| Time |
S |
Nick |
Message |
| 19:30 |
|
thd |
kados: have you sorted all you commas and semicolons? |
| 19:53 |
|
qiqo |
hi |
| 19:54 |
|
qiqo |
anybody home? |
| 21:20 |
|
qiqo |
helloo |
| 21:33 |
|
thd |
hello qiqo |
| 21:41 |
|
qiqo |
hi thd |
| 21:41 |
|
thd |
hello |
| 21:41 |
|
qiqo |
i was wondering why the labeling feature is not available in 2.2.6RC2 |
| 21:42 |
|
qiqo |
i always encounter a 500 error |
| 21:42 |
|
thd |
qiqo: do you mean spine labels? |
| 21:43 |
|
qiqo |
yes |
| 21:43 |
|
qiqo |
i really dont know what the problem is |
| 21:43 |
|
thd |
qiqo: do you mean you find it in rel_2_2 but it is not working? |
| 21:44 |
|
thd |
qiqo: what does the error log show? |
| 21:44 |
|
qiqo |
[Thu Aug 31 01:16:52 2006] [error] [client 192.168.0.2] Premature end of script headers: label-home.pl |
| 21:44 |
|
qiqo |
its in 2.2.6RC2 |
| 21:44 |
|
qiqo |
and also with the cvs |
| 21:45 |
|
thd |
qiqo: do you have any errors before that? |
| 21:45 |
|
qiqo |
nope. nothing |
| 21:46 |
|
thd |
qiqo: that has too many possible sources of error |
| 21:48 |
|
thd |
qiqo: try turning on use strict and warnings in the Perl file. They are most likely commented out. |
| 21:51 |
|
qiqo |
er,, |
| 21:52 |
|
qiqo |
how is that |
| 21:52 |
|
qiqo |
the script only contains 55 linues |
| 21:52 |
|
qiqo |
lines |
| 21:52 |
|
qiqo |
then nothing is commented out |
| 21:53 |
|
qiqo |
and it doesnt have notes |
| 21:53 |
|
thd |
qiqo: where is it located in CVS? |
| 21:53 |
|
thd |
what directory? |
| 21:56 |
|
qiqo |
barcodes i think |
| 21:57 |
|
qiqo |
yes its at the barcodes directory on cvs |
| 22:01 |
|
thd |
qiqo: add a use warnings; line at line 4 |
| 22:04 |
|
thd |
qiqo: then run the script again and check the error log again for possible source of problems |
| 22:05 |
|
qiqo |
[Thu Aug 31 03:05:13 2006] [error] [client 192.168.0.2] Premature end of script headers: label-home.pl |
| 22:05 |
|
qiqo |
still that erro |
| 22:05 |
|
thd |
and nothing else? |
| 22:06 |
|
qiqo |
yup |
| 22:06 |
|
qiqo |
geez its a bit frustrating, there are no comments in the file, i just solved my barcode problem because i read the comments |
| 22:07 |
|
thd |
qiqo: I had actually thought there was a problem with the labels but kados was planning to fix it after he had finished his current migration from 2.2X to 2.4 |
| 22:08 |
|
qiqo |
ermm ok.. so why does liblime's label-spine printing working? |
| 22:08 |
|
qiqo |
2.4 is available? |
| 22:09 |
|
thd |
qiqo: no that is the problem |
| 22:09 |
|
thd |
qiqo: kados is working on it |
| 22:10 |
|
thd |
qiqo: maybe when you fixed barcode printing you created a problem for the labels |
| 22:10 |
|
qiqo |
nope |
| 22:10 |
|
qiqo |
before i fixed the barcode i already had this problem |
| 22:11 |
|
thd |
qiqo: what version of koha is reported as running on the LibLime system where this is working? |
| 22:12 |
|
qiqo |
2.2.6 |
| 22:14 |
|
qiqo |
is 2.2.6 available? |
| 22:14 |
|
qiqo |
i thought it was just 2.2.6RC2 |
| 22:15 |
|
thd |
qiqo: I do not believe the RC displays so that is likely what it is |
| 22:17 |
|
qiqo |
ok |
| 22:18 |
|
thd |
qiqo: you could uncomment use Data::Dumper; and try to trace the variables |
| 22:19 |
|
qiqo |
ok |
| 22:20 |
|
qiqo |
still the same nothing happens |
| 22:21 |
|
thd |
qiqo: you need to actually dump some data values but I have never designed with that module |
| 22:24 |
|
thd |
qiqo: maybe there is a problem if some values are empty |
| 22:25 |
|
thd |
qiqo: the premature end of script headers could be a file permissions problem |
| 22:27 |
|
thd |
qiqo: check that the Koha user or Apache user can read all needed files |
