Time |
S |
Nick |
Message |
22:15 |
|
kados |
chris++ |
22:15 |
|
kados |
thanks |
22:15 |
|
chris |
np |
22:16 |
|
kados |
chris: we should put some documentation on our staff wiki for stuff like that |
22:16 |
|
kados |
unless it's something you have to do from your account on merry |
22:17 |
|
chris |
ts just running in a screen |
22:17 |
|
chris |
ill write it up |
22:18 |
|
kados |
sweet |
22:40 |
|
kados |
chris: you around? |
22:50 |
|
chris |
yep |
23:45 |
|
thd |
kados: I am back |
23:45 |
|
thd |
kados: and I found the olinks code :) |
23:46 |
|
kados |
wow, cool |
23:46 |
|
kados |
where was it hidden? |
23:50 |
|
thd |
kados: it is written in PHP with MySQL tables and an administration script in Perl |
23:50 |
|
kados |
thd: great detective work |
23:53 |
|
thd |
yet, we have an OpenURL resolver as part of something from IndexData? |
23:54 |
|
kados |
do we? |
23:54 |
|
kados |
I'm not sure actually, I'll ask |
23:54 |
|
thd |
I thought that you had made that assertion at some time |
23:58 |
|
thd |
kados: what had you wanted a couple of hours ago? |
23:59 |
|
kados |
I was going to ask you about MARC holdings data models |
23:59 |
|
thd |
what about them? |
23:59 |
|
kados |
well, just mainly brainstorming on what changes need to be made to the koha frameworks and the koha sql tables to achieve optimal support for the standard |
00:01 |
|
thd |
kados: if you want optimal support use tumer's XML metarecord model |
00:04 |
|
thd |
kados: then create some additional local use indexing field for indexing at whatever level is desired: monograph for monographs; year, issue, whatever for serials all in separate holdings record components |
00:05 |
|
thd |
kados: is that too much work? :) |
00:06 |
|
thd |
s/components/MARC records held within the metadata record for indexing/ |
00:06 |
|
thd |
s/metadata record/metarecord/ |
00:08 |
|
thd |
kados: the individual bibliographic and holdings records are each created and edited separately |
00:09 |
|
thd |
each stored separately with the metarecord built by a script but never edited directly |
00:09 |
|
kados |
I have to look again at his model |
00:11 |
|
thd |
kados: I think that trying to fix that very well in SQL could be more work than required to implement tumer's model, especially as he has it working |
00:11 |
|
thd |
kados: do you have funding to make it work for you? |
00:12 |
|
kados |
yes, perhaps |
00:21 |
|
thd |
hello dewey |
00:25 |
|
thd |
kados: were you still hoping to model holdings in some elegant set of hierarchical SQL tables? |
00:26 |
|
kados |
perhaps |
00:27 |
|
thd |
kados: I would suggest fixing the indexation model with XPath in Zebra first and then see if supplementing that with something in SQL can produce additional value |
00:31 |
|
thd |
kados: it is too easy to end up with the same efficiency problems which prompted moving to Zebra if you do not address the problem in Zebra first |
00:44 |
|
thd |
kados: http://library.neu.edu.tr/kohanamespace/ |
00:44 |
|
thd |
kados: http://library.neu.edu.tr/koha[…]ce/koharecord.xsd |
00:45 |
|
thd |
kados: these are actually extensions of very similar LC documents for MARCXML |
00:51 |
|
thd |
kados: here is an XSL file for indexing: http://library.neu.edu.tr/koha[…]ce/koha2index.xsl |
02:04 |
|
kados |
chris: seen this one: http://lists.katipo.co.nz/publ[…]-June/011852.html |
02:04 |
|
dewey |
I haven't seen 'this', kados |
02:09 |
|
kados |
thd`: I have downloaded olinks |
02:09 |
|
kados |
thd`: about to work through the install guide now |
02:39 |
|
kados |
thd`: we're missing some important files |
02:39 |
|
kados |
ipranges.php and members.php |
02:39 |
|
kados |
and I'm getting tired so I'm gonna head to bed |
02:41 |
|
chris |
ye[ |
02:41 |
|
chris |
i saw that id spotted it before his message |
02:41 |
|
chris |
and fixed the template |
02:41 |
|
kados |
sweet, thanks |
02:41 |
|
chris |
it hated RESERVES, namespace collision |
02:42 |
|
chris |
as RESERVES was defined in another loop too, its a bug in html::template |
02:42 |
|
kados |
wow |
02:42 |
|
kados |
interesting |
02:42 |
|
kados |
did you file a bug/ |
02:42 |
|
kados |
? |
02:42 |
|
chris |
unless its a new undocumented feature |
02:43 |
|
chris |
ie, html::template 2.9 error, 2.8 works fine |
02:43 |
|
chris |
change RESERVES to RESERVE |
02:43 |
|
dewey |
chris: that doesn't look right |
02:43 |
|
chris |
error goes awya |
02:43 |
|
kados |
night #koha |
02:44 |
|
chris |
night |
04:07 |
|
kados |
hey randy, welcome to #koha :-) |
04:07 |
|
kados |
kados = Joshua |
04:07 |
|
kados |
:-) |
04:08 |
|
randy |
hi josh, guess we're both up late working!? |
04:08 |
|
randy |
just got ur email so thought i'd install and irc client and see if i could connect |
04:09 |
|
kados |
cool |
04:09 |
|
randy |
how does the process normally work... |
04:10 |
|
randy |
is it like im but for groups |
04:10 |
|
kados |
yea, basically |
04:10 |
|
kados |
the channel is held open as long as someone's on it |
04:11 |
|
kados |
and there's a bot that logs everything |
04:11 |
|
kados |
so even if you're not on the channel, you can always see what others have said |
04:11 |
|
randy |
cool |
04:11 |
|
kados |
its a pretty common way to chat among developers |