| Time |
S |
Nick |
Message |
| 13:33 |
|
kados |
g'morning #koha |
| 13:46 |
|
paul_ |
hello kados |
| 13:47 |
|
paul |
do you have some minuts for a git question ? |
| 13:50 |
|
kados |
hey paul |
| 13:50 |
|
kados |
paul: sup? |
| 13:51 |
|
paul |
sup? ??? |
| 13:52 |
|
kados |
what's up? => sup? :-) |
| 13:52 |
|
kados |
it's rapper speak :-) |
| 13:54 |
|
kados |
yea, setup can be tough |
| 13:54 |
|
kados |
if you are around in a few hours chris may be able to assist |
| 13:54 |
|
kados |
he's our resident git expert :-) |
| 13:55 |
|
kados |
paul: got a quick sec for a question? |
| 13:55 |
|
kados |
paul: two actually :-) |
| 13:55 |
|
paul |
yep, throw your questions |
| 13:56 |
|
kados |
1. when you edit a patron, does the drop-down for branch have encoding correct? |
| 13:56 |
|
kados |
for me it's double-encoded |
| 13:57 |
|
kados |
(I have the Instiut protestant de Theologie |
| 13:57 |
|
kados |
and it is mangled |
| 13:57 |
|
kados |
) |
| 13:57 |
|
kados |
2. what is authorities 'report tag'? |
| 13:58 |
|
paul |
question 2 first : |
| 13:58 |
|
paul |
(all examples for unimarc) |
| 13:59 |
|
paul |
here is your authority entry : |
| 13:59 |
|
paul |
200$aFerarro$bJoshua$d1975-... |
| 13:59 |
|
paul |
400$akados |
| 13:59 |
|
paul |
450$aLibLime |
| 13:59 |
|
paul |
(kados = rejected term) |
| 14:00 |
|
kados |
:) |
| 14:00 |
|
paul |
(LibLime = see also. and it's not in 450, but in 500) |
| 14:00 |
|
kados |
*nod* |
| 14:00 |
|
paul |
let's say joshua write a book as author. |
| 14:00 |
|
paul |
in biblio, you'll have : |
| 14:01 |
|
paul |
700$9your_authority_number_that_is_in_001_and_i_forget_to_add$aFerraro$bJoshua$d1975 |
| 14:01 |
|
paul |
(the authority number : I forgot to add a 001 to the authority) |
| 14:01 |
|
kados |
*nod* |
| 14:01 |
|
paul |
the tag_to_report says : from the authority, you report the 200 field from the authority into the 7xx field of the biblio when the authority is choosen. |
| 14:02 |
|
paul |
in unimarc, PN=200,Congres=210,Common name=250, ... |
| 14:03 |
|
kados |
what do you mean by 'report'? |
| 14:03 |
|
paul |
(maybe it's a frenchism ;-) ) it's the authority tag you copy in the biblio |
| 14:03 |
|
kados |
ahh, ok |
| 14:04 |
|
kados |
what if I want to put all the tags in? |
| 14:04 |
|
kados |
or more than one? |
| 14:04 |
|
paul |
you can't. |
| 14:04 |
|
paul |
but what kind of copy could you want to do ? |
| 14:04 |
|
kados |
let's s/report/copy/ |
| 14:05 |
|
paul |
(in unimarc, you copy only 1) |
| 14:05 |
|
kados |
OK, now I understand |
| 14:05 |
|
kados |
thanks! |
| 14:05 |
|
kados |
I will update the nomenclature to be clear |
| 14:05 |
|
kados |
so i don't have to ask again! :-) |
| 14:05 |
|
paul |
question 1 : works fine for me |
| 14:05 |
|
paul |
but... i need to update my repo. |
| 14:05 |
|
paul |
testing with an uptodate repo... |
| 14:05 |
|
kados |
ok |
| 14:06 |
|
paul |
http://i15.bureau.paulpoulain.[…]1&category_type=A |
| 14:06 |
|
paul |
seems OK |
| 14:06 |
|
kados |
I have noticed that all CGI::popup_menu have bad encoding |
| 14:06 |
|
kados |
what version of CGI are you running? |
| 14:07 |
|
paul |
CGI::popup_menu ??? |
| 14:07 |
|
kados |
and CGI::scrolling_list |
| 14:07 |
|
kados |
scrolling_list is the one I meant |
| 14:08 |
|
paul |
CGI = 3.29 |
| 14:08 |
|
kados |