| 22:39 |
|
thd |
qiqo: see if you can obtain the attention of kados enough to give you some direction for the code he wrote when he is awake |
| 22:40 |
|
thd |
qiqo: I am missing values needed to test properly |
| 22:40 |
|
thd |
qiqo: at least I have some useful error messages but that does not help you |
| 22:41 |
|
qiqo |
sorry got dc |
| 22:42 |
|
thd |
qiqo read the #koha log for the past few minutes |
| 22:42 |
|
qiqo |
how? |
| 22:42 |
|
qiqo |
!help |
| 22:43 |
|
qiqo |
!Basics |
| 22:44 |
|
thd |
qiqo: http://koha.org/cgi-bin/logs.p[…]saveas=&save=save |
| 22:45 |
|
qiqo |
ok.. |
| 22:46 |
|
qiqo |
the templates for spine label printing only exists for npl |
| 22:46 |
|
qiqo |
so i switched to npl.. |
| 22:46 |
|
qiqo |
i also had to install HTML::Template |
| 22:47 |
|
thd |
qiqo: what boxes did you check in the label printing form? |
| 22:47 |
|
qiqo |
i dont get into the label-home |
| 22:48 |
|
qiqo |
therefore i cant see those boxes |
| 22:48 |
|
thd |
qiqo: oh then I suspect you have a permissions problem for your Koha installation |
| 22:49 |
|
qiqo |
huh? |
| 22:49 |
|
qiqo |
hows that? |
| 22:49 |
|
thd |
qiqo: on what operating system do you have Koha installed? |
| 22:50 |
|
qiqo |
debian stable |
| 22:53 |
|
thd |
qiqo: does the www-data group or whatever group you might otherwise have for your Apache user have read and execute permissions for every file in the barcodes directory? |
| 22:55 |
|
thd |
ls -l /usr/local/koha/barcodes or whatever the directory is on your system |
| 22:56 |
|
qiqo |
yes it does |
| 22:58 |
|
thd |
qiqo: what URL does your browser show for label printing? |
| 22:59 |
|
qiqo |
http://server:8080/cgi-bin/koh[…]des/label-home.pl |
| 23:00 |
|
thd |
qiqo: try removing /barcodes from that |
| 23:02 |
|
qiqo |
Not Found |
| 23:05 |
|
thd |
qiqo: what URL does the LibLime demo have? |
| 23:07 |
|
qiqo |
http://koha.liblime.com/cgi-bi[…]oha/label-home.pl |
| 23:10 |
|
qiqo |
hows that /koha/label-home? |
| 23:11 |
|
thd |
qiqo: some magic |
| 23:12 |
|
qiqo |
ermmm |
| 23:14 |
|
qiqo |
tried to make a folder "koha" on the cgi-bin but i get a 404 |
| 23:14 |
|
thd |
qiqo: are you using the update Koha method from kohadocs.org? |
| 23:14 |
|
qiqo |
000000000116 |
| 23:14 |
|
qiqo |
aw sorry |
| 23:14 |
|
qiqo |
yup |
| 23:15 |
|
qiqo |
with the symlinks and stuff |
| 23:16 |
|
thd |
qiqo: maybe there is still an error somewhere in the scripts given in that method for how to use the symlinks |
| 23:17 |
|
qiqo |
actually im using 2.2.6RC2 right now |
| 23:17 |
|
qiqo |
i had that problem with the cvs yesterday |
| 23:17 |
|
qiqo |
so i gave up |
| 23:19 |
|
thd |
qiqo: I had to make changes to where symlinks were placed for an earlier version of that method when applying it to 2.2.5 |
| 23:20 |
|
thd |
qiqo: the problem is that changes between versions confused where the base directory was located over time |
| 23:21 |
|
qiqo |
ahh alright' |
| 23:21 |
|
thd |
qiqo: pierrick updated the CVS update instructions and I assumed he fixed those problems |
| 23:22 |
|
thd |
qiqo: maybe something is different about 2.2.6 directories |
| 23:22 |
|
qiqo |
is the instruction found at kohadocs? |
| 23:23 |
|
thd |
qiqo: yes |
| 23:23 |
|
qiqo |
this is the one that i used yester day |
| 23:24 |
|
thd |
qiqo: but the last changes there were for 2.2.5 |
| 23:25 |
|
qiqo |
uhuh |
| 23:25 |
|
thd |
qiqo try installing 2.2.5 and applying the symlink instructions to a 2.2.5 installation |
| 23:26 |
|
thd |
qiqo: then update from CVS |
| 23:27 |
|
qiqo |
ok ill try |
| 23:27 |
|
qiqo |
