why profiling is so important for libraries
18:33 kados       every library has a different set of assumptions about what the defaults should be
18:33 kados       they need someone to walk tthem through the options
18:34 nengard     :) it's okay - and i totally agree
18:34 owen        Hmmm... So if OPACViewOthersSuggestions is on there should be a global nav link for Suggestions. If OPACViewOthersSuggestions is off we can leave the suggestions link in the user-specific menu.
18:36 kados       owen: yea
18:37 kados       and I guess those belong in the Acquisitions tab too
18:38 kados       so nengard  ... the AnonSuggestions syspref is a classic example of the sysprefs not making sense to people
18:38 kados       it says 'Set to anonymous borrowernumber to enable Anonymous suggestions'
18:39 nengard     right- which i don't get
18:39 kados       what could be improved in that sentence to make it clear what the purpose of it is?
18:39 kados       is it unclear what an anonomous suggestion would be?
18:41 nengard     In that sentence ... Enter borrower number 'X' to allow anonymous purchace suggestions
18:41 nengard     i know what an anonymous suggestion is
18:41 nengard     i just have no idea what value to enter for the anonymous borrowernumber
18:41 kados       ahh
18:41 kados       I guess it assumes the user knows there's a field called borrowernumber
18:43 nengard     field where? a system preference field? a patron field?
18:43 nengard     that's my problem
18:44 nengard     PS my OPACViewOthersSuggestions is set to OFF - and yet I see them in my OPAC....
18:45 kados       nengard: bug it ;-)
18:45 nengard     will do
18:45 nengard     kados: so where is that field?
18:45 kados       nengard: borrowers table
18:45 nengard     where is that field from the user's perspective?
18:46 nengard     where can they see what number to enter?
18:46 kados       yea, it used to show up, but we've hidden it I see
18:47 kados       you can see it in links
18:47 kados       like the 'details' tab has a borrowernumber=?
18:47 kados       where ? is the borrower number
18:47 kados       it should be listed in the Library use section of the patron detail page
18:47 kados       that's another bug :-)
18:47 nengard     sorry if i'm being daft - but how does that help a user setting up this feature?
18:47 nengard     OH!!!
18:47 nengard     Thanks :)
18:47 nengard     will report it
18:50 owen        nengard, I'll fix it right now
18:50 owen        kados, would you have it be labelled "borrowernumber" ?
18:51 kados       probably I'd called Patron ID
18:52 kados       too many past tenses in that sentence
18:52 owen        ...and update the syspref text to match?
18:52 nengard     owen: bug #1944
18:53 nengard     and thanks :)
18:53 owen        Good for my bug-fixing stats :)
18:53 nengard     hehe
18:53 nengard     hey i have tons of bugs you can solve if you want to up your stats ;) hehe
18:53 kados       owen: yea, that'd be ideal
18:55 owen        kados: I don't know what all needs to be changed to update the system pref. I'm going to update the bug and assign to you.
18:58 nengard     "Text to display as the link anchor in the OPAC" -- HUH?  what the heck does that mean?
18:58 nengard     you guys need an English major to write these blurbs :) hehe
19:00 owen        You take what you can get...and we can't always get an English /speaker/!
19:00 nengard     i guess that's true ;)
19:01 owen        That said, I don't know what that pref is for either.
19:01 nengard     but the English is okay in that - it just doesn't make sense to me - the average person
19:01 nengard     owen: hehe - it's URLLinkText
19:03 owen        I can only find reference to that string in updatedatabase.pl. Sounds like it's out of date, or not forward-ported to 3.0 yet?
19:03 owen        A question for koha-devel I think
19:04 owen        kados, if I want to add more similar items to my catalog for testing that feature, should I be looking at LibraryThing's data?
19:05 kados       owen: you can add a warn in the script
19:06 kados       line 193 of opac-detail.pl (inside the for loop)
19:06 kados       use Data::Dumper; warn Dumper($similar_product);
19:06 kados       add that inside the loop and you should see some decent data on every page load
19:07 nengard     owen: sent to the list
19:07 ryan        URLLinkText should be the link text in the <a> tags in an 856 link.
19:07 nengard     oh!!!
19:07 ryan        it is needed for long urls which will break page layout
19:07 nengard     guess I didn't need to send the email - thanks ryan
19:08 owen        ryan, is that feature implemented?
19:08 nengard     good catalogers should enter a subfield 3 to solve that problem - but good idea :)
19:08 owen        kados: is that only Amazon's similar items data?
