Time Nick Message 22:15 kados chris++ 22:15 kados thanks 22:15 chris np 22:16 kados chris: we should put some documentation on our staff wiki for stuff like that 22:16 kados unless it's something you have to do from your account on merry 22:17 chris ts just running in a screen 22:17 chris ill write it up 22:18 kados sweet 22:40 kados chris: you around? 22:50 chris yep 23:45 thd kados: I am back 23:45 thd kados: and I found the olinks code :) 23:46 kados wow, cool 23:46 kados where was it hidden? 23:50 thd kados: it is written in PHP with MySQL tables and an administration script in Perl 23:50 kados thd: great detective work 23:53 thd yet, we have an OpenURL resolver as part of something from IndexData? 23:54 kados do we? 23:54 kados I'm not sure actually, I'll ask 23:54 thd I thought that you had made that assertion at some time 23:58 thd kados: what had you wanted a couple of hours ago? 23:59 kados I was going to ask you about MARC holdings data models 23:59 thd what about them? 23:59 kados well, just mainly brainstorming on what changes need to be made to the koha frameworks and the koha sql tables to achieve optimal support for the standard 00:01 thd kados: if you want optimal support use tumer's XML metarecord model 00:04 thd kados: then create some additional local use indexing field for indexing at whatever level is desired: monograph for monographs; year, issue, whatever for serials all in separate holdings record components 00:05 thd kados: is that too much work? :) 00:06 thd s/components/MARC records held within the metadata record for indexing/ 00:06 thd s/metadata record/metarecord/ 00:08 thd kados: the individual bibliographic and holdings records are each created and edited separately 00:09 thd each stored separately with the metarecord built by a script but never edited directly 00:09 kados I have to look again at his model 00:11 thd kados: I think that trying to fix that very well in SQL could be more work than required to implement tumer's model, especially as he has it working 00:11 thd kados: do you have funding to make it work for you? 00:12 kados yes, perhaps 00:21 thd hello dewey 00:25 thd kados: were you still hoping to model holdings in some elegant set of hierarchical SQL tables? 00:26 kados perhaps 00:27 thd kados: I would suggest fixing the indexation model with XPath in Zebra first and then see if supplementing that with something in SQL can produce additional value 00:31 thd kados: it is too easy to end up with the same efficiency problems which prompted moving to Zebra if you do not address the problem in Zebra first 00:44 thd kados: http://library.neu.edu.tr/kohanamespace/ 00:44 thd kados: http://library.neu.edu.tr/kohanamespace/koharecord.xsd 00:45 thd kados: these are actually extensions of very similar LC documents for MARCXML 00:51 thd kados: here is an XSL file for indexing: http://library.neu.edu.tr/kohanamespace/koha2index.xsl 02:04 kados chris: seen this one: http://lists.katipo.co.nz/public/koha/2007-June/011852.html 02:04 dewey I haven't seen 'this', kados 02:09 kados thd`: I have downloaded olinks 02:09 kados thd`: about to work through the install guide now 02:39 kados thd`: we're missing some important files 02:39 kados ipranges.php and members.php 02:39 kados and I'm getting tired so I'm gonna head to bed 02:41 chris ye[ 02:41 chris i saw that id spotted it before his message 02:41 chris and fixed the template 02:41 kados sweet, thanks 02:41 chris it hated RESERVES, namespace collision 02:42 chris as RESERVES was defined in another loop too, its a bug in html::template 02:42 kados wow 02:42 kados interesting 02:42 kados did you file a bug/ 02:42 kados ? 02:42 chris unless its a new undocumented feature 02:43 chris ie, html::template 2.9 error, 2.8 works fine 02:43 chris change RESERVES to RESERVE 02:43 dewey chris: that doesn't look right 02:43 chris error goes awya 02:43 kados night #koha 02:44 chris night 04:07 kados hey randy, welcome to #koha :-) 04:07 kados kados = Joshua 04:07 kados :-) 04:08 randy hi josh, guess we're both up late working!? 04:08 randy just got ur email so thought i'd install and irc client and see if i could connect 04:09 kados cool 04:09 randy how does the process normally work... 04:10 randy is it like im but for groups 04:10 kados yea, basically 04:10 kados the channel is held open as long as someone's on it 04:11 kados and there's a bot that logs everything 04:11 kados so even if you're not on the channel, you can always see what others have said 04:11 randy cool 04:11 kados its a pretty common way to chat among developers