ohh.. btw, the cvs does not include the tmpl files refered by labe-home.pl |
| 23:28 |
|
qiqo |
only 2.2.6RC2 has thos |
| 23:28 |
|
qiqo |
e |
| 23:29 |
|
thd |
qiqo: it should but I do have a problem for missing data |
| 23:29 |
|
thd |
qiqo: If you can see the form then at least you would have progress |
| 23:29 |
|
qiqo |
so will i just copy those tmpl files to the cvs working folfer |
| 23:30 |
|
qiqo |
22251220 |
| 23:33 |
|
thd |
qiqo: do you have Options +FollowSymLinks for <Directory "/usr/local/koha/intranet/cgi-bin"> in your koha-httpd.conf ? |
| 23:34 |
|
qiqo |
yup |
| 23:35 |
|
qiqo |
opac and intranet |
| 23:36 |
|
thd |
you would have to I suppose if Koha was working at all after adding symlinks |
| 23:38 |
|
qiqo |
ok |
| 23:39 |
|
qiqo |
cvs is real huge |
| 23:40 |
|
thd |
yes, with 4 versions being maintained |
| 23:42 |
|
qiqo |
so checked out 2_2 am i doing the right thing? |
| 23:43 |
|
qiqo |
finished installing 2.2.5 |
| 23:44 |
|
qiqo |
what time is it there? |
| 23:54 |
|
thd |
qiqo: it is 12.55 AM |
| 23:55 |
|
qiqo |
oohh |
| 23:55 |
|
qiqo |
US? |
| 23:56 |
|
thd |
yes |
| 00:01 |
|
qiqo |
its 12:55 PM here |
| 00:01 |
|
qiqo |
:) |
| 00:02 |
|
thd |
qiqo: If you apply the symlinks creation script, do you have a the correct path to label_home.pl? |
| 00:02 |
|
qiqo |
wait ill check,, i am still downloading the cvs |
| 00:06 |
|
thd |
qiqo: you should use the same database you had with 2.2.6 or a copy of that to avoid extra work |
| 00:06 |
|
qiqo |
i only have 2.2.5 database/// |
| 00:07 |
|
qiqo |
so i need to run the updatedatabase script right? |
| 00:07 |
|
thd |
qiqo: yes |
| 00:08 |
|
thd |
qiqo: did you have a 2.2.6 database previously? |
| 00:08 |
|
qiqo |
yup but i didnt manage to back it up |
| 00:09 |
|
thd |
qiqo: so you dropped it? |
| 00:11 |
|
qiqo |
yes |
| 00:11 |
|
qiqo |
i only have my 2.2.5 bakcup here |
| 00:12 |
|
qiqo |
done. with the symlinks, apache and db update |
| 00:12 |
|
thd |
qiqo: did you have 2.2.5 configured and populated with some data? |
| 00:13 |
|
qiqo |
yes i do have some data |
| 00:14 |
|
qiqo |
the barcode interface is there |
| 00:15 |
|
thd |
qiqo: so can you connect to label printing? |
| 00:15 |
|
qiqo |
yes |
| 00:15 |
|
thd |
well that is an improvement |
| 00:15 |
|
qiqo |
however. i still get error 500 when clicking the add item or create PDF |
| 00:16 |
|
qiqo |
Premature end of script headers: label-item-search.pl, referer: http://server:8080/cgi-bin/koh[…]ox=1&op=save_conf |
| 00:17 |
|
thd |
qiqo: what boxes did you check before adding an item? |
| 00:19 |
|
qiqo |
item call no,.. classification |
| 00:20 |
|
thd |
qiqo did you have values in those fields? |
| 00:20 |
|
qiqo |
yes |
| 00:21 |
|
qiqo |
however, it resulted to: Labels to be Printed, Printing will start on row 1, printing will use 0 sheets, currently 0 rows spare on sheet 0 |
| 00:22 |
|
thd |
did you try labels only |
| 00:22 |
|
qiqo |
yup |
| 00:24 |
|
thd |
qiqo try ISBN only |
| 00:24 |
|
qiqo |
Premature end of script headers: label-item-search.pl, referer: http://server:8080/cgi-bin/koh[…]/label-manager.pl |
| 00:24 |
|
qiqo |
ok |
| 00:26 |
|
qiqo |
i could see my items |
| 00:28 |
|
qiqo |
ok ill try to install Date::Calc apache is searching for that module |
| 00:30 |
|
thd |
qiqo: if you can see your items you have an advantage |
| 00:32 |
|
qiqo |
geez i really cant |
| 00:33 |
|
qiqo |
but i can now search for the catalogue |
| 00:33 |
|
qiqo |
hurrah |
| 00:34 |
|
thd |
qiqo: can get the results to appear? |
| 00:34 |
|
thd |
qiqo: can you get the results to appear? |
| 00:34 |
|
qiqo |
yes |
| 00:34 |
|
qiqo |
