Time Nick Message 13:05 hdl hi gmcharlt 13:05 gmcharlt hi hdl 13:05 hdl are you around ? 13:05 kados hi guys 13:06 hdl hi kados 13:06 gmcharlt hi kados 13:07 kados hdl: plan to do a bugfix meeting today still? 13:07 hdl Reading my message about bug sqaushing sessions back today, I realised that time schedule was wrong. 13:07 hdl But session I would like to have it today. Yes. 13:08 kados OK 13:08 hdl What time would be better for you all ? 13:09 kados well, /me wants to roll the 3.0 beta this weekend 13:09 kados and that could take about 6-8 hours :-) 13:10 hdl could we have it begin at 19pm French time ? 13:10 hdl Or should we begin now. 13:10 kados hdl: what time is that in GMT? 13:10 hdl 17GMT 13:11 kados so Noon US time 13:11 hdl OK. 13:11 hdl So we should start now. 13:12 kados hdl: I was thinking we should work on bugs, but also, I'd like to migrate the mailing lists next week 13:12 hdl And stop it at noon. 13:12 kados hdl: can we schedule a time to do that next week? 13:13 hdl Can you give me the login to catch the lists and have it on our server. 13:13 hdl ? 13:13 hdl I would like to test it. 13:15 kados it's important that the transition be seamless, obviously 13:15 kados it was pretty simple when we moved from sourceforge.com to savannah because the savannah guys took care of all the hard stuff :-) 13:15 kados like history, etc. 13:16 hdl Yes. 13:16 hdl hi fbcit. 13:17 kados hdl: did you address MJ's question about Mailman? 13:18 hdl When he said we should change our mailing list software ? 13:19 kados well, I think he asked a question about mailman 13:19 hdl I had no time setting up a new one on our box and test it. 13:19 kados s a better list software than Mailman possible? mlmmj, ecartis, 13:19 kados sympa and eoc all appear better in some ways. 13:19 kados Can the List-Id values be preserved if lists moved? Last I saw, 13:19 kados Mailman couldn't cope with that (it had to be listname.domain), which 13:19 kados breaks some good email filters. I think that should rule out Mailman 13:19 kados if we're considering moving lists. 13:21 kados that was from slef 13:21 kados slef/mj :-) 13:21 hdl I cannot answer him until I try to move the lists from savannah to our server. 13:21 kados OK 13:22 kados I am trying to get SSH access now 13:22 hdl I donot know which mailman version they use. 13:24 hdl OK. 13:26 hdl So. Should we have bug squashing time now. For 2 hours and then have an other one at 22PM GMT ? 13:29 kados OK 13:31 hdl Should we review bugs we already see last time ? 13:31 kados hdl: sure 13:31 hdl Should we fix them. 13:31 hdl Now. 13:31 kados probably :-) 13:31 hdl http://tinyurl.com/2s7q3d 13:31 hdl So here it is. 13:37 kados hdl: I have a few bugs to push up ... they may affect your bugfixing 13:37 hdl Then Push. I will rebase 13:40 kados hdl: your fix for 1898, you want me to ignore the first one, right? 13:40 hdl Yes. 13:40 hdl I included the first one in the second. 13:50 fbcit why is opac so slow? 13:51 kados fbcit: ? 13:52 fbcit it seems to crawl lately 13:52 kados fbcit: anything in particular that it's slow at? 13:53 fbcit kados: page loads 13:54 fbcit kados: 'volume number' is not used in opac that I can see 13:55 kados fbcit: OK, it should probably be added 13:55 kados fbcit: are you using remote or local YUI? 13:56 fbcit kados: local 13:58 kados fbcit: that could be the prob :-) 13:58 fbcit ? 13:58 kados fbcit: I think YUI servers have some special cacheing settings on the js libraries 13:58 fbcit it was slow before, using remove 13:58 fbcit remote also 13:58 kados oh 13:58 kados :/ 13:59 fbcit it improved when I went local initially 13:59 fbcit but slowed down over time 13:59 kados weird 14:00 fbcit I notice that we set "Cache-Control" to no-cache in the headers of all pages 14:00 kados yea, that was actually a bug report 14:00 fbcit any specific reason 14:00 kados and should likely be a syspref 14:01 kados lemme track down the exchange 14:01 fbcit maybe a time to expire would be better 14:01 kados I think that only caches the HTML portion of the page 14:01 fbcit although some pages we might not want cached 14:03 kados fbcit: http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=1373 14:03 kados ouch 14:04 kados fbcit: see if it's faster when you remove the lines: 14:04 kados -Pragma => 'no-cache', -'Cache-Control' => 'no-cache', 14:10 kados :) 14:11 fbcit this is painfully slow... 30-45 secs per page load 14:12 kados hmmm 14:12 kados fbcit: http://opacdemo.koha.org/ 14:12 kados fbcit: is running latest git 14:12 kados fbcit: any faster? 