| Time |
S |
Nick |
Message |
| 13:05 |
|
hdl |
hi gmcharlt |
| 13:05 |
|
gmcharlt |
hi hdl |
| 13:05 |
|
hdl |
are you around ? |
| 13:05 |
|
kados |
hi guys |
| 13:06 |
|
hdl |
hi kados |
| 13:06 |
|
gmcharlt |
hi kados |
| 13:07 |
|
kados |
hdl: plan to do a bugfix meeting today still? |
| 13:07 |
|
hdl |
Reading my message about bug sqaushing sessions back today, I realised that time schedule was wrong. |
| 13:07 |
|
hdl |
But session I would like to have it today. Yes. |
| 13:08 |
|
kados |
OK |
| 13:08 |
|
hdl |
What time would be better for you all ? |
| 13:09 |
|
kados |
well, /me wants to roll the 3.0 beta this weekend |
| 13:09 |
|
kados |
and that could take about 6-8 hours :-) |
| 13:10 |
|
hdl |
could we have it begin at 19pm French time ? |
| 13:10 |
|
hdl |
Or should we begin now. |
| 13:10 |
|
kados |
hdl: what time is that in GMT? |
| 13:10 |
|
hdl |
17GMT |
| 13:11 |
|
kados |
so Noon US time |
| 13:11 |
|
hdl |
OK. |
| 13:11 |
|
hdl |
So we should start now. |
| 13:12 |
|
kados |
hdl: I was thinking we should work on bugs, but also, I'd like to migrate the mailing lists next week |
| 13:12 |
|
hdl |
And stop it at noon. |
| 13:12 |
|
kados |
hdl: can we schedule a time to do that next week? |
| 13:13 |
|
hdl |
Can you give me the login to catch the lists and have it on our server. |
| 13:13 |
|
hdl |
? |
| 13:13 |
|
hdl |
I would like to test it. |
| 13:15 |
|
kados |
it's important that the transition be seamless, obviously |
| 13:15 |
|
kados |
it was pretty simple when we moved from sourceforge.com to savannah because the savannah guys took care of all the hard stuff :-) |
| 13:15 |
|
kados |
like history, etc. |
| 13:16 |
|
hdl |
Yes. |
| 13:16 |
|
hdl |
hi fbcit. |
| 13:17 |
|
kados |
hdl: did you address MJ's question about Mailman? |
| 13:18 |
|
hdl |
When he said we should change our mailing list software ? |
| 13:19 |
|
kados |
well, I think he asked a question about mailman |
| 13:19 |
|
hdl |
I had no time setting up a new one on our box and test it. |
| 13:19 |
|
kados |
s a better list software than Mailman possible? mlmmj, ecartis, |
| 13:19 |
|
kados |
sympa and eoc all appear better in some ways. |
| 13:19 |
|
kados |
Can the List-Id values be preserved if lists moved? Last I saw, |
| 13:19 |
|
kados |
Mailman couldn't cope with that (it had to be listname.domain), which |
| 13:19 |
|
kados |
breaks some good email filters. I think that should rule out Mailman |
| 13:19 |
|
kados |
if we're considering moving lists. |
| 13:21 |
|
kados |
that was from slef |
| 13:21 |
|
kados |
slef/mj :-) |
| 13:21 |
|
hdl |
I cannot answer him until I try to move the lists from savannah to our server. |
| 13:21 |
|
kados |
OK |
| 13:22 |
|
kados |
I am trying to get SSH access now |
| 13:22 |
|
hdl |
I donot know which mailman version they use. |
| 13:24 |
|
hdl |
OK. |
| 13:26 |
|
hdl |
So. Should we have bug squashing time now. For 2 hours and then have an other one at 22PM GMT ? |
| 13:29 |
|
kados |
OK |
| 13:31 |
|
hdl |
Should we review bugs we already see last time ? |
| 13:31 |
|
kados |
hdl: sure |
| 13:31 |
|
hdl |
Should we fix them. |
| 13:31 |
|
hdl |
Now. |
| 13:31 |
|
kados |
probably :-) |
| 13:31 |
|
hdl |
http://tinyurl.com/2s7q3d |
| 13:31 |
|
hdl |
So here it is. |
| 13:37 |
|
kados |
hdl: I have a few bugs to push up ... they may affect your bugfixing |
| 13:37 |
|
hdl |
Then Push. I will rebase |
| 13:40 |
|
kados |
hdl: your fix for 1898, you want me to ignore the first one, right? |
| 13:40 |
|
hdl |
Yes. |
| 13:40 |
|
hdl |
I included the first one in the second. |
| 13:50 |
|
fbcit |
why is opac so slow? |
| 13:51 |
|
kados |
fbcit: ? |
| 13:52 |
|
fbcit |