then i add the items |
| 00:35 |
|
qiqo |
however when i click preview,, i still get 500.. well ill consult the logs again |
| 00:35 |
|
thd |
qiqo: I think I need to add some holdings information to my items |
| 00:36 |
|
qiqo |
Premature end of script headers: label-print-pdf.pl, referer: http://server:8080/cgi-bin/koh[…]add&itemnumber=20 |
| 00:36 |
|
qiqo |
thd: qiqo: I think I need to add some holdings information to my items <-- what does this means? |
| 00:37 |
|
thd |
qiqo: I cannot even add items because I think I do not have any holdings fields in many of my test records |
| 00:39 |
|
qiqo |
my database consists of 114 biblio records |
| 00:40 |
|
qiqo |
and here are my results when i add those i searched: Label Number Summary Item Type Delete 1 Asian Development Bank annual report 1999 : : : 53 Delete 2 Gender indicators of developing asian and pacific countries /: : |
| 00:41 |
|
qiqo |
oops |
| 00:43 |
|
qiqo |
ill try to install required perl modules in the header of label-print.pl |
| 00:46 |
|
thd |
qiqo: now I have a 500 error for preview |
| 00:47 |
|
qiqo |
uhuh,,, |
| 00:47 |
|
qiqo |
ok,, have you installed GD::Barcode |
| 00:48 |
|
thd |
not yet, I just read the error |
| 00:49 |
|
qiqo |
ok |
| 00:56 |
|
qiqo |
im loosing hope... |
| 00:58 |
|
thd |
qiqo: well you are much closer |
| 00:59 |
|
mason |
qiqo: i can give you a hand to set it up |
| 00:59 |
|
qiqo |
ok.. |
| 00:59 |
|
mason |
but, i am flying to australa tomorrow :( |
| 00:59 |
|
qiqo |
so.. i saw the database,, and the items are at the labels table |
| 01:00 |
|
mason |
so it may have to be on monday |
| 01:00 |
|
qiqo |
ok... |
| 01:00 |
|
mason |
for the spine labels |
| 01:01 |
|
mason |
do you have the 2 labels tables in your koha DB? |
| 01:01 |
|
qiqo |
yup |
| 01:01 |
|
mason |
cool |
| 01:02 |
|
mason |
qiqo: the other thing is... |
| 01:02 |
|
mason |
at the moment the spine labels have only been written for 2 types of paper |
| 01:03 |
|
qiqo |
what type of paper? |
| 01:03 |
|
mason |
just googling... |
| 01:03 |
|
mason |
gaylord 8511 |
| 01:05 |
|
mason |
http://www.gaylordmart.com/adb[…]r&search_for=8511 |
| 01:05 |
|
mason |
and... |
| 01:06 |
|
qiqo |
but i should not have any problem since i will print these to sticker paper |
| 01:06 |
|
qiqo |
then i will manually cut |
| 01:06 |
|
mason |
oh, ok |
| 01:06 |
|
qiqo |
i only need to generate the spine labels |
| 01:06 |
|
mason |
ahhh, not the barcodes. |
| 01:07 |
|
qiqo |
nope |
| 01:07 |
|
qiqo |
labels only |
| 01:07 |
|
qiqo |
i fixed the barcode issue |
| 01:07 |
|
mason |
ok, thats good |
| 01:07 |
|
qiqo |
hdl,, what shall i do next. i consulted the logs, but they dont give me anything |
| 01:09 |
|
mason |
you are getting no error in your /usr/local/koha/log/koha-error_log ? |
| 01:09 |
|
qiqo |
yup |
| 01:10 |
|
qiqo |
but i get an error 500 when i preview my labels |
| 01:10 |
|
mason |
ah, ok |
| 01:10 |
|
chris |
apache 2 or 1.3? |
| 01:10 |
|
mason |
could be the sneaky 'barcode' directory |
| 01:11 |
|
qiqo |
2 |
| 01:11 |
|
chris |
if its 2 check /var/log/apache2/error.log (or whatever its called) |
| 01:11 |
|
qiqo |
already checked that |
| 01:11 |
|
chris |
yeah might be that dir eh mason |
| 01:11 |
|
qiqo |
its blank |
| 01:12 |
|
qiqo |
what about that dir? |
| 01:12 |
|
mason |
qiqo, the script that makes the pdf file is called 'label-print-pdf.pl' |
| 01:12 |
|
qiqo |
yup |
| 01:13 |
|
mason |
'label-print-pdf.pl' writes to a dir called '/usr/local/koha/intranet/htdocs/intranet-tmpl/barcodes' |
| 01:13 |
|
mason |
you might need to make that dir |
| 01:15 |
|
qiqo |
then? |
| 01:16 |