hmmm, I have 3.15 |
| 14:08 |
|
kados |
I will test upgradeing |
| 14:09 |
|
kados |
still double-encoded :( |
| 14:11 |
|
kados |
paul: do you have any hacked modules to fudge with the utf8 flag? |
| 14:11 |
|
paul |
nope |
| 14:11 |
|
gmcharlt |
kados: I'll play around with the utf8 module -- had noticed this issue before and can come up with a patch quickly |
| 14:11 |
|
kados |
gmcharlt: sweet, thanks |
| 14:12 |
|
paul |
gmcharlt: do you have an idea why I don't have the problem ? |
| 14:12 |
|
paul |
(I have only 1 small remaining problem : the encoding of the branch login (top right) that is mungled as well |
| 14:30 |
|
kados |
mornin atz |
| 14:30 |
|
atz |
greets |
| 14:31 |
|
atz |
still lots of _away'ers |
| 14:32 |
|
kados |
*nod* |
| 14:32 |
|
kados |
atz: how was the holiday? |
| 14:33 |
|
atz |
it was nice. a little bit of everything... |
| 14:34 |
|
atz |
how 'bout you? |
| 14:34 |
|
kados |
not bad ... |
| 14:34 |
|
kados |
nice and quiet |
| 14:34 |
|
kados |
lends itself well to getting stuff done ... holidays are my favorite time to work :-) |
| 14:37 |
|
kados |
atz: stick around in Ohio? or did you travel? |
| 14:37 |
|
atz |
lol holiday/work |
| 14:38 |
|
atz |
yeah, my brother and sister came home from brooklyn and florida, respectively |
| 14:38 |
|
atz |
we went up to cleveland area for xmas day |
| 14:38 |
|
kados |
cool |
| 14:39 |
|
kados |
wow, brooklyn ... |
| 14:41 |
|
atz |
yeah, he's been there about 16 months... |
| 14:44 |
|
paul |
hello atz |
| 14:44 |
|
atz |
hi paul |
| 14:45 |
|
paul |
at the end of this week, we will go to my sister home, because of 2 events : the beginning of 2008, and the beginning of my 40's (will occur jan 9th) |
| 14:46 |
|
atz |
nearby? |
| 14:46 |
|
paul |
1 hour travelling (in "Tarascon") |
| 14:46 |
|
kados |
paul: also on the coast of south France? |
| 14:46 |
|
paul |
(a famous village due to "Tartarin de Tarascon", a famous book heroes here in france) |
| 14:47 |
|
paul |
kados : almost. |
| 14:48 |
|
paul |
I have to leave for an hour or so. will brb |
| 14:55 |
|
gmcharlt |
hi atz |
| 14:55 |
|
atz |
greets gmcharlt |
| 15:57 |
|
fbcit |
morning koha |
| 15:59 |
|
fbcit |
kados: how do you run your hardware config on koha servers? |
| 15:59 |
|
fbcit |
specifically HDD config |
| 15:59 |
|
kados |
well, it depends |
| 15:59 |
|
fbcit |
do you keep the db on a separate drive/array from the system/app stuff |
| 15:59 |
|
kados |
yea, you can do that |
| 15:59 |
|
kados |
it's a question of how much money you have :-) |
| 16:00 |
|
fbcit |
or spare hardware :-) |
| 16:00 |
|
kados |
ideal scenerio would be to have a disk array for system/app, one for mysql, and one for zebra |
| 16:00 |
|
fbcit |
ahh |
| 16:00 |
|
kados |
and a second server that does real-time replication for all three |
| 16:00 |
|
kados |
if you have a big library, you'd want to split up the services into independent hardware platforms |
| 16:00 |
|
fbcit |
I also try to run a separate drive for swap as well |
| 16:01 |
|
kados |
so you might have a web server or two that handle the OPAC, and a SAN for the database, etc. |
| 16:01 |
|
fbcit |
we on the small side with maybe 25k volumes |
| 16:02 |
|
kados |
at that size you could probably run happliy on a soekris box with a 256MB flash drive ;-) |
| 16:02 |
|
fbcit |
hehe |