19:08 ryan        owen, i thought it was
19:08 kados       owen: yea
19:09 owen        Kados: I'm still getting similar and editions mixed up, sorry
19:09 kados       nengard: but not all of them do enter the subfield 3
19:09 kados       owen: :-)
19:09 kados       owen: yea, theya re actually very different
19:09 nengard     kados - i always did :) hehe
19:09 nengard     and that's why i said it was a good idea to have that field - because so many don't
19:09 kados       owen: similar items is more 'related' whereas editions is 'other versions of the same thing'
19:10 kados       nengard: *nod*
19:10 owen        kados: I understand the difference as long as I'm paying attention
19:11 ryan        owen: looks like it was unimplemented
19:11 kados       owen: they were introduced at nearly the same time, so I can see why you'd get them conflated ... especially since they're both kinda hard to test without good data :-)
19:12 nengard     kados and ryan if subfield 3 is entered will that preference override it?
19:13 ryan        nengard: no, the syspref should only appear if there's no subf 3
19:13 ryan        and if it's not a TOC
19:13 nengard     rayn - awesome!
19:13 nengard     ryan i should say
19:13 kados       ryan: so we need to forward-port that from dev_week?
19:14 nengard     owen: i'm not sure it's in 3.0 cause my full URL is showing here: http://opac-nce.dev.kohalibrary.com/cgi-bin/koha/opac-detail.pl?biblionumber=721
19:15 nengard     kados is that a bug?
19:15 kados       nengard: it's an item that needs to be done, so yea, I'd say so
19:15 ryan        nengard: yes, it seems to be missing
19:16 nengard     thanks guys
19:19 nengard     bug #1945 submitted - taking off now - ttyl
19:27 owen        I'm not seeing anything listed on admin/z3950servers.pl
19:28 owen        z3950servers.pl: DBD::mysql::st fetchrow_hashref failed: fetch() without execute() at /home/oleonard/koha/production/intranet/cgi-bin/admin/z3950servers.pl line 37.
19:30 owen        Hm, I guess that's bug 1789.
19:30 kados       huh, that's weird
19:31 fbcit       owen: works fine here
19:31 owen        fbcit, are you able to add a new z39.50 server?
19:31 kados       works for me too
19:32 fbcit       owen: yes
19:32 owen        Weird, could it be a problem with my database?
19:34 fbcit       perhaps if there are no z3950 servers loaded in your db to start with??
19:35 owen        There are
19:36 kados       anyone wanna test webhuddle with me?
19:36 owen        Whassat?
19:36 kados       it's an oss webinar thingy
19:36 fbcit       owen: it looks like it has to do with a template param 'searchfield'
19:36 kados       owen: https://www.webhuddle.com/j.do?key=bdf0b7ab7f00000101621e1c20948c03&mID=26876
19:36 kados       owen: let me know if you can see my screen
19:37 fbcit       hehe
19:37 kados        or anyone really
19:37 fbcit       cool
19:37 kados       does it work?
19:37 kados       hehe
19:37 kados       cool
19:38 kados       owen: making you moderator
19:38 kados       yea, this is soo easy to use
19:38 kados       compared to say, webex
19:39 owen        Are y'all seeing my desktop now?
19:39 kados       cool, I can see owen's screen :-0
19:39 fbcit       windows
19:39 owen        Exciting.
19:39 kados       hehe
19:39 kados       very cool
19:40 kados       I think it's OSS too
19:40 kados       yea, it's on sourceforge
23:29 atz         why is the ISBN returned by C4::Search actually an a contaminated string
23:29 atz         ?
23:29 atz         like: 0807737143 (cloth : alk. paper) | 0807737135 (pbk. : alk. paper)
23:31 atz         i guess b/c it is expected to be displayed, and not used... and hit maps to potentially many ISBNs
00:15 kados       atz: yea that's the problem with AACR2
00:16 kados       atz:  galen was gonna work on a generic C4::Normalize
00:17 kados       atz: but other priorities have crept in :-)
00:17 atz         yeah, i hacked out a regexp to recognize the first isbn in the string, but that's sooo chintzy
00:26 atz         i see in the rather near future that we will be using js to get image, because we can fail over (and over) w/o doing any connections w/ the server
00:27 atz         so we can start w/ the amazon image, fail to google image, optionally fail back to B&T, syndetics, etc.
00:27 kados       yea
00:27 kados       you working on google image?