|
mason |
check the permissions onthe dir |
| 01:16 |
|
mason |
check the permissions on the dir |
| 01:16 |
|
qiqo |
www-data |
| 01:17 |
|
mason |
let me check... |
| 01:19 |
|
mason |
yes |
| 01:19 |
|
mason |
drwxr-xr-x 2 www-data www-data 72 Aug 31 18:18 ./barcodes/ |
| 01:19 |
|
qiqo |
http://203.87.241.3:8080/cgi-bin/koha/mainpage.pl |
| 01:19 |
|
mason |
do you want me to log in? |
| 01:20 |
|
qiqo |
yup |
| 01:20 |
|
qiqo |
kohaadmin 112485 |
| 01:20 |
|
mason |
ah thanks ;) |
| 01:22 |
|
mason |
http://203.87.241.3:8080/cgi-b[…]des/label-home.pl |
| 01:22 |
|
qiqo |
yup |
| 01:23 |
|
mason |
ok, give me a moment... |
| 01:25 |
|
mason |
u can test the 'label-print-pdf.pl' script from your linux shell too |
| 01:25 |
|
mason |
cd /usr/local/hlt/intranet/cgi-bin/barcodes |
| 01:25 |
|
mason |
. |
| 01:25 |
|
mason |
oops |
| 01:26 |
|
mason |
cd /usr/local/koha/intranet/cgi-bin/barcodes |
| 01:26 |
|
mason |
sudo perl ./label-print-pdf.pl |
| 01:27 |
|
qiqo |
ok |
| 01:28 |
|
qiqo |
Can't locate C4/Auth.pm |
| 01:28 |
|
mason |
oops |
| 01:30 |
|
chris |
sudo perl -I /usr/local/koha/intranet/modules label-print-pdf.pl |
| 01:31 |
|
mason |
yep |
| 01:31 |
|
qiqo |
PDF/Reuse.pm |
| 01:31 |
|
mason |
but then this :( |
| 01:31 |
|
mason |
DBI connect(':','',...) failed: Access denied for user: 'root localhost' (Using password: NO) at /usr/local/hlt/intranet/modules/C4/Context.pm line 411 |
| 01:31 |
|
mason |
Can't call method "prepare" on an undefined value at /usr/local/hlt/intranet/modules/C4/Labels.pm line 59. |
| 01:31 |
|
chris |
running as sudo? |
| 01:31 |
|
mason |
yep, |
| 01:32 |
|
mason |
and ive ' export KOHA_CONF=/etc/koha-hlt.conf' |
| 01:32 |
|
chris |
right that wont work |
| 01:32 |
|
chris |
for you mason |
| 01:32 |
|
chris |
do sudo bash |
| 01:32 |
|
chris |
then export ... |
| 01:32 |
|
chris |
then perl -I |
| 01:32 |
|
chris |
so qiqo, you are missing PDF::Reuse.pm ? |
| 01:32 |
|
qiqo |
i think so |
| 01:33 |
|
qiqo |
im currently install thru MCPAN |
| 01:33 |
|
chris |
id take a look at all the modules in label-print-pdf.pl at the top |
| 01:33 |
|
chris |
and make sure you have them all |
| 01:33 |
|
mason |
cool , thats where i got it from too :) |
| 01:33 |
|
qiqo |
alright |
| 01:33 |
|
chris |
(ignoring the C4:: ones |
| 01:33 |
|
chris |
) |
| 01:34 |
|
mason |
chris: what does sudo bash do? |
| 01:34 |
|
mason |
ah, click |
| 01:35 |
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chris |
remember to ctrl-d when u finish mason |
| 01:35 |
|
mason |
when sudo runs as root, it doesnt get my export vars? |
| 01:35 |
|
mason |
ctrl-d or 'exit' |
| 01:35 |
|
mason |
? |
| 01:35 |
|
chris |
yes |
| 01:35 |
|
mason |
ta |
| 01:35 |
|
chris |
cos u exported it as mason |
| 01:35 |
|
chris |
then with sudo ran as root |
| 01:36 |
|
chris |
so it cant see it |
| 01:36 |
|
chris |
make sense? |
| 01:36 |
|
mason |
ye |
| 01:36 |
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mason |
s |
| 01:38 |
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qiqo |
alright mine is running |
| 01:38 |
|
chris |
yay |
| 01:38 |
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qiqo |
i just have to adjust my database |
| 01:38 |
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mason |
http://203.87.241.3:8080/cgi-b[…]abel-print-pdf.pl |
| 01:38 |
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qiqo |
because i couldnt print anything |
| 01:38 |
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mason |
so it is :) |
| 01:38 |
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chris |