| 16:03 |
|
fbcit |
performance will not be as much of an issue here as data protection |
| 16:03 |
|
kados |
in that case I'd highly recommend some form of RAID |
| 16:03 |
|
kados |
minimally mirroring of the database |
| 16:04 |
|
kados |
and probably mysql real-time replication to another 'Slave' server |
| 16:04 |
|
kados |
which is easy to setup |
| 16:04 |
|
kados |
unless you're running a completely vanilla system, you'll also want to have something in place to do off-server backups of your installation |
| 16:05 |
|
kados |
config files, etc. |
| 16:05 |
|
fbcit |
DDS |
| 16:05 |
|
kados |
*cough* |
| 16:05 |
|
kados |
waste of time IMO |
| 16:05 |
|
kados |
just set up rsync |
| 16:05 |
|
fbcit |
SAN |
| 16:06 |
|
kados |
rsync is your best friend for backups :-) |
| 16:06 |
|
fbcit |
I currently have an rsync server which handles backups of all other *nix systems on the network |
| 16:06 |
|
fbcit |
and some Win32 stuff |
| 16:07 |
|
fbcit |
adding the db to that should be a simple matter |
| 16:07 |
|
fbcit |
tnx that gives me something to chew on |
| 16:08 |
|
kados |
you'll want to use mysqldump for the db |
| 16:08 |
|
kados |
for periodic backups |
| 16:08 |
|
kados |
and real-time backups with mysql replication |
| 16:09 |
|
kados |
hehe |
| 16:09 |
|
kados |
here's an ancient one |
| 16:09 |
|
kados |
http://www.kohadocs.org/Backup[…]nd_Restoring.html |
| 16:09 |
|
kados |
2004-12-15 :-) |
| 16:09 |
|
fbcit |
so 'Slave' (above) == 'hot standby' ? |
| 16:09 |
|
kados |
yes |
| 16:09 |
|
kados |
if configured as such |
| 16:09 |
|
kados |
but for that you need a monitor |
| 16:09 |
|
fbcit |
at lease warm standby |
| 16:09 |
|
kados |
yea |
| 16:09 |
|
fbcit |
least also |
| 16:18 |
|
arsenic |
hello koha! |
| 16:19 |
|
gmcharlt |
hi arsenic |
| 16:20 |
|
gmcharlt |
paul: to answer your question from a while back, it looks like the version of DBD::mysql matters -- what version are you using? |
| 16:20 |
|
kados |
hey arsenic |
| 16:21 |
|
fbcit |
hi arsenic |
| 16:24 |
|
paul |
i'm back |
| 16:24 |
|
arsenic |
hi paul! |
| 16:25 |
|
paul |
gmcharlt: DBD::mysql => 4.005 |
| 16:25 |
|
paul |
??? the problem seems to have been solved. It works fine now |
| 16:25 |
|
paul |
mmm... no |
| 16:26 |
|
paul |
the 1st screen after login is correct, but thereafter, branchname is mungled |
| 16:28 |
|
gmcharlt |
paul: so far, it looks like you need at least version 4.005 of DBD::mysql (which we're in the process of testing on a LL server, as Debian Etch ships with only version 3.008) |
| 16:28 |
|
gmcharlt |
also, C4::Context does not appear to be enabling DBD::mysql's utf8 flag correctly |
| 21:30 |
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| 22:53 |
|
chris |
hey is pate :) ltns |
| 22:53 |
|
kados |
wow |
| 22:53 |
|
kados |
pate: hey! |
| 22:53 |
|
pate |
yeah, thought I'd swing by and see what's up |
| 22:54 |
|
kados |
pate: what's new with you? |
| 22:54 |
|
pate |
not too much |
| 22:54 |
|
pate |
working on genealogy stuff these days |
| 22:54 |
|
kados |
cool |
| 22:54 |
|
kados |
for familysearch.org? |
| 22:55 |
|
pate |
yup |
| 22:55 |
|
pate |
cool. |
| 22:55 |
|
chris |
i hear you are gonna meet up with rach and si? |
| 22:55 |
|
pate |
I didn't realize we sent anyone there |
| 22:55 |
|
pate |
yeah, I'm looking forward to it |