14:13 fbcit on the order of a magnitude faster aamof 14:14 kados ok, so it's server-side 14:14 kados what's your server load? 14:14 kados top should give you a good snapshot 14:15 fbcit load average: 0.14, 0.23, 0.20 14:15 fbcit cpu is 99.8% idle 14:15 fbcit very strange 14:16 fbcit 1GB ram and no paging file used 14:16 kados OK, so it must be the network 14:16 kados :) 14:16 fbcit heh 14:16 kados ntop 14:16 fbcit 0.037ms rtt 14:17 kados weird 14:18 kados have you restarted your browser lately? 14:18 fbcit so what am I looking for w/ntop? 14:18 fbcit no on browser 14:19 kados if a browser restart works, that indicates perhaps a memory or variable leak? 14:20 kados ntop I haven't used in 10 years :-) 14:20 kados well, 5 at least 14:20 kados so I can't recall ... I think it has some kind of web front end 14:20 kados wheren you can see trafic patterns 14:21 fbcit sounds interesting 14:24 fbcit ttyl 14:24 fbcit still slow btw 14:24 kados :( 14:24 fbcit I'll keep working on it 14:24 fbcit tnx 14:25 kados it could be mysql needs query cacheing adjusted 14:25 kados that'd be in the my.cnf file 14:25 kados key is to find the bottlekenck 14:25 kados bottleneck 14:27 fbcit tnx... on the phone 16:52 martinmorris afternoon all 16:52 martinmorris can anybody here advise if future editions of Koha will support FRBR? 19:01 frederic hello 19:03 atz_is_elsewher martinmorris: yes, FRBR is currently being developed 19:10 atz_is_elsewher gmcharlt might be able to tell you more details 21:08 hdl hi 21:12 atz hdl: you may be interested to see this: 21:12 atz http://libx.org/gbs/ 21:12 atz using Google Book jacket images (very slickly applied w/ js) 21:14 hdl atz : cool but will it be ok with French Books + what about : 21:15 atz I think Google's reach will be less than Amazon initially... but we will see 21:15 hdl a) books without ISBN or LCCN 21:15 atz what do we do presently w/ Amazon? 21:15 atz nothing, i think 21:16 hdl we display a bad no image for that book. 21:16 atz yeah, looks rather out of place 21:18 hdl Librarything code for displaying "fake" cover images could be good for that. 21:19 atz i have to read more about the Google API, but just looking at the HTML source for that demo page... it is very clean 21:20 atz w/ the Amazon module falling out of date (Amazon started enforcing new API), now would be a good time to look at this stuff again 21:20 atz hopefully I will be able to do so next week 21:24 frederic hi guys! It's funny you're talking about Google Book Search API. I played with it this afternoon. 21:24 frederic It's very easy to use. 21:24 frederic hdl: Est-ce que tu es intéressé à avoir les facettes en français en recherche ? 21:25 frederic J'ai proposé qque chose à kados. Je n'ai pas de nouvelle... 21:25 hdl Allez épate moi. 21:25 hdl ;) 21:25 frederic Et je ne vais pas rester bien longtement derrière mon écran :) 21:25 frederic J'ai envoyé qque chose mais je ne l'ai plus 21:25 hdl (english speaking here.) 21:26 hdl can you point URL ? 21:26 frederic yes naturlich. 21:26 frederic Concerning Google Search: 21:26 frederic http://lesc.koha.tamil.fr/cgi-bin/koha/opac-search.pl?q=au%3Aparkin%2C+robert 21:27 frederic kados: do you plan to integrate something to allow facets translation? 21:27 ryan hello #koha 21:27 atz facets currently operate via Zebra, as I understand it 21:28 frederic atz: I already sent a patch to allow translation of facet labels 21:29 hdl hi ryan. 21:29 frederic But it's not so easy to do since it's require someting like a configuration file which has to be copied in the appropriate directory with other zebra config files 21:30 atz ah, i see... not part of the usual translation process 21:31 frederic In other languages than English, it's definitely awful to have a result page with facet lables hard coded in English... 21:32 frederic hdl: There is another aspect: facets can be expand on each site. One site could decide to allow facet search on a new field. This only could be done via a config file (my opinion :)) 21:35 hdl Well : good idea. But eventually, we should provide a way for the user to do this without having troubles with configuraiton files. 21:35 hdl have you sent your patch to paul ? 21:36 frederic Not sure but I think so 21:41 hdl atz : seems that facets are still not calculated with zebra today. 21:43 hdl ... But i may have overlooked the code. 21:45 frederic hdl: I confirm facets are not generated using zebra zebra but with a loop through biblio records result set 21:49 frederic I have to go. Good night (day). 22:08 hdl good night 22:25 hdl is there anyone ? 22:45 hdl kados ? 23:18 hdl Going to bed now.