those modules should get tested by the installer .. so we'll have to fix |
| 01:38 |
|
chris |
that |
| 01:38 |
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qiqo |
i mean, the pdf is blank |
| 01:40 |
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mason |
better, http://203.87.241.3:8080/intra[…]/barcodes/new.pdf |
| 01:43 |
|
mason |
good work qiqo :) |
| 01:44 |
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mason |
ok, ive got to head off for a bit |
| 01:49 |
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qiqo |
ei gtg folk |
| 01:49 |
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qiqo |
mason: chris hdl i really appreciate your help |
| 01:49 |
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qiqo |
god bless us all and koha |
| 02:03 |
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mason |
amen |
| 03:43 |
|
btoumi |
toins: are u around |
| 03:43 |
|
btoumi |
? |
| 03:43 |
|
toins |
btoumi: i'm here |
| 03:55 |
|
toins |
Broadcast Message to french : there is #koha-fr channel on this server... ;-) |
| 03:58 |
|
paul |
join /#koha-fr |
| 07:05 |
|
hdl |
paul |
| 07:06 |
|
kados |
shaekspeare spoke french? :-) |
| 07:06 |
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kados |
hi all |
| 07:06 |
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kados |
paul: why can't you just speak french in #koha? |
| 07:08 |
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hdl |
He may have.... French was quite widespread in Europe at that time. But I wonder if he was upper-class enough to learn it. |
| 07:09 |
|
hdl |
hi kados |
| 07:09 |
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kados |
hi hdl |
| 07:09 |
|
kados |
how goes it? |
| 07:09 |
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hdl |
busy. |
| 07:57 |
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paul |
hello kados. |
| 07:58 |
|
paul |
could you explain a little bit more what are googleMapsKoha & GoogleSpellCheckKoha ??? |
| 07:59 |
|
paul |
kados : koha-fr channel is interesting because some ppl (like SAN) prefer to speak french & speak english with pains. |
| 07:59 |
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paul |
and, as they don't want to speak french on this channel when there is a lot of english speaking ppl, they speak on a private channel, which is the worst solution I think |
| 07:59 |
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paul |
thus, a public, french channel. |
| 08:00 |
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paul |
(but I agree I could have spoken of it before creating it, shame on me) |
| 08:17 |
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kados |
paul: they are two projects that Ohio Students may work on this year |
| 08:17 |
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kados |
paul: I am writing descriptions for them right now as the classes start next week |
| 08:17 |
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paul |
ok, fine. |
| 08:18 |
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paul |
I install 2.2.6RC2 to IPT in 2 hours. and if in 2-3 days everything is fine, I release official 2.2.6 |
| 08:18 |
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kados |
hmmm ... even with outstanding bugs? |
| 08:18 |
|
kados |
RC2 has many bugs IIRC |
| 08:19 |
|
paul |
(I hope with a last minute hack from hdl : when clicking on + to duplicate a field, a number of duplicate to do will popup) |
| 08:19 |
|
paul |
RC3 i mean. Most bugs are fixed or am I wrong somewhere ? |
| 08:20 |
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kados |
several blockers still |
| 08:20 |