it seems to crawl lately |
| 13:52 |
|
kados |
fbcit: anything in particular that it's slow at? |
| 13:53 |
|
fbcit |
kados: page loads |
| 13:54 |
|
fbcit |
kados: 'volume number' is not used in opac that I can see |
| 13:55 |
|
kados |
fbcit: OK, it should probably be added |
| 13:55 |
|
kados |
fbcit: are you using remote or local YUI? |
| 13:56 |
|
fbcit |
kados: local |
| 13:58 |
|
kados |
fbcit: that could be the prob :-) |
| 13:58 |
|
fbcit |
? |
| 13:58 |
|
kados |
fbcit: I think YUI servers have some special cacheing settings on the js libraries |
| 13:58 |
|
fbcit |
it was slow before, using remove |
| 13:58 |
|
fbcit |
remote also |
| 13:58 |
|
kados |
oh |
| 13:58 |
|
kados |
:/ |
| 13:59 |
|
fbcit |
it improved when I went local initially |
| 13:59 |
|
fbcit |
but slowed down over time |
| 13:59 |
|
kados |
weird |
| 14:00 |
|
fbcit |
I notice that we set "Cache-Control" to no-cache in the headers of all pages |
| 14:00 |
|
kados |
yea, that was actually a bug report |
| 14:00 |
|
fbcit |
any specific reason |
| 14:00 |
|
kados |
and should likely be a syspref |
| 14:01 |
|
kados |
lemme track down the exchange |
| 14:01 |
|
fbcit |
maybe a time to expire would be better |
| 14:01 |
|
kados |
I think that only caches the HTML portion of the page |
| 14:01 |
|
fbcit |
although some pages we might not want cached |
| 14:03 |
|
kados |
fbcit: http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…]w_bug.cgi?id=1373 |
| 14:03 |
|
kados |
ouch |
| 14:04 |
|
kados |
fbcit: see if it's faster when you remove the lines: |
| 14:04 |
|
kados |
-Pragma => 'no-cache', -'Cache-Control' => 'no-cache', |
| 14:10 |
|
kados |
:) |
| 14:11 |
|
fbcit |
this is painfully slow... 30-45 secs per page load |
| 14:12 |
|
kados |
hmmm |
| 14:12 |
|
kados |
fbcit: http://opacdemo.koha.org/ |
| 14:12 |
|
kados |
fbcit: is running latest git |
| 14:12 |
|
kados |
fbcit: any faster? |
| 14:13 |
|
fbcit |
on the order of a magnitude faster aamof |
| 14:14 |
|
kados |
ok, so it's server-side |
| 14:14 |
|
kados |
what's your server load? |
| 14:14 |
|
kados |
top should give you a good snapshot |
| 14:15 |
|
fbcit |
load average: 0.14, 0.23, 0.20 |
| 14:15 |
|
fbcit |
cpu is 99.8% idle |
| 14:15 |
|
fbcit |
very strange |
| 14:16 |
|
fbcit |
1GB ram and no paging file used |
| 14:16 |
|
kados |
OK, so it must be the network |
| 14:16 |
|
kados |
:) |
| 14:16 |
|
fbcit |
heh |
| 14:16 |
|
kados |
ntop |
| 14:16 |
|
fbcit |
0.037ms rtt |
| 14:17 |
|
kados |
weird |
| 14:18 |
|
kados |
have you restarted your browser lately? |
| 14:18 |
|
fbcit |
so what am I looking for w/ntop? |
| 14:18 |
|
fbcit |
no on browser |
| 14:19 |
|
kados |
if a browser restart works, that indicates perhaps a memory or variable leak? |
| 14:20 |
|
kados |
ntop I haven't used in 10 years :-) |
| 14:20 |
|
kados |
well, 5 at least |
| 14:20 |
|
kados |
so I can't recall ... I think it has some kind of web front end |
| 14:20 |
|
kados |
wheren you can see trafic patterns |
| 14:21 |
|
fbcit |
sounds interesting |
| 14:24 |
|
fbcit |
ttyl |
| 14:24 |
|
fbcit |
still slow btw |
| 14:24 |
|
kados |
:( |
| 14:24 |
|
fbcit |
I'll keep working on it |
| 14:24 |
|
fbcit |
tnx |
| 14:25 |
|
kados |
it could be mysql needs query cacheing adjusted |
| 14:25 |
|
kados |
that'd be in the my.cnf file |
| 14:25 |
|
kados |
key is to find the bottlekenck |
| 14:25 |
|
kados |
bottleneck |
| 14:27 |
|
fbcit |
tnx... on the phone |
| 16:52 |
|
martinmorris |
afternoon all |
| 16:52 |
|
martinmorris |
can anybody here advise if future editions of Koha will support FRBR? |
| 19:01 |
|
frederic |
hello |
| 19:03 |
|
atz_is_elsewher |
martinmorris: yes, FRBR is currently being developed |