00:28 kados       the long-term failover if there's no available image is a css overlay on a generic book image
00:28 kados       css over lay of the title :-)
00:28 atz         not yet, but I have made myself conversant on the backend code... some ppl on list have already implemented google as a substitute for amazon
00:28 kados       on ablank book image
00:29 atz         but i'm looking at potentially multiple sources per image
00:29 atz         yeah, the CSS move would be nice
00:29 atz         not everything will have images
00:30 atz         ok, got B&T on hit list and detail
00:35 kados       sweet
00:35 kados       got a link?
00:36 atz         http://atz.dev.kohalibrary.com/cgi-bin/koha/opac-search.pl?q=murder&limit=MAIN
00:36 kados       oh, tagging too, eh?
00:37 atz         indeed... not 100% yet, but most of the front and back end are there
00:37 atz         need to dress it up w/ some jquery xhtml, so you don't have to even leave the page
00:38 atz         i think I'll set up the sysprefs to default  TagInputOnList=OFF
00:39 atz         just to keep it clean
00:39 atz         TagInputOnDetail=On
00:40 kados       cool
00:41 atz         the other complexity will be building the moderation interface on the staff side
00:41 atz         I should say that I'm using Lingua::Ispell (optionally, but preferred)
00:42 atz         as a built-in whitelist
00:43 atz         a level of polish would be to have one of you zebra pros index the tags and make them searchable that way
00:44 kados       cool
00:44 kados       yea, that'd be pretty trivial I think
00:46 kados       atz: got a sec for a Vshelves uestion?
00:46 kados       question I mean
00:47 atz         sure
00:47 kados       I'm trying to figure out how to add the imageurl variable to opac-shelves.pl
00:47 atz         zebra stuff might be easy... once you know how.
00:47 kados       the new convention is:
00:47 kados       <img src="<!-- TMPL_VAR NAME="imageurl" -->" alt="<!-- TMPL_VAR NAME="description" -->" title="<!-- TMPL_VAR NAME="description" -->" />
00:47 kados       instead of linking to a specific .git
00:47 kados       gif I mean
00:47 kados       :-)
00:48 kados       but I don't see how that list is being created
00:48 kados       it looks like opac-shelves.pl is mostly a placeholder
00:48 kados       whith the heavy lifting being done in the modules
00:48 atz         ah yes..
00:48 atz         C4::VirtualShelves/Page.pm
00:48 atz         C4/VirtualShelves/Page.pm
00:48 kados       yep
00:49 kados       but I don't even see a call to GetBiblio or anything
00:49 kados       or is it GetBibliofromItemNumber
00:49 kados       is vshelves a list of items or biblios?
00:49 atz         yeah, GetBiblioFromItemNumber
00:49 kados       (I guess it should be both long-term, depending on it's purpose)
00:50 kados       (if we use this sas the general purpose container for bulk updates, etc)
00:50 atz         vshelves is biblios, never items
00:50 kados       k
00:50 kados       so where would I add imageurl?
00:50 kados       should it just go in GetBibliofromItemNumber
00:51 kados       and if it's a list of biblios, why do we have an itemnumber?
00:53 atz         on the staff side, librarians expect to make the list by scanning books
00:53 atz         in addition to searching
00:53 atz         so that's why you have a barcode
00:54 kados       *nod*
00:54 kados       ok, so any thoughts on where best to insert this imageurl?
00:55 atz         not really
00:55 atz         i'm not sure where it comes from in all cases
00:55 atz         does it map at the biblio level, bilioitems level?
00:56 atz         w/ some syspref about what (local or remote) directory the gifs are supposed to live in?
00:56 kados       in this case it's biblioitems level
00:56 kados       yea, don't worry about where imageurl is built from, that part's done, I just need to know where in Vshelves code I can insert it into biblioitems hash
00:58 atz         GetShelfContents, probably
00:58 atz         (or just after that call, line 141)
00:58 atz         in Page.pm
00:59 atz         since this is really an aspect of the page, and not the back end, Page.pm makes the most sense
00:59 atz         and will affect both opac and intranet there
01:00 kados       cool
01:00 kados       Ill inspect $items to see the format
01:05 kados       cool, that worked, thanks
01:15 kados       atz: any comment on bug 1873?
01:41 atz         kados: this appears to a problem with the DB constraint definition
01:42 atz         the field dateadded is of type=timestamp
01:42 atz         but it isn't updating
01:48 ryan        /Users/ryan/Library/Application\ Support/xPad/Temp/ISLC\ Reinstall.txt
01:48 ryan        oops
01:48 ryan        C-c C-v error
01:53 atz         kados: updated bug
01:56 atz         updated updated... heh