|
kados |
some may be obsolete |
| 08:20 |
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kados |
1128 is not fixed I think |
| 08:21 |
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kados |
1159 needs to be investigated |
| 08:21 |
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kados |
1146 too |
| 08:22 |
|
kados |
(I will 1146) |
| 08:23 |
|
kados |
984 should probably be fixed before release also as it can cause some very frustrating problems |
| 08:25 |
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kados |
1118, 1117 need to be fixed too |
| 08:25 |
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kados |
or else hidden in the template |
| 08:25 |
|
kados |
before the release |
| 08:25 |
|
kados |
IMO |
| 08:26 |
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paul |
i'll take care of what I can, but I think libraries waited too much for this release. |
| 08:26 |
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kados |
1140 needs to be tested as well |
| 08:26 |
|
paul |
and with we can't solve all of them, then, release 2.2.6 and 2.2.7 2 weeks after if needed. |
| 08:27 |
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kados |
ok, as long as they are acknowledged in the release notes I'm OK with it |
| 08:27 |
|
kados |
ie, a list of known bugs should be listed in release notes IMO |
| 08:27 |
|
paul |
ok, and what about changing the count of libraries using Koha as I suggested in koha-devel ? |
| 08:28 |
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kados |
sounds good |
| 08:30 |
|
kados |
http://www.ithaka.org/strategic-services/oss |
| 08:30 |
|
kados |
OOSS (Organization for Open Source Software) Study |
| 08:56 |
|
thd |
I think the answer is too have the English people learn French |
| 08:56 |
|
paul |
lol |
| 08:57 |
|
thd |
paul: I often write to people in English and ask them to write me back in French if that is better for them |
| 09:00 |
|
thd |
kados: which language do you prefer for writing? |
| 09:00 |
|
paul |
kados : about 1128 (add authority) : it seems to work for default templates, but not for npl one. I let you & owen investigate |
| 09:01 |
|
thd |
paul: I often have trouble communicating with kados in any language |
| 09:01 |
|
paul |
lol |
| 09:02 |
|
thd |
I should try telepathy |
| 09:15 |
|
thd |
paul: Before you release, 2.2.6, I have a one line fix for MARC-8 conversion code in bulkmarcimport.pl from an undocumented behaviour of MARC::Charset. |
| 09:56 |
|
kados |
paul: do you have a rel_2_2 OPAC somewhere you can test something ? |
| 09:57 |
|
paul |
http://o5.bureau.paulpoulain.c[…]koha/opac-main.pl |
| 09:57 |
|
paul |
yes ;-) |
| 09:57 |
|
kados |
what is a good search term that has several thousand results? |
| 09:57 |
|
kados |
(more than 15 pages) |
| 09:58 |
|
paul |
main >> itemtype=livre |
| 09:58 |
|
paul |
9000 results |
| 09:59 |
|
kados |
hmmm ... I get no results |
| 09:59 |
|
paul |
you select "livre" in the itemtype list ? |
| 09:59 |
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kados |
advanced search ... ahh |
| 09:59 |
|
kados |
now click on page 15 |
| 09:59 |
|
paul |
sorry, yes, adv search |
| 09:59 |
|
paul |
done. |
| 10:00 |
|
paul |
and the 16 don't appear |
| 10:00 |
|
kados |
now click on next |
| 10:00 |
|
kados |
exactly |
| 10:00 |
|
kados |
shall I write a bug? |
| 10:00 |
|
paul |
you get the page, but stay with 1-15. |
| 10:00 |
|
paul |
yes, pls. |
| 10:00 |
|
kados |
yep |
| 10:00 |
|
kados |
ok, I"ll write it now |
| 10:00 |
|
paul |
(if you don't classify it as blo ;-) ) |
| 10:01 |
|
kados |
no not blo, but definitely critical |