| 19:10 |
|
atz_is_elsewher |
gmcharlt might be able to tell you more details |
| 21:08 |
|
hdl |
hi |
| 21:12 |
|
atz |
hdl: you may be interested to see this: |
| 21:12 |
|
atz |
http://libx.org/gbs/ |
| 21:12 |
|
atz |
using Google Book jacket images (very slickly applied w/ js) |
| 21:14 |
|
hdl |
atz : cool but will it be ok with French Books + what about : |
| 21:15 |
|
atz |
I think Google's reach will be less than Amazon initially... but we will see |
| 21:15 |
|
hdl |
a) books without ISBN or LCCN |
| 21:15 |
|
atz |
what do we do presently w/ Amazon? |
| 21:15 |
|
atz |
nothing, i think |
| 21:16 |
|
hdl |
we display a bad no image for that book. |
| 21:16 |
|
atz |
yeah, looks rather out of place |
| 21:18 |
|
hdl |
Librarything code for displaying "fake" cover images could be good for that. |
| 21:19 |
|
atz |
i have to read more about the Google API, but just looking at the HTML source for that demo page... it is very clean |
| 21:20 |
|
atz |
w/ the Amazon module falling out of date (Amazon started enforcing new API), now would be a good time to look at this stuff again |
| 21:20 |
|
atz |
hopefully I will be able to do so next week |
| 21:24 |
|
frederic |
hi guys! It's funny you're talking about Google Book Search API. I played with it this afternoon. |
| 21:24 |
|
frederic |
It's very easy to use. |
| 21:24 |
|
frederic |
hdl: Est-ce que tu es intéressé à avoir les facettes en français en recherche ? |
| 21:25 |
|
frederic |
J'ai proposé qque chose à kados. Je n'ai pas de nouvelle... |
| 21:25 |
|
hdl |
Allez épate moi. |
| 21:25 |
|
hdl |
;) |
| 21:25 |
|
frederic |
Et je ne vais pas rester bien longtement derrière mon écran :) |
| 21:25 |
|
frederic |
J'ai envoyé qque chose mais je ne l'ai plus |
| 21:25 |
|
hdl |
(english speaking here.) |
| 21:26 |
|
hdl |
can you point URL ? |
| 21:26 |
|
frederic |
yes naturlich. |
| 21:26 |
|
frederic |
Concerning Google Search: |
| 21:26 |
|
frederic |
http://lesc.koha.tamil.fr/cgi-[…]Aparkin%2C+robert |
| 21:27 |
|
frederic |
kados: do you plan to integrate something to allow facets translation? |
| 21:27 |
|
ryan |
hello #koha |
| 21:27 |
|
atz |
facets currently operate via Zebra, as I understand it |
| 21:28 |
|
frederic |
atz: I already sent a patch to allow translation of facet labels |
| 21:29 |
|
hdl |
hi ryan. |
| 21:29 |
|
frederic |
But it's not so easy to do since it's require someting like a configuration file which has to be copied in the appropriate directory with other zebra config files |
| 21:30 |
|
atz |
ah, i see... not part of the usual translation process |
| 21:31 |
|
frederic |
In other languages than English, it's definitely awful to have a result page with facet lables hard coded in English... |
| 21:32 |
|
frederic |
hdl: There is another aspect: facets can be expand on each site. One site could decide to allow facet search on a new field. This only could be done via a config file (my opinion :)) |
| 21:35 |
|
hdl |
Well : good idea. But eventually, we should provide a way for the user to do this without having troubles with configuraiton files. |
| 21:35 |
|
hdl |
have you sent your patch to paul ? |
| 21:36 |
|
frederic |
Not sure but I think so |
| 21:41 |
|
hdl |
atz : seems that facets are still not calculated with zebra today. |
| 21:43 |
|
hdl |
... But i may have overlooked the code. |
| 21:45 |
|
frederic |
hdl: I confirm facets are not generated using zebra zebra but with a loop through biblio records result set |
| 21:49 |
|
frederic |
I have to go. Good night (day). |
| 22:08 |
|
hdl |
good night |
| 22:25 |
|
hdl |
is there anyone ? |
| 22:45 |
|
hdl |
kados ? |
| 23:18 |
|
hdl |
Going to bed now. |