| 22:56 |
|
pate |
(actually, I'm hoping to talk them into meeting up with some folks here) |
| 22:56 |
|
chris |
sweet |
| 22:56 |
|
chris |
:-) |
| 22:56 |
|
pate |
we've got a lot of data in our collection, and there are many conversations about indexing, cataloging, etc. |
| 22:57 |
|
chris |
*nod* |
| 22:58 |
|
pate |
so, what's up in koha land? |
| 22:58 |
|
chris |
lots of bugfixing :) |
| 22:58 |
|
chris |
in the push to get 3.0 out |
| 22:58 |
|
pate |
oh, sweet! |
| 22:58 |
|
pate |
I didn't realize you guys were making a push these days |
| 22:59 |
|
pate |
what big changes are going into 3.0? |
| 22:59 |
|
chris |
the major one is a rework of how marc data is handled, and how searching is done |
| 23:00 |
|
chris |
then tons of small features too ... independent branches is quite a nice feature too |
| 23:00 |
|
kados |
we have APIs now! :-) |
| 23:00 |
|
kados |
SRU/Z39.50 for searching, SIP2, LDAP, plus some native REST stuff for managing biblio data |
| 23:00 |
|
pate |
very cool |
| 23:01 |
|
kados |
brand new installer |
| 23:01 |
|
kados |
and we switched to Git for revision control |
| 23:01 |
|
kados |
pate: http://wiki.koha.org/doku.php?[…]lopment:git_usage |
| 23:01 |
|
kados |
pate: if you're keen to try it out ... |
| 23:02 |
|
pate |
I might take a look at it ... I'm not really up to snuff in Perl anymore though |
| 23:03 |
|
pate |
git seems to be gaining momentum |
| 23:04 |
|
chris |
yeah its pretty cool |
| 23:04 |
|
kados |
git++ |
| 23:30 |
|
atz |
hrm... the "Important links here." default should be changed to be valid HTML (inside tags) |
| 23:31 |
|
kados |
atz: agreed |
| 23:34 |
|
atz |
actually... it can't really be much, since it falls in between the opening of <ul> and the first <li> |
| 23:36 |
|
kados |
it's designed to be a place you can add new <li>s |
| 23:36 |
|
kados |
and it just pushes the other ones down |
| 23:36 |
|
kados |
a la search.myacpl.org |
| 23:37 |
|
atz |
right... so we can't just throw text, or <p> or whatever other tags in there |
| 23:37 |
|
kados |
*nod* |
| 23:37 |
|
kados |
should be <li> |
| 23:37 |
|
kados |
also notice that it's a syspref :-) |
| 23:37 |
|
kados |
so the user can add their own content without having to touch the template |
| 23:38 |
|
kados |
OpacNav syspref |
| 23:38 |
|
kados |
also see OpacMainUserBlock |
| 23:38 |
|
kados |
A user-defined block of HTML in the main content area of the opac main page |
| 23:38 |
|
kados |
which is also a syspref |
| 23:38 |
|
atz |
yep, i noticed that, and then checked the default sql |
| 23:38 |
|
kados |
means that those modifs survive an update |
| 23:38 |
|
kados |
which is better than having your local changes wiped out when upgrading |
| 23:39 |
|
atz |
that means the pages don't validate by default |
| 23:40 |
|
atz |
but w/ valid data, it is a cool customizeability |
| 23:40 |
|
kados |
*nod* |
| 23:40 |
|
kados |
I don't think anyone's seriously audited anything in the OPAC for 3.0 yet |
| 23:40 |
|
kados |
I know I haven't |
| 23:41 |
|
kados |
but that's typically a weekend-sort-of-thing |
| 23:41 |
|
kados |
ie, it's not a long process, there's not much to the opac |
| 23:41 |
|
kados |
compared with say, acquisitions :-) |
| 00:13 |
|
atz |
what's up w/ arwen? |
| 00:32 |
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