| 10:01 |
|
kados |
as it makes Koha seem silly |
| 10:02 |
|
paul |
every library in France (i'm 100% sure) will classify it as "minor" |
| 10:02 |
|
kados |
and every library in US and NZ and Switzerland will classify it as blocker :-) |
| 10:02 |
|
kados |
I'm 100% sure :-) |
| 10:03 |
|
kados |
I have received two bug reports almost at the same time from two separate libraries |
| 10:03 |
|
paul |
but it appears only in a specific situation, that very rarely happends and does not block anything |
| 10:03 |
|
kados |
after announcing that 2.2.6 will be release soon |
| 10:03 |
|
kados |
(this morning) |
| 10:03 |
|
paul |
(+ I bet it's here since 3 years or so !) |
| 10:03 |
|
kados |
I don't think so ... but maybe |
| 10:05 |
|
paul |
maybe you could ask them how many times the problem can occur in real life. |
| 10:05 |
|
kados |
they don't care |
| 10:05 |
|
paul |
Honnestly, it's very very rare. |
| 10:05 |
|
paul |
but classifying a bug needs this information ! |
| 10:06 |
|
kados |
US libraries don't care how often a problem occurs, just that it's a problem and that the software they use represents their organization |
| 10:06 |
|
paul |
- a blo is something that prevents the user from using the software whatever he does. and there is a risk of loss of datas. |
| 10:06 |
|
kados |
so if someone sees that the software seems silly they think the organization is silly |
| 10:06 |
|
kados |
I notice that US companies place more importance on a web presense than French, so perhaps this is part of the difference |
| 10:07 |
|
kados |
to a US organization, a website is a core part of the organization |
| 10:07 |
|
kados |
and if something on the website seems silly, people perceive the organization to be silly |
| 10:08 |
|
kados |
I agree it's not a blocker |
| 10:08 |
|
kados |
but it is still critical (the fact that I received two separate bug reports in minutes about this proves it) |
| 11:10 |
|
paul |
hello owen |
| 11:10 |
|
owen |
Hi paul, how are you? |
| 11:11 |
|
paul |
fine, except that kados don't stop harassing me with koha bugs ;-) |
| 11:11 |
|
paul |
(not sure of the word harassing) |
| 11:11 |
|
owen |
Sounds accurate to me :) |
| 11:12 |
|
owen |
Tell him you like Koha better when it's broken ;) |
| 11:12 |
|
paul |
hey, kados, I prefer Koha when it's broken, because then I can sell more services to my customers to fix the problems. |
| 11:13 |
|
paul |
(do you think he will believe me ?) |
| 11:13 |
|
owen |
Now you're sounding like a /real/ businessman! |
| 11:13 |
|
paul |
lol |
| 11:14 |
|
kados |
hey owen |
| 11:14 |
|
owen |
hi kados, what's new? |
| 11:15 |
|
kados |
some things I'm sure ... |
| 11:15 |
|
kados |
I've been doing a lot of import procedure testing |
| 11:16 |
|
kados |
and work on making sure that items,biblioitems.marc, and zebra can easily stay in synch |
| 11:16 |
|
kados |
which as it turns out is very challanging |
| 11:34 |
|
paul |
owen & kados : i'm reviweing a lot bugs, & see many times kados saying "owen, can you check..." but the bug owner is still not owen. do you agree if I change the Assigned to to owen, when he has to answer a question ? |
| 11:34 |
|
kados |
ok with me |
| 11:34 |
|
owen |
Fine with me |
| 11:35 |
|
paul |
bye, i'll leave in 15mn |
| 11:35 |
|
kados |
bye paul ... thanks for attending to bugs |
| 11:36 |
|
paul |
thanks for reminding me so many of them were still waiting. |
| 11:36 |
|
paul |
i must admit i don't take enough attention to bugzilla |
| 11:36 |
|
paul |
(probably due to overwhelming # of bugs declared...) |
| 11:36 |
|
kados |
(I understand, it is overwhelming) |
